Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread dark
Well for a start the London version of monopoly that I know which is 
commonly used in the Uk doesn't use Dollars :D.


Then again monopoly seems to have a lot of rule variation. When i originally 
played for example I always thought no buying on the first go around the 
board was an official rule and was quite surprised to find many players 
didn't. It makes for a longer game and also makes luck with the dice 
important to get off to an early start, but it does tend to result in 
players picking up properties in a more spread out way since obviously they 
will arive on the first few squares at different times.


There was also a really weerd rule which I've seen some people play with 
that whenever a player loses cash to a chance or community chest card, that 
cash goes into the center of the board and the next person who lands on free 
parking can take it,  though to me that one seemed just plane crazy, and 
I couldn't really see the point since you don't get paid for free parking in 
real life :d.
And all this is of course apart from some of the whackier custom monopoly 
games with different rules and cards,  albeit I've unfortunately never 
really got to play those myself as (as usual), the only accessible version 
in braille is the bog standard original one.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.

Dark.
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Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 6:46 AM
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game



The official rules are 2 $500 bills, 2 $100 bills, 2 $50 bills, 6 $20 
bills, 5 $10 bills, 5 $5 bills, and 5 $1 bills.  I wonder if they are 
different in the UK, although I wouldn't think so.


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game



Wow Haiden, those aren't the distributions I know. In all the  rules I 
know it's 4 hundreds, one fifty, two tens, a twenty a 5 and 5 1's, 
nothing about six 20's. but I suspect this is something where different 
rules are used in different places and after all it doesn't really matter 
so long as each player has a good selection of change to pay small bills 
with.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly 
game




Hi,
If I might chime in: the money distributions were:
500-2, 100-2, 50-2, 20-6, 10-5, 5-5, 1-5, with the first number being 
the denomination and the second being the number of said denomination 
given to each player.


Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Ward

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly 
game


Hi Milos,

This is in deed on topic so no worries. When this list was originally 
established back in the mid 90's the list included all accessible games 
including standard board, puzzle, and card games in braille as well as 
electronic versions. So I am glad you asked your questions here. As to 
your questions here are your answers.


As far as distributing the money the instructions give the exact amounts 
how the money is to be divided up among the players. I don't remember 
the exact amounts off the top of my head, but if you have a braille or 
audio instruction manual it will tell you how to divide the money 
between players.
To buy a property in Monopoly you must give the banker the amount of 
money for the property listed on the deed, and in return he or she will 
give you the deed to the property.


To mortgage a property you will have to give the banker the deed to that 
property and in return he or she will give you the mortgage value listed 
on the deed. He or she will write it down on a piece of paper that this 
or that property is mortgaged and probably keep it in a separate pile 
from the unsold deeds.


Cheers!

On 12/1/13, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,
I think that this is not Off-Topic. It is about a game that is
accessible, although it is not neither video nor audio game but a
braille monopoly that I ordered on Ebay and it arrived some time ago.
Now I am trying to play and have some questions, and if this is
off-topic I will make no objections if the moderators close it.
First, let me say that I know the rules and that I am very experienced
player in all audio versions of Monopoly. So the rules are not the
problem, but the questions are about applying them in the physical
game, that is, how to do some things that the computer does in a 

Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread dark
Well the rules I mention are from the version I own which is the brailled 
version by the Rnib, and knowing what they're like, while it is a good set 
with clear markings and decent colours it might be possible that it had some 
earlier varients of the rules.


As I said however it's the alternative monopoly games I'm a little sad to 
miss, indeed fantasy board games seem to have really taken off at the 
moment.


My nbrother regularly plays a lotr board game which plays like a gamebook 
with some simple mechanics with the players playing the four hobbits going 
to Mordor.


My brother also regularly plays Talisman and has collected several varients, 
which is another very famous fantasy board game with basic rpg mechanics but 
the board as the playing space and lots of random event cards.


I'd actually love to see an accessible version of a fantasy board game like 
that, as I've always wanted to play one but none have ever been accessible.


Beware the Grue!

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread Charles Rivard
The two rules you mentioned are house rules.  And how's this for an idea? 
The Grue as a token?


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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly 
game



Well for a start the London version of monopoly that I know which is 
commonly used in the Uk doesn't use Dollars :D.


Then again monopoly seems to have a lot of rule variation. When i 
originally played for example I always thought no buying on the first go 
around the board was an official rule and was quite surprised to find many 
players didn't. It makes for a longer game and also makes luck with the 
dice important to get off to an early start, but it does tend to result in 
players picking up properties in a more spread out way since obviously 
they will arive on the first few squares at different times.


There was also a really weerd rule which I've seen some people play with 
that whenever a player loses cash to a chance or community chest card, 
that cash goes into the center of the board and the next person who lands 
on free parking can take it,  though to me that one seemed just plane 
crazy, and I couldn't really see the point since you don't get paid for 
free parking in real life :d.
And all this is of course apart from some of the whackier custom monopoly 
games with different rules and cards,  albeit I've unfortunately never 
really got to play those myself as (as usual), the only accessible version 
in braille is the bog standard original one.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.

Dark.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly 
game



The official rules are 2 $500 bills, 2 $100 bills, 2 $50 bills, 6 $20 
bills, 5 $10 bills, 5 $5 bills, and 5 $1 bills.  I wonder if they are 
different in the UK, although I wouldn't think so.


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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly 
game



Wow Haiden, those aren't the distributions I know. In all the  rules I 
know it's 4 hundreds, one fifty, two tens, a twenty a 5 and 5 1's, 
nothing about six 20's. but I suspect this is something where different 
rules are used in different places and after all it doesn't really 
matter so long as each player has a good selection of change to pay 
small bills with.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly 
game




Hi,
If I might chime in: the money distributions were:
500-2, 100-2, 50-2, 20-6, 10-5, 5-5, 1-5, with the first number being 
the denomination and the second being the number of said denomination 
given to each player.


Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Ward

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the 
Monopoly game


Hi Milos,

This is in deed on topic so no worries. When this list was originally 
established back in the mid 90's the list included all accessible games 
including standard board, puzzle, and card games in braille as well as 
electronic versions. So I am glad you asked your questions here. As to 
your questions here are your answers.


As far as distributing the money the instructions give the exact 
amounts how the money is to be divided up among the players. I don't 
remember the exact amounts off the top of my head, but if you have a 
braille or audio instruction manual it will tell you how to divide the 
money between players.
To buy a property in Monopoly you must give the banker the amount of 
money for the property listed on the deed, and in return he or she will 
give you the deed to the property.


To mortgage a property you will have to give the banker the deed to 
that property and in return he or she will give you the mortgage value 
listed on the deed. He or she will write it down on a piece of paper 
that this or that property is mortgaged and probably keep it in a 
separate pile from the unsold deeds.


Cheers!

On 12/1/13, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,
I think that this is not Off-Topic. It is about a game that is
accessible, although it is not neither video nor audio game but a
braille monopoly that I ordered on Ebay and it arrived some time ago.
Now I am trying 

Re: [Audyssey] Alter aeon

2013-12-02 Thread Allison P
How do you actually go about finding areas, though? That is what
confuses me. I am level 30 mage, am actually at 86 total levels. I am
Sasanak on there btw, if anyone would like to group up with me
sometime. I really do enjoy playing in groups more than soloing, but I
would like to solo every once in a while, but as I say I have no clue
where to find good levels to go so I don't get killed. Lol.

Oh, and hey Dark, maybe you could do a podcast on Alter Aeon sometime.
That'd be wicked awesome! :D As well as probably helpful, as even
though I've been playing the game off and on for about a year, I still
really feel like a newb. Lol.

On 12/1/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Lindsay, I'm a solo sort of chap myself so I  appreciate the point.

 when looking at areas, take careful note of the level of each area when you

 use the nearby command or similar. if your soloing, avoid areas over your
 level and even be careful with some areas around your level. also, make sure

 you have abilities to handle things in the game you will run across while
 soloing, for example healing yourself, removing status effects etc, 
 necro mninians can also help a lot with this as can clerric spells, and of
 course having warrior skills to increase your staminer and hp help as well.

 Hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lindsay Cowell lindsay.cow...@virginmedia.com
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:25 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Alter aeon


I play alter aeon but enjoy being on my own but I struggle finding areas. I

play a few characters on there, one of them is Deborah, but forgotten the
rest. How do I find areas to solo?

 Lindsay Cowell.


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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, you are right there are many different versions of Monopoly with
custom rules and changes in money. In the Star Trek and Star Wars
boards I had instead of money they were called credits which makes
sense. In the Lord of the Rings version there was a ring that traveled
around the board which had its own special rules quite apart from the
bog standard Monopoly you are familiar with. I have considered writing
a few accessible versions of these Monopoly games as they are in my
opinion a lot more fun than the bog standard Monopoly game.

Cheers!

On 12/2/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Well for a start the London version of monopoly that I know which is
 commonly used in the Uk doesn't use Dollars :D.

 Then again monopoly seems to have a lot of rule variation. When i originally
 played for example I always thought no buying on the first go around the
 board was an official rule and was quite surprised to find many players
 didn't. It makes for a longer game and also makes luck with the dice
 important to get off to an early start, but it does tend to result in
 players picking up properties in a more spread out way since obviously they
 will arive on the first few squares at different times.

 There was also a really weerd rule which I've seen some people play with
 that whenever a player loses cash to a chance or community chest card, that
 cash goes into the center of the board and the next person who lands on free
 parking can take it,  though to me that one seemed just plane crazy, and
 I couldn't really see the point since you don't get paid for free parking in
 real life :d.
 And all this is of course apart from some of the whackier custom monopoly
 games with different rules and cards,  albeit I've unfortunately never
 really got to play those myself as (as usual), the only accessible version
 in braille is the bog standard original one.

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread dark

Hi tom.

Some of those alternate monopoly varients did sound like a lot of fun, what 
I'd most like to play some of the fantasy board games that are floating 
around like talisman, which work like simplified rpgs or gamebooks with 
basic combat,  cards with special events and the like.


Beware the grue!

dark.
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Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly 
game




Hi Dark,

Well, you are right there are many different versions of Monopoly with
custom rules and changes in money. In the Star Trek and Star Wars
boards I had instead of money they were called credits which makes
sense. In the Lord of the Rings version there was a ring that traveled
around the board which had its own special rules quite apart from the
bog standard Monopoly you are familiar with. I have considered writing
a few accessible versions of these Monopoly games as they are in my
opinion a lot more fun than the bog standard Monopoly game.

Cheers!

On 12/2/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Well for a start the London version of monopoly that I know which is
commonly used in the Uk doesn't use Dollars :D.

Then again monopoly seems to have a lot of rule variation. When i 
originally

played for example I always thought no buying on the first go around the
board was an official rule and was quite surprised to find many players
didn't. It makes for a longer game and also makes luck with the dice
important to get off to an early start, but it does tend to result in
players picking up properties in a more spread out way since obviously 
they

will arive on the first few squares at different times.

There was also a really weerd rule which I've seen some people play with
that whenever a player loses cash to a chance or community chest card, 
that
cash goes into the center of the board and the next person who lands on 
free
parking can take it,  though to me that one seemed just plane crazy, 
and
I couldn't really see the point since you don't get paid for free parking 
in

real life :d.
And all this is of course apart from some of the whackier custom monopoly
games with different rules and cards,  albeit I've unfortunately 
never
really got to play those myself as (as usual), the only accessible 
version

in braille is the bog standard original one.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for November 2013

2013-12-02 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Christina,

You are welcome.  I'm just happy that I can post the reports etc to the list 
again.

Have a good one.

BFN

Jim

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[Audyssey] google chrome, chromevox, and games

2013-12-02 Thread Josh

hi

Are there any accessible game extensions that work good inside google 
chrome with chromevox? I am really impressed with chrome and chromevox 
and think I'll probably get an android tablet at some point with 
talkback and maybe mobile accessibility.


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Re: [Audyssey] Change Reaction2 and Silver Dollar from Draconis Entertainment.

2013-12-02 Thread Draconis
Hello Gary and all,

Change Reaction 2, SilverDollar, and the Draconis ShowCase have all had their 
installers updated to be compatible with Windows 8.1 as of this morning.

Enjoy.

On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Gary Price(Gmail) gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone, this is Gary Price here.
 
 Please can anyone try and install if they have these:
 Change Reaction version2 and Silver Dollar from Draconis Entertainment on 
 Windows8.1?
 You should receive the following message, which is what I'm getting:
 Change Reaction Setup requires Microsoft .net Framework2.0 client Profile. 
 Please use Windows Update to get this version, then re-run the Change 
 reaction setup program. OK button.
 
 Now thanks to a standalone installer I downloaded for .net framework, I found 
 out that its already built into Windows8.1
 
 If anyone else can duplicate, can you report it? I have done this but had no 
 response.
 
 Thanks very much I look forward to any responses.
 
 Regards.
 Gary Price.
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Re: [Audyssey] Alter aeon

2013-12-02 Thread Dennis Towne
Honestly, I think one of the most important things to know about
exploring areas and soloing is to aim low.  If your character is level
30, try level 28 areas instead of level 30 areas.  Go for areas that
are a bit weaker, so it's easier and safer to explore, until you get
the hang of exploring.  You'll still get loads of experience, but your
chances of dying are a lot lower.

For actually finding areas, use the 'area' command to search for areas
by level and continent, then the 'nearby' command to figure out
roughly where they are.  For example, the 'area 28' command lists
areas between level 25 and level 31.

Remember that there's a big difference between a level 30 character
with 85 total levels, and a level 30 character with a hundred total
levels.  It's ok to be in lower level areas if you're not ready for
the higher level ones.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Allison P apocalypseof...@gmail.com wrote:
 How do you actually go about finding areas, though? That is what
 confuses me. I am level 30 mage, am actually at 86 total levels. I am
 Sasanak on there btw, if anyone would like to group up with me
 sometime. I really do enjoy playing in groups more than soloing, but I
 would like to solo every once in a while, but as I say I have no clue
 where to find good levels to go so I don't get killed. Lol.

 Oh, and hey Dark, maybe you could do a podcast on Alter Aeon sometime.
 That'd be wicked awesome! :D As well as probably helpful, as even
 though I've been playing the game off and on for about a year, I still
 really feel like a newb. Lol.

 On 12/1/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Lindsay, I'm a solo sort of chap myself so I  appreciate the point.

 when looking at areas, take careful note of the level of each area when you

 use the nearby command or similar. if your soloing, avoid areas over your
 level and even be careful with some areas around your level. also, make sure

 you have abilities to handle things in the game you will run across while
 soloing, for example healing yourself, removing status effects etc, 
 necro mninians can also help a lot with this as can clerric spells, and of
 course having warrior skills to increase your staminer and hp help as well.

 Hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lindsay Cowell lindsay.cow...@virginmedia.com
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:25 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Alter aeon


I play alter aeon but enjoy being on my own but I struggle finding areas. I

play a few characters on there, one of them is Deborah, but forgotten the
rest. How do I find areas to solo?

 Lindsay Cowell.


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[Audyssey] Giving Gifts in Solara

2013-12-02 Thread Christina
Hi.
Does anyone know how to give treasure and/or food to friends in Solara?
Thanks.
I'm using an iPhone 4s with Voiceover.
Christina



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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread hayden presley
Hi Dark,
Heh. As weird as the house rule appears to you, I think you'd be surprised how 
many people use it. Most people I know use it on an actual physical board, and 
if I' on the playroom it almost always comes into play there as well. I try to 
avoid such things; I'm sort of a Nazi when it comes to following the rules in 
such games, especially when actually getting said money is strictly a 
luck-based outcome.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 2:29 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

Well for a start the London version of monopoly that I know which is commonly 
used in the Uk doesn't use Dollars :D.

Then again monopoly seems to have a lot of rule variation. When i originally 
played for example I always thought no buying on the first go around the board 
was an official rule and was quite surprised to find many players didn't. It 
makes for a longer game and also makes luck with the dice important to get off 
to an early start, but it does tend to result in players picking up properties 
in a more spread out way since obviously they will arive on the first few 
squares at different times.

There was also a really weerd rule which I've seen some people play with that 
whenever a player loses cash to a chance or community chest card, that cash 
goes into the center of the board and the next person who lands on free parking 
can take it,  though to me that one seemed just plane crazy, and I couldn't 
really see the point since you don't get paid for free parking in real life :d.
And all this is of course apart from some of the whackier custom monopoly games 
with different rules and cards,  albeit I've unfortunately never really got 
to play those myself as (as usual), the only accessible version in braille is 
the bog standard original one.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.

Dark.
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Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game


 The official rules are 2 $500 bills, 2 $100 bills, 2 $50 bills, 6 $20 
 bills, 5 $10 bills, 5 $5 bills, and 5 $1 bills.  I wonder if they are 
 different in the UK, although I wouldn't think so.

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 From: dark d...@xgam.org
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the 
 Monopoly game


 Wow Haiden, those aren't the distributions I know. In all the  rules 
 I know it's 4 hundreds, one fifty, two tens, a twenty a 5 and 5 1's, 
 nothing about six 20's. but I suspect this is something where 
 different rules are used in different places and after all it doesn't 
 really matter so long as each player has a good selection of change 
 to pay small bills with.

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.
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 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the 
 Monopoly game


 Hi,
 If I might chime in: the money distributions were:
 500-2, 100-2, 50-2, 20-6, 10-5, 5-5, 1-5, with the first number 
 being the denomination and the second being the number of said 
 denomination given to each player.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of 
 Thomas Ward
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the 
 Monopoly game

 Hi Milos,

 This is in deed on topic so no worries. When this list was 
 originally established back in the mid 90's the list included all 
 accessible games including standard board, puzzle, and card games in 
 braille as well as electronic versions. So I am glad you asked your 
 questions here. As to your questions here are your answers.

 As far as distributing the money the instructions give the exact 
 amounts how the money is to be divided up among the players. I don't 
 remember the exact amounts off the top of my head, but if you have a 
 braille or audio instruction manual it will tell you how to divide 
 the money between players.
 To buy a property in Monopoly you must give the banker the amount of 
 money for the property listed on the deed, and in return he or she 
 will give you the deed to the property.

 To mortgage a property you will have to give the banker the deed to 
 that property and in return he or she will give you the mortgage 
 value listed on the deed. He or she will write it down on a piece of 
 paper that this or that property is mortgaged and probably keep it 

Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread hayden presley
Hi Dark,
Interesting. Just as you've ever seen the one I mentioned, I haven't seen yours 
either IN actuality, I almost woujld prefer that, since in the end you get 
$1500, and you aren't doing so much exchanging early on to buy properties.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:13 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

Wow Haiden, those aren't the distributions I know. In all the  rules I know 
it's 4 hundreds, one fifty, two tens, a twenty a 5 and 5 1's, nothing about six 
20's. but I suspect this is something where different rules are used in 
different places and after all it doesn't really matter so long as each player 
has a good selection of change to pay small bills with.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game


 Hi,
 If I might chime in: the money distributions were:
 500-2, 100-2, 50-2, 20-6, 10-5, 5-5, 1-5, with the first number being 
 the denomination and the second being the number of said denomination 
 given to each player.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas 
 Ward
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the 
 Monopoly game

 Hi Milos,

 This is in deed on topic so no worries. When this list was originally 
 established back in the mid 90's the list included all accessible 
 games including standard board, puzzle, and card games in braille as 
 well as electronic versions. So I am glad you asked your questions 
 here. As to your questions here are your answers.

 As far as distributing the money the instructions give the exact 
 amounts how the money is to be divided up among the players. I don't 
 remember the exact amounts off the top of my head, but if you have a 
 braille or audio instruction manual it will tell you how to divide the 
 money between players.
 To buy a property in Monopoly you must give the banker the amount of 
 money for the property listed on the deed, and in return he or she 
 will give you the deed to the property.

 To mortgage a property you will have to give the banker the deed to 
 that property and in return he or she will give you the mortgage value 
 listed on the deed. He or she will write it down on a piece of paper 
 that this or that property is mortgaged and probably keep it in a 
 separate pile from the unsold deeds.

 Cheers!

 On 12/1/13, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 I think that this is not Off-Topic. It is about a game that is 
 accessible, although it is not neither video nor audio game but a 
 braille monopoly that I ordered on Ebay and it arrived some time ago.
 Now I am trying to play and have some questions, and if this is 
 off-topic I will make no objections if the moderators close it.
 First, let me say that I know the rules and that I am very 
 experienced player in all audio versions of Monopoly. So the rules 
 are not the problem, but the questions are about applying them in the 
 physical game, that is, how to do some things that the computer does 
 in a digital version instead.
 1. When your token lands on a field and you want to buy it, how do 
 you do it? Do you just take the card where that property info is written?
 2. How does one distribute the money? The board comes with a number 
 of banknotes of 1, 5, 10, 50, 100 and 500 dollars. How to distribute 
 the money at the beginning so that everyone has 1500 dollars as the 
 rules state, and still to be able to pay, say, 2, 3, 14 or 223 dollars?
 3. How to mark a property that is mortgaged?
 Another set of questions may come up soon, so thanks in advance!
 Best regards,
   Miloš Pržic
 twitter: MilosPrzic
 skype: Milosh-hs


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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread dark
Well I wouldn't be a nazi about it, but while I can certainly see bennifits 
for many rule changes that one sort of confuses me since I don't see what it 
adds to the game other than the chance to grab extra money at random. But 
then again if people like the rule fair enough, it's certainly not a game 
breaker the way I've seen some house rule changes.


For example I remember one version of hearts where all the hearts counted 
their spot value, (ace as eleven), which made the game very whacky as 
compared to the standard rules since the ace of hearts was nearly as bad as 
the queen of space, and even if you lose one penalty point if it's the ace 
your in trouble. I also remember one version which utterly missed off 
shooting the moon.


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Re: [Audyssey] Alter aeon

2013-12-02 Thread Allison P
Okay, cool! I'll do that. Thanks Dentin! That makes sense.

On 12/2/13, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote:
 Honestly, I think one of the most important things to know about
 exploring areas and soloing is to aim low.  If your character is level
 30, try level 28 areas instead of level 30 areas.  Go for areas that
 are a bit weaker, so it's easier and safer to explore, until you get
 the hang of exploring.  You'll still get loads of experience, but your
 chances of dying are a lot lower.

 For actually finding areas, use the 'area' command to search for areas
 by level and continent, then the 'nearby' command to figure out
 roughly where they are.  For example, the 'area 28' command lists
 areas between level 25 and level 31.

 Remember that there's a big difference between a level 30 character
 with 85 total levels, and a level 30 character with a hundred total
 levels.  It's ok to be in lower level areas if you're not ready for
 the higher level ones.

 Dennis Towne

 Alter Aeon MUD
 http://www.alteraeon.com


 On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Allison P apocalypseof...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 How do you actually go about finding areas, though? That is what
 confuses me. I am level 30 mage, am actually at 86 total levels. I am
 Sasanak on there btw, if anyone would like to group up with me
 sometime. I really do enjoy playing in groups more than soloing, but I
 would like to solo every once in a while, but as I say I have no clue
 where to find good levels to go so I don't get killed. Lol.

 Oh, and hey Dark, maybe you could do a podcast on Alter Aeon sometime.
 That'd be wicked awesome! :D As well as probably helpful, as even
 though I've been playing the game off and on for about a year, I still
 really feel like a newb. Lol.

 On 12/1/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Lindsay, I'm a solo sort of chap myself so I  appreciate the point.

 when looking at areas, take careful note of the level of each area when
 you

 use the nearby command or similar. if your soloing, avoid areas over
 your
 level and even be careful with some areas around your level. also, make
 sure

 you have abilities to handle things in the game you will run across
 while
 soloing, for example healing yourself, removing status effects etc, 
 necro mninians can also help a lot with this as can clerric spells, and
 of
 course having warrior skills to increase your staminer and hp help as
 well.

 Hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
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 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:25 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Alter aeon


I play alter aeon but enjoy being on my own but I struggle finding areas.
 I

play a few characters on there, one of them is Deborah, but forgotten
 the
rest. How do I find areas to solo?

 Lindsay Cowell.


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Re: [Audyssey] Let's Plays?

2013-12-02 Thread Allison P
Yeah, you should so do that, Liam! it would be awesome! I mean, don't
get me wrong; mainstream games are cool to let's play, but there are
so few let's plays of audio games around. You could do some good ones,
I'm sure, if you wanted. I'd sure listen to them anyways. :D

On 11/14/13, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote:
 I Let's Play mainstream games, but I should really do some audio games
 as well. I think it would be a ton of fun. have been live streaming
 bk3 for a while.


 On 11/13/13, Allison P apocalypseof...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all. I was wanting to find some other let's plays by blind folks
 that I could listen to. I really enjoyed the one Clement did for
 Shadow Line, and the one that Dragon guy did for Papa Sangre I and II
 was freaking awesome! Lol. So yeah, does anyone know of anymore, or
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Re: [Audyssey] Giving Gifts in Solara

2013-12-02 Thread ryan chou
I was actually wondering the exact same thing, been trying to figure
it out for a few hours now and haven't found anything

On 12/2/13, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote:
 Hi.
 Does anyone know how to give treasure and/or food to friends in Solara?
 Thanks.
 I'm using an iPhone 4s with Voiceover.
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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread hayden presley
Heh. Now there's an interesting hearts variant. Takes a lot of the strategy
out of it, since there are times when it's worth sacrificing a few points so
as to stop from getting them all. But I digress, and I'll stop now.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:21 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly
game

Well I wouldn't be a nazi about it, but while I can certainly see bennifits
for many rule changes that one sort of confuses me since I don't see what it
adds to the game other than the chance to grab extra money at random. But
then again if people like the rule fair enough, it's certainly not a game
breaker the way I've seen some house rule changes.

For example I remember one version of hearts where all the hearts counted
their spot value, (ace as eleven), which made the game very whacky as
compared to the standard rules since the ace of hearts was nearly as bad as
the queen of space, and even if you lose one penalty point if it's the ace
your in trouble. I also remember one version which utterly missed off
shooting the moon.

BEware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, while I would like to play some of those fantasy board games you
speak of myself unfortunately I would have to own it or at least the
rule book in order to make a software version of the game. Since I
don't have that and money is tight right now I have to stick to games
I know.

Cheers!

On 12/2/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi tom.

 Some of those alternate monopoly varients did sound like a lot of fun, what

 I'd most like to play some of the fantasy board games that are floating
 around like talisman, which work like simplified rpgs or gamebooks with
 basic combat,  cards with special events and the like.

 Beware the grue!

 dark.
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 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 11:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly
 game


 Hi Dark,

 Well, you are right there are many different versions of Monopoly with
 custom rules and changes in money. In the Star Trek and Star Wars
 boards I had instead of money they were called credits which makes
 sense. In the Lord of the Rings version there was a ring that traveled
 around the board which had its own special rules quite apart from the
 bog standard Monopoly you are familiar with. I have considered writing
 a few accessible versions of these Monopoly games as they are in my
 opinion a lot more fun than the bog standard Monopoly game.

 Cheers!

 On 12/2/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Well for a start the London version of monopoly that I know which is
 commonly used in the Uk doesn't use Dollars :D.

 Then again monopoly seems to have a lot of rule variation. When i
 originally
 played for example I always thought no buying on the first go around the
 board was an official rule and was quite surprised to find many players
 didn't. It makes for a longer game and also makes luck with the dice
 important to get off to an early start, but it does tend to result in
 players picking up properties in a more spread out way since obviously
 they
 will arive on the first few squares at different times.

 There was also a really weerd rule which I've seen some people play with
 that whenever a player loses cash to a chance or community chest card,
 that
 cash goes into the center of the board and the next person who lands on
 free
 parking can take it,  though to me that one seemed just plane crazy,

 and
 I couldn't really see the point since you don't get paid for free parking

 in
 real life :d.
 And all this is of course apart from some of the whackier custom
 monopoly
 games with different rules and cards,  albeit I've unfortunately
 never
 really got to play those myself as (as usual), the only accessible
 version
 in braille is the bog standard original one.

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
I must say its been years since I have been 
playing with family board or card games in the physical case anymore.
There was a time back in the past before people 
really got busy with life we would use to do that.

Sadly thats mostly gone now.
Even when we are away unless we part with almost 
every bit of tech we have including our phones, 
tablets and computers which we can't really do 
fully, we end up playing with those instead of the games.


At 04:15 PM 12/2/2013, you wrote:
Hi Milos, This is in deed on topic so no 
worries. When this list was originally 
established back in the mid 90's the list 
included all accessible games including standard 
board, puzzle, and card games in braille as well 
as electronic versions. So I am glad you asked 
your questions here. As to your questions here 
are your answers. As far as distributing the 
money the instructions give the exact amounts 
how the money is to be divided up among the 
players. I don't remember the exact amounts off 
the top of my head, but if you have a braille or 
audio instruction manual it will tell you how to 
divide the money between players. To buy a 
property in Monopoly you must give the banker 
the amount of money for the property listed on 
the deed, and in return he or she will give you 
the deed to the property. To mortgage a property 
you will have to give the banker the deed to 
that property and in return he or she will give 
you the mortgage value listed on the deed. He or 
she will write it down on a piece of paper that 
this or that property is mortgaged and probably 
keep it in a separate pile from the unsold 
deeds. Cheers! On 12/1/13, Milos Przic 
milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote:  Hi all,  I 
think that this is not Off-Topic. It is about a 
game that is accessible,  although it is not 
neither video nor audio game but a braille 
monopoly that  I ordered on Ebay and it arrived 
some time ago. Now I am trying to play and  
have some questions, and if this is off-topic I 
will make no objections if  the moderators 
close it.  First, let me say that I know the 
rules and that I am very experienced  player in 
all audio versions of Monopoly. So the rules are 
not the problem,  but the questions are about 
applying them in the physical game, that is, 
how  to do some things that the computer does 
in a digital version instead.  1. When your 
token lands on a field and you want to buy it, 
how do you do  it? Do you just take the card 
where that property info is written?  2. How 
does one distribute the money? The board comes 
with a number of  banknotes of 1, 5, 10, 50, 
100 and 500 dollars. How to distribute the 
money  at the beginning so that everyone has 
1500 dollars as the rules state, and  still to 
be able to pay, say, 2, 3, 14 or 223 dollars?  
3. How to mark a property that is mortgaged?  
Another set of questions may come up soon, so 
thanks in advance!  Best 
regards,Miloš Pržic  twitter: 
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Re: [Audyssey] Alter aeon

2013-12-02 Thread shaun everiss

what I have done is go through arieas even if I have a high or lower  level.
there are some arieas where you just deliver stuff around and you can 
get easy things.
the only ariea I have not   been able to get back to is the vemarkin 
garden though I have got close to it, I found it once but I didn't 
have enough power at that time to really handle it.


At 06:17 AM 12/3/2013, you wrote:

Honestly, I think one of the most important things to know about
exploring areas and soloing is to aim low.  If your character is level
30, try level 28 areas instead of level 30 areas.  Go for areas that
are a bit weaker, so it's easier and safer to explore, until you get
the hang of exploring.  You'll still get loads of experience, but your
chances of dying are a lot lower.

For actually finding areas, use the 'area' command to search for areas
by level and continent, then the 'nearby' command to figure out
roughly where they are.  For example, the 'area 28' command lists
areas between level 25 and level 31.

Remember that there's a big difference between a level 30 character
with 85 total levels, and a level 30 character with a hundred total
levels.  It's ok to be in lower level areas if you're not ready for
the higher level ones.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Allison P apocalypseof...@gmail.com wrote:
 How do you actually go about finding areas, though? That is what
 confuses me. I am level 30 mage, am actually at 86 total levels. I am
 Sasanak on there btw, if anyone would like to group up with me
 sometime. I really do enjoy playing in groups more than soloing, but I
 would like to solo every once in a while, but as I say I have no clue
 where to find good levels to go so I don't get killed. Lol.

 Oh, and hey Dark, maybe you could do a podcast on Alter Aeon sometime.
 That'd be wicked awesome! :D As well as probably helpful, as even
 though I've been playing the game off and on for about a year, I still
 really feel like a newb. Lol.

 On 12/1/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Lindsay, I'm a solo sort of chap myself so I  appreciate the point.

 when looking at areas, take careful note of the level of each 
area when you


 use the nearby command or similar. if your soloing, avoid areas over your
 level and even be careful with some areas around your level. 
also, make sure


 you have abilities to handle things in the game you will run across while
 soloing, for example healing yourself, removing status effects etc, 
 necro mninians can also help a lot with this as can clerric spells, and of
 course having warrior skills to increase your staminer and hp 
help as well.


 Hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lindsay Cowell lindsay.cow...@virginmedia.com
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:25 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Alter aeon


I play alter aeon but enjoy being on my own but I struggle 
finding areas. I


play a few characters on there, one of them is Deborah, but forgotten the
rest. How do I find areas to solo?

 Lindsay Cowell.


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Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game

2013-12-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

I can sort of relate to that although my situation is a bit different.
When I was growing up I use to play board and card games with my mom
and her friends, but when I got into my teens etc those friendly
gatherings were few and far between. There was a long stretch where I
didn't play any card or board games with anyone until I got married.
After Esther and I got married we use to play games like Monopoly
frequently, but now that we are in the mitts of a divorce I'd say I
will probably have little opportunity to play a standard card or board
game with someone else unless I do so with my son or something like
that. For me these days an electronic/software version is more likely
what I will have to be content with.

Cheers!


On 12/2/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 I must say its been years since I have been
 playing with family board or card games in the physical case anymore.
 There was a time back in the past before people
 really got busy with life we would use to do that.
 Sadly thats mostly gone now.
 Even when we are away unless we part with almost
 every bit of tech we have including our phones,
 tablets and computers which we can't really do
 fully, we end up playing with those instead of the games.


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