[Audyssey] Crossword Puzzles?
Are there accessible crossword puzles? I don't mind freeware or shareware. Thanks! -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Vip Games Zone
i tried most or all of teir games and they're just not for me for a few reasons. 1. They all use synthetic speech, Microsoft Text to Speech, the ones with Mike, Mary and Sam. Other companies choose to use either better synthetic speech or pre-recorded human speech. 2. I don't like their registration system. You even have to be online to register and even activate demo mode. I would rather have playable demos where no internet connection is required. Super Tennis is one exception but can't get the hang of that. 3. While they do free offerings, they don't last five minutes with me. Take Mortal Maze for example. I got bored even after playing for a couple of minutes. I do however like Keyboard Crazy. Just some thoughts from a gamer. -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Vip Games Zone
Hi Chris, I for one agree with you. I've never been afan of their games either. I tried them when they came out, and found them lacking. I just could not get into them either. On 6/10/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: i tried most or all of teir games and they're just not for me for a few reasons. 1. They all use synthetic speech, Microsoft Text to Speech, the ones with Mike, Mary and Sam. Other companies choose to use either better synthetic speech or pre-recorded human speech. 2. I don't like their registration system. You even have to be online to register and even activate demo mode. I would rather have playable demos where no internet connection is required. Super Tennis is one exception but can't get the hang of that. 3. While they do free offerings, they don't last five minutes with me. Take Mortal Maze for example. I got bored even after playing for a couple of minutes. I do however like Keyboard Crazy. Just some thoughts from a gamer. -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Crossword Puzzles?
Hi Chris, As a matter of fact there is. Spoonbill Software has an accessible crossword puzzle game, BG Crossword, which is fully accessible. On 6/10/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Are there accessible crossword puzles? I don't mind freeware or shareware. Thanks! -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Vip Games Zone
Hi, I found another big problem with these games. You can use your registration keys on another computer, but you have to unregister the games on the old computer first. The problem with that is, that when for example you old computer simply dies and you can no longer access it, you have to write to Vipgameszone to have your games unregistered with them so you can install them on your new computer. That's exactly what happened to me and I think that's an unnecessary unconvenience. After all, other game developers show that there are other ways for handling registration of games. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with TTS for Windows.
Hi Michael, Do you Mean Microsoft Anna?? If so when was the last time you remember it working? The reason I ask is if you can remember the last time it was working you may be able to fix the problem by running a Restore Point and roll back to an earlier restore point which may or may not fix the problem. The only other option here is to insert your Windows 7 DVD in your drive and have it repair your installation of SAPI. Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't offer a download of the SAPI 5.4 voices and components separately so its tricky to fix it if and when it gets broken. Of course, now that I remember it the delusrlex.exe program on Jim Kitchen's site also might resolve the problem too. HTH On 6/10/13, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. I am using Windows 7 32bit, and I need to be able to use the TTS engine that comes with 7 so I can play Entomb. However my TTS does not start talking when the game comes up. I went to narrator and it said unhandle exception. How can I fix my TTS engine on Windows 7? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
The only time I draw the line with non installers is for drivers because if and when hardware doesn't work as it should you need to use windows crappy hardware management control panels to find your driver. your installer will install the drivers, all of them and when you plug in the hardware it just works. At 04:54 PM 6/10/2013, you wrote: Hi Zack, Yeah, I didn't think it would be a big problem for most people, but there is always the occasional newbie who doesn't know much about their computer and would prefer an all in one setup program that just puts everything where it goes automatically rather than reading a readme file that tells them how to manually install said program. That said, using zip files are pretty much supported by every OS, and can be easily unzipped and installed into the user's directory without any extra effort or work on my part. I don't have to worry about creating special environment variables for each platform, and I don't have to worry about different directory structures because the entire program will be self-contained in its own little directory inside your home or user directory. As for Mac support unfortunately I am unable to release a Mac version currently, but I have been working towards that eventual goal. What my basic plan towards Mac support is to get the Windows and Linux versions ready for release, sell a few copies, and then put some of the money from that towards a new Macbook and then do whatever is necessary to port the game to Mac which should bring in even more money for the product. Once I have the right hardware and software then I can write any Mac and iOS games I want. :D Cheers! On 6/10/13, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Frankly, given Jeremy's success, I would suggest that this isn't a serious problem. A zip file is universal, and if that would make it easier to support something cross-platform I'm all for it. Incidentally, I am guessing your plans do not include a Mac version of this game, at least not of the beta? I did recently installed windows on another partition, so I can always use that. All the best, Zack. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] life
Hi. jim just updated life. I have both win xp and 7 on 2 systems. I am getting an error 5 after the first round of gameplay, am not sure why. never happened before I upgraded. the menu program is good. its runtime error 5 by the way. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Vip Games Zone
Oh yes there's that I have a problem with as well. Chris On 10/06/2013 10:09, Sarah Haake wrote: Hi, I found another big problem with these games. You can use your registration keys on another computer, but you have to unregister the games on the old computer first. The problem with that is, that when for example you old computer simply dies and you can no longer access it, you have to write to Vipgameszone to have your games unregistered with them so you can install them on your new computer. That's exactly what happened to me and I think that's an unnecessary unconvenience. After all, other game developers show that there are other ways for handling registration of games. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Crossword Puzzles?
Oh yes, must check out their games at some point. Cheers for the reminder! Chris On 10/06/2013 09:27, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Chris, As a matter of fact there is. Spoonbill Software has an accessible crossword puzzle game, BG Crossword, which is fully accessible. On 6/10/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Are there accessible crossword puzles? I don't mind freeware or shareware. Thanks! -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Other places that deal with this have different downloads on there site like download for windows here, linix here and other here. They do that so each offering can address the differences that go with that op. And the question is not to us really but to you as in how much time you want to give to supporting the install? Instead of just letting your web page do it for you. At 11:57 PM 6/9/2013, you wrote: Hi all, Over the last couple of months or so I've been busy as a bee porting Mysteries of the Ancients etc over to my cross-platform Evolution engine, and now I am busy writing the documentation for the new cross-platform beta of Mysteries of the Ancients which I hope to have out sometime this summer. However, as I've been porting the code, testing it on multiple operating systems, etc I need to decide upon the method of installation for the game. So here is the deal. One issue I am experiencing with the cross-platform version of a game like Mysteries of the Ancients is that every operating system has its own directory structure, its own special place for storing files, which means I have to constantly change the directory paths for my files every time I compile it on a different OS. For example, on Windows saved games should go in c:\Users\user name\Application Data\MOTA, but on Linux it would go in /home/user name/.mota. Its not difficult to support both, but an easier way is just to keep everything in a single directory and run it from your home directory on Linux or from your User directory on Windows. There is a similar issue with things like sound and music. Typically on Windows a game's sounds and music would be in the same directory as the executable like c:\Program Files\Mysteries of the Ancients\Sounds or c:\Program Files\Mysteries of the Ancients\Music, but Linux has a totally different directory structure where files should go. For example, the manual would go in /usr/shared/docs/MOTA, the sounds in /usr/MOTA/Sounds, the music would go in /usr/MOTA/Music, and the executable goes in /usr/bin. In short, there is no middle ground in terms of where files would go just because they are totally different. The easiest solution I can see for this problem is to simply zip the game up, and rather than installing it you would extract the contents to c:\Users\user name\MOTA on Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 and would unzip them in /home/user name/MOTA on Linux. That way I can keep all the files together, not worry about different environment variables or different directory paths, and of course not have to worry about things like User Account Control griping about saving files to the program directory. While this method seems to work well for Jeremy Kaldobsky, AKA Aprone, I am worried that some users would want an actual installer like Inno Setup rather than unzipping and manually installing the program themselves. I can do that, of course, but I'd prefer not have to unless it is necessary. Any thoughts, opinions, or suggestions about this issue? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Walkthroughs
Is there a directory of the first seventeen mission walkthroughs? If so, can someone post the link? Thanks, Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Thomas, In my opinion there are pros and cons to each. If you decide to go with the installer, you can have it automatically set up program icons, desktop shortcuts, dependencies, etc. On the other hand, you'd need to build an installer for each os. If you decide that zip is the way to go, I can guarantee that you'll have people running the game from within the archive. You'll also have people who don't install any dependencies, and there won't be any shortcuts for easy access. I guess in the long run it comes down to what type of computer user you want to target the game towards. If you decide that you want it to be newbie-friendly then you pretty much have to use an installer. If you don't mind newbies having extra frustrations to deal with, then an archive will work. I personally would say that it's probably worth the extra time to create multiple installers, just to insure that everybody gets an equal experience. I'd also go so far as to say that using an archive is likely going to give you some headaches as far as debugging goes; there's no way to be sure where people are going to put the game's files. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 23:57:04 -0400 Subject: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations Hi all, Over the last couple of months or so I've been busy as a bee porting Mysteries of the Ancients etc over to my cross-platform Evolution engine, and now I am busy writing the documentation for the new cross-platform beta of Mysteries of the Ancients which I hope to have out sometime this summer. However, as I've been porting the code, testing it on multiple operating systems, etc I need to decide upon the method of installation for the game. So here is the deal. One issue I am experiencing with the cross-platform version of a game like Mysteries of the Ancients is that every operating system has its own directory structure, its own special place for storing files, which means I have to constantly change the directory paths for my files every time I compile it on a different OS. For example, on Windows saved games should go in c:\Users\user name\Application Data\MOTA, but on Linux it would go in /home/user name/.mota. Its not difficult to support both, but an easier way is just to keep everything in a single directory and run it from your home directory on Linux or from your User directory on Windows. There is a similar issue with things like sound and music. Typically on Windows a game's sounds and music would be in the same directory as the executable like c:\Program Files\Mysteries of the Ancients\Sounds or c:\Program Files\Mysteries of the Ancients\Music, but Linux has a totally different directory structure where files should go. For example, the manual would go in /usr/shared/docs/MOTA, the sounds in /usr/MOTA/Sounds, the music would go in /usr/MOTA/Music, and the executable goes in /usr/bin. In short, there is no middle ground in terms of where files would go just because they are totally different. The easiest solution I can see for this problem is to simply zip the game up, and rather than installing it you would extract the contents to c:\Users\user name\MOTA on Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 and would unzip them in /home/user name/MOTA on Linux. That way I can keep all the files together, not worry about different environment variables or different directory paths, and of course not have to worry about things like User Account Control griping about saving files to the program directory. While this method seems to work well for Jeremy Kaldobsky, AKA Aprone, I am worried that some users would want an actual installer like Inno Setup rather than unzipping and manually installing the program themselves. I can do that, of course, but I'd prefer not have to unless it is necessary. Any thoughts, opinions, or suggestions about this issue? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] life
Hi Shaun, Bummer! I have played many games of life on both of my computers with no errors at all. But you are the second person to report that error. Thank you for letting me know that the game menu program works. That tells me that it is probably not the writing to the documents\kitchensinc folder thing. May I ask, are you getting that error on both computers? Are you using a single or multiple voices? Did you play one player against a bot, or against other players. Thanks Shaun, Hopefully with some answers and going back through the code I might be able to figure something out. Pretty confused though as I didn't touch the main code of the game. Oh yeah, could you tell me if in your documents\kitchensinc folder it did create the game menu files and the start of the lifelog.txt file? BFN Jim There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one works. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Speaking of a readme file, why are they always included in the installation package rather than separately? To me, the instructions on how to install something should be able to be read before, rather than after, installation has been completed. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations Hi Zack, Yeah, I didn't think it would be a big problem for most people, but there is always the occasional newbie who doesn't know much about their computer and would prefer an all in one setup program that just puts everything where it goes automatically rather than reading a readme file that tells them how to manually install said program. That said, using zip files are pretty much supported by every OS, and can be easily unzipped and installed into the user's directory without any extra effort or work on my part. I don't have to worry about creating special environment variables for each platform, and I don't have to worry about different directory structures because the entire program will be self-contained in its own little directory inside your home or user directory. As for Mac support unfortunately I am unable to release a Mac version currently, but I have been working towards that eventual goal. What my basic plan towards Mac support is to get the Windows and Linux versions ready for release, sell a few copies, and then put some of the money from that towards a new Macbook and then do whatever is necessary to port the game to Mac which should bring in even more money for the product. Once I have the right hardware and software then I can write any Mac and iOS games I want. :D Cheers! On 6/10/13, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Frankly, given Jeremy's success, I would suggest that this isn't a serious problem. A zip file is universal, and if that would make it easier to support something cross-platform I'm all for it. Incidentally, I am guessing your plans do not include a Mac version of this game, at least not of the beta? I did recently installed windows on another partition, so I can always use that. All the best, Zack. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Crossword Puzzles?
Spoonbill Software has an accessible crossword puzzle game. Note puzzle, not puzle. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Crossword Puzzles? Are there accessible crossword puzles? I don't mind freeware or shareware. Thanks! -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Separate downloads for each platform is a good idea. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations Other places that deal with this have different downloads on there site like download for windows here, linix here and other here. They do that so each offering can address the differences that go with that op. And the question is not to us really but to you as in how much time you want to give to supporting the install? Instead of just letting your web page do it for you. At 11:57 PM 6/9/2013, you wrote: Hi all, Over the last couple of months or so I've been busy as a bee porting Mysteries of the Ancients etc over to my cross-platform Evolution engine, and now I am busy writing the documentation for the new cross-platform beta of Mysteries of the Ancients which I hope to have out sometime this summer. However, as I've been porting the code, testing it on multiple operating systems, etc I need to decide upon the method of installation for the game. So here is the deal. One issue I am experiencing with the cross-platform version of a game like Mysteries of the Ancients is that every operating system has its own directory structure, its own special place for storing files, which means I have to constantly change the directory paths for my files every time I compile it on a different OS. For example, on Windows saved games should go in c:\Users\user name\Application Data\MOTA, but on Linux it would go in /home/user name/.mota. Its not difficult to support both, but an easier way is just to keep everything in a single directory and run it from your home directory on Linux or from your User directory on Windows. There is a similar issue with things like sound and music. Typically on Windows a game's sounds and music would be in the same directory as the executable like c:\Program Files\Mysteries of the Ancients\Sounds or c:\Program Files\Mysteries of the Ancients\Music, but Linux has a totally different directory structure where files should go. For example, the manual would go in /usr/shared/docs/MOTA, the sounds in /usr/MOTA/Sounds, the music would go in /usr/MOTA/Music, and the executable goes in /usr/bin. In short, there is no middle ground in terms of where files would go just because they are totally different. The easiest solution I can see for this problem is to simply zip the game up, and rather than installing it you would extract the contents to c:\Users\user name\MOTA on Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 and would unzip them in /home/user name/MOTA on Linux. That way I can keep all the files together, not worry about different environment variables or different directory paths, and of course not have to worry about things like User Account Control griping about saving files to the program directory. While this method seems to work well for Jeremy Kaldobsky, AKA Aprone, I am worried that some users would want an actual installer like Inno Setup rather than unzipping and manually installing the program themselves. I can do that, of course, but I'd prefer not have to unless it is necessary. Any thoughts, opinions, or suggestions about this issue? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] jim's games work!
hi jim's games finally work! and I think I know why. it is because I installed swamp and ran the 64bit .bat file that registered some files needed for playing ganes. hey jim I think you should download and install swamp on your system, and then go into the swamp folder look at that .bat file and include the .bat file and the other files in your games! I am so so so so happy! I finally got your games working in windows7! yay! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Good question and I have ben asking that sense dos days. At 09:44 AM 6/10/2013, you wrote: Speaking of a readme file, why are they always included in the installation package rather than separately? To me, the instructions on how to install something should be able to be read before, rather than after, installation has been completed. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations Hi Zack, Yeah, I didn't think it would be a big problem for most people, but there is always the occasional newbie who doesn't know much about their computer and would prefer an all in one setup program that just puts everything where it goes automatically rather than reading a readme file that tells them how to manually install said program. That said, using zip files are pretty much supported by every OS, and can be easily unzipped and installed into the user's directory without any extra effort or work on my part. I don't have to worry about creating special environment variables for each platform, and I don't have to worry about different directory structures because the entire program will be self-contained in its own little directory inside your home or user directory. As for Mac support unfortunately I am unable to release a Mac version currently, but I have been working towards that eventual goal. What my basic plan towards Mac support is to get the Windows and Linux versions ready for release, sell a few copies, and then put some of the money from that towards a new Macbook and then do whatever is necessary to port the game to Mac which should bring in even more money for the product. Once I have the right hardware and software then I can write any Mac and iOS games I want. :D Cheers! On 6/10/13, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Frankly, given Jeremy's success, I would suggest that this isn't a serious problem. A zip file is universal, and if that would make it easier to support something cross-platform I'm all for it. Incidentally, I am guessing your plans do not include a Mac version of this game, at least not of the beta? I did recently installed windows on another partition, so I can always use that. All the best, Zack. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Light games
where can i find these On 6/9/13, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, Lite Cars is my favorite as well. I actually like the classic mode better than the arcade mode, for some odd reason. I think it's probably because it has more of a retro feel. Plus, it's easier to get to a really high level in that mode. I also very much enjoy Lite Locator when I'm bored. Playing that game a few times is entertaining. As for Treasure Mania, while I've played it a few times, I would need to refresh my memory on it. It's been several years since I attempted to play. On 6/9/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, I guess my favorite game of Lighttech's is Light Cars. I usually play that one once and a while when I get board, and see how many levels I get through before I crash. On 6/9/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: So, what games by Lighttech Interactive do you enjoy playing? I like all of them, but Treasure Mania will take some figuring out. Also with Blankblock I end up with what my friend describe as an l-shape. This means that in the top row, a1 to a3, there is one occupied block, followed by two blank ones. The other rows are filled with occupied blocks. I cannot move any pieces since I don't have enough points to do a move. The only way out is to quit the game. Any ideas? This is on Beginner skill level. On the whole these games despite being free are top quality, fun and never gets boring. -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] swamp rifle scopes
Is it just me or are the scopes no longer able to see/hear flies? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Trouble, That's not really the issue here. Of course each platform will have its own download links etc on the web site. However, I wanted to simplify the install process for myself as creating separate installers for every platform is a somewhat time consuming prospect. For instance, take Linux just as an example here. There is no single package manager or global installation method across Linux platforms. Red Hat based distributions use rpm, Debian based distributions use dpkg, Arch uses pacman, and so on. While packages can be converted using alien and so forth its really better to create an installer using the Linux distribution's native package manager from the beginning. Rather than do all that I think simply unzipping the contents in the end users home directory is the easiest solution to the problem. That doesn't even begin to touch upon the issue of different directory paths between platforms. That is to say files go in different places depending on platform, and while I can do it I am not convinced it is worth the extra time and effort to do it. :D Cheers! On 6/10/13, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Other places that deal with this have different downloads on there site like download for windows here, linix here and other here. They do that so each offering can address the differences that go with that op. And the question is not to us really but to you as in how much time you want to give to supporting the install? Instead of just letting your web page do it for you. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Charles, I wasn't planning on doing anything else. Of course, I will be offering separate downloads for each platform. What, you guys thought I'd bundle it all in one zip file? Cheers! On 6/10/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Separate downloads for each platform is a good idea. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The game of Life
hi jim. I installed the new game of life without installing the winkit first. it did not want to by default put its files in documents but I made it do so with the browse button. the games work fine now. somehow I think installing swamp and running the .bat file made your games work now also. On 6/9/2013 4:45 PM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi, I have put a new file up on my site. File Name; winlife4.exe File Size 369k bytes Version 4 of the game of Life and the game menu program should now write their files to your documents\Kitchensinc folder. And the game of Life now creates a log file lifelog.txt. The winlife4.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 35 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Charles, That's a good question. The only answer I can give is it has to do with the way the distribution of the software has changed. In the 90's you would buy your software on a floppy or CD, and of course the readme file was right there in the root directory of your floppy or CD. Now days most of the software you buy can be downloaded from the developer's site, and while they come with readme files some developers either forget or don't think about the fact they need to give a person a copy separately from the installer. :D Cheers! On 6/10/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Speaking of a readme file, why are they always included in the installation package rather than separately? To me, the instructions on how to install something should be able to be read before, rather than after, installation has been completed. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Light games
www.lighttechinteractive.com Chris On 10/06/2013 15:23, lenron brown wrote: where can i find these On 6/9/13, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, Lite Cars is my favorite as well. I actually like the classic mode better than the arcade mode, for some odd reason. I think it's probably because it has more of a retro feel. Plus, it's easier to get to a really high level in that mode. I also very much enjoy Lite Locator when I'm bored. Playing that game a few times is entertaining. As for Treasure Mania, while I've played it a few times, I would need to refresh my memory on it. It's been several years since I attempted to play. On 6/9/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, I guess my favorite game of Lighttech's is Light Cars. I usually play that one once and a while when I get board, and see how many levels I get through before I crash. On 6/9/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: So, what games by Lighttech Interactive do you enjoy playing? I like all of them, but Treasure Mania will take some figuring out. Also with Blankblock I end up with what my friend describe as an l-shape. This means that in the top row, a1 to a3, there is one occupied block, followed by two blank ones. The other rows are filled with occupied blocks. I cannot move any pieces since I don't have enough points to do a move. The only way out is to quit the game. Any ideas? This is on Beginner skill level. On the whole these games despite being free are top quality, fun and never gets boring. -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Trouble, That's precisely my concern. Newbies are, well, newbies and they are bound to make newbie mistakes that may cause problems running my games. I could easily see someone writing me saying they got such and such an error running my games, I ask them if they installed SDL, and they say no because they didn't know how to. Things like this can easily be resolved by a installer using Inno Setup etc. The only thing is if I do all that then I'm going to have to add platform specific environment variables to save games etc because each and every platform is different. I didn't want to deal with all that BS, but you are probably right it would be worth doing after the game is out of beta stage. Cheers! On 6/10/13, john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Thomas, In my opinion there are pros and cons to each. If you decide to go with the installer, you can have it automatically set up program icons, desktop shortcuts, dependencies, etc. On the other hand, you'd need to build an installer for each os. If you decide that zip is the way to go, I can guarantee that you'll have people running the game from within the archive. You'll also have people who don't install any dependencies, and there won't be any shortcuts for easy access. I guess in the long run it comes down to what type of computer user you want to target the game towards. If you decide that you want it to be newbie-friendly then you pretty much have to use an installer. If you don't mind newbies having extra frustrations to deal with, then an archive will work. I personally would say that it's probably worth the extra time to create multiple installers, just to insure that everybody gets an equal experience. I'd also go so far as to say that using an archive is likely going to give you some headaches as far as debugging goes; there's no way to be sure where people are going to put the game's files. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Light games
Hi Lenron, Go to http://www.lighttechinteractive.com for the Lighttech games. On 6/10/13, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: where can i find these --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
For some reason, your reply made me crack up. I knew better. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations Hi Charles, I wasn't planning on doing anything else. Of course, I will be offering separate downloads for each platform. What, you guys thought I'd bundle it all in one zip file? Cheers! On 6/10/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Separate downloads for each platform is a good idea. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Charles, OK, looks like I fell for it as I thought you were serious. :D Cheers! On 6/10/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: For some reason, your reply made me crack up. I knew better. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] jim's games and espeak
hi I am also happy to say that after installing swamp and running the .bat file that coppies and registers some .dll files jim kitchen's games well jim your games work great! oh and guess what if I use espeak to play the games they are fast and responsive, and reminds me of playing old dos games. they work perfect! and I hope they will work with windows8 and beyond after first installing swamp and registering 3 or 4 dll files. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Gotcha. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations Hi Charles, OK, looks like I fell for it as I thought you were serious. :D Cheers! On 6/10/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: For some reason, your reply made me crack up. I knew better. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Thomas, I don't know if it's quite the same, but when the most recent version of entombed was released there was an issue with the installer where by it downloaded the SQL, but then the user needed to go in and manually install the file. There were from memory absolutely loads of people that couldn't get entombed to work when this new installer came out and the mailing list was full of people trying to get the game to run. the issue still comes up from time to time on the mailing list from new players who can't get it to run. Although that being said I don't hink that there is a read me document that explains how to do it anywhere in the installer either which might be more of the reason that people couldn't get it to work. Hope that helps Paul but then you that) -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 June 2013 15:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations Hi Trouble, That's precisely my concern. Newbies are, well, newbies and they are bound to make newbie mistakes that may cause problems running my games. I could easily see someone writing me saying they got such and such an error running my games, I ask them if they installed SDL, and they say no because they didn't know how to. Things like this can easily be resolved by a installer using Inno Setup etc. The only thing is if I do all that then I'm going to have to add platform specific environment variables to save games etc because each and every platform is different. I didn't want to deal with all that BS, but you are probably right it would be worth doing after the game is out of beta stage. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Vip Games Zone
For the most part, I agree with you guys. Crazy Tennis was a fun little time-waster, though. I thought that beach volleyball would have been a cool concept, but I thought it was overpriced, so I never purchased it. And, given the fact I didn't really care for their other games, I didn't want to spend money on something I probably would have found lacking. On 6/10/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, I for one agree with you. I've never been afan of their games either. I tried them when they came out, and found them lacking. I just could not get into them either. On 6/10/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: i tried most or all of teir games and they're just not for me for a few reasons. 1. They all use synthetic speech, Microsoft Text to Speech, the ones with Mike, Mary and Sam. Other companies choose to use either better synthetic speech or pre-recorded human speech. 2. I don't like their registration system. You even have to be online to register and even activate demo mode. I would rather have playable demos where no internet connection is required. Super Tennis is one exception but can't get the hang of that. 3. While they do free offerings, they don't last five minutes with me. Take Mortal Maze for example. I got bored even after playing for a couple of minutes. I do however like Keyboard Crazy. Just some thoughts from a gamer. -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] R: Vip Games Zone
Crazy tennis is nice! I quite like it. Angela from Italy -Messaggio originale- Da: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] Per conto di Desiree Oudinot Inviato: lunedì 10 giugno 2013 20:29 A: Gamers Discussion list Oggetto: Re: [Audyssey] Vip Games Zone For the most part, I agree with you guys. Crazy Tennis was a fun little time-waster, though. I thought that beach volleyball would have been a cool concept, but I thought it was overpriced, so I never purchased it. And, given the fact I didn't really care for their other games, I didn't want to spend money on something I probably would have found lacking. On 6/10/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, I for one agree with you. I've never been afan of their games either. I tried them when they came out, and found them lacking. I just could not get into them either. On 6/10/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: i tried most or all of teir games and they're just not for me for a few reasons. 1. They all use synthetic speech, Microsoft Text to Speech, the ones with Mike, Mary and Sam. Other companies choose to use either better synthetic speech or pre-recorded human speech. 2. I don't like their registration system. You even have to be online to register and even activate demo mode. I would rather have playable demos where no internet connection is required. Super Tennis is one exception but can't get the hang of that. 3. While they do free offerings, they don't last five minutes with me. Take Mortal Maze for example. I got bored even after playing for a couple of minutes. I do however like Keyboard Crazy. Just some thoughts from a gamer. -- Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid824d-6 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Tom, You should also consider the likelihood of newbiews on a per OS basis. From your comments it sounds more difficult to try to handle an installer for the different linux distributions. But linux users are also more likely to be power users who have no problem unzipping files. So perhaps you could do a simple zip archive for all linux users with a readme to explain installing dependencies and you could do an installer for windows users. Personally I just do a zip file and try to document installing dependencies. But this is partially because of my lack of experience in creating an installer. Ian Reed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The game of Life
Hi Josh, Cool, thanks for letting me know that my game of Life runs for you. But I have not tried to change where the games get installed, only where they write their files. If you check you should now see in your documents\kitchensinc folder files such as life.cfg, lifelog.txt, gamemenu.txt etc. BFN - Original Message - hi jim. I installed the new game of life without installing the winkit first. it did not want to by default put its files in documents but I made it do so with the browse button. the games work fine now. somehow I think installing swamp and running the .bat file made your games work now also. Jim Check my web site for my 35 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's games work!
Hi Josh, Cool! I'm glad to hear that you got my games working. But you know that installing my winkit.zip setup.exe has gotten my games working for others running Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8 as it installs the VB6 run time libraries and other files. BFN - Original Message - hi jim's games finally work! and I think I know why. it is because I installed swamp and ran the 64bit .bat file that registered some files needed for playing ganes. hey jim I think you should download and install swamp on your system, and then go into the swamp folder look at that .bat file and include the .bat file and the other files in your games! I am so so so so happy! I finally got your games working in windows7! yay! --- Jim Check my web site for my 35 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] life
Interesting you should mention that jim. both of my boxes 7 and xp are x86 boxes no idea about x64 boxes but yeah both have the error. the first round runs ok but after that well. on a side note I deleted all of the life files including the brf records file and reinstalled the game and it works. I assume my other box will work to. Ok. did a test again. Error still comes. Note does not seem to be a problem if 2 human players play but if a computer player plays either on single player 1 human and 1 bot or 2 or more humans and 1 bot the bot crashes the game. so your computer ai player is the ariea with the error at least thats what it looks like. oh and killing the files I mentioned doesn't work. You can get round the error if you play each player manually and never using the automatic ai apponant as a player. Its not that bad but ofcause without the ai offcause you tend to play to your advantage. At 01:36 AM 6/11/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Bummer! I have played many games of life on both of my computers with no errors at all. But you are the second person to report that error. Thank you for letting me know that the game menu program works. That tells me that it is probably not the writing to the documents\kitchensinc folder thing. May I ask, are you getting that error on both computers? Are you using a single or multiple voices? Did you play one player against a bot, or against other players. Thanks Shaun, Hopefully with some answers and going back through the code I might be able to figure something out. Pretty confused though as I didn't touch the main code of the game. Oh yeah, could you tell me if in your documents\kitchensinc folder it did create the game menu files and the start of the lifelog.txt file? BFN Jim There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one works. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
tom why not have a componant checker and installer, that would have websetups for all dotnets directx runtimes, etc in it and other dll files whatever needed for your games and check for these. if the versions are not current or older than the programs then run them. if newer or the same don't. on windows, dotnet is loaded by default, c libs may not be however in windows for all my boxes I have loaded dotnet everything as a lot of stuff uses it. if there are any extras they can be installed by the program. Kinda like the old days. you installed your programs say a game like doom in dos, it would have a setup program which would load extra componants and configure the game its sort a something like that. At 02:57 AM 6/11/2013, you wrote: Hi Trouble, That's precisely my concern. Newbies are, well, newbies and they are bound to make newbie mistakes that may cause problems running my games. I could easily see someone writing me saying they got such and such an error running my games, I ask them if they installed SDL, and they say no because they didn't know how to. Things like this can easily be resolved by a installer using Inno Setup etc. The only thing is if I do all that then I'm going to have to add platform specific environment variables to save games etc because each and every platform is different. I didn't want to deal with all that BS, but you are probably right it would be worth doing after the game is out of beta stage. Cheers! On 6/10/13, john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Thomas, In my opinion there are pros and cons to each. If you decide to go with the installer, you can have it automatically set up program icons, desktop shortcuts, dependencies, etc. On the other hand, you'd need to build an installer for each os. If you decide that zip is the way to go, I can guarantee that you'll have people running the game from within the archive. You'll also have people who don't install any dependencies, and there won't be any shortcuts for easy access. I guess in the long run it comes down to what type of computer user you want to target the game towards. If you decide that you want it to be newbie-friendly then you pretty much have to use an installer. If you don't mind newbies having extra frustrations to deal with, then an archive will work. I personally would say that it's probably worth the extra time to create multiple installers, just to insure that everybody gets an equal experience. I'd also go so far as to say that using an archive is likely going to give you some headaches as far as debugging goes; there's no way to be sure where people are going to put the game's files. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
yeah entombed inosetup scripts detected sql was loaded but not its service pack number. you had to uninstall sql first then load in the installer with new sql from entombed setup which would then detect you didn't have sql. The setup should have detected updated or uninstalled then reinstalled but this is not the ms installer. At 05:51 AM 6/11/2013, you wrote: Hi Thomas, I don't know if it's quite the same, but when the most recent version of entombed was released there was an issue with the installer where by it downloaded the SQL, but then the user needed to go in and manually install the file. There were from memory absolutely loads of people that couldn't get entombed to work when this new installer came out and the mailing list was full of people trying to get the game to run. the issue still comes up from time to time on the mailing list from new players who can't get it to run. Although that being said I don't hink that there is a read me document that explains how to do it anywhere in the installer either which might be more of the reason that people couldn't get it to work. Hope that helps Paul but then you that) -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 June 2013 15:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations Hi Trouble, That's precisely my concern. Newbies are, well, newbies and they are bound to make newbie mistakes that may cause problems running my games. I could easily see someone writing me saying they got such and such an error running my games, I ask them if they installed SDL, and they say no because they didn't know how to. Things like this can easily be resolved by a installer using Inno Setup etc. The only thing is if I do all that then I'm going to have to add platform specific environment variables to save games etc because each and every platform is different. I didn't want to deal with all that BS, but you are probably right it would be worth doing after the game is out of beta stage. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
true but you could just do what jeremy did and put all you need in a batch file which the user runs in admin mode. At 06:48 AM 6/11/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom, You should also consider the likelihood of newbiews on a per OS basis. From your comments it sounds more difficult to try to handle an installer for the different linux distributions. But linux users are also more likely to be power users who have no problem unzipping files. So perhaps you could do a simple zip archive for all linux users with a readme to explain installing dependencies and you could do an installer for windows users. Personally I just do a zip file and try to document installing dependencies. But this is partially because of my lack of experience in creating an installer. Ian Reed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's games work!
yep, but for some reason the winkit.zip file never got your games working on my system. the only thing that makes them work is getting swamp and running the .bat file. then they work. On 6/10/2013 6:41 PM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Josh, Cool! I'm glad to hear that you got my games working. But you know that installing my winkit.zip setup.exe has gotten my games working for others running Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8 as it installs the VB6 run time libraries and other files. BFN - Original Message - hi jim's games finally work! and I think I know why. it is because I installed swamp and ran the 64bit .bat file that registered some files needed for playing ganes. hey jim I think you should download and install swamp on your system, and then go into the swamp folder look at that .bat file and include the .bat file and the other files in your games! I am so so so so happy! I finally got your games working in windows7! yay! --- Jim Check my web site for my 35 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The game of Life
well anyway you might want to change everything. my system is a well strange setup with windows7 in ootcamp on a macbook pro. all your games everything is in the my documents folder and they work. On 6/10/2013 6:41 PM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Josh, Cool, thanks for letting me know that my game of Life runs for you. But I have not tried to change where the games get installed, only where they write their files. If you check you should now see in your documents\kitchensinc folder files such as life.cfg, lifelog.txt, gamemenu.txt etc. BFN - Original Message - hi jim. I installed the new game of life without installing the winkit first. it did not want to by default put its files in documents but I made it do so with the browse button. the games work fine now. somehow I think installing swamp and running the .bat file made your games work now also. Jim Check my web site for my 35 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] life
from whare can i get the update? ill test it on windows8 On 6/11/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting you should mention that jim. both of my boxes 7 and xp are x86 boxes no idea about x64 boxes but yeah both have the error. the first round runs ok but after that well. on a side note I deleted all of the life files including the brf records file and reinstalled the game and it works. I assume my other box will work to. Ok. did a test again. Error still comes. Note does not seem to be a problem if 2 human players play but if a computer player plays either on single player 1 human and 1 bot or 2 or more humans and 1 bot the bot crashes the game. so your computer ai player is the ariea with the error at least thats what it looks like. oh and killing the files I mentioned doesn't work. You can get round the error if you play each player manually and never using the automatic ai apponant as a player. Its not that bad but ofcause without the ai offcause you tend to play to your advantage. At 01:36 AM 6/11/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Bummer! I have played many games of life on both of my computers with no errors at all. But you are the second person to report that error. Thank you for letting me know that the game menu program works. That tells me that it is probably not the writing to the documents\kitchensinc folder thing. May I ask, are you getting that error on both computers? Are you using a single or multiple voices? Did you play one player against a bot, or against other players. Thanks Shaun, Hopefully with some answers and going back through the code I might be able to figure something out. Pretty confused though as I didn't touch the main code of the game. Oh yeah, could you tell me if in your documents\kitchensinc folder it did create the game menu files and the start of the lifelog.txt file? BFN Jim There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one works. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- surch for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] LIfe not working here.
HI Jim, im also having issues with life i spun and hit the spacebar, but got thrown back to the desktop. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LIfe not working here.
well don't use the computer at all as a player thats where the bug seems to be. Luckily I still have the old winlife3 file so I can always downgrade. At 02:08 PM 6/11/2013, you wrote: HI Jim, im also having issues with life i spun and hit the spacebar, but got thrown back to the desktop. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] lone wolf: ships that fire torpedos?
hi, I'm doing a mission where I have the torpedo jammer can someone tell me which ships fire torpedos so I don't waist to many torpedos on them? the ones I know so far aircraft carriers and subs --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf: ships that fire torpedos?
Replay value. Play the mission and find out the difficulties. (ornery grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: enes enes.sari...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:44 PM Subject: [Audyssey] lone wolf: ships that fire torpedos? hi, I'm doing a mission where I have the torpedo jammer can someone tell me which ships fire torpedos so I don't waist to many torpedos on them? the ones I know so far aircraft carriers and subs --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LIfe not working here.
Ill have to go search for my copy of the previous file. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LIfe not working here. well don't use the computer at all as a player thats where the bug seems to be. Luckily I still have the old winlife3 file so I can always downgrade. At 02:08 PM 6/11/2013, you wrote: HI Jim, im also having issues with life i spun and hit the spacebar, but got thrown back to the desktop. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Shaun, Which is exactly something I've been thinking of doing. A batch file in Windows would do it. Same goes for a shell script in Linux. That's as simple and cross-platform compatible as you can get. On 6/10/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: true but you could just do what jeremy did and put all you need in a batch file which the user runs in admin mode. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Shaun, To begin with you are totally over thinking the dependencies for my games. The new Evolution engine does not require a lot of Windows components like DirectX, .NET, etc. All of the components it uses are open source third-party libs such as SDL 1.2.15, SDL Mixer 1.2.8, and SDL Net current. All of the dll files can be bundled with the game and don't even have to be installed to your system directories to work. The only thing that absolutely has to be installed are the Visual C++ runtime libraries which is generally a prerequisite for most Windows applications anyway. That is how my games can be cross-compiled on Mac and Linux, because they don't need or require any of the Microsoft specific stuff. So the thing is I don't need anything like Advanced Setup Installer, because all of the usual things it checks for like Microsoft SQL 2008, Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0, DirectX 9.0C, whatever simply do not apply to my games. So there is no need to do a lot of dependency checks here. If I need to do any dependency checks at all I can script it in Inno Setup and have it install SDL 1.2.15, the VC++ libs, and be done with it. The same can be done on the Linux side with a package manager like dpkg which allows me to set minimum versions of things like SDL, and have it worn the user if something like SDL is out of date. In fact, package management is one advantage Linux has over Windows installers. For example, lets say you opened Gnome Terminal and typed “dpkg -i mota-1.0-i386.deb” into the console. Dpkg will check the install script in the package for SDL 1.2.15, SDL Mixer 1.2.8, etc and will display an error if the dependencies are not met like this. “Error: Dependencies not met. LibSDL 1.2.14 is out of date. Run sudo apt-get install sdl1.2 to update.” I find that dpkg, rpm, and other package managers are far more detailed about what is out of date, what is missing, and it leaves no possibility of installing an application without one or more required dependencies unless the user specifically disables dependency checks with the –nodeps flag. Otherwise it works like a champ. Even better unlike Windows installers if you remove software with dpkg or rpm it removes everything without leaving a lot of garbage behind. So the more I think about it using a package manager might very well be in my best interests here. Cheers! On 6/10/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: tom why not have a componant checker and installer, that would have websetups for all dotnets directx runtimes, etc in it and other dll files whatever needed for your games and check for these. if the versions are not current or older than the programs then run them. if newer or the same don't. on windows, dotnet is loaded by default, c libs may not be however in windows for all my boxes I have loaded dotnet everything as a lot of stuff uses it. if there are any extras they can be installed by the program. Kinda like the old days. you installed your programs say a game like doom in dos, it would have a setup program which would load extra componants and configure the game its sort a something like that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Ian, It is and it isn't difficult to create an installer for Linux users. For the most part most distributions, name brand distributions, either use rpm or dpkg so if I create a package for each that should in theory cover most Linux users. If I use dpkg, for example, the package should work for Debian, Ubuntu, Sonar, Vinux, and anyone else that uses a Debian base. If someone happens to be using Arch they can check dpkg out of the Arch repository, but the dependency checks may fail since that isn't the native package manager for Arch systems. That's the primary problem with using any specific package manager unless you specifically intend to support some distributions and not others. However, what some commercial developers do such as Cepstral LLC is they simplycreate a shell script to install their voices into /opt/Cepstral, and then setup simlinks to their files in /usr/bin and /usr/lib etc. That seems to me to be the easiest method of doing it. So if I took Cepstral's installer as an example I could install a game to /opt/usa-games/mota which would keep all of my files together and easy to find from the programs point of view, but I can create simlinks to them in /usr/bin, /usr/shared/docs, etc so if someone types mota at the terminal it will find it and load even though its not actually in /usr where it is suppose to be. So using a shell script for Linux users is actually very simple in reality. :D Cheers! On 6/10/13, Ian Reed supp...@blindaudiogames.com wrote: Hi Tom, You should also consider the likelihood of newbiews on a per OS basis. From your comments it sounds more difficult to try to handle an installer for the different linux distributions. But linux users are also more likely to be power users who have no problem unzipping files. So perhaps you could do a simple zip archive for all linux users with a readme to explain installing dependencies and you could do an installer for windows users. Personally I just do a zip file and try to document installing dependencies. But this is partially because of my lack of experience in creating an installer. Ian Reed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts About Game Installations
Hi Paul, Well, thats kind of comparing apples and oranges here. Entombed requires a lot of .NET dependencies like the Microsoft .NET Framework, Microsoft XNA, Microsoft SQL, etc which if the installer doesn't handle them correctly can be a mess to track down. My games and my new engine only uses free and open source libraries that can be simply dropped in the games root directory and it will work with or without them being installed in the Windows system folders. It was designed this way so that the games would be portible and cross-platform which means I shouldn't have any of the grief developers like Jason had with Entombed. Cheers! On 6/10/13, Paul Lemm paul.l...@sky.com wrote: Hi Thomas, I don't know if it's quite the same, but when the most recent version of entombed was released there was an issue with the installer where by it downloaded the SQL, but then the user needed to go in and manually install the file. There were from memory absolutely loads of people that couldn't get entombed to work when this new installer came out and the mailing list was full of people trying to get the game to run. the issue still comes up from time to time on the mailing list from new players who can't get it to run. Although that being said I don't hink that there is a read me document that explains how to do it anywhere in the installer either which might be more of the reason that people couldn't get it to work. Hope that helps Paul --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp rifle scopes
hi johnny no they dont anymore, they dont even scope out the crates now either which is a shame. On 10/06/2013, Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca wrote: Is it just me or are the scopes no longer able to see/hear flies? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
