Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger You cannot put an Intel processor in your G4, for a lot of reasons. Here are Apple's system requirements for Leopard, OS X 10.5: Mac OS X 10.5 requires: • A Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or Power PC G4 (867 MHz or faster) processor • 512 MB memory or more • A DVD drive for installation • 9 GB of available disk space or more • Some features require a compatible Internet service provider, fees may apply. • Some features require Apple's .Mac service; fees apply. Notes • Computers with processor upgrade cards are not supported with Mac OS X. Although Mac OS X may install and appear to work normally on some computers with third-party microprocessor upgrade cards, Apple does not provide technical support or assistance for Mac OS X when used in this way. Contact the manufacturer of your microprocessor upgrade card for support information. • Check out the Mac OS X Leopard Technical Specs website for additional details on Leopard requirements (http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/ ) • You should also read the Before You Install document included on your Mac OS X installation disc. If your Mac meets or exceeds all of the basic hardware requirements, you can install and run Leopard without changing a thing. On the other hand, since Snow Leopard will not support your G4's PPC processor, you will not be able to upgrade to 10.6 in September. Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM, wrote: > > > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger > > __ Check the archive of the past year. This was a hot issue when Leopard came out.. I believe you find several listers willing to help with your case. You might also join the unsupported X list. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger Which G4? There are basically two: 1) the 100 MHz bus G4 (Gigabit Ethernet, and earlier models), and 2) the 133 MHz bus G4 (Digital Audio, and later models). (I have NO "mirror drive door" G4s, so I cannot voice an opinion on those). The best upgrade is probably the Giga-Designs. However, those are hard to come by, OWC has an upgrade which is basically a Giga-Designs processor, but is comes with OWC's warranty, and it DOES NOT support over-clocking. The true Giga-Designs processor, purchased from them, DOES support over-clocking. The Giga-Designs upgrade is nice in that it can be set by jumpers for either a 100 MHz bus or a 133 MHz bus, and it accepts both the 100 MHz processor position or the 133 MHz processor position (each are quite different), and the cooling system is designed for both, and is user-adjustable for both. Whichever ... The only chips being made these days are 1.4 GHz G4s, and any processor upgrades, whether from Giga-Designs, or OWC, or others, are simply 1.4 GHz chips which are being over-clocked, but are guaranteed by the seller to work at 1.5 or 1.6 or 1. GHz. Caveat emptor! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > > > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger No. Leopard WILL run just fine on any Mac G4 that was originally 867 Mhz or better; and there are ways of getting it to run on older systems. Jim has posted the full requirements but those are all pretty much covered by 'was 867 MHz or faster to start with.' With CPU, memory and video upgrades older systems will work as well, but the money spent on that would be far better put to use paying for a newer Mac. I run 10.5 on my 1GHZ TiBook just fine, and it also runs well on my upgraded Gigabit Ethernet, which has an upgraded processor (1Ghz) and video card (ATI Radeon 9000). That machine was upgraded a long time ago, it's really not worth upgrading that system today to those specs. Sufficient memory is crucial: 768M or better is recommended, 512M or better is absolutely needed. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
Hi Matt... On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just Sorry... I can't imagine any way that could work. Best bet to get the Big Cat working would be a processor upgrade. The minimum requirement is 867 MHz (IIRC). There is a firmware hack to install Leopard on slower CPU's. I have it running on a Digital Audio 733 and it's okay... not great, but okay. Which G4 do you have? That would help making suggestions. Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
Thanks, the G4 runs just fine without it ... Well better than fine, considering it's 7 years old! LOL . Tiger is just fine with me. Although as soon as I can get the cash for the mac mini, I will get it simply because I want to run dual boot for diabblo III. LOL On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Jim Scott wrote: > > > On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > >> And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just >> wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger > > You cannot put an Intel processor in your G4, for a lot of reasons. > Here are Apple's system requirements for Leopard, OS X 10.5: > > Mac OS X 10.5 requires: >• A Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or Power PC G4 (867 M > Hz > or faster) processor >• 512 MB memory or more >• A DVD drive for installation >• 9 GB of available disk space or more >• Some features require a compatible Internet service provider, f > ees > may apply. >• Some features require Apple's .Mac service; fees apply. > Notes >• Computers with processor upgrade cards are not supported with M > ac > OS X. Although Mac OS X may install and appear to work normally on > some computers with third-party microprocessor upgrade cards, Apple > does not provide technical support or assistance for Mac OS X when > used in this way. Contact the manufacturer of your microprocessor > upgrade card for support information. >• Check out the Mac OS X Leopard Technical Specs website for > additional details on Leopard requirements > (http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/ > ) >• You should also read the Before You Install document included > on > your Mac OS X installation disc. > > If your Mac meets or exceeds all of the basic hardware requirements, > you can install and run Leopard without changing a thing. On the other > hand, since Snow Leopard will not support your G4's PPC processor, you > will not be able to upgrade to 10.6 in September. > > Jim > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
Can you Sind the link for the x list? On Jun 15, 2009, at 7:12 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM, wrote: >> >> >> And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just >> wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger >> >> > __ > > Check the archive of the past year. This was a hot issue when > Leopard came out.. > > I believe you find several listers willing to help with your case. > > You might also join the unsupported X list. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
I have the basic with DVD rom, I just realized that I need to study up wy more on MAC they are so neat, organized and smooth, my friend has the new iMac and I love it, soon after toting with his a little my aunt was moving out of her house,and GAVE ME her g4 witch was still in the box! She said that she played with it once and dident like it , and she never got around to returning it, so it's practally brand new! And it runs as if so! I love my pmg4! On Jun 15, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: > > Hi Matt... > > On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > >> And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > > Sorry... I can't imagine any way that could work. Best bet to get the > Big Cat working would be a processor upgrade. The minimum requirement > is 867 MHz (IIRC). There is a firmware hack to install Leopard on > slower CPU's. I have it running on a Digital Audio 733 and it's > okay... not great, but okay. > > Which G4 do you have? That would help making suggestions. > > Amanda > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger > > > > > > You can run Leopard on your g4 if it has an 8xxmhz processor and a stick of 512 of ram. I would recommend a good video card also. In my experience I am running tiger with a 1.2ghz processor and 2gigs of ram but I have a crap video card. If i upgrade that I know my g4 would run GREAT. macs run poorly with crappy video cards in my experience. This is just my opinion as I am not trained or anything. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger > > > > > > You can run Leopard on your g4 if it has an 8xxmhz processor and a stick of 512 of ram. You will not have a happy experience with less than 1GB RAM, and the more the better. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G3-5 List" group. To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
Since no one seems to have answered the original question, no, you cannot put a Core Duo processor into a G4, it simply won't fit. With a hammer and a chisel, it may go in, but it probably won't work. As others have stated, RAM and video card are two of the best upgrades you can do to a Mac, in that order. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
On Jun 15, 4:55 pm, Jim Scott wrote: > On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > > > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger > > You cannot put an Intel processor in your G4, for a lot of reasons. > Here are Apple's system requirements for Leopard, OS X 10.5: > I could'nt interchange the CPU, but I can replace the LoBo, CPU, RAM,and Powersupply together. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
On Jun 16, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Mullin9 wrote: > > I could'nt interchange the CPU, but I can replace the LoBo, CPU, > RAM,and Powersupply together. Well, yes, I suppose you could transplant an entirely new computer into the case, but that really falls into the category of case modding, rather than upgrades :-) -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:18 AM, John Hanson wrote: > Since no one seems to have answered the original question, no, you cannot > put a Core Duo processor into a G4, it simply won't fit. With a hammer and a > chisel, it may go in, but it probably won't work. Yup, with careful trimming of excess pins the processor will go right in. :) -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Mullin9 wrote: > > > > On Jun 15, 4:55 pm, Jim Scott wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > > > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger > > > > You cannot put an Intel processor in your G4, for a lot of reasons. > > Here are Apple's system requirements for Leopard, OS X 10.5: > > > > I could'nt interchange the CPU, but I can replace the LoBo, CPU, > RAM,and Powersupply together. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > That would place it in the category of Franken Mac. especially since I take your drift to mean an entirely PC system in a Mac case. I do not believe Apple would consider that in keeping with the EULA. But then good try. Send pics. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
