Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:10 AM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: > > > On Sep 14, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >> 'overclocking' is making a CPU go at faster than the CPU's rated >> speed. Putting in a CPU rated at a higher speed is, well, pretty much >> exactly what you just did on the B&W :-) >> >> The speed jumper settings on the Beige are different steps than on the >> B&W, so you will have to play with them a bit; you may not get 400 MHZ >> exactly out of it. Other World Computing used to have a good guide to >> setting the jumpers. >> > > Actually, on a beige, you can get exact 400mhz... it's a 6x > multiplier of the 66mhz bus. > > John Oh, that's great news. Thanks, folks! I shall give it a try soon... -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Gorka Martinez Mezo wrote: > >> I recently put a Sonnet G4 in my Blue&White. Works fine now I've >> sorted the firmware - Sonnet's tool for this didn't work, but one from >> someone else did. > > Liam, do you have the G4 enabler CD? I got a Sonnet G4 card for my beige G3 > but without the CD! > > Would you be interested in a deal?? I didn't get a CD either, actually. I downloaded the Sonnet tool but I couldn't get it to work. You have to use the programmers' switch to enable flashing mode or something and my machine did not want to cooperate. I am not at home so can't check on my B&W but I *think* I used the NewerTech firmware enabler from here: http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/processors.cfm (Look right at the bottom of the page). I'll check again when I get home & let you know! -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 9:26 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:10 PM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: > >> Actually, on a beige, you can get exact 400mhz... it's a 6x >> multiplier of the 66mhz bus. > > I have a 400 MHz G4 CPU for my Beige. It ran fine at 400 MHz, and I > was able to overclock it to 433 MHz with zero problems. I ran it at > 466 MHz for several months, but it would freeze about once a week, and > sometimes this would corrupt some data, so I eventually gave up on 466 > and settled for 433. You can go up to a 10x multiplier I think, but I > never saw any ZIFs fast enough to handle that multiplier. I always had success taking a B & W processor 1 step faster in a beige with no problems. ie, a 400 to 433. Once or twice, I was able to get stability at 2 steps (400 to 466) with lots of cooling. But I always had a lot of drives and could never get enough cooling to run that way for too long. Good ol' OWC, still has the beige jumper setting chart up. Here is is: http://eshop.macsales.com/Tech/Load_Page.cfm?page=beigejumpers.html Unless you really want to live on the edge, I would stick with the 66MHz bus and 33MHz pci settings. Some beiges (Rev A Motherboards, iirc) had a chip near the processor called, iirc, the grackle chip that was rated at 83MHz. Looking near the processor, it is a purplish colored chip and if the numbers end in -83 you could POSSIBLY overclock the main system bus to 83MHz. As far as I know, the highest multiplier was 8x, which gives 533MHz at 66MHz bus. OWC was always friendly to overclockers and my guess is that if there was a was to take a 533MHz rated chip to 566 or even 600, they would have shown it, with the usual disclaimers. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:10 PM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: > Actually, on a beige, you can get exact 400mhz... it's a 6x > multiplier of the 66mhz bus. I have a 400 MHz G4 CPU for my Beige. It ran fine at 400 MHz, and I was able to overclock it to 433 MHz with zero problems. I ran it at 466 MHz for several months, but it would freeze about once a week, and sometimes this would corrupt some data, so I eventually gave up on 466 and settled for 433. You can go up to a 10x multiplier I think, but I never saw any ZIFs fast enough to handle that multiplier. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > 'overclocking' is making a CPU go at faster than the CPU's rated > speed. Putting in a CPU rated at a higher speed is, well, pretty much > exactly what you just did on the B&W :-) > > The speed jumper settings on the Beige are different steps than on the > B&W, so you will have to play with them a bit; you may not get 400 MHZ > exactly out of it. Other World Computing used to have a good guide to > setting the jumpers. > Actually, on a beige, you can get exact 400mhz... it's a 6x multiplier of the 66mhz bus. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
Liam Proven writes, Yes. My old Beige Desktop started life with a 266 MHz processor, and my boyfriend put a 400 MHz chip in it. ~Yersinia. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
> I recently put a Sonnet G4 in my Blue&White. Works fine now I've > sorted the firmware - Sonnet's tool for this didn't work, but one from > someone else did. Liam, do you have the G4 enabler CD? I got a Sonnet G4 card for my beige G3 but without the CD! Would you be interested in a deal?? Gorka -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > > I recently put a Sonnet G4 in my Blue&White. Works fine now I've > sorted the firmware - Sonnet's tool for this didn't work, but one from > someone else did. > > This means my old G3/400MHz is now free. > > Can one upgrade a Beige to a 400MHz chip? > > I overclocked my old 300 to 333, but I've never tried going this > far... 'overclocking' is making a CPU go at faster than the CPU's rated speed. Putting in a CPU rated at a higher speed is, well, pretty much exactly what you just did on the B&W :-) The speed jumper settings on the Beige are different steps than on the B&W, so you will have to play with them a bit; you may not get 400 MHZ exactly out of it. Other World Computing used to have a good guide to setting the jumpers. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Upgrading a Beige
I recently put a Sonnet G4 in my Blue&White. Works fine now I've sorted the firmware - Sonnet's tool for this didn't work, but one from someone else did. This means my old G3/400MHz is now free. Can one upgrade a Beige to a 400MHz chip? I overclocked my old 300 to 333, but I've never tried going this far... -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
