Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread dark

Hi Richard.

No idea at all since I've certainly not seen this problem myself. I've 
passed your message on to Sander Huberts and Richard vantol, the ones who 
actually maintain the code so maybe they have some suggestions that I don't.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Sherman squir...@gmail.com

To: Audyssey gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:28 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox



Hello,

Using firefox version 22 on a windows 7 ultimate machine and jaws 13.

However I do believe this started before updating to version 22. I think i
had either version 17 or 19 at the time.

for about a month now I have not been able to access any part of
audiogames.net. The error message I get is:

403 Forbidden

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /listgames.php on this server.

Apache/2.2.16
(Debian) Server at audiogames.net Port 80

I have tried typing it it manually or going thru a google search with no
luck. Ran clean up to remove all temp files and still no go.

Strange thing is that IE 9 will bring up the site with no problem.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

shermanator


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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread shaun everiss

hmmm thats weird, I have been on the forum and I can access it ok.
in fact I just tried and I can access the site ok.
can you fix it on ie?
maybe your system needs a reformat because its missbehaving.
Could be something I guess but the site
At 05:28 PM 8/11/2013, you wrote:

Hello,

Using firefox version 22 on a windows 7 ultimate machine and jaws 13.

However I do believe this started before updating to version 22. I think i
had either version 17 or 19 at the time.

for about a month now I have not been able to access any part of
audiogames.net. The error message I get is:

403 Forbidden

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /listgames.php on this server.

Apache/2.2.16
(Debian) Server at audiogames.net Port 80

I have tried typing it it manually or going thru a google search with no
luck. Ran clean up to remove all temp files and still no go.

Strange thing is that IE 9 will bring up the site with no problem.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

shermanator


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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Richard,

Not quite sure what the problem is, but it sounds like for some reason
you somehow blocked Audiogames.net in Firefox. I have Firefox 22 both
on Windows and Linux and don't have any issues accessing the site from
either one. So I don't think it is anything specific to Firefox per
say. Sounds to me like something is wrong with your setup.

You may have to delete your personal Firefox settings, and create new
ones and see if that fixes the problem. Generally, I believe they
would be found in
c:\Users\User Name\Application Data\Roming\Mozilla
or something like that. You can move your settings to somewhere else,
and then see if creating new ones fixes your problem.

Cheers!

On 8/11/13, Richard Sherman squir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Using firefox version 22 on a windows 7 ultimate machine and jaws 13.

 However I do believe this started before updating to version 22. I think i
 had either version 17 or 19 at the time.

 for about a month now I have not been able to access any part of
 audiogames.net. The error message I get is:

 403 Forbidden

 Forbidden

 You don't have permission to access /listgames.php on this server.

 Apache/2.2.16
 (Debian) Server at audiogames.net Port 80

 I have tried typing it it manually or going thru a google search with no
 luck. Ran clean up to remove all temp files and still no go.

 Strange thing is that IE 9 will bring up the site with no problem.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks in advance.

 shermanator


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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

Okay, this is just bad advice. I'm not quite sure what to do with you,
but I'm a little sick and tired of you suggesting someone format
their hard drive any time they have a minor problem that probably can
be resolved some other way without resorting to formatting. I don't
want to be a hard ass about this, but being a computer tech myself,
knowing advice like this is bad advice, I'm going to have to warn you
if you make a suggestion like this I am going to have to moderate or
ban you for misinformation and giving out bad advice. In fact,
effective immediately I am going to be updating the guidelines making
misinformation of this sort off limits to you and everyone else.
Stupid advice, well meant or not, is still stupid advice, and needs to
be regulated by people who know better.

Cheers!

On 8/11/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 hmmm thats weird, I have been on the forum and I can access it ok.
 in fact I just tried and I can access the site ok.
 can you fix it on ie?
 maybe your system needs a reformat because its missbehaving.
 Could be something I guess but the site

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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,


I strongly doubt they can do anything on their end since the problem
isn't Audiogames.net per say. I have Firefox on two different machines
and have no problems with the site on either one. So I can safely
conclude it is not Audiogames.net. It sounds to me something is wrong
with Richard's copy of Firefox as that seems to be the only logical
conclusion I can see here.

On 8/11/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Richard.

 No idea at all since I've certainly not seen this problem myself. I've
 passed your message on to Sander Huberts and Richard vantol, the ones who
 actually maintain the code so maybe they have some suggestions that I
 don't.

 All the best,

 Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

I don't doubt your right on the firefox issue, however obviously I know 
people have used firefox on the forums with no trouble, and certainly on the 
occasion when I personally encountered a 403 error code it was an issue with 
corrupted permission settings in the server code for a board (or that's what 
the admin said when i E-mailed him about the problem.


Still I freely admit you know much more about firefox than I do.

All the best,

Dark. 



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[Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello everyone,

As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines
certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to
be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things
that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason,
continuously post false and misleading information that could be
accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that
information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader.
Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the
rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official.

Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects
posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who
just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that
you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to
post is correct information.  Incorrect information or advice on how
to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's
computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or
headaches unnecessarily.  If a list member habitually posts obviously
faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a
warning.  Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the
list.  This guideline is to insure that list members do get the
correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what
they read is from a reliable source.

Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this
to the official list rules and guidelines?

Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

2013-08-11 Thread Angela Delicata

I think it is fine.
Thanks.
Angela from Italy


Il 11/08/2013 17:33, Thomas Ward ha scritto:

Hello everyone,

As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines
certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to
be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things
that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason,
continuously post false and misleading information that could be
accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that
information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader.
Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the
rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official.

Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects
posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who
just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that
you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to
post is correct information.  Incorrect information or advice on how
to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's
computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or
headaches unnecessarily.  If a list member habitually posts obviously
faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a
warning.  Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the
list.  This guideline is to insure that list members do get the
correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what
they read is from a reliable source.

Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this
to the official list rules and guidelines?

Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

2013-08-11 Thread Christina
I think this sounds very fair.
Thanks.
Christina


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:33 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

Hello everyone,

As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines
certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to
be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things
that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason,
continuously post false and misleading information that could be
accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that
information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader.
Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the
rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official.

Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects
posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who
just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that
you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to
post is correct information.  Incorrect information or advice on how
to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's
computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or
headaches unnecessarily.  If a list member habitually posts obviously
faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a
warning.  Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the
list.  This guideline is to insure that list members do get the
correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what
they read is from a reliable source.

Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this
to the official list rules and guidelines?

Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

2013-08-11 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi,
This seems entirely reasonable. Accuracy is important, and of course occasional 
misinformation might slip through, but a guideline like this is a good one.
Best,
Zack.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines
 certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to
 be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things
 that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason,
 continuously post false and misleading information that could be
 accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that
 information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader.
 Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the
 rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official.
 
 Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects
 posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who
 just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that
 you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to
 post is correct information.  Incorrect information or advice on how
 to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's
 computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or
 headaches unnecessarily.  If a list member habitually posts obviously
 faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a
 warning.  Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the
 list.  This guideline is to insure that list members do get the
 correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what
 they read is from a reliable source.
 
 Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this
 to the official list rules and guidelines?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread Richard Sherman
Hi,

Pretty sure it too is just something on my side. Will let you know what I 
find out. Thanks.

Shermanator
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:16 AM


Hi Dark,


I strongly doubt they can do anything on their end since the problem
isn't Audiogames.net per say. I have Firefox on two different machines
and have no problems with the site on either one. So I can safely
conclude it is not Audiogames.net. It sounds to me something is wrong
with Richard's copy of Firefox as that seems to be the only logical
conclusion I can see here.


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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread Richard Sherman
Hello,

Just giving an update.

I just deleted Ff, but not the personal settings. Reinstalled the latest 
build of ff 22 and now all tabs and pages are working properly. Not sure 
what it was, but now it's gone. thanks to all.

Shermanator 


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Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

2013-08-11 Thread Kimberly Qualls
It sounds great to me, since if I don't know something, having to do
with games, this is where I'll ask...Thanks, as always, for the
answers

On 8/11/13, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote:
   Yes that’s sounds fine

 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Christina
 Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:43 PM
 To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

 I think this sounds very fair.
 Thanks.
 Christina


 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
 Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:33 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

 Hello everyone,

 As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines
 certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to
 be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things
 that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason,
 continuously post false and misleading information that could be
 accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that
 information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader.
 Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the
 rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official.

 Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects
 posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who
 just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that
 you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to
 post is correct information.  Incorrect information or advice on how
 to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's
 computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or
 headaches unnecessarily.  If a list member habitually posts obviously
 faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a
 warning.  Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the
 list.  This guideline is to insure that list members do get the
 correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what
 they read is from a reliable source.

 Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this
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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread shaun everiss

I apologise for my advise.

At 03:12 AM 8/12/2013, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Okay, this is just bad advice. I'm not quite sure what to do with you,
but I'm a little sick and tired of you suggesting someone format
their hard drive any time they have a minor problem that probably can
be resolved some other way without resorting to formatting. I don't
want to be a hard ass about this, but being a computer tech myself,
knowing advice like this is bad advice, I'm going to have to warn you
if you make a suggestion like this I am going to have to moderate or
ban you for misinformation and giving out bad advice. In fact,
effective immediately I am going to be updating the guidelines making
misinformation of this sort off limits to you and everyone else.
Stupid advice, well meant or not, is still stupid advice, and needs to
be regulated by people who know better.

Cheers!

On 8/11/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 hmmm thats weird, I have been on the forum and I can access it ok.
 in fact I just tried and I can access the site ok.
 can you fix it on ie?
 maybe your system needs a reformat because its missbehaving.
 Could be something I guess but the site

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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread shaun everiss

hmmph, looked at the forums on mozilla site.
Its a problem with firefox,  mainly the suggestions seem to try to go 
to https or forget the www letters or something.

there have been various things with address bar not putting stuff in right.
A coman solution was to type into the address bar directly and also 
to clear cookies and temp files, maybe do this on exit of your 
brouser if you can.

there was also a bug with errors not displaying right.
So yes yesterday should have searched the nets before opening my mouth.
There are enough posts and some topics this year that have me 
thinking that there is probably some truth to some of this stuff.

I wander if ff has an error log it would have what it was trying to do.
A lot of stuff on the mozilla site and mozilla must be aware about this surely.
you could try asking on forums it seems to happen to the odd person 
quite a few of them if the google results were to be believed.


At 03:16 AM 8/12/2013, you wrote:

Hi Dark,


I strongly doubt they can do anything on their end since the problem
isn't Audiogames.net per say. I have Firefox on two different machines
and have no problems with the site on either one. So I can safely
conclude it is not Audiogames.net. It sounds to me something is wrong
with Richard's copy of Firefox as that seems to be the only logical
conclusion I can see here.

On 8/11/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Richard.

 No idea at all since I've certainly not seen this problem myself. I've
 passed your message on to Sander Huberts and Richard vantol, the ones who
 actually maintain the code so maybe they have some suggestions that I
 don't.

 All the best,

 Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread shaun everiss
well must have been some bug I looked at forums and a few were having 
that issue.

so maybe it was patched who knows.

At 07:03 AM 8/12/2013, you wrote:

Hello,

Just giving an update.

I just deleted Ff, but not the personal settings. Reinstalled the latest
build of ff 22 and now all tabs and pages are working properly. Not sure
what it was, but now it's gone. thanks to all.

Shermanator


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[Audyssey] recording iPhone games

2013-08-11 Thread Charles Rivard
I would like to record the playing of iPhone apps while describing what I am 
doing using a mike.  I want the sounds from the iPhone to go directly into the 
recording rather than through the mike I will be speaking into.  I will, of 
course, also need to be able to hear the sounds from the iPhone in order to use 
the app.  What do I need to do this?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Audyssey] recording iPhone games

2013-08-11 Thread Chris H
Get an app like Audioshare or Dropvox or the tons of others that are out 
there. There are also mikes you can buy that are designed for the iPhone.


On 11/08/2013 22:15, Charles Rivard wrote:

I would like to record the playing of iPhone apps while describing what I am 
doing using a mike.  I want the sounds from the iPhone to go directly into the 
recording rather than through the mike I will be speaking into.  I will, of 
course, also need to be able to hear the sounds from the iPhone in order to use 
the app.  What do I need to do this?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

With a 403 it can go either way. It certainly could be corrupted
permission settings on the Audiogames.net end, but as it is only
happening on Richard's system that rules out Audiogames.net being the
primary issue in this case. If it were on Audiogames.net's end I'd
likely be having the issue as well, and Internet Explorer users would
be effected too.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] problem accessing audiogames.net with firefox

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

I am glad to hear it. I figured it was something wrong with your
installation of FF.

On 8/11/13, Richard Sherman squir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Just giving an update.

 I just deleted Ff, but not the personal settings. Reinstalled the latest
 build of ff 22 and now all tabs and pages are working properly. Not sure
 what it was, but now it's gone. thanks to all.

 Shermanator

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Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,

Smile. That's the basic idea. I really don't want people giving out
bad advice that might be taken as fact by a list member, and it turns
out to be bad advice. For instance, telling someone to format their
hard drive and reinstall Windows just because they have a problem with
a certain application or a game is extremely bad advice and such
people who give out that kind of advice need to be moderated or
removed from the list if they continually offer up such advice as the
best solution to the problem at hand, nor is that the only example of
poorly researched information over the last few months. Its merely the
most recent and most destructive example that comes to mind.

Cheers!

On 8/11/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 Tom:  Because 100 percent is the highest possible amount, I agree with this

 addition exactly 100 percent!  It will, hopefully, stop all the phony
 baloney that is posted?  Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

2013-08-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Zack and all,

Well, to clarify things a bit, I am not so much concerned with
occasional or accidental misinformation as I am when that information
is patently false or just bad because the poster doesn't do his or her
research on a given topic. I think we are all prone to a bit of
misinformation from time to time like accidentally supplying the wrong
web site or email address when asked, and there is no harm done to
anyone. Its a mistake, and the poster can apologize and move on.. Its
an entirely different situation when a poster tries to answer a
question of which he or she obviously knows nothing about the subject
being discussed and someone else who knows better has to go back and
set the record straight. That kind of misinformation is just
irritating, wastes everyone's time, and shouldn't be aloud to continue
on list.

Cheers!


On 8/11/13, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 Hi,
 This seems entirely reasonable. Accuracy is important, and of course
 occasional misinformation might slip through, but a guideline like this is a
 good one.
 Best,
 Zack.

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Audyssey] recording iPhone games

2013-08-11 Thread Charles Rivard
Audio Share or Drop Box are not for recording.  They are for distributing an 
already recorded project, which has nothing at all to do with what I asked.


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] recording iPhone games


Get an app like Audioshare or Dropvox or the tons of others that are out 
there. There are also mikes you can buy that are designed for the iPhone.


On 11/08/2013 22:15, Charles Rivard wrote:
I would like to record the playing of iPhone apps while describing what I 
am doing using a mike.  I want the sounds from the iPhone to go directly 
into the recording rather than through the mike I will be speaking into. 
I will, of course, also need to be able to hear the sounds from the 
iPhone in order to use the app.  What do I need to do this?  Thanks in 
advance.


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Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines

2013-08-11 Thread Charles Rivard
Like the example of someone suggestion that you reformat your hard drive due 
to a modem issue.  Someone might do it, even though it obviously would not 
solve the issue, and cause a lot of totally unnecessary wasted time and 
work.  The suggestor obviously knew nothing about the issue, because a 
reformat is not always the answer.


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Hi Zack and all,

Well, to clarify things a bit, I am not so much concerned with
occasional or accidental misinformation as I am when that information
is patently false or just bad because the poster doesn't do his or her
research on a given topic. I think we are all prone to a bit of
misinformation from time to time like accidentally supplying the wrong
web site or email address when asked, and there is no harm done to
anyone. Its a mistake, and the poster can apologize and move on.. Its
an entirely different situation when a poster tries to answer a
question of which he or she obviously knows nothing about the subject
being discussed and someone else who knows better has to go back and
set the record straight. That kind of misinformation is just
irritating, wastes everyone's time, and shouldn't be aloud to continue
on list.

Cheers!


On 8/11/13, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:

Hi,
This seems entirely reasonable. Accuracy is important, and of course
occasional misinformation might slip through, but a guideline like this 
is a

good one.
Best,
Zack.

Sent from my iPhone


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