Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck?
You know. I could never get started in fallthrough. I always died in the first two minutes. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck? Hi. Yep, on my one occasion getting into the cave I did notice the leaches of doom. The problem is for some very odd reason, I'm not sure what triggers that stairway down to appear or not, it just seems to randomly appear or not at some points, which is a litle frustrating. To be honest at the moment I'm making my way back to the hole in the wall to try the maze there and hopefully get a silver key, sinse that will get me into a lot more dungeons. I don't particularly need the money, I've got a good 900 ralls from fighting warriors and renigades, but I'd like the rubies to go into my gold ring fund. Beware the Grue! Dark. Before, the demon in their totally destroyed me, but i think I should be able to do something about that now, sinse I've been fighting a lot of warriors and am about 30 levels stronger, pluss I have a bow and some arrows. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck? >I have to say this is probably one of the tougher puzzles in the game. >And its going to be rather hard to give a hint for without giving the >solution away, but I can try I suppose. > > Possible Spoiler > > It does involve that stairway leading down. The game doesn't > acknowledge the door as a door because there's a special way you have to open it. > You'll need to actually go down into the cave. The only hint I can > think to give is that you'll need to keep your strength up and have a > fair amount of luck down there. Hth, and good luck! > > -- > From: "dark" > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:27 AM > To: > Subject: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck? > >> Hi. >> >> well I've got into darkwater cave, or at least into the dome. >> >> there seems to be something odd going on though. i can walk through >> several passages, one of which has a huge door with a symbol on >> it which lead to a dead end, the symbol on the door just seems >> to be a sign of where the dead end is. >> >> I can't unlock the door, in fact the game doesn't even seem to >> recognize that there is a door there at all. >> >> Once, when walking through one passage near the door I happened to >> see a stairway down, but like an idiot I'd not bought my lamp so >> couldn't head down there. >> >> I'm not sure though what the heck triggered this to appear, or >> whether indeed it just turned up at random. >> >> does anyone have any idea how I can get into the cave? >> >> I'd really like that wherering. >> >> Any help would be much appreciated. >> >> Beware the Grue! >> >> Dark. >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, pleas
Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck?
Hi. Yep, on my one occasion getting into the cave I did notice the leaches of doom. The problem is for some very odd reason, I'm not sure what triggers that stairway down to appear or not, it just seems to randomly appear or not at some points, which is a litle frustrating. To be honest at the moment I'm making my way back to the hole in the wall to try the maze there and hopefully get a silver key, sinse that will get me into a lot more dungeons. I don't particularly need the money, I've got a good 900 ralls from fighting warriors and renigades, but I'd like the rubies to go into my gold ring fund. Beware the Grue! Dark. Before, the demon in their totally destroyed me, but i think I should be able to do something about that now, sinse I've been fighting a lot of warriors and am about 30 levels stronger, pluss I have a bow and some arrows. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck? I have to say this is probably one of the tougher puzzles in the game. And its going to be rather hard to give a hint for without giving the solution away, but I can try I suppose. Possible Spoiler It does involve that stairway leading down. The game doesn't acknowledge the door as a door because there's a special way you have to open it. You'll need to actually go down into the cave. The only hint I can think to give is that you'll need to keep your strength up and have a fair amount of luck down there. Hth, and good luck! -- From: "dark" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:27 AM To: Subject: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck? Hi. well I've got into darkwater cave, or at least into the dome. there seems to be something odd going on though. i can walk through several passages, one of which has a huge door with a symbol on it which lead to a dead end, the symbol on the door just seems to be a sign of where the dead end is. I can't unlock the door, in fact the game doesn't even seem to recognize that there is a door there at all. Once, when walking through one passage near the door I happened to see a stairway down, but like an idiot I'd not bought my lamp so couldn't head down there. I'm not sure though what the heck triggered this to appear, or whether indeed it just turned up at random. does anyone have any idea how I can get into the cave? I'd really like that wherering. Any help would be much appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mk vs DCU: combo challenges for the blind.
Very cool. How did you find out that info. Or was it a lot of guess work. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Mk vs DCU: combo challenges for the blind. This is a text file I'm creating that will eventually contain all combo challenges. link is at the bottom of this email. You guys can add to it if you wish, and reupload. If people contribute, we can probably finish it much quicker for everyone's benefit. A couple things I want to point out: 1. this particular file is for ps3, so if you have the game for the xbox 360 and decide to add content to the file, please don't write any references to xbox 360 buttons. It'll just confuse people if some challenges say x and others say a or something. create a separate text file and replace the buttons as needed if that's what you wish to do. I could've simply written attack 1, 2, etc for naming buttons, but I figured it would be much easier to write square, triangle, and so on. not to mention less confusion. 2. If you decide to add content, please keep the same format. It'll make things a lot simpler. 3. I can't possibly explain how to perform each combo. It would be way too time consuming. only the button combinations are listed. You will need to figure out if you need to wait between button presses, how long, if the moves are pro moves or normal moves, etc. This combo challenge guide isn't really suited for mk newbie's that have never played mk, it is for those of us that have played mk games for a long time and are familiar with its sound effects and mechanics. Here's how to get to the combo challenge option. 1. From the main menu, hit x 2. go down twice, and hit x. this should be the penultimate option since the menus don't rap. 3. You'll find yourself at a character selection screen. Pick a person's who's combo challenge you wish to perform, and an opponent. 4. You'll be at a screen with 10 items you can move through from left to write. these don't rap either, and this is actually the list of challenges. They are also numbered starting from 1 at the far left, and ending with 10 all the way to the write. If you haven't completed any challenges for a particular character, you'll start at number 1. If you have completed some challenges, you'll start where you left off. so for instance let's say you completed Sonya's first 3 combo challenges, next time you pick her, you'll be at challenge 4. convenient, isn't it? also when you've completed a challenge, you'll move to the next automatically. You'll know you completed a challenge, cause you'll here a very distinct dinging sound. in fact, I believe it's the same sound you hear when you use a breaker. That's about it. I do want to point out that these challenges are... well... challenging to put it lightly. Trust me you will get very angry at the game and at your controller. disclaimer! I shall not be held responsible if you decide to toss your system out the nearest window. DO it at your own risk lol I think I've covered everything in this lengthy email. It'll probably be a great idea to save it cause I'll most likely not retype it. If you guys need some help with combo challenge, feel free to drop me an email and I'll respond as soon as possible. link is below http://www.sendspace.com/file/agvtqj --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] ts2 tracks and cars
Hi. this is for those that posted off and on list about this stuff. http://www.divshare.com/download/6308462-b1e --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moving up in Lusternia
what address do you go to for starwars? At 12:15 p.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: >Che: >I > Have a character also on their. My character name is Marham. I just went >there once or twice. Want to go back there but I spend a lot of time on >Miriani and Star Wars. > >-Original Message- >From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On >Behalf Of Che >Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:03 PM >To: Gamers Discussion list >Subject: [Audyssey] Moving up in Lusternia > > Hi gang, > Not sure if any folks here are playing the Lusternia mud or not, but it is >really good so far. > I joined about 3 days ago, I'm currently circle 10, but I'm not sure what >I should be training at this point. > I am a paladin, and so far I've been concentrating on knighthood. > Also, I can't seem to find the eggs to do the queen ant quest. > Btw my name on there is Shay. > The info to play the mud is: >www.lusternia.com:23 > Thanks much, >Che (Pronounced shay, no matter what jaws might think) >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] something else I forgot to point out about combo challenge. important!
If you complete some challenges and wish to quit the game, whatever you do, do not! use the quit option without exiting to the main menu first. The challenges are only saved once the game fully exits to the main menu. If you press the ps button and exit without going to the main menu first, all your progress from that session will be lost. trust me you won't be very happy about this so make sure you quit properly. that's all - For video game music and related content, check out the following site: http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Mk vs DCU: combo challenges for the blind.
This is a text file I'm creating that will eventually contain all combo challenges. link is at the bottom of this email. You guys can add to it if you wish, and reupload. If people contribute, we can probably finish it much quicker for everyone's benefit. A couple things I want to point out: 1. this particular file is for ps3, so if you have the game for the xbox 360 and decide to add content to the file, please don't write any references to xbox 360 buttons. It'll just confuse people if some challenges say x and others say a or something. create a separate text file and replace the buttons as needed if that's what you wish to do. I could've simply written attack 1, 2, etc for naming buttons, but I figured it would be much easier to write square, triangle, and so on. not to mention less confusion. 2. If you decide to add content, please keep the same format. It'll make things a lot simpler. 3. I can't possibly explain how to perform each combo. It would be way too time consuming. only the button combinations are listed. You will need to figure out if you need to wait between button presses, how long, if the moves are pro moves or normal moves, etc. This combo challenge guide isn't really suited for mk newbie's that have never played mk, it is for those of us that have played mk games for a long time and are familiar with its sound effects and mechanics. Here's how to get to the combo challenge option. 1. From the main menu, hit x 2. go down twice, and hit x. this should be the penultimate option since the menus don't rap. 3. You'll find yourself at a character selection screen. Pick a person's who's combo challenge you wish to perform, and an opponent. 4. You'll be at a screen with 10 items you can move through from left to write. these don't rap either, and this is actually the list of challenges. They are also numbered starting from 1 at the far left, and ending with 10 all the way to the write. If you haven't completed any challenges for a particular character, you'll start at number 1. If you have completed some challenges, you'll start where you left off. so for instance let's say you completed Sonya's first 3 combo challenges, next time you pick her, you'll be at challenge 4. convenient, isn't it? also when you've completed a challenge, you'll move to the next automatically. You'll know you completed a challenge, cause you'll here a very distinct dinging sound. in fact, I believe it's the same sound you hear when you use a breaker. That's about it. I do want to point out that these challenges are... well... challenging to put it lightly. Trust me you will get very angry at the game and at your controller. disclaimer! I shall not be held responsible if you decide to toss your system out the nearest window. DO it at your own risk lol I think I've covered everything in this lengthy email. It'll probably be a great idea to save it cause I'll most likely not retype it. If you guys need some help with combo challenge, feel free to drop me an email and I'll respond as soon as possible. link is below http://www.sendspace.com/file/agvtqj --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Speedwalking in vipMud
Ah oops. Nevermind... On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:25 PM, Che wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get speedwalking working in VIPMud. I have followed all directions in the help file, but when I execute the speed walk, I only take the first step and stop. I have turned slow walking on, and set a trigger to send #ok after each step. Anybody got this to work on muds where you have to slow walk? thanks, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Speedwalking in vipMud
Hmm. Lasternia has directions in help files? Now that I didn't see when I last played there. On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:25 PM, Che wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get speedwalking working in VIPMud. I have followed all directions in the help file, but when I execute the speed walk, I only take the first step and stop. I have turned slow walking on, and set a trigger to send #ok after each step. Anybody got this to work on muds where you have to slow walk? thanks, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Speedwalking in vipMud
Hi all, I am trying to get speedwalking working in VIPMud. I have followed all directions in the help file, but when I execute the speed walk, I only take the first step and stop. I have turned slow walking on, and set a trigger to send #ok after each step. Anybody got this to work on muds where you have to slow walk? thanks, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck?
I have to say this is probably one of the tougher puzzles in the game. And its going to be rather hard to give a hint for without giving the solution away, but I can try I suppose. Possible Spoiler It does involve that stairway leading down. The game doesn't acknowledge the door as a door because there's a special way you have to open it. You'll need to actually go down into the cave. The only hint I can think to give is that you'll need to keep your strength up and have a fair amount of luck down there. Hth, and good luck! -- From: "dark" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:27 AM To: Subject: [Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck? Hi. well I've got into darkwater cave, or at least into the dome. there seems to be something odd going on though. i can walk through several passages, one of which has a huge door with a symbol on it which lead to a dead end, the symbol on the door just seems to be a sign of where the dead end is. I can't unlock the door, in fact the game doesn't even seem to recognize that there is a door there at all. Once, when walking through one passage near the door I happened to see a stairway down, but like an idiot I'd not bought my lamp so couldn't head down there. I'm not sure though what the heck triggered this to appear, or whether indeed it just turned up at random. does anyone have any idea how I can get into the cave? I'd really like that wherering. Any help would be much appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sale On Rail Racer ending this week
Yep, was defenetely worth my purchase of nearly 50 canadian dollars. It takes a bit of getting used to, which is why most people may not like it right off. I'm tempted to quote a review here but won't. Anyway, just try it for a long while. I had to, but I finally learned most techniques. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Che" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Sale On Rail Racer ending this week Hi all, The holiday sale on Rail Racer will be ending this Friday at midnight, at which time the price will be returning to $33. Right now the price is $19.95. If you haven't tried this game, you are really missing out, especially when it comes to online play. Rail Racer was voted game of the year for 2007 in a poll of accessible games , and for good reason. But don't take my word for it, Ask anyone on list here that owns the game what they think, it provides plenty of blind adrenaline indeed. To find out more, go to: www.blindAdrenaline.com Take care, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1888 - Release Date: 1/12/2009 7:04 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moving up in Lusternia
Che: I Have a character also on their. My character name is Marham. I just went there once or twice. Want to go back there but I spend a lot of time on Miriani and Star Wars. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Che Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Moving up in Lusternia Hi gang, Not sure if any folks here are playing the Lusternia mud or not, but it is really good so far. I joined about 3 days ago, I'm currently circle 10, but I'm not sure what I should be training at this point. I am a paladin, and so far I've been concentrating on knighthood. Also, I can't seem to find the eggs to do the queen ant quest. Btw my name on there is Shay. The info to play the mud is: www.lusternia.com:23 Thanks much, Che (Pronounced shay, no matter what jaws might think) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
Hi Dark and all, No, the magazine is not saved in the archives. The archives has a max of 8 KB per message. The mag is much larger so the archives won't save it. dark wrote: one of the reasons I wanted links to the issue for audiogames.net is that I couldn't get the archived version from either the announce only list or, funnily enough, this one! for the announce list I got the 504 you mentioned, and the post with the issue didn't seem to show up in the public archives at all, even though I've got it, and read it! (nice job phil). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator note Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
Hi Charles and all, First, by being a member of this list everyone should automatically recieve the magazine when it is posted. however, as passed releases have proven not everyone actually recieves it for some reason. Neither Raul or I have been able to figure out exactly why not everyone gets the magazine. Second, since this is an issue for some many people I'll upload the mag to the USA Games site this afternoon/tonight and let everyone know where to grab it. HTH. Charles Rivard wrote: I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding correct in that we, as members of this list, automatically get it in our inboxes? If so, something's screwy somewhere, because, as I say, I haven't received it. If members don't get a copy, where's the best source to download it rather than just viewing it online? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Sale On Rail Racer ending this week
Hi all, The holiday sale on Rail Racer will be ending this Friday at midnight, at which time the price will be returning to $33. Right now the price is $19.95. If you haven't tried this game, you are really missing out, especially when it comes to online play. Rail Racer was voted game of the year for 2007 in a poll of accessible games , and for good reason. But don't take my word for it, Ask anyone on list here that owns the game what they think, it provides plenty of blind adrenaline indeed. To find out more, go to: www.blindAdrenaline.com Take care, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
Hi Hayri, It depends if your service pack is the upgrade or the full install. The full install is several hundred MB in size. if you have that version go ahead and install it. if you only have the little upgrade then you need to get the .NET 3.5 setup, install it, and then apply the SP1 updates. Hayri Tulumcu wrote: can i install. NET Framework V 3.5 Service Pack 1 or should i install. NET Framework 3.5 V first? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moving up in Lusternia
Hi gang, Not sure if any folks here are playing the Lusternia mud or not, but it is really good so far. I joined about 3 days ago, I'm currently circle 10, but I'm not sure what I should be training at this point. I am a paladin, and so far I've been concentrating on knighthood. Also, I can't seem to find the eggs to do the queen ant quest. Btw my name on there is Shay. The info to play the mud is: www.lusternia.com:23 Thanks much, Che (Pronounced shay, no matter what jaws might think) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question about video game developers
Hi Dakotah, Well said. My thoughts exactly. As a game developer myself i certainly know many games can be made accessible. on the other hand there are limits to how far I can go with accessibility. Obviously anything specifically requiring vision won't work at all. Often times there is simply no sound for a certain item, object, etc. Sometimes the design of the level is such that it is hard if not impossible to navigate while being blind. A case in point. In Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness there is a room in the Hall of Seasons filled with lava. There are little stones jutting up out of the lava you can use to jump onto to get across the lava. however, they are at such odd angles I have never managed to get lined up correctly to jump on to them. Plus when you land on one it starts to sink meaning once you get over the lava, get the crystals, you can not use the same stones coming back across. There are sighted gamers that have troubles playing that level, and it is impossible for a blind person to play it without some serious sighted help. I've tried coming up with my own accessible version of that level and it isn't easy. If a company was really going to make the game accessible it would be better to just scrub the entire level or line all the stones up in a row or something. That would in turn defeat the challenge for sighted players. There is only so much we can ask for before companies tell us point blank accessibility can't be done without sacrificing large portions of the games replay value. Dakotah Rickard wrote: I agree that there are many games which would only require slight tweeking to make them accessible, there are many more which would require an overhaul of the entire game structure. Consider the popular game, The Sims. If one wanted to make that accessible, first of all, they would have to find a way to label anything and everything in the game somehow. There would have to be an enormous amount of keystrokes, which I've found most people don't like, and you'd have to slow down the game clock to get everyone to be able to do what they need to do. Many of the developers of the world aren't big developers, percentage-wise, but almost every game you see on store shelves was released by a company. If you're part of a company, it doesn't matter whether you have no blind family members or come home to a completely blind wife, kids, dog, and toaster oven. You do what the companyies' higher-ups say. If the higher-ups have blind family members, they know that it sucks that there aren't many games for the blind, but they have a company to run. Let's face it. We are a minority. Not only are we a minority, we're a hard minority to grasp, because it's not based on ethnicity or creed or anything like that. Some people, from every population, are simply blind. So, if you take the fact that making some mainstream games accessible is a project that would either be impossible or would take the fun out of the games, combined with the industrially required indifference of big companies, we either need to get all the developers of accessible games together into one company that has loads of talent working for it, or we need to rely on individual developers to do the best they can. I'm not saying that it's impossible for big companies to eventually consider us when making games, but it's going to be a while, and there are some games that, I believe, we are going to have to accept that we just can't play. It kind of sucks, but there it is. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Issue 54?
Hi All, I am pretty sure I didn't miss much from my inbox last night. Nevertheless, I'm a little puzzled as to the whereabouts of Audyssey magazine, Issue 54. I can't seem to find it on any of the usual archive sites, nor is it in the gamer's list archive for that matter. I'm wondering if anybody might be able to forward me their copy? My email address is: kli...@onid.orst.edu. Thanks much, Zack. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
Hi Will, Check your inbox. If you have a lot of messages in your inbox chanses are you simply missed it. william lomas wrote: where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question about video game developers
Hi, The "don't call us we will call you" mentality is the usual responce from major corperations. Let's face the truth. They don't want to hear from us. We are simply an annoying minority to them. The Kolesar Brothers wrote: Now this is true. Why must everything have to be special? Now let's blind fold the 99 percent who don't have a blind family member, a blind friend or doesn't work with a blind person. With phisical force feedback, I wished that the wei system was blind friendly. I even offered to beta test their system for them and give feedback from a blind consumer. But their responce was don't call us we'll call you. So that's my two cents on this thread. Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Railracer
Hi, If you need a download for rail racer and you have a serial key, you can email me directly at c...@blindadrenaline.com Later, Che - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Railracer Hello. Was wondering when I go to download railracer the latest version it won't let me do it says the page can't be found, is that part of the site down? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360...
As I've said before it's the only game that ever came close to giving me nightmares. You don't even have to be able to see - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360... Hi, yeah, the game likes to screw with your mind on more than one level. Definitely not for the faint of heart. Grin. Bryan Peterson wrote: Don't forget Microsoft's infamous blue screen of death. The game even throws some effects at you that make you think your game is acting up. The worst one is the one where you go to save your game and it tells you that you've just successfully deleted your saved game. There's even a "to be continued" message that hints at a sequel to Eternal Darkness, though nothing has been said for certain one way or the other on that score. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business
Hi Hayri, That is a well known bug in the latest releases of Monkey Business. Draconis Entertainment is aware of the problem, but can't effectively reproduce and fix that bug. If you have the bug i recommend downgrading to an earlier release before said bug started appearing. Hayri Tulumcu wrote: when I have completed level 5 then skips game to level 7 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
Remember, it's an optional download, so to get it through windows update you have to do it manually through the windows update service. shaun everiss wrote: it should come as part of the windows update download. note though that you will not be able to install dotnet with service packs just like that you need to run windows update twice as its 2 packages. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question about video game developers
Hi Jason, It is a lot more complicated than you perhaps realize. There is a lot more involved than a choice to have or not have accessibility. You and others might find this difficult to except, but there are some things that can never be and never will be accessible to us for a number of reasons. First, there is a lot that goes on in mainstream games that can't be described or made accessible because it requires sight to play. In the Tomb Raider games there are a variety of puzzles that you absolutely have to have sight for in order to solve them. It is not a matter that adding sounds could fix, and we can't expect a developer to take the puzzle out of the game just because a blind person can' not see to solve the puzzle. Second, it is a fact that blind gamers, on average, play slower than our sighted counterparts. We depend so much on audio that we have to listen to our health, location, direction, etc to get anything meaningful out of the game. Often times the game is paused while we do this. Most sighted gamers would hate it, and it would lead to complaints about game x unless said feature could be turned off. In an online game setting sighted gamers would always have an advantage over us. Third we haven't even talked about cost. If we wanted accessib ility features such as a built in TTS Engine every Play Station, Wii, XBox would have to be completely redesigned to offer a variety of accesssibility features in their development kits. Then, game companies would have to update x number of games, game engines, etc to meett the new accessibility standards. We are talking about millions of dollars spent in research and development to meet accessibility standards. Frankly financially it probably isn't worth it to big companies. it would cost them more to create the technology then they are likely to get back in sales. Fourth, it would matter very little if a developers family member went blind. Most of the programmers work for a company and it is their bosses that make the decisions. They often have very little choice about things like accessibility features unless the heads of the company make it a polacy to do so. Besides I think you and I both know in general people have negative stereotypes about blindness anyway. Blindness is seen as some horrable disability where the person is either a superman or totally helpless. If you do something they think is amazing you are Superman. If you are unable to do something simple they might view you as helpless. Even in college I was around college educated people who were absolutely, totally, unbelievably ignorant of what I could and could not do as a blind person. It is a variety of stereotypes, myths, etc that hold us back because the general public is just ignorant about our needs and wants. Even if they become aware of it we are too small a minority to be financially worth their while. jason wrote: I have a question why is it so hard for a developer to make their games accessible for disabilities. it's just to hard to go out of their way to do this. , or we just a minority? I mean video games have been out for years now, and you would think they would get the hint? wow it's amazing what people think sometimes. I guess it has to happen to them, meaning to have one of their family members have a disability in order to get something accomplished for us. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com skype contact kb3icc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
depends what and when you updated, I know it now does 3.5 as an update. should automatically install. Note though that this could be an optional update so if you don't see it as a critical then you need to use the windows update site and install the optional. after that any criticals to the optional like service packs will be installed automatically if you have it that way or it will be in the critical package listings. At 10:18 a.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: >But would it not just download the update and then you tell it to >install like you would any other update? > >-Original Message- >From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] >On Behalf Of Willem >Sent: 12 January 2009 21:07 >To: Gamers Discussion list >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? > > >It would, but it would take more bandwidth. Windows update also doesn't >install dotNet 3.5 for you. >Darren Harris wrote: >> Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? >> > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: >01/11/09 17:57:00 > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: >01/11/09 17:57:00 > > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
yeah lagit stuff gets flagged as spam often and spam becomes lagit. Who knows. At 10:09 a.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: >It's probably laying in some peoples webmail spam folders. It's strange how >some messages that really isn't spam gets flagged as spam. >Ron Schamerhorn wrote: >>Hi Charles >> >> That's odd and something that I don't understand. The issue arrived here >> with no trouble. I am having trouble posting to the announce list getting a >> 504 error so perhaps there is some reason connected to that. Though it does >> seem strange that some get the issue from the list while others don't. >> >>Ron >> >>- Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:37 PM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site >> >> >>I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding correct in that we, as >>members of this list, automatically get it in our inboxes? If so, >>something's screwy somewhere, because, as I say, I haven't received it. If >>members don't get a copy, where's the best source to download it rather than >>just viewing it online? Thanks. >> >>--- >>If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. >>- Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:50 AM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site >> >> >> >>>Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. >>> >>>HTH >>>Ron >>> >>>- Original Message - From: "william lomas" >>> >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>>Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site >>> >>> >>>where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it >>>any news from draconis in it yet? >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
it should. At least it did for me. At 10:07 a.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: >It would, but it would take more bandwidth. Windows update also doesn't >install dotNet 3.5 for you. >Darren Harris wrote: >>Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360...
since we are on the subject of console game and accessible games in general, I would like a game like the hidden and dangerous series, you are a soldier, but you can command your tank, but also any enemy vehicles/bases you capture. Speaking on the console front, I have found that starwars lego 1 and 2 with sighted help is good, I play with my cousin as a team, I shoot and he pilots. As well as this my cousin is into this series called wrachit or something like that. You are I think either a soldier or a robot, you have different missions, and simulations on your ship. You can buy upgrades to yourself. You earn bolts, which is the cash in the game. Everything from the stuff you find, money and other items to your points you score earns you cash. Everything you kill will convert into cash imediately. I'd like to play something like that. At 10:01 a.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: >Hi, >yeah, the game likes to screw with your mind on more than one level. >Definitely not for the faint of heart. Grin. > >Bryan Peterson wrote: >>Don't forget Microsoft's infamous blue screen of death. The game even throws >>some effects at you that make you think your game is acting up. The worst one >>is the one where you go to save your game and it tells you that you've just >>successfully deleted your saved game. There's even a "to be continued" >>message that hints at a sequel to Eternal Darkness, though nothing has been >>said for certain one way or the other on that score. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
it should come as part of the windows update download. note though that you will not be able to install dotnet with service packs just like that you need to run windows update twice as its 2 packages. At 09:27 a.m. 13/01/2009, you wrote: >Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? > >-Original Message- >From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] >On Behalf Of Hayri Tulumcu >Sent: 12 January 2009 19:36 >To: Gamers Discussion list >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? > > > I thought that you could just download it fulle package .NET >Framework >3.5 SP 1 and then installed both So .NET Framework 3.5 and .NET >Framework >3.5 SP 1 > fulle package: > >http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/0/e/20e90413-712f-438c-988e-fda >a79a8ac3d/dotnetfx35.exe > > >- Original Message - >From: "Chris Hallsworth" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:55 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? > > >> Install .Net Framework 3.5 first before service pack 1. >> >> -- >> Chris Hallsworth >> E-mail: christopherhallswort...@googlemail.com >> MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com >> Skype: chrishallsworth7266 >> - Original Message - >> From: "Hayri Tulumcu" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:24 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? >> >> >>> can i install. NET Framework V 3.5 Service Pack 1 or should i >>> install. NET Framework 3.5 V first? >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: >01/11/09 17:57:00 > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: >01/11/09 17:57:00 > > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
It could download the service pack for you, but why do that when you can install the new framework, service pack included? If you already have .net 3.5 installed, the short answer is yes. Darren Harris wrote: But would it not just download the update and then you tell it to install like you would any other update? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Willem Sent: 12 January 2009 21:07 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? It would, but it would take more bandwidth. Windows update also doesn't install dotNet 3.5 for you. Darren Harris wrote: Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: 01/11/09 17:57:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: 01/11/09 17:57:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] labeling graphics of the game
Hi Jason, No, you can't label the graphics with a screen reader. The kind of graphics you are thinking of and the graphics in the vidio game are two completely different things. It is one thing to label a toolbar and quite another when trying to label graphics for a vidio game. It is technically impossible. jason wrote: I guess it's impossible to label the graphics or have the developers of World of Warcraft do that. It is just a suggestion. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com skype contact kb3icc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about audeasy mag
Hi Charles, Issue 54 came out Sunday afternoon. HTH. Charles Rivard wrote: When did the last issue come out, and which issue is it? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about audeasy mag
Hi Ron, Please, send me a copy of that zip file as well. I'll talk to Raul this week about getting the Audysey web site updated with the magazines. Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi Dark I do attempt to check the links and keep them accurate. I will be [with any luck] sending a zip file off to Kelly Sapergea so his site should be up to date. I'm also wanting to create a full zip for anyone else who hosts the magazine. Requests are welcome. TTFN Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about audeasy mag
Hi Dark, Technically the Audyssey web site should be the main archive, but since Raul has changed jobs he hasn't had time to do that. Perhaps I'll talk to Raul and see if he will let me do the web site updates myself. For the time being Kelly's web site and Audiogames.net are the best two resources. dark wrote: Hi. I was just going to write up a news post for audiogames.net to the effect that the new issue of audeasy was out, but last time we had lots of comments from people asking where to read it online. I'm afraid I'm not sure where the magazines are archived anymore, or indeed if they are, but I'd appreciate some info from Ron or anyone in charge of archiving on this point. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
But would it not just download the update and then you tell it to install like you would any other update? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Willem Sent: 12 January 2009 21:07 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? It would, but it would take more bandwidth. Windows update also doesn't install dotNet 3.5 for you. Darren Harris wrote: > Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: 01/11/09 17:57:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: 01/11/09 17:57:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
It's probably laying in some peoples webmail spam folders. It's strange how some messages that really isn't spam gets flagged as spam. Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi Charles That's odd and something that I don't understand. The issue arrived here with no trouble. I am having trouble posting to the announce list getting a 504 error so perhaps there is some reason connected to that. Though it does seem strange that some get the issue from the list while others don't. Ron - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding correct in that we, as members of this list, automatically get it in our inboxes? If so, something's screwy somewhere, because, as I say, I haven't received it. If members don't get a copy, where's the best source to download it rather than just viewing it online? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
It would, but it would take more bandwidth. Windows update also doesn't install dotNet 3.5 for you. Darren Harris wrote: Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360...
Hi Bryan, Yeah, right. I was getting Eternal Darkness and Silent Hill reversed. Silent Hill is the game for the Play Station. Eternal Darkness was for the Nintendo Game Cube. Thanks for unfuzzing my brain. Lol! Bryan Peterson wrote: It's actually Game Cube Thomas, not Play Station. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360...
Hi, yeah, the game likes to screw with your mind on more than one level. Definitely not for the faint of heart. Grin. Bryan Peterson wrote: Don't forget Microsoft's infamous blue screen of death. The game even throws some effects at you that make you think your game is acting up. The worst one is the one where you go to save your game and it tells you that you've just successfully deleted your saved game. There's even a "to be continued" message that hints at a sequel to Eternal Darkness, though nothing has been said for certain one way or the other on that score. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio rpgs
Hi Dark, Hmmm... I don't know about that. The GMA and Genesis engines were not designed for RPG style games. As for Genesis I know RPG's are currently not possible. I mainly designed it for First person and Third Person style games. dark wrote: Interesting plan and I agree a good idea. Something perhaps could be done with the gma or genesis engine. The gma engine in particular i noticed in sarah had a lot of features possibly rpg worthy, all the exploration stuff, and shades revealed basic leveling and weapons. Of course having the capability to produce it and having a developer work on it, with all the time and effort that involves are two very different things. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
Wouldn't it just come as part of the windows update download? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayri Tulumcu Sent: 12 January 2009 19:36 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? I thought that you could just download it fulle package .NET Framework 3.5 SP 1 and then installed both So .NET Framework 3.5 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP 1 fulle package: http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/0/e/20e90413-712f-438c-988e-fda a79a8ac3d/dotnetfx35.exe - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? > Install .Net Framework 3.5 first before service pack 1. > > -- > Chris Hallsworth > E-mail: christopherhallswort...@googlemail.com > MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com > Skype: chrishallsworth7266 > - Original Message - > From: "Hayri Tulumcu" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:24 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? > > >> can i install. NET Framework V 3.5 Service Pack 1 or should i >> install. NET Framework 3.5 V first? >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: 01/11/09 17:57:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.229 / Virus Database: 270.10.6/1887 - Release Date: 01/11/09 17:57:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] [Spam] Re: Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
one of the reasons I wanted links to the issue for audiogames.net is that I couldn't get the archived version from either the announce only list or, funnily enough, this one! for the announce list I got the 504 you mentioned, and the post with the issue didn't seem to show up in the public archives at all, even though I've got it, and read it! (nice job phil). Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: [Spam] Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site Hi Charles That's odd and something that I don't understand. The issue arrived here with no trouble. I am having trouble posting to the announce list getting a 504 error so perhaps there is some reason connected to that. Though it does seem strange that some get the issue from the list while others don't. Ron - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding correct in that we, as members of this list, automatically get it in our inboxes? If so, something's screwy somewhere, because, as I say, I haven't received it. If members don't get a copy, where's the best source to download it rather than just viewing it online? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
I thought that you could just download it fulle package .NET Framework 3.5 SP 1 and then installed both So .NET Framework 3.5 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP 1 fulle package: http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/0/e/20e90413-712f-438c-988e-fdaa79a8ac3d/dotnetfx35.exe - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? Install .Net Framework 3.5 first before service pack 1. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallswort...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: "Hayri Tulumcu" To: Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? can i install. NET Framework V 3.5 Service Pack 1 or should i install. NET Framework 3.5 V first? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
I haven't got it either! - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding correct in that we, as members of this list, automatically get it in our inboxes? If so, something's screwy somewhere, because, as I say, I haven't received it. If members don't get a copy, where's the best source to download it rather than just viewing it online? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
Install .Net Framework 3.5 first before service pack 1. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallswort...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: "Hayri Tulumcu" To: Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? can i install. NET Framework V 3.5 Service Pack 1 or should i install. NET Framework 3.5 V first? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
Hi Charles That's odd and something that I don't understand. The issue arrived here with no trouble. I am having trouble posting to the announce list getting a 504 error so perhaps there is some reason connected to that. Though it does seem strange that some get the issue from the list while others don't. Ron - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding correct in that we, as members of this list, automatically get it in our inboxes? If so, something's screwy somewhere, because, as I say, I haven't received it. If members don't get a copy, where's the best source to download it rather than just viewing it online? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site > Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. > > HTH > Ron > > - Original Message - > From: "william lomas" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site > > > where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it > any news from draconis in it yet? > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
I haven't gotten it, either. Is my understanding correct in that we, as members of this list, automatically get it in our inboxes? If so, something's screwy somewhere, because, as I say, I haven't received it. If members don't get a copy, where's the best source to download it rather than just viewing it online? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business
Hayri, If you're referring to the Wild West level, which I believe is level 6, I don't believe you can access that level at the moment. I read somewhere recently that there is a bug which makes that level inaccessible. If you're asking how to beat the Aztec temple, that's a different story. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayri Tulumcu Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:44 AM To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business yes - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business > By completing level 5? > > --- > If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. > - Original Message - > From: "Hayri Tulumcu" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:28 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] monkey Business > > >> How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] fallthrough darkwater cave stuck?
Hi. well I've got into darkwater cave, or at least into the dome. there seems to be something odd going on though. i can walk through several passages, one of which has a huge door with a symbol on it which lead to a dead end, the symbol on the door just seems to be a sign of where the dead end is. I can't unlock the door, in fact the game doesn't even seem to recognize that there is a door there at all. Once, when walking through one passage near the door I happened to see a stairway down, but like an idiot I'd not bought my lamp so couldn't head down there. I'm not sure though what the heck triggered this to appear, or whether indeed it just turned up at random. does anyone have any idea how I can get into the cave? I'd really like that wherering. Any help would be much appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] .NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1?
can i install. NET Framework V 3.5 Service Pack 1 or should i install. NET Framework 3.5 V first? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Railracer
Hello. Was wondering when I go to download railracer the latest version it won't let me do it says the page can't be found, is that part of the site down? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business
yes - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business By completing level 5? --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: "Hayri Tulumcu" To: Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] monkey Business How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Top speed or Top Secret?
Could you compress and upload to sendspace? On 1/11/09, shaun everiss wrote: > yeah I have > Its all uncompressed about itself but I have it. > At 10:33 a.m. 12/01/2009, you wrote: >>Does Anyone still have my huge zip file of cars and tracks? The >>computer I had them on went down again, and I don't think I got them >>off of it first. >> >>Signed: >>Dakotah Rickard >> >>On 1/11/09, important wrote: >>> Hello, I was wondering if anyone has a track and car bank for Top Speed; >>> 2, >>> I love that game and at one time I had them all, I know there are TS >>> players >>> on the list who may have the tracks and cars, if so, could you let me >>> know? >>> I would love to get my fingers working again on this game.. Thanks a >>> million >>> in advance... >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business
By completing level 5? --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: "Hayri Tulumcu" To: Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] monkey Business How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question aboout video game developers
Well, while I agree that there are many games which would only require slight tweeking to make them accessible, there are many more which would require an overhaul of the entire game structure. Consider the popular game, The Sims. If one wanted to make that accessible, first of all, they would have to find a way to label anything and everything in the game somehow. There would have to be an enormous amount of keystrokes, which I've found most people don't like, and you'd have to slow down the game clock to get everyone to be able to do what they need to do. Many of the developers of the world aren't big developers, percentage-wise, but almost every game you see on store shelves was released by a company. If you're part of a company, it doesn't matter whether you have no blind family members or come home to a completely blind wife, kids, dog, and toaster oven. You do what the companyies' higher-ups say. If the higher-ups have blind family members, they know that it sucks that there aren't many games for the blind, but they have a company to run. Let's face it. We are a minority. Not only are we a minority, we're a hard minority to grasp, because it's not based on ethnicity or creed or anything like that. Some people, from every population, are simply blind. So, if you take the fact that making some mainstream games accessible is a project that would either be impossible or would take the fun out of the games, combined with the industrially required indifference of big companies, we either need to get all the developers of accessible games together into one company that has loads of talent working for it, or we need to rely on individual developers to do the best they can. I'm not saying that it's impossible for big companies to eventually consider us when making games, but it's going to be a while, and there are some games that, I believe, we are going to have to accept that we just can't play. It kind of sucks, but there it is. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 1/12/09, The Kolesar Brothers wrote: > Now this is true. Why must everything have to be special? Now let's blind > fold the 99 percent who don't have a blind family member, a blind friend or > doesn't work with a blind person. With phisical force feedback, I wished > that the wei system was blind friendly. I even offered to beta test their > system for them and give feedback from a blind consumer. But their responce > was don't call us we'll call you. So that's my two cents on this thread. > Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! > > kolesar16...@roadrunner.com > - Original Message - > From: "jason" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 3:48 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] question aboout video game developers > > > I have a question why is it so hard for a developer to make their games > accessible for disabilities. it's just to hard to go out of their way to > do this. , or we just a minority? I mean video games have been out for > years now, and you would think they would get the hint? wow it's amazing > what people think sometimes. I guess it has to happen to them, meaning to > have one of their family members have a disability in order to get > something accomplished for us. > > > Sincerely, > Jason known as Blind Fury > windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com > skype contact kb3icc > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
nope dont think so On 12 Jan 2009, at 14:50, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
Hi William it came out over the weekend. You should have it by now. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
where is the latest issue anyways lol haven't seen it any news from draconis in it yet? On 12 Jan 2009, at 14:34, Kelly Sapergia wrote: Hi Dark, I'm aware of this issue and should be getting issues 51 through 54 at some point. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Need to relax and unwind? Listen to "Northern Lights", Thursdays from 01:00 to 03:00 GMT (Wednesdays in North America) on ACB (American Council of the Blind) Radio Interactive at http://interactive.acbradio.org Visit the show's website at http://nl.ksapergia.net If you need jingles, voiceovers and music for your project at an affordable price, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site
Hi Dark, I'm aware of this issue and should be getting issues 51 through 54 at some point. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Need to relax and unwind? Listen to "Northern Lights", Thursdays from 01:00 to 03:00 GMT (Wednesdays in North America) on ACB (American Council of the Blind) Radio Interactive at http://interactive.acbradio.org Visit the show's website at http://nl.ksapergia.net If you need jingles, voiceovers and music for your project at an affordable price, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question aboout video game developers
Now this is true. Why must everything have to be special? Now let's blind fold the 99 percent who don't have a blind family member, a blind friend or doesn't work with a blind person. With phisical force feedback, I wished that the wei system was blind friendly. I even offered to beta test their system for them and give feedback from a blind consumer. But their responce was don't call us we'll call you. So that's my two cents on this thread. Matt & Ron Kolesar & there great Dogs! kolesar16...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: "jason" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question aboout video game developers I have a question why is it so hard for a developer to make their games accessible for disabilities. it's just to hard to go out of their way to do this. , or we just a minority? I mean video games have been out for years now, and you would think they would get the hint? wow it's amazing what people think sometimes. I guess it has to happen to them, meaning to have one of their family members have a disability in order to get something accomplished for us. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com skype contact kb3icc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business
So far you don't. Level six seems to be missing and Draconis doesn't seem able to figure out why. - Original Message - From: "Hayri Tulumcu" To: Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] monkey Business How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business
when I have completed level 5 then skips game to level 7 - Original Message - From: "Willem" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business Complete level 5? Sorry, I couldn't resist. Be more speciffic. What is your problem? Hayri Tulumcu wrote: How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monkey Business
Complete level 5? Sorry, I couldn't resist. Be more speciffic. What is your problem? Hayri Tulumcu wrote: How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] monkey Business
How do I get to level 6 of monkey business? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] question aboout video game developers
I have a question why is it so hard for a developer to make their games accessible for disabilities. it's just to hard to go out of their way to do this. , or we just a minority? I mean video games have been out for years now, and you would think they would get the hint? wow it's amazing what people think sometimes. I guess it has to happen to them, meaning to have one of their family members have a disability in order to get something accomplished for us. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com skype contact kb3icc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] labeling graphics of the game
It's not that kind of graphics. These are actual, 2d or 3d pictures. Images, if you will. And not very easy for standard OCR technology to pick up, since you can't very well OCR a person or a building. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of jason Sent: January 12, 2009 3:43 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] labeling graphics of the game I guess it's impossible to label the graphics or have the developers of World of Warcraft do that. It is just a suggestion. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com skype contact kb3icc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] labeling graphics of the game
I guess it's impossible to label the graphics or have the developers of World of Warcraft do that. It is just a suggestion. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com skype contact kb3icc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] warcraft
Yes I second this question. it's sound like a cool fantacy game, and my cousins in California play it and they even belong to a guild. I wish it was accessible for the blind. I would like to participate inthe game of World of Warcraft sometime. some time. Sincerely, Jason known as Blind Fury windowslive contact kb3...@msn.com skype contact kb3icc - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] warcraft hi i take it world of warcraft is not accessible for the blind on any platform? has anyone appproached the devs about this? it sounds perfect for us as it is an RPG with other features including music and sound --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
