Re: [Gambas-user] Feature removal suggestion: Pressing Escape hides debug pane

[adamn...@gmail.com]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:54:22 -0400
Kevin Fishburne  wrote:

> On 09/21/2015 12:52 AM, Kevin Fishburne wrote:
> > On 09/19/2015 03:40 PM, Lewis Balentine wrote:
> >> On 09/19/2015 05:48 AM, Patrik Karlsson wrote:
> >>> 2015-09-19 7:16 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fishburne 
> >>> :
> >>>
>  When modifying a line of code there are context-sensitive pop-ups for
>  syntax help, code completion and method/property enumeration, which is
>  awesome. However, one type of pop-up requires that you press Escape to
>  clear and the others do not. Being unable to reliably differentiate
>  between pop-up types results in Escape being pressed in error which then
>  causes the debug pane to be hidden. When using the debug pane to jump
>  between search results, accidentally pressing Escape in an attempt to
>  clear the context-sensitive pop-up results in the debug pane, and
>  consequently the search results, being hidden. This significantly
>  interrupts workflow and has been annoying the shit out of me for
>  possibly years.
> 
>  I think the Escape key should be uncoupled from debug pane functionality
>  entirely, forcing the user to use a different key or perhaps the mouse
>  alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it. Is anyone else
>  experiencing this or is it just me?
> 
>  --
>  Kevin Fishburne
>  Eight Virtues
>  www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
>  e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com
>  phone: (770) 853-6271
> 
> 
> >>> You are not alone. :)
> >> "... perhaps the mouse alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it."
> >> There should always exist an alternate way to gracefully exit a dialog
> >> box lest the farmer's wife is hanging about with her carving knife.
> > Just use the window and you can generally avoid any run-ins with the
> > farmer or his knife-wielding wife...unless something else entirely is
> > going on and I've misunderstood.
> >
> > In any case, I've attached two images. Pressing Escape for enumeration
> > clears the enumeration pop-up. Pressing Escape for syntax help hides the
> > debug pane. Maybe Alt-Escape, Alt-Tab or something similar could toggle
> > debug pane visibility.
> >
> 
> Forgot the damned images...sorry.
> 
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> 
Actually, removing the escape that closes the console seems to me to be a 
better idea as it is not only the completion help that causes this problem. 
Sometimes I end up keyboarding something that opens a menu item, then Esc kills 
the console and 
but whatever  ... jai yen 

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Re: [Gambas-user] Feature removal suggestion: Pressing Escape hides debug pane

[Kevin Fishburne]

On 09/19/2015 03:40 PM, Lewis Balentine wrote:
> On 09/19/2015 05:48 AM, Patrik Karlsson wrote:
>> 2015-09-19 7:16 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fishburne :
>>
>>> When modifying a line of code there are context-sensitive pop-ups for
>>> syntax help, code completion and method/property enumeration, which is
>>> awesome. However, one type of pop-up requires that you press Escape to
>>> clear and the others do not. Being unable to reliably differentiate
>>> between pop-up types results in Escape being pressed in error which then
>>> causes the debug pane to be hidden. When using the debug pane to jump
>>> between search results, accidentally pressing Escape in an attempt to
>>> clear the context-sensitive pop-up results in the debug pane, and
>>> consequently the search results, being hidden. This significantly
>>> interrupts workflow and has been annoying the shit out of me for
>>> possibly years.
>>>
>>> I think the Escape key should be uncoupled from debug pane functionality
>>> entirely, forcing the user to use a different key or perhaps the mouse
>>> alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it. Is anyone else
>>> experiencing this or is it just me?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kevin Fishburne
>>> Eight Virtues
>>> www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
>>> e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com
>>> phone: (770) 853-6271
>>>
>>>
>> You are not alone. :)
>
> "... perhaps the mouse alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it."
> There should always exist an alternate way to gracefully exit a dialog
> box lest the farmer's wife is hanging about with her carving knife.

Just use the window and you can generally avoid any run-ins with the 
farmer or his knife-wielding wife...unless something else entirely is 
going on and I've misunderstood.

In any case, I've attached two images. Pressing Escape for enumeration 
clears the enumeration pop-up. Pressing Escape for syntax help hides the 
debug pane. Maybe Alt-Escape, Alt-Tab or something similar could toggle 
debug pane visibility.

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Eight Virtues
www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com
phone: (770) 853-6271


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Re: [Gambas-user] Feature removal suggestion: Pressing Escape hides debug pane

[Lewis Balentine]

"... perhaps the mouse alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it."
There should always exist an alternate way to gracefully exit a dialog 
box lest the farmer's wife is hanging about with her carving knife.


On 09/19/2015 05:48 AM, Patrik Karlsson wrote:
> 2015-09-19 7:16 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fishburne :
>
>> When modifying a line of code there are context-sensitive pop-ups for
>> syntax help, code completion and method/property enumeration, which is
>> awesome. However, one type of pop-up requires that you press Escape to
>> clear and the others do not. Being unable to reliably differentiate
>> between pop-up types results in Escape being pressed in error which then
>> causes the debug pane to be hidden. When using the debug pane to jump
>> between search results, accidentally pressing Escape in an attempt to
>> clear the context-sensitive pop-up results in the debug pane, and
>> consequently the search results, being hidden. This significantly
>> interrupts workflow and has been annoying the shit out of me for
>> possibly years.
>>
>> I think the Escape key should be uncoupled from debug pane functionality
>> entirely, forcing the user to use a different key or perhaps the mouse
>> alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it. Is anyone else
>> experiencing this or is it just me?
>>
>> --
>> Kevin Fishburne
>> Eight Virtues
>> www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
>> e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com
>> phone: (770) 853-6271
>>
>>
> You are not alone. :)
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Re: [Gambas-user] Feature removal suggestion: Pressing Escape hides debug pane

[Patrik Karlsson]

2015-09-19 7:16 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fishburne :

> When modifying a line of code there are context-sensitive pop-ups for
> syntax help, code completion and method/property enumeration, which is
> awesome. However, one type of pop-up requires that you press Escape to
> clear and the others do not. Being unable to reliably differentiate
> between pop-up types results in Escape being pressed in error which then
> causes the debug pane to be hidden. When using the debug pane to jump
> between search results, accidentally pressing Escape in an attempt to
> clear the context-sensitive pop-up results in the debug pane, and
> consequently the search results, being hidden. This significantly
> interrupts workflow and has been annoying the shit out of me for
> possibly years.
>
> I think the Escape key should be uncoupled from debug pane functionality
> entirely, forcing the user to use a different key or perhaps the mouse
> alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it. Is anyone else
> experiencing this or is it just me?
>
> --
> Kevin Fishburne
> Eight Virtues
> www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
> e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com
> phone: (770) 853-6271
>
>
You are not alone. :)
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[Gambas-user] Feature removal suggestion: Pressing Escape hides debug pane

[Kevin Fishburne]

When modifying a line of code there are context-sensitive pop-ups for 
syntax help, code completion and method/property enumeration, which is 
awesome. However, one type of pop-up requires that you press Escape to 
clear and the others do not. Being unable to reliably differentiate 
between pop-up types results in Escape being pressed in error which then 
causes the debug pane to be hidden. When using the debug pane to jump 
between search results, accidentally pressing Escape in an attempt to 
clear the context-sensitive pop-up results in the debug pane, and 
consequently the search results, being hidden. This significantly 
interrupts workflow and has been annoying the shit out of me for 
possibly years.

I think the Escape key should be uncoupled from debug pane functionality 
entirely, forcing the user to use a different key or perhaps the mouse 
alone to show/hide or otherwise manipulate it. Is anyone else 
experiencing this or is it just me?

-- 
Kevin Fishburne
Eight Virtues
www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com
phone: (770) 853-6271


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