Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Dan]

At 11:21 AM -0600 9/27/2009, nestamicky wrote:
>On 09-09-26 05:05 PM, Dan wrote:
>  > Note that Minefield now requires OS X 10.5 or better.
>
>Thanks, Dan. That was the problem. I'm not running Leopard. I wish I
>could find a version for Tiger. From what I've learnt, Minefield seems
>quite fast.

No such thing as an up-to-date Minefield that runs on Tiger.  It 
cannot exist.  Minefield now requires the newer compilers and SDK, 
that produce code for Leopard & SL only.

If you go back in time, on Furby's list, to 9/15, the Minefield build 
will run on Tiger.  But running such an old Minefield build kindof 
defeats the purpose.  Better to use the Namoroka builds.

>When I reinstalled Namoroka, it opened and closes, just as it did
>immediately after installing the update to it, I think, on Friday night.
>But with you suggestion on completely uninstaling FF, I may be able to
>get it up again.

You sure you have the right build?

Firefox, with no prefs, is a double-launch.  The first creates the 
default profile and its prefs then it relaunches itself.  Are you 
saying that the secondary launch never occured?  Do you have any sort 
of crash log from this?

Have you tried removing any/all inputmanagers and such before launching?

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[nestamicky]

On 09-09-26 05:05 PM, Dan wrote:
> Note that Minefield now requires OS X 10.5 or
> better.
>
Thanks, Dan. That was the problem. I'm not running Leopard. I wish I 
could find a version for Tiger. From what I've learnt, Minefield seems 
quite fast.

When I reinstalled Namoroka, it opened and closes, just as it did 
immediately after installing the update to it, I think, on Friday night. 
But with you suggestion on completely uninstaling FF, I may be able to 
get it up again. Though I'd prefer a Tiger version of Minefield. I've 
run it before on my Pismo, I just can't find it now. I know because I 
thought the name was interesting.

Regards!

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Dan]

At 8:47 AM -0600 9/26/2009, Nestamicky wrote:
>On 9/22/09 7:40 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
>>  That build page has very specific PPC builds listed, not a general
>>  PPC. A G3, 2 G4s (for 7400 and 7450 based chips), a G5 and an intel
>>  build. Since the main Firefox community does not currently build or
>>  develop for OS9, there are no 601, 603 or 604 builds.
>
>I think I will go back to the RPM builds if I can find Minefield for G4.

RPM's are only *release* builds.

On Furby's page, you will see there are 3.6 and 3.7 builds.  Version 
3.6 is Namoroka - the next thing to be released.  3.7 is Minefield, 
the developer trunk.  Note that Minefield now requires OS X 10.5 or 
better.

>The Furbism builds refuse to work for me. One version worked for a short
>while, and I updated it last night. But when restarted it crashed,
>repeatedly. I uninstalled it, reinstalled the older un updated version,
>and that one kept crashing as well. Is there a Minefield for G4?

"refuse to work" is a bit too generic to help diagnose the problem.

>How can I completely uninstall FF from my machine now? I fear some files are
>laid back that may corrupt future installs.

Drag the app to the trash.

Drag the Mozilla and Firefox folders from ~/Library to the trash.

eg:
~/Library/Application Support/Firefox
~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Nestamicky]

On 9/22/09 7:40 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
> That build page has very specific PPC builds listed, not a general
> PPC. A G3, 2 G4s (for 7400 and 7450 based chips), a G5 and an intel
> build. Since the main Firefox community does not currently build or
> develop for OS9, there are no 601, 603 or 604 builds.
I think I will go back to the RPM builds if I can find Minefield for G4. 
The Furbism builds refuse to work for me. One version worked for a short 
while, and I updated it last night. But when restarted it crashed, 
repeatedly. I uninstalled it, reinstalled the older un updated version, 
and that one kept crashing as well. Is there a Minefield for G4? How can 
I completely uninstall FF from my machine now? I fear some files are 
laid back that may corrupt future installs.

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Nestamicky]

On 9/22/09 7:40 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
> Here are the links for todays builds
> G3
>
> http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/G3/FXG3-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg
>
> G4 7400
>
> http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7400/FX7400-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg
>
> G4 7450
>
> http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7450/FX7450-3.7a1pre-2009.09.22.dmg
>
> HTH,
> Len
Thanks a lot for these. I really appreciate this.

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Len Gerstel]

On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Nestamicky wrote:

>
> On 9/21/09 8:05 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>>> still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...?
>> 
>>
> Thanks Kris, but I found it later and found out that it does not  
> support
> PPC. Or, did I find the wrong version? Does it support PPC?

That build page has very specific PPC builds listed, not a general  
PPC. A G3, 2 G4s (for 7400 and 7450 based chips), a G5 and an intel  
build. Since the main Firefox community does not currently build or  
develop for OS9, there are no 601, 603 or 604 builds.

Here are the links for todays builds
G3

http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/G3/FXG3-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg

G4 7400

http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7400/FX7400-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg

G4 7450

http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7450/FX7450-3.7a1pre-2009.09.22.dmg

HTH,
Len

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Nestamicky]

On 9/21/09 8:05 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>> still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...?
> 
>
Thanks Kris, but I found it later and found out that it does not support 
PPC. Or, did I find the wrong version? Does it support PPC?

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Kris Tilford]

On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Nesta Nesta wrote:

> still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...?




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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Nesta Nesta]

Dan, I went hunting but still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...?

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Dan  wrote:

>
> At 12:41 PM -0500 9/16/2009, Charles Lenington wrote:
> >Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today?
>
> I did it 9/15.  Ran the stock FF for a bit then switched to rpm's
> optimized build.  Then went back to Minefield.
>
> >I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and
> >moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons
> >didn't work either.
> >
> >So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and
> >shutdown,
> >wait a couple minutes
> >then restart.
> >
> >Change computer/user password.
> >reboot
> >replug cat 5.
>
> Very strange.  You have any odd plug-ins or inputmanagers?
>
> >Well even more stranger.   Firefox came up with a update notice for
> >3.5.3 (from 3.5.2 although I was already at 3.5.3). ran install
> >everything looks ok so far.  Must of been a build change - I didn't
> >notice the build number.
>
> Maybe a corrupted update.  Hate it when that happens.  Had it happen
> all too often; I really hate auto-updating apps.
>
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>
> >
>


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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Dan]

At 7:17 AM -0600 9/18/2009, Nestamicky wrote:
>On 9/17/09 8:44 PM, Dan wrote:
>>  Minefield is the main Mozilla development trunk, currently that which
>>  might become Firefox 3.7.
>
>Thanks Dan, is my response less frustrating now...with text size?

This reply is plain text. :)

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Nestamicky]

On 9/17/09 8:44 PM, Dan wrote:
> Minefield is the main Mozilla development trunk, currently that which
> might become Firefox 3.7.

Thanks Dan, is my response less frustrating now...with text size?

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Dan]

At 7:02 PM -0600 9/17/2009, Nestamicky wrote:

Please post plain text to these lists.

[html stripped]
>On 9/17/09 10:38 AM, Dan wrote:
>>Then went back to Minefield.
>
>Can I interest Dan to say why he's opted for Minefield and not on 
>the update bandwagon that's Mozilla.

Minefield is the main Mozilla development trunk, currently that which 
might become Firefox 3.7.

Mostly I use Safari (WebKit Nightly).  When I have a problem with a 
page, I switch to Firefox to compare.  I find the optimized nightly 
Minefield build to (usually) be faster and more reliable (page 
capability wise) than released Firefox 3.5.x.

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Nestamicky]

On 9/16/09 10:56 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:
> I was already at 3.5.3). ran install
> everything looks ok so far.  Must of been a build change - I didn't
> notice the build number.
>
You're right. The same thing happened to me. I'm sure within days here 
they'd fix both Firefox and T-bird with another update.

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Nestamicky]

On 9/17/09 10:38 AM, Dan wrote:
>   Then went back to Minefield.
>
Can I interest Dan to say why he's opted for Minefield and not on the 
update bandwagon that's Mozilla.

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Dan]

At 11:54 AM -0700 9/16/2009, Roger Kulp wrote:
>I updated Safari yesterday,and it lost all my saved logins.

Logins are either coming from keychain or cookies.

Check your keychain - Use run the first aid repair from Keychain Access.app.

Cookies... if they're corrupted, then clear 'em all and start over.


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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Dan]

At 12:41 PM -0500 9/16/2009, Charles Lenington wrote:
>Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today?

I did it 9/15.  Ran the stock FF for a bit then switched to rpm's 
optimized build.  Then went back to Minefield.

>I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and
>moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons
>didn't work either.
>
>So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and
>shutdown,
>wait a couple minutes
>then restart.
>
>Change computer/user password.
>reboot
>replug cat 5.

Very strange.  You have any odd plug-ins or inputmanagers?

>Well even more stranger.   Firefox came up with a update notice for
>3.5.3 (from 3.5.2 although I was already at 3.5.3). ran install
>everything looks ok so far.  Must of been a build change - I didn't
>notice the build number.

Maybe a corrupted update.  Hate it when that happens.  Had it happen 
all too often; I really hate auto-updating apps.

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Charles Lenington]

Charles Lenington wrote:
> Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today?
>
> (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) 
> Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3)
>
>
> I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and 
> moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons 
> didn't work either.
>
> So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and
> shutdown,
> wait a couple minutes
> then restart.
>
> Change computer/user password.
> reboot
> replug cat 5.
>
> Hummm since I was online at bank when this started
>
>   
Well even more stranger.   Firefox came up with a update notice for 
3.5.3 (from 3.5.2 although I was already at 3.5.3). ran install 
everything looks ok so far.  Must of been a build change - I didn't 
notice the build number.

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Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Roger Kulp]

No,but I updated Safari yesterday,and it lost all my saved logins. >:(

    Roger




--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Charles Lenington  wrote:

From: Charles Lenington 
Subject: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue  issues
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:41 AM


Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today?

(Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) 
Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3)


I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and 
moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons 
didn't work either.

So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and
shutdown,
wait a couple minutes
then restart.

Change computer/user password.
reboot
replug cat 5.

Hummm since I was online at bank when this started





  
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firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues

[Charles Lenington]

Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today?

(Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) 
Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3)


I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and 
moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons 
didn't work either.

So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and
shutdown,
wait a couple minutes
then restart.

Change computer/user password.
reboot
replug cat 5.

Hummm since I was online at bank when this started

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