[Gambas-user] Modules
Hi All, I am really struggling with the Gambas 3 documentation. Can anyone tell me where I can find out what constitutes a 'module' ? Best regards, John Leake -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules
A module is just a class whose all methods and properties are static. It's a thing coming from Visual Basic. Thank you. When and how is an instance instantiated ? -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote: Hi All, I am really struggling with the Gambas 3 documentation. Can anyone tell me where I can find out what constitutes a 'module' ? See [0]: A static class is a class whose all members are static (see below). In Gambas, a static class is also named a module. Regards, Tobi [0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/object-model -- There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever! -- Mr. Monk -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules
Le 15/09/2014 21:29, John Leake a écrit : A module is just a class whose all methods and properties are static. It's a thing coming from Visual Basic. Thank you. When and how is an instance instantiated ? It's static, that means it cannot be instantiated. -- Benoît Minisini -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules
What scope do Functions/Subs and variables have when defined or declared within a module ? -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules
Le 15/09/2014 21:43, John Leake a écrit : What scope do Functions/Subs and variables have when defined or declared within a module ? Private by default. It's like a class, except everything is static. -- Benoît Minisini -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:03:22 +0200 Benoît Minisini gam...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Le 15/09/2014 23:52, John Leake a écrit : Private by default. It's like a class, except everything is static. So if I have a module containing some general purpose functions that I wish to share across all the forms in a project, can simply declare these functions as Public within the module ? Yes. -- Benoît Minisini Also, if you need to share objects around the various parts of the project you can declare them in the module as either public variables or (if you want to add some shareable features) as properties of the module. However, remember this: As you are accessing static features you need to explicitly use the module name qualifier when you reference them in other code. So for example: in module MyUtil Public CurrentCustomer As CCustomer Public Sub Execute_Current_Customer(PrejudiceLevel As Integer) CurrentCustomer = Null End in, say, FMain Public Sub Load(CustID) MyUtil.CurrentCustomer.Load(CustID) If MyUtil.CurrentCustomer.IsLatePayer then MyUtil.Execute_Current_Customer(iExtreme) EndIf etc hth Bruce -- B Bruen adamn...@gmail.com Note: temporary change to email address -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
[Gambas-user] Modules not recognized
I've created a module called Paper, and a PUBLIC SUB DoPrint() on it, and when I try to invoke the module with PUBLIC SUB myButton_Click() Paper.DoPrint END from FMain, I'm getting error Unknown identifier Paper on FMain... Men, is this still Gambas??? This was the standard way of handling the modules in G2. :-( What's wrong? -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules not recognized
Hmmm, I see the examples have no modules. Does it mean that in G3 the modules are not working yet? 2011/6/30, M. Cs. mohar...@gmail.com: I've created a module called Paper, and a PUBLIC SUB DoPrint() on it, and when I try to invoke the module with PUBLIC SUB myButton_Click() Paper.DoPrint END from FMain, I'm getting error Unknown identifier Paper on FMain... Men, is this still Gambas??? This was the standard way of handling the modules in G2. :-( What's wrong? -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules not recognized
O.K. I've discovered that the modules should be added to the sources branch of the project! 2011/6/30, M. Cs. mohar...@gmail.com: Hmmm, I see the examples have no modules. Does it mean that in G3 the modules are not working yet? 2011/6/30, M. Cs. mohar...@gmail.com: I've created a module called Paper, and a PUBLIC SUB DoPrint() on it, and when I try to invoke the module with PUBLIC SUB myButton_Click() Paper.DoPrint END from FMain, I'm getting error Unknown identifier Paper on FMain... Men, is this still Gambas??? This was the standard way of handling the modules in G2. :-( What's wrong? -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
[Gambas-user] Modules cant raise events :-(
I have a module called env that holds three system wide objects (CurrentUser, CurrentProject, CurrentSystem). Lots of forms access and use these objects (Login, FMain etc etc). I am trying to signal an unknown number of listeners when one of these objects changes, for example is the user changes to another project. But modules cant raise events. I don't want to raise the event inside the objects classes (e.g. CurrentProject is an instance of Project) as ... actually I don't know why, but it seems wrong (the object itself doesn't know it's changed). I am having trouble coming up with a solution. Can anyone suggest a solution or a workaround? tia bruce -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Modules-cant-raise-events-%3A-%28-tp27104759p27104759.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules cant raise events :-(
I have a module called env that holds three system wide objects (CurrentUser, CurrentProject, CurrentSystem). Lots of forms access and use these objects (Login, FMain etc etc). I am trying to signal an unknown number of listeners when one of these objects changes, for example is the user changes to another project. But modules cant raise events. I don't want to raise the event inside the objects classes (e.g. CurrentProject is an instance of Project) as ... actually I don't know why, but it seems wrong (the object itself doesn't know it's changed). I am having trouble coming up with a solution. Can anyone suggest a solution or a workaround? tia bruce If CurrentUser, CurrentProject and CurrentSystem are the objects that change, then they should raise the events, not the module where they are declared. Shouldn't they? An event is the way an object tells the world it has changed. If you can't, then there is something not clear in your design. Anyway, you can register your listeners in an object array in your module, and call specific procedures of these object references when something change. It's more like some sort of bus. I did that in the IDE. For example, when the project state changes (a new project is loaded, the project enters debugging mode, and so on...), the same procedure is called on all opened forms. Regards, -- Benoît Minisini -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Modules cant raise events :-(
Hi Benoit, Benoît Minisini wrote: If CurrentUser, CurrentProject and CurrentSystem are the objects that change, then they should raise the events, not the module where they are declared. Shouldn't they? An event is the way an object tells the world it has changed. If you can't, then there is something not clear in your design. Actually, it was something unclear in my explanation. Its the whole instance that gets changed, for example, FReconnect allows the user to change the CurrentProject. So before it exits, we have codeenv.CurrentProject = selectedProject/code where selectedProject is a Project instance and env has a Property CurrentProject and codePRIVATE SUB CurrentProject_Write(Value AS Project) $currentProject = Value END/code In other words, I am overwriting the whole instance in env (or providing a new replacement pointer, if you prefer). So, more specifically, $currentProject doesn't know it's been replaced. Benoît Minisini wrote: Anyway, you can register your listeners in an object array in your module, and call specific procedures of these object references when something change. It's more like some sort of bus. I did that in the IDE. For example, when the project state changes (a new project is loaded, the project enters debugging mode, and so on...), the same procedure is called on all opened forms. This sounds like what I may be looking for! Could you provide a bit more of a clue where to look as there is a lot of good stuff in the IDE project... but there is quite a lot of code too! Finally, just out of interest, why can't modules raise events? Regards, bruce -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Modules-cant-raise-events-%3A-%28-tp27104759p27105479.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] modules
Benoît Minisini a écrit : Hi list, I wonder if it is possible to create modules dependencies in order to automatically load N modules when you only select one? JY You mean, when loading a module at runtime? well, both @ runtime and when beginning the project when you choose the components modules you need. ie: base_erp that calls users, clients, suppliers, docs, ... without having to check them. I don't understand what you need: can you give more details? -- Benoît Minisini -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] modules
Benoît Minisini a écrit : Benoît Minisini a écrit : Hi list, I wonder if it is possible to create modules dependencies in order to automatically load N modules when you only select one? JY You mean, when loading a module at runtime? well, both @ runtime and when beginning the project when you choose the components modules you need. ie: base_erp that calls users, clients, suppliers, docs, ... without having to check them. I don't understand what you need: can you give more details? ok, I wanna make a software that is broken in different system-like modules (as of gb.qt, gb.gtk...) and I'd like the dependencies to be automatic when I start another project base upon these modules -- -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
[Gambas-user] modules
Hi list, I wonder if it is possible to create modules dependencies in order to automatically load N modules when you only select one? JY -- Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. -- Stephen Coonts, The Minotaur -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] modules
Hi list, I wonder if it is possible to create modules dependencies in order to automatically load N modules when you only select one? JY You mean, when loading a module at runtime? -- Benoît Minisini -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] modules
Benoît Minisini a écrit : Hi list, I wonder if it is possible to create modules dependencies in order to automatically load N modules when you only select one? JY You mean, when loading a module at runtime? well, both @ runtime and when beginning the project when you choose the components modules you need. ie: base_erp that calls users, clients, suppliers, docs, ... without having to check them. -- Chaos is King and Magic is loose in the world. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
