Re: Large Drives
On Oct 12, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Jeff Bequette wrote: > I am looking hard at the terabyte to replace the original 80. $129 ($0.13/MB) from one of the "usual suspects" with no rebate, or $109 ($0.11/MB) from another of the "usual suspects" after a mail-in rebate. On my five-year-old Macs, 500 GB drives are more-or-less standard. On my recent Intel Hacks, 1000 GB drives are standard. I generally buy when the price per megabyte is below the current "sweet spot". Today, I would buy if the price is $0.11, $0.12 or $0.13, but not higher. I tend to buy only SATA drives, and my G4 Macs are fitted with Mac- compatible iSATA/eSATA cards. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large Drives
Average user + family(2teenager with own Itunes & iphoto)= 80gb original 65gb used 160gb external 120 used 300gb internal about 200gb used I am looking hard at the terabyte to replace the original 80. Jeff Bequette [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 11, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 10:39 PM +0100 10/11/2008, Simon Royal wrote: >> >> What does the average user do with all that space? > > Data is like GAS. It expands to fill all available space! > >> Who actually uses 1000GB? Then you have the question of backing up. >> The larger the storage the larger the back up needed. > > Backup volumes, movies, music, photo & video editing, databases, > starcharts, Mach5 plans... > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large Drives
At 10:39 PM +0100 10/11/2008, Simon Royal wrote: > >What does the average user do with all that space? Data is like GAS. It expands to fill all available space! >Who actually uses 1000GB? Then you have the question of backing up. >The larger the storage the larger the back up needed. Backup volumes, movies, music, photo & video editing, databases, starcharts, Mach5 plans... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large Drives
> Hi. > > I've never been a subscriber to massive hard drives. > > What does the average user do with all that space? Who actually uses > 1000GB? Then you have the question of backing up. The larger the > storage the larger the back up needed. > > The largest drive I have had is 160GB which came in my Intel iMac. > At the moment I have 100GB of music stored on a 120GB hard drive, > which I bought merely to keep all my music in one place. I have a > 20GB boot drive for crying out loud. > > My PowerBook G3 Pismo came with a 40GB hard drive which I think is a > little bit of overkill as I have only used 10GB. > > It is not that I don't do heavy work. I am a graphic designer who > works in Quark, Photoshop and Illustrator. I use iMovie for video > editing and make a lot of backup disc images. > > I just think massive drives are bought for the 'ive got 500GB' wow > factor rather than if you actually need or use it. > > A PC friend of mine has a 500GB Western Digital external drive and > never goes over 200GB of it. What a waste of money. > > Simon I have a LaCie d2 Quadra hard drive. It's a 500GB drive. And, it's full. I use the drive as a Time Machine backup drive for my Aluminum iMac (which has a 320GB internal drive, 12GB free) and for some light Final Cut video editing. The reason that drive is actually so full right now is that I've just finished a fairly big editing project, and that ate up most of my space. It's about time to get that off there. Still, there is a use for a drive that big. I actually plan to buy one or two more in the future, and a nice little rack for their storage at some point in the future, cost permitting. For normal computing, though, I have to agree. 500GB is overkill. I have a 120GB HDD in my Pismo (because it was something like $3 more expensive than an 80GB HDD when I bought it) and it's still got 70GB free. That has raw footage from a football game imported. Before that, I had about 90GB available. I don't think that I even have 70GB available when you combine the amount of free disk space on the three hard drives I have hooked up to my iMac. Still, I do see your point. And I do think that there are some people out there who buy big expensive things just to have big expensive things. I know some of those people. But I'm not one of them. Isaac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large Drives
On Oct 11, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Diane wrote: > I just purchased 2 500gb drives for my G4 FW800 (one is a bootable > backup). It came with a 120gb. I've been at the 10gb free mark for > quite > some time, which is way too low for comfort. This is the quickest and easiest solution, for later model fast machines. I have 500 GB drives in my dual 1.0 GHz QS 2002, the very last PPC machine in daily use in my facility. My Intels (P35/ICH9 Hackintoshes) each have two 1 TB drives, one is primary and the other is backup. I have and use three eSATA drive cases, which can be used by either the PPC Macs or the Intel Hacks. I also have and use FW cases, which generally have 500 GB drives, and also can be used across all platforms. Using "safe formatting" guidelines published by Intech (the "High Cap" kext folks) my PPC Macs have 160 GB boot drives (the smallest drives then available from Fry's Electronics) partitioned as four HFS + partitions (10.3.9, 10.3.9 Server, 10.4.11 and 10.5.5) wholly within the first 131,072 MB (128 GB) and a 25 GB extra partition (which I have found to be quite useful for TOAST intermediate storage). The alternate drive, plugged as slave and housed in the Zip compartment, "shadows" the boot drive. My Intel Hacks use a single partition approach, both for the primary drive and the alternate drive. 1 TB in the P35/ICH9 Hacks and 0.5 TB in the G31/ICH7 Shuttles. To each his own. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large Drives
On Sat, October 11, 2008 5:50 pm, PeterH wrote: > > I backup to a drive which is identical in size to the drive being > backed up: 1 TB to 1 TB. > > Works for me ... possibly wouldn't work for others. > > The data contained on my drives is considerably more valuable than > the cost of the drive itself. Agreed. I paid $250 for the two 500gb drives, an SATA controller, extra cable and a 4 port PCI USB card. Depending on the file, I could lose that much in time to recreate something. Some things can't be replaced either. Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large Drives
On Sat, October 11, 2008 5:39 pm, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I've never been a subscriber to massive hard drives. > > What does the average user do with all that space? Who actually uses > 1000GB? Then you have the question of backing up. The larger the storage > the larger the back up needed. Hi Simon! My first "hard drive" was a HardCard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcard). It was 10 MEGS and I paid probably close to $800 for it with an employee discount (I am showing my age LOL) 3 or so years ago I had purchased an external 160gb to be used as a backup and emergency boot drive for my G4 FW800. Enter my 30gb iBook, which also needed to be backed up. I added a 320gb external so it could backup both machines. Then my digital pix took over about a year ago. Hubby got a digital SLR which didn't help! They moved over to the 160gb (and were also backed up onto the 320) I just purchased 2 500gb drives for my G4 FW800 (one is a bootable backup). It came with a 120gb. I've been at the 10gb free mark for quite some time, which is way too low for comfort. So, will I ever use all that space? I am not sure. But I also never thought I'd fill 10 megabytes either. I will say it took quite awhile to get close to the 120gb. I probably had 40-60 in my Yikes! over a few drives. But with operating systems and applications getting bigger all the time, I am guessing it will happen sooner rather than later. Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large Drives
On Oct 11, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > I've never been a subscriber to massive hard drives. > > What does the average user do with all that space? Who actually > uses 1000GB? Then you have the question of backing up. The larger > the storage the larger the back up needed. Try doing any professional CD or DVD authoring or duplication without having huge hard drives for "works in progress" storage. Backup strategies are very much an individual preference. Some three decades ago, it took three magnetic tapes (1600 bpi) to backup a disk volume (mainframe-speak for a hard drive). Some two decades ago, it took about the same number of tapes (but 6250 bpi) to backup a disk volume. Backups on such linear media is now darn near impossible, and more intelligent methods are now required. I backup to a drive which is identical in size to the drive being backed up: 1 TB to 1 TB. Works for me ... possibly wouldn't work for others. The data contained on my drives is considerably more valuable than the cost of the drive itself. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
