Re: [Audyssey] palacepunchup

[burakyuksek]

I was tried connecting a servr a thousands of times, but it is never, never, 
never never never connectted.

sevgiler saygilar
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] palacepunchup



Anyone up for a game of palace punch-up?

If so I'll open up a server.
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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

[dark]

Hi Tom.

these shenanigans with microsoft promising one api and replacing it with 
another, and an inaccessible one at that sound fairly typical unfortunately.


Personally though as a player, there are so many direct x games out there it 
isn't funny, I'll probably need to have direct x on my system for a good 
while,  heck look at Jim and vb.


This doesn't just apply to audio games though at all. Both of my favourite 
freeware graphical Turrican projects are direct x applications.


My personal thought is, so long as a developer will provide me with either 
the dependencies themselves or a place I can get them, i really don't mind 
downloading other stuff, and in fact I suspect that in three or five years 
or so when this desktop goes caputski and I'm forced to switch to a windows 
7 machine I'll be needing direct x anyway precisely for that reason.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock



Hi Dark,

Well, that's true to a point. The fact of the matter is most software
for Windows now days is being developed around the new Microsoft .Net
technologies so .Net is an essential dependency for a lot of new
software anyway. That's why Vista ships with .Net Framework 3.0 and
Windows 7 now ships with .Net 4.0 out of the box. It is now a
preinstalled core component of the operating system. So that in and of
itself doesn't bother me. In say three to five years most of the
Windows XP systems will be most likely beginning to be
updated./replaced by newer, faster, and better 64bit systems running
Windows 7 with at least .Net 4.0. So in the long term sticking with
.Net is on a developers side as the extra dependencies that were such
a pain three or four years ago are going to no longer be an issue
since Microsoft has already made them core components for every
Windows Vista and Windows 7 system built over the last three years or
so.


The real big issue I have with the current STFC and Montezuma's
Revenge is the DirectX components I used. Early in 2004 as part of
their DirectX 9 marketing campaign Microsoft unvailed there Managed
DirectX components all designed for .Net 1.1. I like a number of
independant software developers using C# .Net and Visual Basic .Net
migrated quickly to the new API. In 20006 Microsoft was hinting at
Managed DirectX 2.0 to ship with .Net Framework 2.0. It never
appeared. Instead a few days after Windows Vista was released
Microsoft pulled a double wammy on the game developers. They announced
that as of August 2008 Managed DirectX was going to be deprecated and
that there were beginning an all new API called the XNA Framework that
was suppose to work hand in hand with the cross-platform API they were
developing for the XBox 360. Well, when XNA 1.0 hit the scene I
downloaded it expecting to switch games like Monte over to it right
away only to discover it wasn't accessible to a blind developer. You
have to use a program called XAct to create pack files containing
soundbanks which then are loaded into XAudio and played based on the
settings stored in the Soundbank. So if you couldn't see to check the
boxes to loop sounds, to enable 3d positioning, etc you were pretty
much screwed. Which I royally was. Microsoft had dropped the
technology I was using and gave me one that was far less accessible
and I was stuck. At that time SlimDX didn't exist and I wasn't about
to fork over hundreds of dollars to Firelight for FMOD Ex. I might
have been satisfied with Managed DirectX as is, but it turned out it
has a few nasty bugs that Microsoft hadn't fixed and never were going
to fix. So you see in that way my games like STFC and Montezuma's
Revenge were no better off than those being written in VB 6 all
because Microsoft had pulled the rug out from under me by promising
one API and delivering a different one I couldn't use. That's what
prompted my switch to C++.


Of course, things with .Net game development is a bit different now.
Microsoft's idea to cancel Managed DirectX and replace it with XNA
didn't go over with everyone. I can say there were a number of people
on the DirectX mailing list, most of them mainstream companies, who
were up in arms about the surprise  API change. All of us were
expecting the release ofMDX 2.0 and Microsoft happily announces XNA
1.0 which meant everybody had to rewrite substantial amount of code to
use it. People were pretty steamed over it. Out of that outrage began
an open source project called SlimDX. It is essentially Managed
DirectX under a new name and written by a core group of open source
developers who wanted to maintain a .Net implamentation of DirectX
that supported DirectSound, DirectMusic, DirectPlay, DirectInput, etc.
In other words everything Microsoft was trashing like yesterdays
garbage in favor of the XNA libraries.


Then, about that time were other open source developers who wanted to
replace MDX

Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

[dark]

This is actually why i tend to keep hal running even when having Sapi read 
screens in winfrotz tts, so that words like Qo'nos are indeed readable with 
virtual focus.


I will say though as someone who needs to use sapi support a lot in games 
which either don't print text to the screen for Hal to read or where such 
reading would interfere with the game (eg in a mud), I don't find it too 
much trouble.


In fact vip mud has a very nice answer to the spelling problem in terms of 
it's find and review keys precisely so that you can check spellings and grab 
words from the output window to use in commands and I've used the keys very 
efficiently with sapi.


Beware the grue!

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

[Jim Kitchen]

Hi Thomas,

Right if you are playing a text adventure game with some text adventure tool 
kit engine, but if you are writing a game yourself you can build in all of the 
sapi5 speech review that one would need.  Like spelling out names, places, 
things etc etc like Qo'nos for example.  It just takes building in any review 
that a person might need.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

[Jim Kitchen]

Hi Hayden,

Wow! that's pretty amazing that you got Scansoft Jill from one of my games since I 
myself do not even have that voice. 

I do have
AT&T Crystal
AT&T Audrey
AT&T Charles
AT&T Claire
AT&T Anjali
AT&T Lauren
AT&T Mel
AT&T Mike
AT&T Ray
AT&T Rich
Cepstral Emily
Cepstral Frank
Cepstral Linda
Cepstral Robin
CMU Kal Diphone
Microsoft Mary
Microsoft Mike
Microsoft Sam
NeoSpeech Kate 
NeoSpeech Paul

ScanSoft Jane
ScanSoft Jennifer

My favorites are AT&T Lauren, AT&T Crystal and AT&T Charles.  But I do also 
like NeoSpeech Kate both on my computer and on my Book Sense XT.

BFN

Jim

You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.

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Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

[NIcol]

Hi Jack
I am not trying to sound rude or flame or bash you, but if you include the
word please in your messages, the tone of your message might be experienced
much better by gamers.
You wrote:
I want the tdl maze game.
You probably just forgot to put the word please.
Please can I have the tdl maze game? 
It can leave the impression that you demand the maze game instead of
requesting it.
I'm not saying that your intention is to demand.
I'm just saying that  if you include the word please more people will be
willing to help you.
Whereas  if you forget to say please, people will be reluctant to help.
Just a bit of friendly advice.
I am busy uploading super shot to send space for people who requested it.
Thereafter, I will upload the maze game from TDL games, to send space. 
Like I said previously, I personally find the game buggy, but I understand
if you want to try it out for yourself and see for yourself if there is any
bugs.

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Sent: 27 March 2011 09:34 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

Hi Shane,
I want the tdl maze game.
best regards,
Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] Cheets

[Shane Lowe]

lost it

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cheets



Hi,
Lol. How about finding the one without them? Or did you lose it.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cheets

yeah?
Oh wait were there cheats in that game recording?
damn! i mean darn! I uploaded the version with cheats and deleeted the
version without them.
Because yes I found them.
Your pretty smart.

Shane

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cheets



Hi,
I know because:
1. I kept hearing ypu swinging your sword, and as you did it I heard the
amo
sound.
2. There is no way you can get hit by three motocycles on that level,
withoutdrinking any potions, and still be avlive.
3. Younever ran out of amo; you would have if you hadn't used that cheat.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Behalf Of Shane Lowe
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:40 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Cheets

How do you know I used the cheats?
1. I sent a message to the list 2 weeks ago and havent gotten a single
reply.
2. Just reviewed the recording no cheats there.
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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

[Shane Lowe]

You don't have to go to your control panel, quick time, handled files.

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To: "Valiant8086" 
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind



Hi Valiant,

No, I do not have iTunes installed.  But I just checked and do have the 
Quick Time player from some where.  Thanks for the information.  I'm just 
not sure if I want to uninstall the quick time player.  Not sure if 
something might use it.  But again thanks for letting me know why Internet 
Explorer is doing that.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[Shane Lowe]

You can download the game by clicking the link below
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe

You can download bgt by clicking here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_english_installer1.0.exe

Thanks,
Shane

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Hello Shane, where do you get the battle Zone game? I would like to play
that game.


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Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles

[Shane Lowe]

exactly
bavisoftbasicly just crawled in to a hole and died for all they are comming 
out with.


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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:34 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles



Chillingham!  Ha ha ha ha ha!  Coming out soon!
Hee hee hee hee!  Oh my!  Thanks for the gut-busting laugh!  Ha ha ha ha! 
Ouch!  My ribs hurt now!  Ha ha ha!  Oh my!  Ho ho ho!  Oh I've got tears 
in my eyes I'm laughing so hard!  ROFL


Ken Downey
The Addictor
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] light battles



Hi Jack,

I don't know who or what your sources are, but they are way off. Jedi
Quest is a dead project. The lead developer for LightTech up and quit
several months back, and although their website is up they are
effectively out of business. So please stop giving the list false hope
based on out of date information.

As for Super Liam 2 I've already answered that one. Liam is now
working at a real programming job, and all of his game projects are
more or less on hold until such time he has to actually work on them.
No great mystery there why we aren't seeing a lot of new games from
that corner these days. Although, he did manage to produce a new
version of Super Egg Hunt so we should all thank Liam for that upgrade
given his lack of free time these days.

As for Chillingham 2 all I can say is you have more faith in Bavisoft
than I do. As others have said it has been 7 or 8 years since they
have produced anything, and I can say from a programmer's personal
point of view that it shouldn't take that long to produce Chillingham
2. Even giving them a break on the length of time to say it is in
"early development" is a bit of a open ended statement. Are you saying
that they only just started it right now, or did they start it and
forget about it for x number of years and start up again?

You see if I started a project 7 years ago and continued working on it
for an hour or two a day I wouldn't call that "early development" at
all because the product I'd have would be very very safisticated by
now. Although, MOTA is three years old in actuallity most of that time
was spent developing a game engine for developing the future USA Games
titles, and serious development on the game itself has only been over
the last three/four months. So that's less than your 7 or 8 years of
time and I have created something a lot more safisticated than
Chillingham 2 in a lot less time. So I think Bavisoft is just blowing
smoke.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[Mich]

Hi I to have just started playing this game and love it as well. I have not 
been able to get past level 1 though. one thing I would like to see is some 
sort of a change in noize to let you know you are getting to the edge of a 
pit. I have been walking and have walked right off the edge in to a pit. 
other then that it is really cool. keep up the good work.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone


I have to say that this game is quite addictive.  I couldn't hear the pit 
sound very well, so I did modify that one sound.  I yelled, "Look out! 
Watch where you're steppin'!"  I mixed that yell into the pit sound two 
times, one at the beginning and one about five seconds later--but there are 
still like ten seconds of wind after, so often I still fall into the pit 
only to be told, as I plummet to my death, to watch my step.
Anyway, even with that extra bit of help I find the game rather difficult. 
No, I'm not complaining--I love it!  I haven't got past level 3, and I 
keep dying for some unknown reason I haven't figured out get.


Two improvements I'd like to see:
1.  Sometimes, items fall just as you are completing a level, and you're 
stuck listening to a high-pitched shriek as you're told your stats. 
Stopping all sounds would fix it.
2.  An analog jumping system would be killer.  It would make things a lot 
harder, but it would be worth it.

Thanks, and love the game!
Ken Downey
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Hello Shane, where do you get the battle Zone game? I would like to play
that game.


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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[fred olver]

I would like to try this game as well, where can I find it?

Fred Olver

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>I have to say that this game is quite addictive.  I couldn't hear the pit 
>sound very well, so I did modify that one sound.  I yelled, "Look out! 
>Watch where you're steppin'!"  I mixed that yell into the pit sound two 
>times, one at the beginning and one about five seconds later--but there are 
>still like ten seconds of wind after, so often I still fall into the pit 
>only to be told, as I plummet to my death, to watch my step.
> Anyway, even with that extra bit of help I find the game rather difficult. 
> No, I'm not complaining--I love it!  I haven't got past level 3, and I 
> keep dying for some unknown reason I haven't figured out get.
>
> Two improvements I'd like to see:
> 1.  Sometimes, items fall just as you are completing a level, and you're 
> stuck listening to a high-pitched shriek as you're told your stats. 
> Stopping all sounds would fix it.
> 2.  An analog jumping system would be killer.  It would make things a lot 
> harder, but it would be worth it.
> Thanks, and love the game!
> Ken Downey
> The Addictor
> www.TheAddictor.com
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sky Mundell" 
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone
>
>
>>
>> Hello Shane, where do you get the battle Zone game? I would like to play
>> that game.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

[fred olver]

Thanks, I'll get to it this morning.

Fred
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:49 AM
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> Hi Fred,
>
> What you have to do is this. You go to start menu, go to battle zone, then 
> you go to play battle xone then you should hear the bgt message and your 
> done. Just press enter and the game will start after the bgt intro 
> message.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "fred olver" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!
>
>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Do I load the game first or the toolkit, I think it is?
>>
>> Fred Olver
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Shane Lowe" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!
>>
>>
>>> You need bgt to play battlezone.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "fred olver" 
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!
>>>
>>>
 What is this second file for???
 F
 red Olver

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 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


> here
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
> You can get bgt here
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_english_installer1.0.exe
>
> Shane
>
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!
>
>
>> Where can I find the game battle zone?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
>> [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of Shane Lowe
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
>> Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!
>>
>> Hi all!
>> I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
>> I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the 
>> site so
>> edited out the winning sound.
>> Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires 
>> and I'll
>> refresh it.
>> the link is
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
>> ng.mp3
>>
>> Thanks send comments,
>> Shane
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[Audyssey] super shot game is here

[NIcol]

Hi list 
For those of you who requested the supershot game, here is the link.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/39r01d
I only have the setup file for the demo which excludes the bonus level.
It would be nice if liam can have us play the bonus level, but if this is
not possible, I'll understand.
Tdl maze game is coming.
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[Audyssey] tdl maze game is here

[NIcol]

Hi list
Here is the link for tdl maze game.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qj2gqy
Hope this is the game you're looking for, jack. 
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Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

[The Addictor]

He's been asking for these games for a while now, and though people tell him 
they're not around, or not free, he asks again anyway.

Ken Downey
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game



Hi Jack
I am not trying to sound rude or flame or bash you, but if you include the
word please in your messages, the tone of your message might be 
experienced

much better by gamers.
You wrote:
I want the tdl maze game.
You probably just forgot to put the word please.
Please can I have the tdl maze game?
It can leave the impression that you demand the maze game instead of
requesting it.
I'm not saying that your intention is to demand.
I'm just saying that  if you include the word please more people will be
willing to help you.
Whereas  if you forget to say please, people will be reluctant to help.
Just a bit of friendly advice.
I am busy uploading super shot to send space for people who requested it.
Thereafter, I will upload the maze game from TDL games, to send space.
Like I said previously, I personally find the game buggy, but I understand
if you want to try it out for yourself and see for yourself if there is 
any

bugs.

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Sent: 27 March 2011 09:34 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

Hi Shane,
I want the tdl maze game.
best regards,
Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Ken,

Oh, yeah! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Did you hear Chillingham 2 is going
to be out sometime this lifetime? Ho Hho ho ho ho ho ho ho! Ha ha ha
ha ha he he he he! Yeah, its coming out real soon! It is going to
bring Bavisoft back to the forefront of accessible game developers! Ha
ha ha ha ha ha! Not!

Ahem...Now, that we got that childish glee out of the way you are
absolutely right. Not going to happen in this lifetime. Bavisoft is a
done deal. We might as well hang them up as a lost cause. Stick a fork
in them because they are done. As far as I'm concerned Chillingham and
Grizzly Gulch are abandonware.

Cheers!


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> Chillingham!  Ha ha ha ha ha!  Coming out soon!
> Hee hee hee hee!  Oh my!  Thanks for the gut-busting laugh!  Ha ha ha ha!
> Ouch!  My ribs hurt now!  Ha ha ha!  Oh my!  Ho ho ho!  Oh I've got tears in
> my eyes I'm laughing so hard!  ROFL
>
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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[Shiny protector]

The developer is key is full.
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone



Never mind I got the battle Zone game and I am going to start playing it,
Who was the developer of the game? I have a suggestion. In the installer,
the game doesn't ask you what folder you would like to put it in. I put it
in c:'program files, but all of my other games are on c:\users\sky\games
that's because I'm running windows 7.
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Hello Shane, where do you get the battle Zone game? I would like to play
that game.


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Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles

[Shiny protector]

Good. The good thing is that they pulled themselves out of the whole and are 
ready again.
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles



Hi Ken,

Oh, yeah! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Did you hear Chillingham 2 is going
to be out sometime this lifetime? Ho Hho ho ho ho ho ho ho! Ha ha ha
ha ha he he he he! Yeah, its coming out real soon! It is going to
bring Bavisoft back to the forefront of accessible game developers! Ha
ha ha ha ha ha! Not!

Ahem...Now, that we got that childish glee out of the way you are
absolutely right. Not going to happen in this lifetime. Bavisoft is a
done deal. We might as well hang them up as a lost cause. Stick a fork
in them because they are done. As far as I'm concerned Chillingham and
Grizzly Gulch are abandonware.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, The Addictor  wrote:

Chillingham!  Ha ha ha ha ha!  Coming out soon!
Hee hee hee hee!  Oh my!  Thanks for the gut-busting laugh!  Ha ha ha ha!
Ouch!  My ribs hurt now!  Ha ha ha!  Oh my!  Ho ho ho!  Oh I've got tears 
in

my eyes I'm laughing so hard!  ROFL

Ken Downey
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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Dark,

Let's make a destinction here. DirectX and Managed DirectX are not the
same thing. Microsoft DirectX, I.E. the DirectX you are talking about,
is already a core component of the Windows operating system. The core
DirectX 8 libraries ship with XP, Vista, and Win 7 by default. Managed
DirectX, MDX,  was a very specific version of DirectX written and
created exclusively for .Net development with languages like C#.net
and VB.net. It could not be used by any other languages. So a game
like Turrican definitely does not use Managed DirectX, but core
DirectX 8. Does that make sense?

Anyway, When MDX was initially created word was that it was going to
become a core component of Windows Vista, but as I and everyone else
soon found out it didn't happen. It was pulled from the Win Vista
betas and was not included in the Vista final release. The only way to
get it was to install the full DirectX 9.0C runtime which of course
was like a 300 MB download. I personally felt lied to, and I don't
think my customers should have to install that particular component
when there are better alternatives available to them. More over at
this point I'm so absolutely disgusted with Microsoft's business
practices I'd like to distance myself from their APIs etc as much as
possible on principle. They treat both their customers and third-party
developers like crap. You know the saying, "once bitten twice shy,"
that's me in a nutshell. I don't trust Microsoft when it comes to
technology changes because I believe they pulled this stunt once
they'll do it again.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, dark  wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> these shenanigans with microsoft promising one api and replacing it with
> another, and an inaccessible one at that sound fairly typical unfortunately.
>
> Personally though as a player, there are so many direct x games out there it
> isn't funny, I'll probably need to have direct x on my system for a good
> while,  heck look at Jim and vb.
>
> This doesn't just apply to audio games though at all. Both of my favourite
> freeware graphical Turrican projects are direct x applications.
>
> My personal thought is, so long as a developer will provide me with either
> the dependencies themselves or a place I can get them, i really don't mind
> downloading other stuff, and in fact I suspect that in three or five years
> or so when this desktop goes caputski and I'm forced to switch to a windows
> 7 machine I'll be needing direct x anyway precisely for that reason.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles

[Thomas Ward]

Ummm...Muhammed. I'm not sure if you were taking Ken and I seriously
or not, but I just wanted to say we were kidding around. Neither of us
believe Bavisoft is coming back, and that's the reason for the onlist
teasing and joking. there certainly is no indication they have pulled
themselves out of the hole and are ready to sstart developing again.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, Shiny protector  wrote:
> Good. The good thing is that they pulled themselves out of the whole and are
> ready again.

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Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Jim,

That's definitely an interesting list of voices. While I generally
like the Cepstral voices Emily, Frank, Linda, and Robin definitely
aren't my favorites. They are some of there lower quality sounding
voices in my opinion. I like Cepstral Diane, Cepstral Callie, and
Cepstral David which I use on my Linux laptop for reading books,
e-mails, etc.  However, we seam to be in agreement regarding the At&T
voices.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
> Hi Hayden,
>
> Wow! that's pretty amazing that you got Scansoft Jill from one of my games
> since I myself do not even have that voice. 
>
> I do have
> AT&T Crystal
> AT&T Audrey
> AT&T Charles
> AT&T Claire
> AT&T Anjali
> AT&T Lauren
> AT&T Mel
> AT&T Mike
> AT&T Ray
> AT&T Rich
> Cepstral Emily
> Cepstral Frank
> Cepstral Linda
> Cepstral Robin
> CMU Kal Diphone
> Microsoft Mary
> Microsoft Mike
> Microsoft Sam
> NeoSpeech Kate
> NeoSpeech Paul
> ScanSoft Jane
> ScanSoft Jennifer
>
> My favorites are AT&T Lauren, AT&T Crystal and AT&T Charles.  But I do also
> like NeoSpeech Kate both on my computer and on my Book Sense XT.
>
> BFN
>
>  Jim
>
> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.
>
> j...@kitchensinc.net
> http://www.kitchensinc.net
> (440) 286-6920
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[Audyssey] Pontes Backgammon

[Karl Belanger]

Hi all,

A new Backgammon game has just been released. It was written using GT and is
playable both online and offline. The game costs 13 euros which equals to
about $18. There is also a demo available which allows unrestricted play for
a period of time then stops the game after four pieces have been removed.

The game's web site is:

http://www.backgammon.pontes.ro  

And you can discuss it at:

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=49955#p49955

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Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles

[Bryan Peterson]

Well if that ever does prove to be true then good. But I kinda wonder if you 
got the joke.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Good. The good thing is that they pulled themselves out of the whole and 
are ready again.
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To: "The Addictor" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles



Hi Ken,

Oh, yeah! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Did you hear Chillingham 2 is going
to be out sometime this lifetime? Ho Hho ho ho ho ho ho ho! Ha ha ha
ha ha he he he he! Yeah, its coming out real soon! It is going to
bring Bavisoft back to the forefront of accessible game developers! Ha
ha ha ha ha ha! Not!

Ahem...Now, that we got that childish glee out of the way you are
absolutely right. Not going to happen in this lifetime. Bavisoft is a
done deal. We might as well hang them up as a lost cause. Stick a fork
in them because they are done. As far as I'm concerned Chillingham and
Grizzly Gulch are abandonware.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, The Addictor  wrote:

Chillingham!  Ha ha ha ha ha!  Coming out soon!
Hee hee hee hee!  Oh my!  Thanks for the gut-busting laugh!  Ha ha ha 
ha!
Ouch!  My ribs hurt now!  Ha ha ha!  Oh my!  Ho ho ho!  Oh I've got 
tears in

my eyes I'm laughing so hard!  ROFL

Ken Downey
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Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles

[Bryan Peterson]

Exactly. Personal difficulties or not if you don't have the common courtesy 
to atleast let people know tat someting's been happening to prevent you from 
focusing on the hobby! of accessible game development you're going to lose 
people's faith. I myself am having marrital problems and in fact it's 
probably safe to say that the marriage is over. That's why I haven't been 
focusing on the game I'm working on with BGT. Not that I've been keeping up 
a blog on the development progress but still. Bavisoft has lost all their 
credibility because of their secrecy. It's almost as if they were engaged in 
some shameful activity that they didn't want others to know about. And by 
that I obviously mean the development of audio games. Even Draconis, 
secretive though they are (or perhaps just close would be a better word), 
still keep us at least generally up to date on the fact that they are still 
operating.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Ummm...Muhammed. I'm not sure if you were taking Ken and I seriously
or not, but I just wanted to say we were kidding around. Neither of us
believe Bavisoft is coming back, and that's the reason for the onlist
teasing and joking. there certainly is no indication they have pulled
themselves out of the hole and are ready to sstart developing again.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, Shiny protector  wrote:
Good. The good thing is that they pulled themselves out of the whole and 
are

ready again.


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[Audyssey] RSGames Client

[Damien Pendleton]

Hey guys,
I sent this email a few days ago and got no response. I didn't even get a copy 
of it myself and I have been having problems with my mailbox, so I'm not even 
sure if it came through on your end.
I am having a couple problems with the RSGames Client when accessing some 
property related menus in Monopoly.
The problem mainly occurs when I can't afford a property and it asks me to 
manage my assets to pay off the owed money. When I mortgage my properties it 
says invalid choice and the menus start nesting each other. I have tried doing 
an admin chat and have also attempted to contact Ryan via both email and MSN 
and have received no response.
Sometimes the menus will say invalid choice even when I am manually going into 
the management menus.
Also a couple of minor bugs in that the client is saying invalid choice after 
sounds have downloaded, and also the British monopoly board sometimes switches 
between pounds and dollars.
I redownloaded the client about a week ago just to make sure I wasn't missing 
any updates, and it was still happening. Bearing in mind this has now been 
going on since the end of last year.
Is there a fix for this or is it being worked on? Is it a server or a client 
issue?
Thanks.
Regards,
Damien.
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Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

[Shiny protector]

My favourite is scansoft Daniel.
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects



Hi Jim,

That's definitely an interesting list of voices. While I generally
like the Cepstral voices Emily, Frank, Linda, and Robin definitely
aren't my favorites. They are some of there lower quality sounding
voices in my opinion. I like Cepstral Diane, Cepstral Callie, and
Cepstral David which I use on my Linux laptop for reading books,
e-mails, etc.  However, we seam to be in agreement regarding the At&T
voices.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, Jim Kitchen  wrote:

Hi Hayden,

Wow! that's pretty amazing that you got Scansoft Jill from one of my 
games

since I myself do not even have that voice. 

I do have
AT&T Crystal
AT&T Audrey
AT&T Charles
AT&T Claire
AT&T Anjali
AT&T Lauren
AT&T Mel
AT&T Mike
AT&T Ray
AT&T Rich
Cepstral Emily
Cepstral Frank
Cepstral Linda
Cepstral Robin
CMU Kal Diphone
Microsoft Mary
Microsoft Mike
Microsoft Sam
NeoSpeech Kate
NeoSpeech Paul
ScanSoft Jane
ScanSoft Jennifer

My favorites are AT&T Lauren, AT&T Crystal and AT&T Charles.  But I do 
also

like NeoSpeech Kate both on my computer and on my Book Sense XT.

BFN

 Jim

You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[Sky Mundell]

Hello Shane, thanks for the link. I was playing the game last night and I
had a lot of fun with it. Did you develop the blind game in bgt? If so, I
have a suggestion as to how it could be inprooved.


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Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

[Shiny protector]

Hi,

It could be seen that way, but I do not always say please.
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To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game



Hi Jack
I am not trying to sound rude or flame or bash you, but if you include the
word please in your messages, the tone of your message might be 
experienced

much better by gamers.
You wrote:
I want the tdl maze game.
You probably just forgot to put the word please.
Please can I have the tdl maze game?
It can leave the impression that you demand the maze game instead of
requesting it.
I'm not saying that your intention is to demand.
I'm just saying that  if you include the word please more people will be
willing to help you.
Whereas  if you forget to say please, people will be reluctant to help.
Just a bit of friendly advice.
I am busy uploading super shot to send space for people who requested it.
Thereafter, I will upload the maze game from TDL games, to send space.
Like I said previously, I personally find the game buggy, but I understand
if you want to try it out for yourself and see for yourself if there is 
any

bugs.

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Behalf Of Jack F
Sent: 27 March 2011 09:34 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

Hi Shane,
I want the tdl maze game.
best regards,
Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

[dark]

Ah, fair enough tom.

i admit I didn't know about the difference betwene managed direct x and 
direct x. That probably explains why so many things need direct x generally.


Beware the Grue!

dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:02 PM
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Hi Dark,

Let's make a destinction here. DirectX and Managed DirectX are not the
same thing. Microsoft DirectX, I.E. the DirectX you are talking about,
is already a core component of the Windows operating system. The core
DirectX 8 libraries ship with XP, Vista, and Win 7 by default. Managed
DirectX, MDX,  was a very specific version of DirectX written and
created exclusively for .Net development with languages like C#.net
and VB.net. It could not be used by any other languages. So a game
like Turrican definitely does not use Managed DirectX, but core
DirectX 8. Does that make sense?

Anyway, When MDX was initially created word was that it was going to
become a core component of Windows Vista, but as I and everyone else
soon found out it didn't happen. It was pulled from the Win Vista
betas and was not included in the Vista final release. The only way to
get it was to install the full DirectX 9.0C runtime which of course
was like a 300 MB download. I personally felt lied to, and I don't
think my customers should have to install that particular component
when there are better alternatives available to them. More over at
this point I'm so absolutely disgusted with Microsoft's business
practices I'd like to distance myself from their APIs etc as much as
possible on principle. They treat both their customers and third-party
developers like crap. You know the saying, "once bitten twice shy,"
that's me in a nutshell. I don't trust Microsoft when it comes to
technology changes because I believe they pulled this stunt once
they'll do it again.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

these shenanigans with microsoft promising one api and replacing it with
another, and an inaccessible one at that sound fairly typical 
unfortunately.


Personally though as a player, there are so many direct x games out there 
it

isn't funny, I'll probably need to have direct x on my system for a good
while,  heck look at Jim and vb.

This doesn't just apply to audio games though at all. Both of my 
favourite

freeware graphical Turrican projects are direct x applications.

My personal thought is, so long as a developer will provide me with 
either
the dependencies themselves or a place I can get them, i really don't 
mind
downloading other stuff, and in fact I suspect that in three or five 
years
or so when this desktop goes caputski and I'm forced to switch to a 
windows

7 machine I'll be needing direct x anyway precisely for that reason.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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[Audyssey] Sound Effect for Monopoly

[Tommy]

Hey guys! I'm just wondering where can I find sound effect for the Monopoly 
game? I like the sound effects that RSGames have. Where can I find those 
sound effects?


Thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Dark,

Smile. I figured that's what happened. When a developer specifically
says Managed DirectX most gamers naturally assume they are talking
about the DirectX libraries that ship with Windows. I.E. the core
DirectX libraries that most games generally use. For whatever reason
Microsoft never made it clear to the general public that they actually
have or had two different DirectX APIs available. So when a developer
such as myself lists you need Managed DirectX for STFC, Montezuma's
Revenge, etc people automatically assume they have it installed since
DirectX comes with Windows. When the game doesn't work USA Games gets
asked why it isn't working and they say I have DirectX 8, 9.0C,  etc,
.Net Framework x, etc and most of them don't have a clue that DirectX
and Managed DirectX are two totally different things. When I tell them
they have to grab the web installer and have it install the MDX
components I generally have to explain to them that Managed DirectX
and DirectX aren't the same thing. As a developer it just gets to be a
hastle repeatedly explaining the same thing over and over again to a
customer base, because they just don't know that DirectX and Managed
DirectX aren't the same thing.

Which brings me right back to why I'd like to get the original STFC
off my website in the first place. The Managed DirectX API is
deprecated, gone, ancient history, and to make matters worse there are
still people who haven't a clue what it is or was. You mention DirectX
or Managed DirectX they just assume you are talking about one and the
same thing. As a developer who does his own tech support I'd like to
be able to simply dispose of Managed DirectX, get it out of the
picture, and adopt something most people can recognize as A, different
from DirectX, or B, just use DirectX so people won't have to ffool
with installing extra components.

Cheers!


On 3/28/11, dark  wrote:
> Ah, fair enough tom.
>
> i admit I didn't know about the difference betwene managed direct x and
> direct x. That probably explains why so many things need direct x generally.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

[Pitermach]

I so totally agree with you dark. This is sort of how I feel with the PCS 
dos games which I successfully gotten the demos of to work under windows 
with nvda in the command prompt, but you can't get the full versions 
anymore. Very sad indeed since those are quite a major thing in the 
audiogame history imho.
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Subject: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock


While I appreciate from a programmers point of view that you want the 
latest and best version of something available and don't want your old 
work kicking around, as a player it always strikes me as A, slightly sad, 
and B, a litle pointless when a game is taken down especially when it had 
some merrit.




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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

[The Addictor]

Yeah, those Dos pcs games kicked butt.  Maybe they are primative compared to 
some of the stuff that's out now, but nothing compares to, for example the 
junkyard.  I used to spend hours on that range, just waiting to see if I 
couldn't blow up that propane tank.  Cops was fun too, as well as Snipe 
Hunt.

Ken Downey
The Addictor
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock


I so totally agree with you dark. This is sort of how I feel with the PCS 
dos games which I successfully gotten the demos of to work under windows 
with nvda in the command prompt, but you can't get the full versions 
anymore. Very sad indeed since those are quite a major thing in the 
audiogame history imho.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock


While I appreciate from a programmers point of view that you want the 
latest and best version of something available and don't want your old 
work kicking around, as a player it always strikes me as A, slightly sad, 
and B, a litle pointless when a game is taken down especially when it had 
some merrit.




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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

[Phil Vlasak]

Hi Ken,
And don't forget PCS Space invaders with voice by
Cristina Downey and voice editing by Ken Downey.

My next project is to make a windows version of Cops with a junk yard target 
range.

Phil

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From: "The Addictor" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock


Yeah, those Dos pcs games kicked butt.  Maybe they are primative compared 
to some of the stuff that's out now, but nothing compares to, for example 
the junkyard.  I used to spend hours on that range, just waiting to see if 
I couldn't blow up that propane tank.  Cops was fun too, as well as Snipe 
Hunt.

Ken Downey
The Addictor
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock


I so totally agree with you dark. This is sort of how I feel with the PCS 
dos games which I successfully gotten the demos of to work under windows 
with nvda in the command prompt, but you can't get the full versions 
anymore. Very sad indeed since those are quite a major thing in the 
audiogame history imho.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock


While I appreciate from a programmers point of view that you want the 
latest and best version of something available and don't want your old 
work kicking around, as a player it always strikes me as A, slightly 
sad, and B, a litle pointless when a game is taken down especially when 
it had some merrit.




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[Audyssey] some psx games - collection of accessible emulators for the blind

[Matheus r.c. souza]

hey everyone!
the psx games won't have a pack, they will be available separately because
they are too big.
so first i present you gekido: urban fighters, a great beat'em up.
and then fisherman's bait, a great fishing game(with menus described in a text 
file by me, yay
put these in psx\cdimages
v1.0 of the emulators collection should cme tomorrow.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/Gekido_Urban_Fighters.cdz
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/Big_Ol_Bass.cdz
documentation of the fishing game
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/fisherman%27s%20bait%202%20control.txt
small review of the game(keep in mind my voice sucks and my pronunciation
is bad, i've started a english course)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/fisherman%27s%20bait%20small%20review.mp3

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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[Shane Lowe]

I've posted about 5 download links click on one of them.
Sorry just a bit anoied from work.

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From: "fred olver" 
To: "The Addictor" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone



I would like to try this game as well, where can I find it?

Fred Olver

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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone


I have to say that this game is quite addictive.  I couldn't hear the pit 
sound very well, so I did modify that one sound.  I yelled, "Look out! 
Watch where you're steppin'!"  I mixed that yell into the pit sound two 
times, one at the beginning and one about five seconds later--but there 
are still like ten seconds of wind after, so often I still fall into the 
pit only to be told, as I plummet to my death, to watch my step.
Anyway, even with that extra bit of help I find the game rather 
difficult. No, I'm not complaining--I love it!  I haven't got past level 
3, and I keep dying for some unknown reason I haven't figured out get.


Two improvements I'd like to see:
1.  Sometimes, items fall just as you are completing a level, and you're 
stuck listening to a high-pitched shriek as you're told your stats. 
Stopping all sounds would fix it.
2.  An analog jumping system would be killer.  It would make things a lot 
harder, but it would be worth it.

Thanks, and love the game!
Ken Downey
The Addictor
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone




Hello Shane, where do you get the battle Zone game? I would like to play
that game.


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Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

[Shane Lowe]

lol

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From: "The Addictor" 

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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game


He's been asking for these games for a while now, and though people tell 
him they're not around, or not free, he asks again anyway.

Ken Downey
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From: "NIcol" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game



Hi Jack
I am not trying to sound rude or flame or bash you, but if you include 
the
word please in your messages, the tone of your message might be 
experienced

much better by gamers.
You wrote:
I want the tdl maze game.
You probably just forgot to put the word please.
Please can I have the tdl maze game?
It can leave the impression that you demand the maze game instead of
requesting it.
I'm not saying that your intention is to demand.
I'm just saying that  if you include the word please more people will be
willing to help you.
Whereas  if you forget to say please, people will be reluctant to help.
Just a bit of friendly advice.
I am busy uploading super shot to send space for people who requested it.
Thereafter, I will upload the maze game from TDL games, to send space.
Like I said previously, I personally find the game buggy, but I 
understand
if you want to try it out for yourself and see for yourself if there is 
any

bugs.

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Behalf Of Jack F
Sent: 27 March 2011 09:34 PM
To: gamers
Subject: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

Hi Shane,
I want the tdl maze game.
best regards,
Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Client

[Shane Lowe]

I've got no clue at all.
Thats a dificult one.
Hey I've one the cheats for ace fire and chopper challange but havent gotten 
them yet they havent generated.

Do you know whats wrong with this and could you send them to
shanel...@insightbb.com
?
Thanks,
Shane

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From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:33 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] RSGames Client



Hey guys,
I sent this email a few days ago and got no response. I didn't even get a 
copy of it myself and I have been having problems with my mailbox, so I'm 
not even sure if it came through on your end.
I am having a couple problems with the RSGames Client when accessing some 
property related menus in Monopoly.
The problem mainly occurs when I can't afford a property and it asks me to 
manage my assets to pay off the owed money. When I mortgage my properties 
it says invalid choice and the menus start nesting each other. I have 
tried doing an admin chat and have also attempted to contact Ryan via both 
email and MSN and have received no response.
Sometimes the menus will say invalid choice even when I am manually going 
into the management menus.
Also a couple of minor bugs in that the client is saying invalid choice 
after sounds have downloaded, and also the British monopoly board 
sometimes switches between pounds and dollars.
I redownloaded the client about a week ago just to make sure I wasn't 
missing any updates, and it was still happening. Bearing in mind this has 
now been going on since the end of last year.
Is there a fix for this or is it being worked on? Is it a server or a 
client issue?

Thanks.
Regards,
Damien.
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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[Shane Lowe]

How can it be improoved?

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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone



Hello Shane, thanks for the link. I was playing the game last night and I
had a lot of fun with it. Did you develop the blind game in bgt? If so, I
have a suggestion as to how it could be inprooved.


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Re: [Audyssey] super shot game is here

[Shane Lowe]

It won't let me donwload it.

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From: "NIcol" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:14 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] super shot game is here



Hi list
For those of you who requested the supershot game, here is the link.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/39r01d
I only have the setup file for the demo which excludes the bonus level.
It would be nice if liam can have us play the bonus level, but if this is
not possible, I'll understand.
Tdl maze game is coming.
Happy gaming!


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[Audyssey] X-Sight Games - Re: RSGames Client

[Damien Pendleton]

Hi Shane,
I regret to inform you that the Chopper Challenge game is no longer 
supported. When we had a few coders over at X-Sight, the code wasn't being 
synchronised and managed in a controlled manner, causing bugs to crop up 
here and there where we thought they had previously been fixed. As a result, 
the coding for Chopper Challenge was more or less completed by one guy with 
very little input from me. Now he has left I am left with a very buggy 
source code which I find I can't fix because it is very messy and not 
commented. Even the segments of code which were mine I was very shocked upon 
reading it and trying to wade my way through it. This was a project back 
from the mid 2000's, and I thought it was a bit past its time.
If there is popular demand for it then I may consider rewriting it. However, 
for now, consider Chopper Challenge abandonware.
I think now is a good time to say that, unfortunately, Acefire will end up 
the same way, for the same reasons. For the sort of games I am working on 
currently, Acefire now seems like a very basic project, almost a beginner's 
work. A few concepts here and there that made it look advanced, but again, 
the code is very messy and I have had several bugs reported to me that I 
cannot find their source.
I am currently working on a title which should hopefully keep you on the 
edge of your seats clinging on for dear life, that's all I'll say for now. 
Watch out for trailers and other snippets as the game becomes more formed. 
Also I am working on updating River Raiders, so if you have any suggestions, 
now's the time to book them through. Grin.

If anyone has any questions, you all know where to find me.
Lastly, for anyone who doesn't yet know. I've set up a discussion forum at 
X-Sight where you can discuss things. I'll be posting updates and content on 
there and I'll be taking my blog down soon. It is much easier to interact 
with a community base through a forum than a blog, in my opinion.

Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shane Lowe" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Client



I've got no clue at all.
Thats a dificult one.
Hey I've one the cheats for ace fire and chopper challange but havent 
gotten them yet they havent generated.

Do you know whats wrong with this and could you send them to
shanel...@insightbb.com
?
Thanks,
Shane

- Original Message - 
From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:33 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] RSGames Client



Hey guys,
I sent this email a few days ago and got no response. I didn't even get a 
copy of it myself and I have been having problems with my mailbox, so I'm 
not even sure if it came through on your end.
I am having a couple problems with the RSGames Client when accessing some 
property related menus in Monopoly.
The problem mainly occurs when I can't afford a property and it asks me 
to manage my assets to pay off the owed money. When I mortgage my 
properties it says invalid choice and the menus start nesting each other. 
I have tried doing an admin chat and have also attempted to contact Ryan 
via both email and MSN and have received no response.
Sometimes the menus will say invalid choice even when I am manually going 
into the management menus.
Also a couple of minor bugs in that the client is saying invalid choice 
after sounds have downloaded, and also the British monopoly board 
sometimes switches between pounds and dollars.
I redownloaded the client about a week ago just to make sure I wasn't 
missing any updates, and it was still happening. Bearing in mind this has 
now been going on since the end of last year.
Is there a fix for this or is it being worked on? Is it a server or a 
client issue?

Thanks.
Regards,
Damien.
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Games - Re: RSGames Client

[Shane Lowe]

what is river raider?

- Original Message - 
From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:16 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Games - Re: RSGames Client



Hi Shane,
I regret to inform you that the Chopper Challenge game is no longer 
supported. When we had a few coders over at X-Sight, the code wasn't being 
synchronised and managed in a controlled manner, causing bugs to crop up 
here and there where we thought they had previously been fixed. As a 
result, the coding for Chopper Challenge was more or less completed by one 
guy with very little input from me. Now he has left I am left with a very 
buggy source code which I find I can't fix because it is very messy and 
not commented. Even the segments of code which were mine I was very 
shocked upon reading it and trying to wade my way through it. This was a 
project back from the mid 2000's, and I thought it was a bit past its 
time.
If there is popular demand for it then I may consider rewriting it. 
However, for now, consider Chopper Challenge abandonware.
I think now is a good time to say that, unfortunately, Acefire will end up 
the same way, for the same reasons. For the sort of games I am working on 
currently, Acefire now seems like a very basic project, almost a 
beginner's work. A few concepts here and there that made it look advanced, 
but again, the code is very messy and I have had several bugs reported to 
me that I cannot find their source.
I am currently working on a title which should hopefully keep you on the 
edge of your seats clinging on for dear life, that's all I'll say for now. 
Watch out for trailers and other snippets as the game becomes more formed. 
Also I am working on updating River Raiders, so if you have any 
suggestions, now's the time to book them through. Grin.

If anyone has any questions, you all know where to find me.
Lastly, for anyone who doesn't yet know. I've set up a discussion forum at 
X-Sight where you can discuss things. I'll be posting updates and content 
on there and I'll be taking my blog down soon. It is much easier to 
interact with a community base through a forum than a blog, in my opinion.

Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shane Lowe" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Client



I've got no clue at all.
Thats a dificult one.
Hey I've one the cheats for ace fire and chopper challange but havent 
gotten them yet they havent generated.

Do you know whats wrong with this and could you send them to
shanel...@insightbb.com
?
Thanks,
Shane

- Original Message - 
From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:33 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] RSGames Client



Hey guys,
I sent this email a few days ago and got no response. I didn't even get 
a copy of it myself and I have been having problems with my mailbox, so 
I'm not even sure if it came through on your end.
I am having a couple problems with the RSGames Client when accessing 
some property related menus in Monopoly.
The problem mainly occurs when I can't afford a property and it asks me 
to manage my assets to pay off the owed money. When I mortgage my 
properties it says invalid choice and the menus start nesting each 
other. I have tried doing an admin chat and have also attempted to 
contact Ryan via both email and MSN and have received no response.
Sometimes the menus will say invalid choice even when I am manually 
going into the management menus.
Also a couple of minor bugs in that the client is saying invalid choice 
after sounds have downloaded, and also the British monopoly board 
sometimes switches between pounds and dollars.
I redownloaded the client about a week ago just to make sure I wasn't 
missing any updates, and it was still happening. Bearing in mind this 
has now been going on since the end of last year.
Is there a fix for this or is it being worked on? Is it a server or a 
client issue?

Thanks.
Regards,
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[Audyssey] new psx game uploaded and v 1.0 of emulators tomorrow!

[Matheus r.c. souza]

new psx game uploaded: knockout kings 2000. boxing game.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/KNOCKOUT_KINGS_2000.cdz
version 1.0 of the emulators collection is ready.
you will be able to download it only tomorrow though,
because i won't use dropbox, i'll use a friend's website, and that's the last 
time
that the link will change. from now on you will be able to download
it from the same address. it will be much better.
changelog:
V 1.0 - March 28, 2011
*Added some new emulators: pcsx2, chankast, Fusion.
*Corrected the Readme.
*Updated the credits section.
*Added some more sites to download roms.
hope you guys like the new changes.

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Re: [Audyssey] Sound Effect for Monopoly

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

%appData\roaming\zgp\monopoly

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Re: [Audyssey] RSGames Client

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

Actually, I am sure your message got through, for I self got this 
message. I suggest you wait for a while to hear a response, or contact 
Rs Games directly to see how they can assist you.


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[Audyssey] super shot

[Jack F]

Hi,
Thanks but it didn't work. Will you please help me get it to work?
Thanks.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] super shot

[Charles Rivard]

Probably not without more details.  Just saying that it didn't work means 
nothing.


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Subject: [Audyssey] super shot



Hi,
Thanks but it didn't work. Will you please help me get it to work?
Thanks.
best regards,
Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] Sound Effect for Monopoly

[Tommy]

Where? I didn't get that.

Tommy


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Re: [Audyssey] super shot

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Jack,

Sorry, but if you want anyone to help you with the problem you are
having you have to describe the problem. Just saying "it doesn't work"
means absolutely nothing to us. So could you please rewrite this
message with some descriptive details as to what problem/problems you
are encountering with the game and what, if anything, you tried to do
to resolve it.

Thanks.


On 3/28/11, Jack F  wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks but it didn't work. Will you please help me get it to work?
> Thanks.
> best regards,
> Jack
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[Audyssey] Important Moderator Announcement

[Thomas Ward]

Hello list,

On behalf of the list moderators I would like to request that everyone
stop sharing game roms immediately. This is not strictly speaking
completely legal. When it comes down to the issue of game roms and
game emulation it is a huge gray area as far as the law is concerned.
Most companies, and I'm saying most but certainly not all, have a
policy where by a rom can only be shared if, and only if, two basic
requirements are met. One, the person owns the original game media
such as disc, cartrage, etc. Two, if the person physically owns the
original console the game was intended for. If these two requirements
are not met sharing the rom in question is an act of software piracy.
As it is hard to tell who is legally able to download the rom or not
undoubtedly a certain amount of illegal software piracy will transpire
by sharing this content on list. Since we actively discurrage all
forms of software piracy on Audyssey we can not, and will not, allow
you to share the roms here on list.

So to clarify what you can and can not share here its fine to share
the game emulators themselves. Most of these like Snes9x etc are open
source emulators so are intended to be freely and openly shared
anyway. Giving people suggestions what websites to visit is probably
ok as it is up to the person to choose weather he/she is going to
download a rom for a game they actually own or not. However, bundling
up a bunch of game roms, slapping them on Dropbox for mass download,
etc isn't strictly the most legal thing to do since you have no idea
who is legally allowed to download those roms or not. Plus some of the
games for the PSX, for example,  can usually be purchased online for a
small amount of cash and played on a PSX or PS2 console. If you are
sharing a pirated rom chances are most of the people playing it via an
emulator is doing so for piracy reasons rather than legal backup or
emulation reasons. Its just one of those cases of knowing people are
pirating the game, but can't prove it without turning it over to the
legal authorities in your country. Something none of us wants to
happen right?

So, please, let's all just stop sharing the game roms etc. Some of you
may be legally sharing them among yourselves, and I'm certain some of
you don't own the games inquestion and are downloading the roms for
the soul purpose of pirating them illegally. The best thing to do is
take the rom sharing and game pirating elsewhere.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Thomas Ward
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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[Sky Mundell]

Hello Shane, three suggestions. One: in the installation dialogs, when you
install the game, could you add an option to install the game in a different
folder? That would be helpful as I am running windows 7 and I have all my
games on c:\users\user name\games\company\the name of the game
User name being mine, games is the folder, the company of the game, and the
game name. Second, when you play the game, could you create a .exe file that
will let us play the game without having to download the BGT program? And
third, when you are in the game, could you put warming sounds before you
fall into pits? For example in Super liam when you were about to fall into a
hazerd you would get two warming sounds. Thanks for developing the game, it
is awesome so far!

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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

How can it be improoved?

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone


> Hello Shane, thanks for the link. I was playing the game last night and I
> had a lot of fun with it. Did you develop the blind game in bgt? If so, I
> have a suggestion as to how it could be inprooved.
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Re: [Audyssey] super shot

[NIcol]

To add to what Tom and Charles said,  I played super shot many times and the
game worked fine for me so I do not understand what problem you are having.


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Sent: 29 March 2011 03:51 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] super shot

Hi,
Thanks but it didn't work. Will you please help me get it to work?
Thanks.
best regards,
Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] new psx game uploaded and v 1.0 of emulators tomorrow!

[NIcol]

Hi Mathias
I am not so clued up  with mainstream games and emulators so here is a
question from a newbee.
Are emulators programs that can make mainstream pc games more accessible?
I mean, if I legally  buy a  mainstream pc game such as Mario, is the
emulators you uploaded, there to make them more accessible?
Many thanks for any info. 

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Sent: 28 March 2011 12:00 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] new psx game uploaded and v 1.0 of emulators tomorrow!

new psx game uploaded: knockout kings 2000. boxing game.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/KNOCKOUT_KINGS_2000.cdz
version 1.0 of the emulators collection is ready.
you will be able to download it only tomorrow though,
because i won't use dropbox, i'll use a friend's website, and that's the
last time
that the link will change. from now on you will be able to download
it from the same address. it will be much better.
changelog:
V 1.0 - March 28, 2011
*Added some new emulators: pcsx2, chankast, Fusion.
*Corrected the Readme.
*Updated the credits section.
*Added some more sites to download roms.
hope you guys like the new changes.

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Re: [Audyssey] super shot game is here

[NIcol]

What is the exact error you get when you try to download it?

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It won't let me donwload it.

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Subject: [Audyssey] super shot game is here


> Hi list
> For those of you who requested the supershot game, here is the link.
> http://www.sendspace.com/file/39r01d
> I only have the setup file for the demo which excludes the bonus level.
> It would be nice if liam can have us play the bonus level, but if this is
> not possible, I'll understand.
> Tdl maze game is coming.
> Happy gaming!
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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

[NIcol]

Hi Sky
IN the meantime, I can answer one of your questions:
For a game developer to be able to compile the game into a .exe file, he
needs at least bgt light.
So the reason why you need bgt to play battle zone is most likely because
shane cannot afford bgt light at this stage.
The bgt demo cannot compile executables.
I haven't played battle zone yet, but it seems easy to play battle zone
although its not an executable due to the fact that bgt is so small.
So I don't think there is any hassles that a .exe file does not have. hth 
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Sent: 29 March 2011 06:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

Hello Shane, three suggestions. One: in the installation dialogs, when you
install the game, could you add an option to install the game in a different
folder? That would be helpful as I am running windows 7 and I have all my
games on c:\users\user name\games\company\the name of the game
User name being mine, games is the folder, the company of the game, and the
game name. Second, when you play the game, could you create a .exe file that
will let us play the game without having to download the BGT program? And
third, when you are in the game, could you put warming sounds before you
fall into pits? For example in Super liam when you were about to fall into a
hazerd you would get two warming sounds. Thanks for developing the game, it
is awesome so far!

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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

How can it be improoved?

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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone


> Hello Shane, thanks for the link. I was playing the game last night and I
> had a lot of fun with it. Did you develop the blind game in bgt? If so, I
> have a suggestion as to how it could be inprooved.
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Re: [Audyssey] new psx game uploaded and v 1.0 of emulatorstomorrow!

[dark]

Hi Nicol.

An emulator is a program designed to pretend to be another piece of hardware 
running on your pc.


If you wanted for instance, you could run a comador 64 computer emulator and 
use it's word processer function.


However, obviously the thing people most want to do with emulators is 
emulate games consoles or computer systems of the past and run games.


Thus, when running correctly, an emulator gets you precisely the same as 
you'd get if you physically had a nes, snes, ps1 or whatever.


They thus don't specifically help with access, sinse unfortunately it's not 
possible to read the graphically emulated text with your pc screen reader 
(if it was that would be awsome, but sadly no).


So, emulators are basically just another way of playing mainstream games, 
and one which, as Tom says is of dubious legality.


I personally haven't run that many emulators, simply because I prefer to 
play games on original consoles and sinse I have a perfectly working Snes 
gamecube and Mega drive there really is no need for me to.


beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:12 AM
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emulatorstomorrow!




Hi Mathias
I am not so clued up  with mainstream games and emulators so here is a
question from a newbee.
Are emulators programs that can make mainstream pc games more accessible?
I mean, if I legally  buy a  mainstream pc game such as Mario, is the
emulators you uploaded, there to make them more accessible?
Many thanks for any info.

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Matheus r.c. souza
Sent: 28 March 2011 12:00 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] new psx game uploaded and v 1.0 of emulators tomorrow!

new psx game uploaded: knockout kings 2000. boxing game.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/KNOCKOUT_KINGS_2000.cdz
version 1.0 of the emulators collection is ready.
you will be able to download it only tomorrow though,
because i won't use dropbox, i'll use a friend's website, and that's the
last time
that the link will change. from now on you will be able to download
it from the same address. it will be much better.
changelog:
V 1.0 - March 28, 2011
*Added some new emulators: pcsx2, chankast, Fusion.
*Corrected the Readme.
*Updated the credits section.
*Added some more sites to download roms.
hope you guys like the new changes.

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[Audyssey] scc RE: light battles

[NIcol]

As for scc, firstly I do not know where you can get it legally.
And secondly, it has been mentioned here before that distributing scc is
illegal. hth

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jack F
Sent: 27 March 2011 09:09 PM
To: gamers
Subject: [Audyssey] light battles

Hi Shane,
Due to serious technical difficulties, light battles development has
stopped. How ever, lighttech is working on a better starwoars project
gd quest. I don't know when it will be released but it's still in
development. I don't know about super liam2. I'll ask Liam about it
but I don't think it's abandoned. Anyone wanting to know about
chillingham2 the game is still in development. It is still in it's
early days of development, so don't expect the game to come out soon.
Development probably might have been placed on hold, and that might
also be the case for super liam2. Now could anyone send me scc and
maze game?
Thanks.
best regards,
jack

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Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles

[william lomas]

lol it has taken them five years to do nothing 
oh well move on I suppose to the real gamers out there especially now BGT is 
out 

On 28 Mar 2011, at 18:05, Bryan Peterson wrote:

> Well if that ever does prove to be true then good. But I kinda wonder if you 
> got the joke.
> We are the Knights who say...Ni!
> - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" 
> 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles
> 
> 
>> Good. The good thing is that they pulled themselves out of the whole and are 
>> ready again.
>> - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" 
>> To: "The Addictor" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Ken,
>>> 
>>> Oh, yeah! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Did you hear Chillingham 2 is going
>>> to be out sometime this lifetime? Ho Hho ho ho ho ho ho ho! Ha ha ha
>>> ha ha he he he he! Yeah, its coming out real soon! It is going to
>>> bring Bavisoft back to the forefront of accessible game developers! Ha
>>> ha ha ha ha ha! Not!
>>> 
>>> Ahem...Now, that we got that childish glee out of the way you are
>>> absolutely right. Not going to happen in this lifetime. Bavisoft is a
>>> done deal. We might as well hang them up as a lost cause. Stick a fork
>>> in them because they are done. As far as I'm concerned Chillingham and
>>> Grizzly Gulch are abandonware.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/28/11, The Addictor  wrote:
 Chillingham!  Ha ha ha ha ha!  Coming out soon!
 Hee hee hee hee!  Oh my!  Thanks for the gut-busting laugh!  Ha ha ha ha!
 Ouch!  My ribs hurt now!  Ha ha ha!  Oh my!  Ho ho ho!  Oh I've got tears 
 in
 my eyes I'm laughing so hard!  ROFL
 
 Ken Downey
 The Addictor
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