Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
never mind. i am no longer posting buying/selling posts. omg i forgot
that rule sorry guys.

o_0

On 4/9/10, Mark Sokolovsky  wrote:
> Wait, how about this. I have a SCSI controller card Ultra66. It is
> completely compatible with macs, and it goes into the PCI slot. It
> basically had 2 EIDE plugs on it, and it breaks that 128GB limit. I
> have used it before, i flashed it after i pulled it out of a Windows
> NT 4 server. It works nicely.I can let it go for $40 US.
>
> On 4/9/10, Sri Gupta  wrote:
>> Note that the QS won't support a G4 pulled from a MDD system, you need
>> to look for a G4 pulled specifically from a QS or earlier (or an
>> upgrade card, but for the most part I find them overpriced; you can
>> buy a 1.6ghz G4 upgrade card for $199, or a dual G4 1.25 ghz MDD off
>> ebay for $209...)
>>
>> Check the lemswap group, that's been my best source for cheap
>> upgrades.
>>
>> -sri
>>
>> On Apr 8, 10:02 pm, "Keith Proctor"  wrote:
>>> You correct Clark. It is an early Quicksilver and not a DA. I tried a
>>> 250
>>> gig HD but it only saw 128 gig of it. Hated to waste all that drive
>>> space
>>> so
>>> I just used a smaller drive on hand. I will look for a dual processor
>>> now
>>> and beef this machine up a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Clark Martin" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: G4 Quicksilver question
>>>
>>> > On 4/8/10 10:28 AM, Keith Proctor wrote:
>>> >> I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to
>>> >> replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9.
>>> >> This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my
>>> >> ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I
>>> >> worked
>>> >> with in this state.
>>> >> Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM.
>>> >> Very
>>> >> stable and surprisingly fast for its age.
>>> >> Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise?
>>> >> I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS software
>>> >> on
>>> >> it.
>>> >> As it sits now it is configured with:
>>> >> 800mhz processor
>>> >> 1.5 gig Ram
>>> >> 40 gig HD
>>> >> DVD Read/Write
>>> >> This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio
>>> >> connections near the top section of the back panel.
>>> >> Any advice welcome!
>>> >> Keith
>>>
>>> > QuickSilver and Digital Audio are two distinct models of Power Mac G4.
>>> > QuickSilver have a light gray (silver) front panel.  The DA has a dark
>>> > front panel, same as the Yikes, Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet.
>>>
>>> > If it is a QuickSilver you can upgrade the processor to a dual, at
>>> > least
>>> > 1GHz.  The memory maxed out already.  A video card upgrade is a
>>> > possiblity.  If this is a QS 2002 then you could put in a PATA
>>> > harddrive
>>> > as big as you can.  The earlier QS was limited to 128Gb.
>>
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Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Wait, how about this. I have a SCSI controller card Ultra66. It is
completely compatible with macs, and it goes into the PCI slot. It
basically had 2 EIDE plugs on it, and it breaks that 128GB limit. I
have used it before, i flashed it after i pulled it out of a Windows
NT 4 server. It works nicely.I can let it go for $40 US.

On 4/9/10, Sri Gupta  wrote:
> Note that the QS won't support a G4 pulled from a MDD system, you need
> to look for a G4 pulled specifically from a QS or earlier (or an
> upgrade card, but for the most part I find them overpriced; you can
> buy a 1.6ghz G4 upgrade card for $199, or a dual G4 1.25 ghz MDD off
> ebay for $209...)
>
> Check the lemswap group, that's been my best source for cheap
> upgrades.
>
> -sri
>
> On Apr 8, 10:02 pm, "Keith Proctor"  wrote:
>> You correct Clark. It is an early Quicksilver and not a DA. I tried a 250
>> gig HD but it only saw 128 gig of it. Hated to waste all that drive space
>> so
>> I just used a smaller drive on hand. I will look for a dual processor now
>> and beef this machine up a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "Clark Martin" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: G4 Quicksilver question
>>
>> > On 4/8/10 10:28 AM, Keith Proctor wrote:
>> >> I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to
>> >> replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9.
>> >> This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my
>> >> ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I
>> >> worked
>> >> with in this state.
>> >> Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM.
>> >> Very
>> >> stable and surprisingly fast for its age.
>> >> Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise?
>> >> I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS software
>> >> on
>> >> it.
>> >> As it sits now it is configured with:
>> >> 800mhz processor
>> >> 1.5 gig Ram
>> >> 40 gig HD
>> >> DVD Read/Write
>> >> This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio
>> >> connections near the top section of the back panel.
>> >> Any advice welcome!
>> >> Keith
>>
>> > QuickSilver and Digital Audio are two distinct models of Power Mac G4.
>> > QuickSilver have a light gray (silver) front panel.  The DA has a dark
>> > front panel, same as the Yikes, Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet.
>>
>> > If it is a QuickSilver you can upgrade the processor to a dual, at least
>> > 1GHz.  The memory maxed out already.  A video card upgrade is a
>> > possiblity.  If this is a QS 2002 then you could put in a PATA harddrive
>> > as big as you can.  The earlier QS was limited to 128Gb.
>
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Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-09 Thread Sri Gupta
Note that the QS won't support a G4 pulled from a MDD system, you need
to look for a G4 pulled specifically from a QS or earlier (or an
upgrade card, but for the most part I find them overpriced; you can
buy a 1.6ghz G4 upgrade card for $199, or a dual G4 1.25 ghz MDD off
ebay for $209...)

Check the lemswap group, that's been my best source for cheap
upgrades.

-sri

On Apr 8, 10:02 pm, "Keith Proctor"  wrote:
> You correct Clark. It is an early Quicksilver and not a DA. I tried a 250
> gig HD but it only saw 128 gig of it. Hated to waste all that drive space so
> I just used a smaller drive on hand. I will look for a dual processor now
> and beef this machine up a bit.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clark Martin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: G4 Quicksilver question
>
> > On 4/8/10 10:28 AM, Keith Proctor wrote:
> >> I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to
> >> replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9.
> >> This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my
> >> ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I worked
> >> with in this state.
> >> Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM. Very
> >> stable and surprisingly fast for its age.
> >> Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise?
> >> I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS software on
> >> it.
> >> As it sits now it is configured with:
> >> 800mhz processor
> >> 1.5 gig Ram
> >> 40 gig HD
> >> DVD Read/Write
> >> This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio
> >> connections near the top section of the back panel.
> >> Any advice welcome!
> >> Keith
>
> > QuickSilver and Digital Audio are two distinct models of Power Mac G4.
> > QuickSilver have a light gray (silver) front panel.  The DA has a dark
> > front panel, same as the Yikes, Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet.
>
> > If it is a QuickSilver you can upgrade the processor to a dual, at least
> > 1GHz.  The memory maxed out already.  A video card upgrade is a
> > possiblity.  If this is a QS 2002 then you could put in a PATA harddrive
> > as big as you can.  The earlier QS was limited to 128Gb.

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Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Apr 8, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:


You know what? you could've partitined it! It could only read 128GB of
partition space at a time, so why don't you put that 250GBHDD back  
in there,

and put in (2) 125GB partitions.


Because that WONT WORK. You either need to use a hack like the  
firmware hack (discussed in these formums numerous times) or a third  
party tool like OWC sells.


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Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-09 Thread John Carmonne

On Apr 8, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

> You know what? you could've partitined it! It could only read 128GB of 
> partition space at a time, so why don't you put that 250GBHDD back in there, 
> and put in (2) 125GB partitions. Also, if you want to "beef it up", use 
> LeopardAssist to put leopard on it. Leopard requires a G4 processor @ 867Mhz 
> or faster, but 800Mhz is pretty close anyways.
> 
It won't see any more than 128 GBs without a hack.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP






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Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-08 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
 You know what? you could've partitined it! It could only read 128GB of
partition space at a time, so why don't you put that 250GBHDD back in there,
and put in (2) 125GB partitions. Also, if you want to "beef it up", use
LeopardAssist to put leopard on it. Leopard requires a G4 processor @ 867Mhz
or faster, but 800Mhz is pretty close anyways.

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Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-08 Thread Keith Proctor
You correct Clark. It is an early Quicksilver and not a DA. I tried a 250 
gig HD but it only saw 128 gig of it. Hated to waste all that drive space so 
I just used a smaller drive on hand. I will look for a dual processor now 
and beef this machine up a bit.



- Original Message - 
From: "Clark Martin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: G4 Quicksilver question



On 4/8/10 10:28 AM, Keith Proctor wrote:

I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to
replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9.
This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my
ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I worked
with in this state.
Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM. Very
stable and surprisingly fast for its age.
Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise?
I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS software on
it.
As it sits now it is configured with:
800mhz processor
1.5 gig Ram
40 gig HD
DVD Read/Write
This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio
connections near the top section of the back panel.
Any advice welcome!
Keith



QuickSilver and Digital Audio are two distinct models of Power Mac G4. 
QuickSilver have a light gray (silver) front panel.  The DA has a dark 
front panel, same as the Yikes, Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet.


If it is a QuickSilver you can upgrade the processor to a dual, at least 
1GHz.  The memory maxed out already.  A video card upgrade is a 
possiblity.  If this is a QS 2002 then you could put in a PATA harddrive 
as big as you can.  The earlier QS was limited to 128Gb.


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Macintosh / Internet Consulting

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Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-08 Thread Frank J. R. Hanstick

Hello,
	I have upgraded my Quicksilver to a dual 1.73GHz PowerPC G4 from  
Newer Technologies and it works fine (Other World Computing is running  
a special on the CPU and it is advertised for the Digital Audio as  
well).  There is also a Radeon 9200 PCI graphics card connected to a  
15" Apple Studio Display and a AGP Radeon 9800Pro connected to a View  
Sonic VX1925wm-1 and a View Sonic VE-170b.  In addition, I have two  
internal 80 GB drives, two external Firewire 1TB drives (one as a boot  
drive) and a dual layer CD/DVD burner.


On Apr 8, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Clark Martin wrote:


On 4/8/10 10:28 AM, Keith Proctor wrote:

I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to
replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9.
This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my
ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I  
worked

with in this state.
Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM.  
Very

stable and surprisingly fast for its age.
Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise?
I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS  
software on

it.
As it sits now it is configured with:
800mhz processor
1.5 gig Ram
40 gig HD
DVD Read/Write
This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio
connections near the top section of the back panel.
Any advice welcome!
Keith



QuickSilver and Digital Audio are two distinct models of Power Mac  
G4. QuickSilver have a light gray (silver) front panel.  The DA has  
a dark front panel, same as the Yikes, Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet.


If it is a QuickSilver you can upgrade the processor to a dual, at  
least 1GHz.  The memory maxed out already.  A video card upgrade is  
a possiblity.  If this is a QS 2002 then you could put in a PATA  
harddrive as big as you can.  The earlier QS was limited to 128Gb.


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Re: G4 Quicksilver question

2010-04-08 Thread Clark Martin

On 4/8/10 10:28 AM, Keith Proctor wrote:

I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to
replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9.
This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my
ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I worked
with in this state.
Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM. Very
stable and surprisingly fast for its age.
Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise?
I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS software on
it.
As it sits now it is configured with:
800mhz processor
1.5 gig Ram
40 gig HD
DVD Read/Write
This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio
connections near the top section of the back panel.
Any advice welcome!
Keith



QuickSilver and Digital Audio are two distinct models of Power Mac G4. 
QuickSilver have a light gray (silver) front panel.  The DA has a dark 
front panel, same as the Yikes, Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet.


If it is a QuickSilver you can upgrade the processor to a dual, at least 
1GHz.  The memory maxed out already.  A video card upgrade is a 
possiblity.  If this is a QS 2002 then you could put in a PATA harddrive 
as big as you can.  The earlier QS was limited to 128Gb.


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