Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
Exactly. Forget about those complainers, your effort is appreciated. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels Well said. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels I agree completely with the right honourable gentlemans statement. Tom. Do what you want, and be proud of it. If you get reasonable feedback from the community for reasonable changes, make them happen if you wish. no one is forcing you to do anything at all. And as was said, you can't please everyone. Just be pleased yourself that you've done a great job - all the blood sweat and tears you've put into this should count for something on your part. Well done, and keep going with it! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] FW: [The Teacher List] Flash Games - source code
Hi all I got this from another mailing list I belong to. Since the source code of these games are available, the possibility is there for someone to develop accessible remakes. -Original Message- From: theteacherlist-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:theteacherlist-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Pete MacKay Sent: 21 January 2011 06:44 PM To: theteacherl...@freelists.org Subject: [The Teacher List] Flash Games - source code My friend, Jocelyn, used that Who Wants to be A Mathionaire game I wrote about before Christmas. In her research, she discovered that the author has not only other games available such as Hangman and Trigonometry; but has also made available the Flash source files. What a fantastic way to reverse-engineer and learn about how such games can be made! -- The URL: http://www.mathsisfun.com/includes/source-code.html - -- This is the_teacher_list mailing list, managed by FreeLists.org. You can reply to this email to reach Pete directly. More Info (archives, subscription) - http://www.theteacherlist.ca http://www.twitter.com/theteacherlist -The Teacher List on Twitter http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Teacher-List/151149594588 - The Teacher List Fan Page http://www.cafepress.com/TTLstore - The Teacher List Gear --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] giftanum and space colony cleaner
Hi all, If you couldn't follow the link for giftanum, go to the x-sight-interactive.net page and search on the games page (take a closer look at the websight because it's changed over Christmas 2010) there's giftanum along with danger city, selfdestruct and the savage gamut. I would also want space colony cleaner, and no it's not freeware someone said you need a key. So anyone can email me at mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com no spaces or dashes all one word. Email me a link for the original game itself, and if you have one a patch to register the game. best regards, Jack --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] unable to play the horse racing game from light tech interactive
Hi all I sent an e-mail to supp...@lighttechinteractive.com on the fifth of January but I haven't got a response yet. I downloaded the horse racing game that same day. I am unable to launch the horse racing game. I made sure I met all the requirements.\ Here is the specs of my laptop: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 2 Computer: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz 591 MHz, 496 MB of RAM I have plenty of hard disk space left. I have sappi5 on my pc as I am able to play other games that makes use of sappi such as jim kitchens' games. I have the latest direct x. If I click on the icon on the desktop for the horse racing game, a screen comes up with only one line of text: the horse racing game! The mouse pointer changed to an hourglass. this window was open for a couple of minutes, after which it closed and my desktop with all the icons is displayed and the mouse pointer changed to app start. NO error message popped up when I clicked on the icon for the game. I filled in all required fields in the configuration program. I typed my first name, press tab, I typed my last name, pressed tab and I selected sappi and I pressed the save button. I was told: congrachulations, your data was successfully saved. Then I unloaded jaws and I clicked on the icon to play the horse racing game. I waited a couple of minutes but nothing happened so I loaded jaws. and then I saw this screen mentioned above. So I rebooted my pc, and I went into the configuration program again. I noticed that all the info I filled in was wiped out. My first and last name was wiped out and no speech method is selected although I have selected a speech method when I went to the configuration program the first time. So I again filled in my first and last name and this time I selected jaws as speech and I clicked the save button and it said: congrachulations, your data was successfully saved. But still I am unable to launch the game. I went to the configuration program a third time, and again all info was wiped out. Your help is much appreciated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to play the horse racing game from light techinteractive
Hi try reinstalling the game this might help. it works fine on my system I'm running xp home edition sp 3 - Original Message - From: NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:57 AM Subject: [Audyssey] unable to play the horse racing game from light techinteractive Hi all I sent an e-mail to supp...@lighttechinteractive.com on the fifth of January but I haven't got a response yet. I downloaded the horse racing game that same day. I am unable to launch the horse racing game. I made sure I met all the requirements.\ Here is the specs of my laptop: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 2 Computer: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz 591 MHz, 496 MB of RAM I have plenty of hard disk space left. I have sappi5 on my pc as I am able to play other games that makes use of sappi such as jim kitchens' games. I have the latest direct x. If I click on the icon on the desktop for the horse racing game, a screen comes up with only one line of text: the horse racing game! The mouse pointer changed to an hourglass. this window was open for a couple of minutes, after which it closed and my desktop with all the icons is displayed and the mouse pointer changed to app start. NO error message popped up when I clicked on the icon for the game. I filled in all required fields in the configuration program. I typed my first name, press tab, I typed my last name, pressed tab and I selected sappi and I pressed the save button. I was told: congrachulations, your data was successfully saved. Then I unloaded jaws and I clicked on the icon to play the horse racing game. I waited a couple of minutes but nothing happened so I loaded jaws. and then I saw this screen mentioned above. So I rebooted my pc, and I went into the configuration program again. I noticed that all the info I filled in was wiped out. My first and last name was wiped out and no speech method is selected although I have selected a speech method when I went to the configuration program the first time. So I again filled in my first and last name and this time I selected jaws as speech and I clicked the save button and it said: congrachulations, your data was successfully saved. But still I am unable to launch the game. I went to the configuration program a third time, and again all info was wiped out. Your help is much appreciated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] giftanum and space colony cleaner
As far as I knew, that gift game link doesn't work. Has that changed? Best regards. Jess - Original Message - From: Jack F mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:29 AM Subject: [Audyssey] giftanum and space colony cleaner Hi all, If you couldn't follow the link for giftanum, go to the x-sight-interactive.net page and search on the games page (take a closer look at the websight because it's changed over Christmas 2010) there's giftanum along with danger city, selfdestruct and the savage gamut. I would also want space colony cleaner, and no it's not freeware someone said you need a key. So anyone can email me at mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com no spaces or dashes all one word. Email me a link for the original game itself, and if you have one a patch to register the game. best regards, Jack --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to play the horse racing game from light techinteractive
I have the saym problem. I think the gae is a bug. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: [Audyssey] unable to play the horse racing game from light techinteractive Hi all I sent an e-mail to supp...@lighttechinteractive.com on the fifth of January but I haven't got a response yet. I downloaded the horse racing game that same day. I am unable to launch the horse racing game. I made sure I met all the requirements.\ Here is the specs of my laptop: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 2 Computer: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz 591 MHz, 496 MB of RAM I have plenty of hard disk space left. I have sappi5 on my pc as I am able to play other games that makes use of sappi such as jim kitchens' games. I have the latest direct x. If I click on the icon on the desktop for the horse racing game, a screen comes up with only one line of text: the horse racing game! The mouse pointer changed to an hourglass. this window was open for a couple of minutes, after which it closed and my desktop with all the icons is displayed and the mouse pointer changed to app start. NO error message popped up when I clicked on the icon for the game. I filled in all required fields in the configuration program. I typed my first name, press tab, I typed my last name, pressed tab and I selected sappi and I pressed the save button. I was told: congrachulations, your data was successfully saved. Then I unloaded jaws and I clicked on the icon to play the horse racing game. I waited a couple of minutes but nothing happened so I loaded jaws. and then I saw this screen mentioned above. So I rebooted my pc, and I went into the configuration program again. I noticed that all the info I filled in was wiped out. My first and last name was wiped out and no speech method is selected although I have selected a speech method when I went to the configuration program the first time. So I again filled in my first and last name and this time I selected jaws as speech and I clicked the save button and it said: congrachulations, your data was successfully saved. But still I am unable to launch the game. I went to the configuration program a third time, and again all info was wiped out. Your help is much appreciated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to play the horse racing game from lighttechinteractive
But I am running xp pro sp3 sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Greg Steel greegste...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] unable to play the horse racing game from lighttechinteractive Hi try reinstalling the game this might help. it works fine on my system I'm running xp home edition sp 3 - Original Message - From: NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:57 AM Subject: [Audyssey] unable to play the horse racing game from light techinteractive Hi all I sent an e-mail to supp...@lighttechinteractive.com on the fifth of January but I haven't got a response yet. I downloaded the horse racing game that same day. I am unable to launch the horse racing game. I made sure I met all the requirements.\ Here is the specs of my laptop: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 2 Computer: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz 591 MHz, 496 MB of RAM I have plenty of hard disk space left. I have sappi5 on my pc as I am able to play other games that makes use of sappi such as jim kitchens' games. I have the latest direct x. If I click on the icon on the desktop for the horse racing game, a screen comes up with only one line of text: the horse racing game! The mouse pointer changed to an hourglass. this window was open for a couple of minutes, after which it closed and my desktop with all the icons is displayed and the mouse pointer changed to app start. NO error message popped up when I clicked on the icon for the game. I filled in all required fields in the configuration program. I typed my first name, press tab, I typed my last name, pressed tab and I selected sappi and I pressed the save button. I was told: congrachulations, your data was successfully saved. Then I unloaded jaws and I clicked on the icon to play the horse racing game. I waited a couple of minutes but nothing happened so I loaded jaws. and then I saw this screen mentioned above. So I rebooted my pc, and I went into the configuration program again. I noticed that all the info I filled in was wiped out. My first and last name was wiped out and no speech method is selected although I have selected a speech method when I went to the configuration program the first time. So I again filled in my first and last name and this time I selected jaws as speech and I clicked the save button and it said: congrachulations, your data was successfully saved. But still I am unable to launch the game. I went to the configuration program a third time, and again all info was wiped out. Your help is much appreciated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] giftanum link
i've got no idea - its rubbish anyway in my opinion.l.. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: 22 January 2011 05:30 To: Ken the Crazy; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] giftanum link I havn't heard about it either, I wouldn't mind that game to, did its site go away or something. At 05:44 p.m. 22/01/2011, you wrote: Space colony cleaner? I haven't heard that mentioned in a while! What's up with it--is it freeware, since you're asking for a patch? Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Jack F mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] giftanum link Hi all, here's the download link for giftanum. Download I also want space colony cleaner, email me a link along with a patch. best regards, Jack --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] New Heli Update
Okay, I've updated Heli again. It can be found at the same link as before. First, a major bug fix: the function that calculates the angle between two vectors works now, so when you're facing the TV or your opponent, your aim is true and you hit them. (Darn it, I knew I'd end up having to start learning trig sooner or later!) Added in a ceiling fan. Get too close to those whirling blades and they'll knock your chopper for a loop. Turn it off by hitting the lightswitch with your copter, then try to smash the bulb in the center of the fixture. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project
Lol...it's keyisfull not keywasfull Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:18 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I'd like to do some sfx and maybe other things, sertainly test the game. I think you really should shove this in the bgt thing if you want. ask keywasfull if you can get on his bgt folder then ask him for permision to use or look at his chopper code, its a bit like copter man chopper chace or whatever the game is called, but you should get an idea how to do things that way. just add sm.ever...@gmail.com to the dropbox. I may help with sfx, so we will see what happens. At 09:50 a.m. 21/01/2011, you wrote: Well, there has been much talk in the past about a game building project that many people can participate in. Well, I've begun one. Now, here's where the rubber meets the road. Here is where we'll see if gamers are all talk about this subject or if they add their own ideas. The game So far, here is the game, designed in VB6. Yes, it's archaic or whatever, but it's what I know. Wanna translate it? Go ahead. Anyway, the basic idea is that you and a friend just got a couple of those new battle copters, you know, the ones you fly around the house? Well, you're in a living room that's about ten feet high, and 20 by 20. You fly your chopper around the room, trying to shoot down your friend before he gets you. The Trim: Now, you're not the only one that flies this helicopter, because you have a young brother/sister/cousin that plays with it, so every time you start the game you'll need to adjust the trim to 0. To adjust it, use the home and end keys. As you adjust it, you'll hear the clicking of a knob that seems to move around your head. When it gets to 0, the sound of the knob turning will change and be directly in front of you. To fly, hold down the page up key to gain altitude. Since you're flying a helicopter, the faster the rotors turn, the higher it goes. As you increase in height, your velocity in that direction also increases. If you get going too fast you'll smash against the ceiling, and your chopper will fall. You get about ten smashes before it's unusable. Also, page down will slow the rotors, making the chopper descend. You can show off to your friend by landing the chopper on your head, but that takes a lot of work and a little luck. Use left and right arrows to turn, and up and down arrows to fly forward and backward. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
Hi Shaun, True. BGT and G3D will definitely open a lot of doors for new game developers etc, but there still will be plenty of room for qualified game programmers. One of the big reasons is Mac OS is slowly but surely becoming more popular with VI computer users. Engines like BGT currently has no support for Mac OS and Linux at this time, and the few developers like Draconis and USA Games will most likely get there before anyone else does just because we are looking at switching to Mac OS as our platform of choice. In the case of Draconis Josh and Cara both use Mac OS, and I'm undecided if I want to invest in a MacBook next time round or get another IBM compatible PC with Linux OS on it. All the same it is an emerging market that so far has not been very well explored by game developers. The developers who depend on BGT or Visual Basic will never be able to reach those other markets just because the technology they use doesn't support it. Those who know Python, Java, or C++ will be able to tap those markets if they have a mind too. Cheers! On 1/22/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: yeah and only gona get worse. Now with bgt almost anyone that has a mind to can program without any real fuss. Then with things like the g3d engine people can program without having to spend months on writing loads of things. Game creation engines and kits are the way of the future and we have at least 2 of them going in the works one out allready and rocking. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
Hi Thomas, Just to enter in this discussion a little. I am actually considering buying a Mac when I have enough money saved up. I'm not very interested in Linux, so I believe that when I do eventually begin the work of porting BGT to another platform it'll be on Mac to start with. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heli Hi Shaun, True. BGT and G3D will definitely open a lot of doors for new game developers etc, but there still will be plenty of room for qualified game programmers. One of the big reasons is Mac OS is slowly but surely becoming more popular with VI computer users. Engines like BGT currently has no support for Mac OS and Linux at this time, and the few developers like Draconis and USA Games will most likely get there before anyone else does just because we are looking at switching to Mac OS as our platform of choice. In the case of Draconis Josh and Cara both use Mac OS, and I'm undecided if I want to invest in a MacBook next time round or get another IBM compatible PC with Linux OS on it. All the same it is an emerging market that so far has not been very well explored by game developers. The developers who depend on BGT or Visual Basic will never be able to reach those other markets just because the technology they use doesn't support it. Those who know Python, Java, or C++ will be able to tap those markets if they have a mind too. Cheers! On 1/22/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: yeah and only gona get worse. Now with bgt almost anyone that has a mind to can program without any real fuss. Then with things like the g3d engine people can program without having to spend months on writing loads of things. Game creation engines and kits are the way of the future and we have at least 2 of them going in the works one out allready and rocking. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Game Engines was Heli
Hi Philip, That is very good to know. As I mentioned in my earlier message to the list I'm currently looking at replacing one of my computers with a Mac. Recently my old desktop, we used as a family computer, gave up the ghost over the Christmas holidays. Now, my wife and I are in the process of discussing replacing it. If we do decide to replace it with a Mac I'll be interested in porting my current projects, including the Genesis 3D Engine, to Mac OS. If you happen to release a copy of BGT for Mac before I get there I'd probably consider buying a license for the port. However, that said the APIs for Linux and the APIs for Mac OS are not that different. For example, I have a rough idea of how I'm going to create the Mac OS and Linux version of the Genesis Engine. I'll begin with writing a middleware library similar to Streemway that wraps OpenAL and loads wav, ogg, and other open source file types and mixes them with OpenAL. For things like threading, serialization, etc I'll use the cross-platform boost library. Finally, input, networking, and the window manager will be handled by SDL 1.2. I believe that this would provide an excellent basis for any game engine targeting the Mac or Linux operating systems. Although, there is an alternative way of handling this. SFML already has a decent networking API, supports OpenAL via sfml-audio, input handling is fine, threading works pretty good on Linux, and the only complaint I have is the window manager. It works fine on Linux, I hear it works fine on Mac, but crashes the OS on Windows. So SFML sounds like the best solution for a Mac specific engine, but I wouldn't consider SFML for a Windows engine based on its buggy window manager. Still I agree with you that at this point Mac is a developers second choice in terms of operating system to support. While Linux is fine as an operating system most of the Linux users I know left Linux in favor of the Mac. Plus because Mac OS is a commercial operating system the majority of the people using it are willing to pay money for commercial software. All too many Linux users I know are hung up on the free and open source view and absolutely refuse to pay for commercial software in any way, shape, or form. They expect software for Linux to remain free, open source, and without commercial licensing. That is unrealistic considering the fact I have to license music, sounds, and so on that costs me hundreds of dollars per game. The Marxist view that all software should be free, shared, community property is fine to a certain point, but doesn't work if we are dealing with capitalist companies out to make a buck for everything. Therefore since we live in a capitalist society I have to run my software company that way to make a buck myself to continue producing said products. In short, I agree with you. Mac is probably my next choice as well. It has nothing to do with weather I like Linux or not. I've just concluded the money isn't really in it. Between the fact there are less users their and the fact too many are hung up on Marxist idiology it will be very hard to market a commercial product there. If I can produce Linux versions inexpensively and make a few extra on it fine, but Mac and Windows seam to me to be the most financially viable markets long term. HTH On 1/22/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Just to enter in this discussion a little. I am actually considering buying a Mac when I have enough money saved up. I'm not very interested in Linux, so I believe that when I do eventually begin the work of porting BGT to another platform it'll be on Mac to start with. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
well tom on that note python is another popular language. then there is the die hard c and c++ programmers like yourself. then the vb dotnet and other dotnet languages. for now the old legacy vb6 and others exist but not for much longer I think. there are also games with autoit, and also games in flash that seem to exist. At 02:49 p.m. 23/01/2011, you wrote: Hi Shaun, True. BGT and G3D will definitely open a lot of doors for new game developers etc, but there still will be plenty of room for qualified game programmers. One of the big reasons is Mac OS is slowly but surely becoming more popular with VI computer users. Engines like BGT currently has no support for Mac OS and Linux at this time, and the few developers like Draconis and USA Games will most likely get there before anyone else does just because we are looking at switching to Mac OS as our platform of choice. In the case of Draconis Josh and Cara both use Mac OS, and I'm undecided if I want to invest in a MacBook next time round or get another IBM compatible PC with Linux OS on it. All the same it is an emerging market that so far has not been very well explored by game developers. The developers who depend on BGT or Visual Basic will never be able to reach those other markets just because the technology they use doesn't support it. Those who know Python, Java, or C++ will be able to tap those markets if they have a mind too. Cheers! On 1/22/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: yeah and only gona get worse. Now with bgt almost anyone that has a mind to can program without any real fuss. Then with things like the g3d engine people can program without having to spend months on writing loads of things. Game creation engines and kits are the way of the future and we have at least 2 of them going in the works one out allready and rocking. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Games from APH?
Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project
Can I have the link to this game? I lost the first Email. -- Original Message -- From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:15:22 -0600 Lol...it's keyisfull not keywasfull Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:18 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I'd like to do some sfx and maybe other things, sertainly test the game. I think you really should shove this in the bgt thing if you want. ask keywasfull if you can get on his bgt folder then ask him for permision to use or look at his chopper code, its a bit like copter man chopper chace or whatever the game is called, but you should get an idea how to do things that way. just add sm.ever...@gmail.com to the dropbox. I may help with sfx, so we will see what happens. At 09:50 a.m. 21/01/2011, you wrote: Well, there has been much talk in the past about a game building project that many people can participate in. Well, I've begun one. Now, here's where the rubber meets the road. Here is where we'll see if gamers are all talk about this subject or if they add their own ideas. The game So far, here is the game, designed in VB6. Yes, it's archaic or whatever, but it's what I know. Wanna translate it? Go ahead. Anyway, the basic idea is that you and a friend just got a couple of those new battle copters, you know, the ones you fly around the house? Well, you're in a living room that's about ten feet high, and 20 by 20. You fly your chopper around the room, trying to shoot down your friend before he gets you. The Trim: Now, you're not the only one that flies this helicopter, because you have a young brother/sister/cousin that plays with it, so every time you start the game you'll need to adjust the trim to 0. To adjust it, use the home and end keys. As you adjust it, you'll hear the clicking of a knob that seems to move around your head. When it gets to 0, the sound of the knob turning will change and be directly in front of you. To fly, hold down the page up key to gain altitude. Since you're flying a helicopter, the faster the rotors turn, the higher it goes. As you increase in height, your velocity in that direction also increases. If you get going too fast you'll smash against the ceiling, and your chopper will fall. You get about ten smashes before it's unusable. Also, page down will slow the rotors, making the chopper descend. You can show off to your friend by landing the chopper on your head, but that takes a lot of work and a little luck. Use left and right arrows to turn, and up and down arrows to fly forward and backward. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b9b9fd8eecddc72cst01vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Hi Ryan, In my personal opinion the games aren't worth the price. It has always seamed to me the developer who created the APH games wasn't aware there are plenty of competing accessible games out there on the market. Besides the high price they are not that great to begin with. To me Shades of Doom or something else is far better games and are worth the price to license. HTH On 1/22/11, Ryan Conroy staindadd...@juno.com wrote: Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project
Sure. It's http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/heli.zip Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Ryan Conroy staindadd...@juno.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project Can I have the link to this game? I lost the first Email. -- Original Message -- From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:15:22 -0600 Lol...it's keyisfull not keywasfull Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:18 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I'd like to do some sfx and maybe other things, sertainly test the game. I think you really should shove this in the bgt thing if you want. ask keywasfull if you can get on his bgt folder then ask him for permision to use or look at his chopper code, its a bit like copter man chopper chace or whatever the game is called, but you should get an idea how to do things that way. just add sm.ever...@gmail.com to the dropbox. I may help with sfx, so we will see what happens. At 09:50 a.m. 21/01/2011, you wrote: Well, there has been much talk in the past about a game building project that many people can participate in. Well, I've begun one. Now, here's where the rubber meets the road. Here is where we'll see if gamers are all talk about this subject or if they add their own ideas. The game So far, here is the game, designed in VB6. Yes, it's archaic or whatever, but it's what I know. Wanna translate it? Go ahead. Anyway, the basic idea is that you and a friend just got a couple of those new battle copters, you know, the ones you fly around the house? Well, you're in a living room that's about ten feet high, and 20 by 20. You fly your chopper around the room, trying to shoot down your friend before he gets you. The Trim: Now, you're not the only one that flies this helicopter, because you have a young brother/sister/cousin that plays with it, so every time you start the game you'll need to adjust the trim to 0. To adjust it, use the home and end keys. As you adjust it, you'll hear the clicking of a knob that seems to move around your head. When it gets to 0, the sound of the knob turning will change and be directly in front of you. To fly, hold down the page up key to gain altitude. Since you're flying a helicopter, the faster the rotors turn, the higher it goes. As you increase in height, your velocity in that direction also increases. If you get going too fast you'll smash against the ceiling, and your chopper will fall. You get about ten smashes before it's unusable. Also, page down will slow the rotors, making the chopper descend. You can show off to your friend by landing the chopper on your head, but that takes a lot of work and a little luck. Use left and right arrows to turn, and up and down arrows to fly forward and backward. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b9b9fd8eecddc72cst01vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
I wouldn't touch them. I played termite torpedo once. Its probably good if you are the average poor handicapt blind retard maybe even a child that has even less inteligence than a deranged retard and is generally bad and likes to format his drive or run things like lets see what this command does kind of thing. But for any real computer user, ie one that can actually know what the internet is, well. Long and short is These are worse than bavisoft and they well are not for us. Maybe some narrow minded sole made these because thats what the retarded blind are worth. I don't want to be associated with the blind retards association and I don't play these though I did find and try these ages ago. To say, bd, is an understatement. If you want something like this, then you should play the kitchensinc games. Yeah, basic, and quite old school but at least they emulate the physical boards and actually are enjoyable. At 03:56 p.m. 23/01/2011, you wrote: Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Also, after trying on three different machines, I've never! got the damn things to work, that's one reason why armadillo army has no written description in the database, though I'm tempted to just put something together from the instructions, bad as that sounds (usually I always try to play a game before describing it). Eitherway, apparently they wrote ridiculously symple audio games, slapped a price on them, and called them a revolutionary new product considdering they were the first audio games ever created, despite the fact that a bit of googling would've shown them different. Oh, and the method they apparently use for showing audio directions is just insane! According to someone who described the games on audiogames.net, instead of hereing something in sterrio pan, you here a voice pout of center speakers saying right right right or left left left depending upon where the enemy or object is, which is just ridiculous! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Hi. Actually, I like termite torpedo. It actually takes some intelligence and strategy to play that game. And the voiceovers for it are fantastic. I'd venture to say that it has the best recorded voiceover of any game I have ever played, audio or not. On 1/23/2011 12:48 AM, shaun everiss wrote: I wouldn't touch them. I played termite torpedo once. Its probably good if you are the average poor handicapt blind retard maybe even a child that has even less inteligence than a deranged retard and is generally bad and likes to format his drive or run things like lets see what this command does kind of thing. But for any real computer user, ie one that can actually know what the internet is, well. Long and short is These are worse than bavisoft and they well are not for us. Maybe some narrow minded sole made these because thats what the retarded blind are worth. I don't want to be associated with the blind retards association and I don't play these though I did find and try these ages ago. To say, bd, is an understatement. If you want something like this, then you should play the kitchensinc games. Yeah, basic, and quite old school but at least they emulate the physical boards and actually are enjoyable. At 03:56 p.m. 23/01/2011, you wrote: Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
