Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On Jun 27, 6:34 pm, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:33 PM, leighkimmel wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. I suggest you contact Tech Support at 901-759-1543 These guys know their stuff and have a lot of experience with the Beige G3s. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
I have ALMOST the same problem with a G4 17 Powerbook. During the course of a trip out of town, the sound quit working. I had flown (rather than drive) and my computer in its Targus bag was with me the whole time. I checked everything I knew to check, which showed that I DID have sound and everything should have been working. My destination happened to have an Apple store, so I took it in. They checked everything I had checked and came to the same conclusion. The fix would have been to leave it there for repair but I could not afford it. I did post this last December to the G4 group but there were no suggestions. Does anyone here have an idea? I wish I knew what I was doing to open it up but the most I've ever done is change out memory cards. Thanks, Claire --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
Where is this reset button? I remember having to push the reset button when I changed the PRAM battery on my G3 iMac (man, but getting inside that baby was a chore and a half)., but I have no idea where it would be. Also, where would this voltage regulator card be? At this point, I'm ready to try anything rather than have to trash a machine that's otherwise in good working order. On Jun 27, 8:13 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: On 6/27/09 7:34 PM, insightinmind of billycarm...@verizon.net sent (snip) Yes, to all of the above re: Bill's suggestion; also, there is a reset button on the beige G3 motherboard (iirc) that should be pushed. The most helpful thing to do is to reseat the personality card (i.e. The audio card), as I learned when our music lab was populated by these units. I can remember one time in particular that none of this worked for one of our still-under-warranty G3/233 desktops; the Apple technician on the phone had me yank and reseat the voltage regulator card, then zap the PRAM - that did the trick; that was the only (and most extreme HTH, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On Jun 27, 6:34 pm, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:33 PM, leighkimmel wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Is the PRAM battery in the right direction? I'm confident it is -- I was careful to note the direction of the battery when I did the swap, and it does hold settings when I unplug the machine. Did you also do cmd-opt-P-R ? Yep, that was another thing my brother suggested. Forgot to mention it (it's hard to remember to recite every single step you've already taken to avoid having people suggest it when you've already done it). All of this resets audio preferences I think ... but I only have experience with Mac Plus, a Performa, PM8500/9500, Yikes!, DA, QS 2002 ... nothing in between ... Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:40 AM, leighkimmel wrote: Where is this reset button? I remember having to push the reset button when I changed the PRAM battery on my G3 iMac (man, but getting inside that baby was a chore and a half)., but I have no idea where it would be. Also, where would this voltage regulator card be? At this point, I'm ready to try anything rather than have to trash a machine that's otherwise in good working order. macgurus.com has mobo layouts showing where things are. Here's links for the Beige G3 Desktop and Minitower: http://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/mbppcg3desk.php http://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/mbppcg3mini.php Hope this helps some. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
leighkimmel wrote: Where is this reset button? I remember having to push the reset button when I changed the PRAM battery on my G3 iMac (man, but getting inside that baby was a chore and a half)., but I have no idea where it would be. Also, where would this voltage regulator card be? At this point, I'm ready to try anything rather than have to trash a machine that's otherwise in good working order. On Jun 27, 8:13 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: Try this site for some of your needs. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50019 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:33 PM, leighkimmel wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Is the PRAM battery in the right direction? Did you also do cmd-opt-P-R ? All of this resets audio preferences I think ... but I only have experience with Mac Plus, a Performa, PM8500/9500, Yikes!, DA, QS 2002 ... nothing in between ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On 6/27/09 7:34 PM, insightinmind of billycarm...@verizon.net sent On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:33 PM, leighkimmel wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Is the PRAM battery in the right direction? Did you also do cmd-opt-P-R ? All of this resets audio preferences I think ... but I only have experience with Mac Plus, a Performa, PM8500/9500, Yikes!, DA, QS 2002 ... nothing in between ... Bill Connelly Yes, to all of the above re: Bill's suggestion; also, there is a reset button on the beige G3 motherboard (iirc) that should be pushed. The most helpful thing to do is to reseat the personality card (i.e. The audio card), as I learned when our music lab was populated by these units. I can remember one time in particular that none of this worked for one of our still-under-warranty G3/233 desktops; the Apple technician on the phone had me yank and reseat the voltage regulator card, then zap the PRAM - that did the trick; that was the only (and most extreme HTH, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
I have had a lot of Beige G3's and one did go mute. I solved the problem by just replacing the personality card. One thing that you might try is zapping the pram. Turn on the computer and hold down: Command + Options + P + R. Hold these keys until the computer restarts about 3 times. Usually you would measure when it restarts by when it chimes but in your case that won't work. You might try looking at the keyboard lights to tell you. -Jonas On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:33 AM, leighkimmel leighkim...@yahoo.com wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. On the recommendation of my brother, a computer engineer, I pulled the Personality Card and reseated it, but it still can't tell it's got the capacity to play sound. I even finally did the upgrade from 8.1 to 8.6 that I'd been intending to get around to forever, but it did not resolve the situation -- and it screwed up my Palm Desktop, so I may have to go back to 8.1 to get that back (I'm still using an old Palm VIIx until it finally gives up the ghost). Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
