Re: [Audyssey] Mush Z Is Messed Up
download a copy of mush z from the following url. it has the history plug in you are looking for: http://backup.mush-z.com/ - Original Message - From: "Hunter Jozwiak" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Mush Z Is Messed Up Hi folks, Do to technical issues, I had to reinstall Mush Z to my flash drive. But now, I don't have the little history thing that I could get to by pressing control tab. That, and my speech keeps repeating something. It's like this: Welcome to Alter Aeon. Welcome to Alter Aeon. How do I fix those issues? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
well I wander if you can get instructions for hotels and rules etc you could convert it to a pc game or get jim kitchen to do it, I am interested in playing this at least on the laptop. At 10:18 PM 12/4/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun: Hmm...I don't know of that game specifically, but there have been many clones of Monopoly out there. One of my favorites was a game called Hotels where you went around the world building famous hotels. It was a lot cooler than Monopoly, but unfortunately I no longer have a copy of that game since my wife absconded with it. In any case I disagree with you that computer games are inherently superior to the board games themselves. Yeah, we can play them ourselves, but there is much to recommend an actual board game over a computer game. For one thing if you have family to play them with it gives you and the family a chance to sit down and interact with one another. Something that is really missing in today's society. Another thing is board games gives us something tactile to feel. Most games comes with plastic or metal figures we can feel to get an idea of what they look like. We can feel the little plastic ships, buildings, and other things which gives us something more than just our imagination to go on. You are probably right to a point that many younger people are less and less interested in card and board games and are addicted to console and PC games. I blame their parents for that as it is up to the parents to teach their children balance. While I have purchased a Wii for my son and he plays a lot of video games I also have made sure to give him standard games like Monopoly, Trouble, Sorry, etc as I think it is important that he learns to enjoy both the way I did growing up. Cheers! On 12/3/13, shaun everiss wrote: > One of the games I still miss was based on the monopoly concept. > You were trying to become the presidant of a company. > if you failed you would become the cleaner. > It was visual but I got materials and designed a board with cardboard > and foil and with some braille dice and cards and some monopoly > tokens was able to play. > The game was called ulsas but I never played it more than twice > before things got hectic. > To be honest, I played all my games before 2000, before 1995 for 5 > years I had almost no pc and then only a 386. > in 1996 I got a pc but still was able to play. > after 2002 or there abouts that got less till now. > I have an xp system and a win7 system. > everyone has tablets and phones. > I think if there was a way to turn off all devices and the net I'd do it > again. > But there is email, social network, online games and sometimes I find > myself just happily mucking round on youtube or slothing round on the > pc when I know I shouldn't. > I have tried to keep my reading alive but the scary thing is I could > happily stop reading braille in fact stop doing everything I used to > do when taught how to be blind to use the net. > It may actually happen with others. > Family that used to have time to play afterwork are so tired after > looking at a screen all day they want to blob.Ofcause computer games > are ofcause more superior than the crappy board ones, yet I still miss it. > When the only thing you could hear would be the weather outside, when > all you did in the next hour or less was get another coffee. > That doesn't happen so much. > And sadly a lot born into this age of consoles and other things may > never play a game in their lives. > I know, my cousins were born into the borg universe. > They adapted a lot. > They have played a few ugio games and some monopoly but most of it is > simply the computer. > They would probably play all night and day if they were not told to > get off their consoles. > Its why I made an effort to stay off social networks but much as I > have tried, most of what I do is to be online all day and all night. > Something new always comes up and when there isn't I end up mucking > round chewing bandwidth listening to stupid vids, but not being able > to get off again really. > Some days like today the net calms down enough for me to think of > times gone by. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you ha
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Well on the pluss side, a lot of the mainstream devices have some or at least enough access to go for some general use. My high quality philips recorder for example has enough access via its layout for me to use it without any real issues. my soni recorders always had enouch access to core functions. I think the only way way to really get our prices to drop is not going after the blind product manufacturers like freedom scientiffic but try to get mainstream stuff that will do just as well if not better and try to get stuff that will benifit all not just a sertain disability. We need to despecialise as much as we can. My laptop for example has a free reader and a comercial one with bundled extras. while its still expensive up front it used to cost a lot more for specialised equipment. Now we will still be in that groove if we need anything advanced but the same goes for the rest of the normal people. its just it may cost us the extra hundred more than average. If we can get the minor to mid range stuff to be cheaper, and have advanced capabilities that are pricy as they are anyway, we may have a better time of it. Thats actually started to happen especially with todays smartphone tech. And the fact we can run on any os and almost any computer that has linux, windows or mac or something like it which is most of the oses to date at least. We need to also point out what so called blindness devices are good for with sighted to. Examples, clocks and alarms, timers, etc. Keyboard shortcuts locater dots magnification programs, ocr stuff even screenreaders have applications for the sighted. I think we should work towards as much as we can previding access for all, instead of access to us since everyone else uses inaccessable software. Saying that you asked me that question a few years back and I'd be all for taking the loosers down, all of em. But that was another time I guess. At 11:37 PM 12/4/2013, you wrote: Hi tom. Well while I agree on material costs, at the same time as you said yourself the markup is frankly insane on access products, because it's a captive and small markit manufacturers of accessible goods and providers of accessible services basically charge through the roof. I think the worst I ever saw was a device composed of an infra red sensor and buzzer. The idea was you could put the sensor on an object or your seet etc, and press the buzzer to have it bleep so you could locate it at a distance by hearing. yes, a very handy device, but not at £350, that is around 600 usd! Heck, I know very little about electronics but even I! could make a guess about how the circuites in those worked, and don't they sell novelty key ring finders that do the same thing for about 1£10? In fairness this isn't just with blindness, wheel chairs, hoists and other equipment for physically disabled people is just as ridiculous, also there are some accessible devices which aren't gougingly priced. I was quite impressed for example to find that the pen friend labelling system I use cost exactly £50 for the initial unit, and packs of 500 labels would cost another £7. Of course annoyingly the rnib won't actually let you buy packs of just the size you want and only sells two basic selections, but there you go. Still this shows not everything accessible has to be insanely expensive, even if the raw materials will put the price up somewhat. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Well then you are lucky. It seems these days especially when on holiday in the times we can get out which does not seem that often since just about everyone bar me ofcause has a job and a life, board games are talked about and sometimes brought but usually by the time we get to them it just doesn't happen. Isn't meaning that there will not be a time, in a couple years and sertainly in the next 10 or so years most of the older family will probably retire and then maybe, there will be time though its been so long I fear I may have forgotten how to play board games. At 10:47 PM 12/4/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom. You do certainly have a point there, certainly in my family with three visually impared people, two of whome, (my mum and I), braille users, brailling board games is something we've done for years. Indeed over christmas we'll probably play some card games or maybe Yachzee, and if we play Yachtzee my mum and I will both braille score sheets. Although when I investigated getting fighting fantasy books done, I was told that the cost would be prhibitive, which is of course the concern since while braille embossing isn't itself an intrinsically expensive process as usual with anything to do with accessibility, you can put on several extra zeroes. I actually got a great example of this recently when going to Tgi fridays with my brother. This is one of the few restaurant chains in the Uk that has braille menus, (I assume they do in the states as well). However, their braille menu is about two years out of date, and still shows things they no longer serve, not to mention missing off their specialist offer. when I asked why this was I was told that getting a new braille menu embossed would be too expensive. This isn't to say it's a bad idea, just that with any coorporation I am scheptical of motives, still if you don't ask, you don't find out. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Well tom I have had to buy braille paper from my local blind org and for members it can be quite cheap. but for normal schools and such or anyone that is not a member the paper can cost upwards of 200-400 dollars a rheme. something like 50 up a sheet and thats just standard grades. Though to be honest in this day and age previding you have access to such and are funded the price of getting a braille display or note taker and maybe the right conversion tools and such electronic brf files are quite inexpensive to produce once you spent the up front costs on a unit and the translater programs ofcause. As for an embosser, If you have access to one there aparently is a language to turn your documents into scripted programs to be printed. I was offered to learn once a long time ago the language to code my own docs and to have access to the unit remotely in question but it never got off the ground doesn't mean that some time down the road I may try, I'd actually like to try and see if I could program my own document. At 11:14 PM 12/4/2013, you wrote: Hi Dark: Well, there is some truth to braille embossing being prohibitively expensive compared to a print book or menu. I remember when I was in high school and one of the complaints my local high school had about taking me on as a mainstream student was the cost of getting my textbooks from APH. I was absolutely floored to discover while the average print textbook was about $25 APH was asking for about $2,000 per textbook in braille. That was absolutely insane, but now that I have gotten a bit older and wiser I understand why. For one thing it probably cost them $50 for a standard box of braille paper, and twice that if they used the plastic sheeting used in most textbooks. So figure about $100 tops for the blank pages. The plastic binders they put the books in probably added another $20 or so to bind the books. So just in raw materials we have already increased the cost by a factor of 5. I suspect the rest of the cost was markup on APH's part to pay employees and the use of their equipment. The thing is if I ask company x to braille this or that book, a gamebook for example, they are naturally going to go to APH to have it done not knowing that the raw materials while expensive are a fraction of what APH etc will actually charge them for the final product. That cost of course will get put off onto us, the customer, and that is why you will get the typical its prohibitively expensive type response from companies, because they aren't going to invest in the equipment etc to do it themselves, and even if they did the cost of the materials would cost a bit more than standard printed materials doubling or tripling the cost of the final product. Cheers! On 12/4/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > You do certainly have a point there, certainly in my family with three > visually impared people, two of whome, (my mum and I), braille users, > brailling board games is something we've done for years. Indeed over > christmas we'll probably play some card games or maybe Yachzee, and if we > play Yachtzee my mum and I will both braille score sheets. > > Although when I investigated getting fighting fantasy books done, I was told > > that the cost would be prhibitive, which is of course the concern since > while braille embossing isn't itself an intrinsically expensive process as > usual with anything to do with accessibility, you can put on several extra > zeroes. > > I actually got a great example of this recently when going to Tgi fridays > with my brother. This is one of the few restaurant chains in the Uk that > has braille menus, (I assume they do in the states as well). However, their > > braille menu is about two years out of date, and still shows things they no > > longer serve, not to mention missing off their specialist offer. > > when I asked why this was I was told that getting a new braille menu > embossed would be too expensive. > > This isn't to say it's a bad idea, just that with any coorporation I am > scheptical of motives, still if you don't ask, you don't find out. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.
Re: [Audyssey] Old accessible computer games.
Well ken my first games were the pcs games when I had dos, and some of the interactive fiction titles. Then jim kitchens games, lonewolf, trek 2k and shades of doom. I was there for that to start off. I especially enjoyed the shooting range by pcs and the panza game. However the first game I played came from a mojo installer disk my friend had called intergalactic battle that was half graphical. You had klingons, orions and federation. you could destroy things with ease, do stratogies and stuff. it was probably the old tos era though. For its time it was really good especially since that series was still on the tvs. I also played a few other games to but forgot what those were. That was in the days when I truely had a dos machine. At 11:45 PM 12/4/2013, you wrote: My favorite of the old ones was the PCS junkyard. I especially loved blowing up the propane tank and the cuckoo clock. I seldom played the other games of the program, because I was just too busy blowing stuff up. Their snipe hunting game was pretty fun too, and their cops game. The first audio games i ever played were Jim Kitchen's games, but he's kept those all up to date so we aren't missing out there. Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . Also, check out, "The Believer and Skeptic Show," at iTunes! If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . - Original Message - From: "Lindsay Cowell" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Old accessible computer games. What old accessible computer games do people remember? Where are they available from? What do you need to play them nowadays? Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
I never got into a board game club, the family is always pestering me to get involved in something, sports, and other things. Though I did do something about one of the things I was told to do I never followed through with things on a serious level. I know a lot of my religious friends play dnd games and I have some interest in that but to be honest havn't really touched that either. At 11:45 PM 12/4/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom. Looking at my university society's page, there are societies for chess, Backgammon, Poker and indeed Bridge, so people are definitely playing these sorts of games. I might have the name of monster city battle wrong, before you go looking let me ask my brother for the exact details, I'm also not sure about how well it works as a two player game, though I'd be interested to know if you did get to braille it. From my brothers' description it featured a boardd marked with squares including the city at the center which you needed to destroy, and a pack of cards with things like special weapons and abilities. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] King of Tokyo board game
never heard about all those. The only games I got were monopoly standard popomatic standard, life standard snakes and ladders, ludo an cludo standard. happily families and a few others but no modified boards. About the only gaming purchace I have done in the last 10 years is upgrade the cheaper and crappyer quality cardboard cards I had with good plastic ones because they do not wrip easily. At 12:47 AM 12/5/2013, you wrote: Hi Phil. Nice job, that is indeed it, since those were the rules my brother mentioned. Of course, though the dice use symbols it'd be easy enough to use braille dice, and braille the cards, though the board could be interesting. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] King of Tokyo board game Hi Dark, I think this game is what you are writing about: King of Tokyo by IELLO from Amazon: $25.19 In King of Tokyo, you play mutant monsters, gigantic robots, and strange aliens, all of whom are destroying Tokyo and whacking each other in order to become the one and only King of Tokyo. At the start of each turn, you roll six dice. The dice show the following six symbols: 1, 2 or 3 Victory Points, Energy, Heal and Attack. Over three successive throws, choose whether to keep or discard each die in order to win victory points, gain energy, restore health, or attack other players into understanding that Tokyo is YOUR territory. The fiercest player will occupy Tokyo, and earn extra victory points, but that player can't heal and must face all the other monsters alone! Top this off with special cards purchased with energy that have a permanent or temporary effect, such as the growing of a second head which grants you an additional die, body armor, nova death ray, and more and it's one of the most explosive games of the year! In order to win the game, one must either destroy Tokyo by accumulating 20 victory points, or be the only surviving monster once the fighting has ended. For 2-6 players Takes about 30 minutes to play From Richard Garfield, the designer of Magic: The Gathering. Recommended ages: 8 to 15. Yahtzee with a twist!, November 26, 2012 By Kingston Lee King of Tokyo is a dice and card game where you are one of 6 Monsters trying to take over Tokyo. I found this to be a very fun and easy to learn (and teach) family game. There is a lot of luck (and some strategy) involved so anyone can win. There are two ways to win: 1. Get the most Victory Points 2. Be the last monster standing How a turn works: 1. Roll your dice 2. Re-roll the dice you do not want 3. Re-roll the dice you do not want (again!) 4. Count the results of your roll. The roll can either give you energy points, victory points, heal your monster, or attack other monsters. If you roll energy points, you can purchase upgrade cards to give your monster extra abilities to gain an advantage over your foes. If you roll victory points, you get closer to winning the game by points. When rolling attacks, there are specific rules that you should remember. When standing in Tokyo, you attack all the monsters outside of Tokyo. When standing outside of Tokyo, you attack the monster in Tokyo. Only one monster can be in Tokyo at a time (unless playing with 5-6 players, there's a second area of Tokyo to rule). When rolling heals, you can only heal when you are outside of Tokyo. This makes it more difficult for the guy trying to stay as the ruler of Tokyo. How to gain victory points: 1. Roll 3 of a kinds with the numbered dice 2. Take over or stay in Tokyo 3. Buy cards that add victory points http://www.amazon.com/IELLO-IEL-51032-King-Tokyo/dp/B004U5R5BI --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages a
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Charles, Oh, I don't disagree with that. The cost for a standard deck of braille playing cards is outrageous even though they do last longer and have large print on them. It is easier, if one has a braille writer, just to buy a standard deck of cards and braille them yourself. Cheers! On 12/6/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > They do last longer, but I found the high cost, well, too high. I bought > some pinochle cards, and had to buy two decks if we were going to play > double deck. $40 for pinochle cards was too much when comparing it to $4. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Shaun, That is insane. I think it only costs me on average about $50 for a ream of braille paper. Of course, I haven't purchased any in a long time so costs could have gone up, but it never cost me nearly what you are saying it costs for you guys down in New Zealand for braille paper. As for producing brf files I agree it is rather inexpensive. the problem is, as you already know, not everyone has access to a braille display, notetaker, etc and can read brf documents. So The next best alternative would be for a company to put their manuals in html or some standard format that can be read on any platform with any screen reader with voice or braille and forget it. Cheers! On 12/4/13, shaun everiss wrote: > Well tom I have had to buy braille paper from my local blind org and > for members it can be quite cheap. > but for normal schools and such or anyone that is not a member the > paper can cost upwards of 200-400 dollars a rheme. > something like 50 up a sheet and thats just standard grades. > Though to be honest in this day and age previding you have access to > such and are funded the price of getting a braille display or note > taker and maybe the right conversion tools and such electronic brf > files are quite inexpensive to produce once you spent the up front > costs on a unit and the translater programs ofcause. > As for an embosser, If you have access to one there aparently is a > language to turn your documents into scripted programs to be printed. > I was offered to learn once a long time ago the language to code my > own docs and to have access to the unit remotely in question but it > never got off the ground doesn't mean that some time down the road I > may try, I'd actually like to try and see if I could program my own > document. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] google chrome, chromevox, and games
well not that I use it but there is an opensource chromium which does work. This is the dev release of chrome, when the releases become chrome google put their own stuff to make that version chrome.Its this extra which makes it bad. At 03:37 AM 12/5/2013, you wrote: That's one thing I forgot to mention in my post as to why I give Google Chrome a negative rating. The people I know, as well as myself, are JAWS users. That might also be the problem. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] google chrome, chromevox, and games Hi Nicol: I do not know about Jaws 14 but the latest Google Chrome works very well with NVDA 2013.3. If you don't want to use the NVDA screen reader Google Chrome has its own screen reader, Chromevox, which also does a fair job with Google Chrome too. So it can be made fairly accessible if you know what you are doing and have the right screen reader, but I have never tried it with Jaws. On 12/3/13, Nicol wrote: Is the google chrome web browser accessible with jaws14? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Well mar-dy have not been forthcoming with codes as of late but on a more serious issue, though the game does run on my win7 machine in admin mode I do get errors with html modules and game does not run right. I wish I knew before I spent the cash on it. At 03:47 AM 12/5/2013, you wrote: One computer game that has been referred to as "sort of like Monopoly on steroids" is Mississippi. Tom: You are absolutely right about the importance of board games when it comes to human interaction. We used to do a lot of summer vacationing on the Colorado river. Pinochle cards, a tactual version of Monopoly, and a copy of Yahtzee were always taken. I kept my score using a slate and stylus and blank braille paper, the cards were brailled, and we had fun during the evenings if the weather was bad. This was before I found computers or games played on them. Later on, a chess set was added. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game Hi Shaun: Hmm...I don't know of that game specifically, but there have been many clones of Monopoly out there. One of my favorites was a game called Hotels where you went around the world building famous hotels. It was a lot cooler than Monopoly, but unfortunately I no longer have a copy of that game since my wife absconded with it. In any case I disagree with you that computer games are inherently superior to the board games themselves. Yeah, we can play them ourselves, but there is much to recommend an actual board game over a computer game. For one thing if you have family to play them with it gives you and the family a chance to sit down and interact with one another. Something that is really missing in today's society. Another thing is board games gives us something tactile to feel. Most games comes with plastic or metal figures we can feel to get an idea of what they look like. We can feel the little plastic ships, buildings, and other things which gives us something more than just our imagination to go on. You are probably right to a point that many younger people are less and less interested in card and board games and are addicted to console and PC games. I blame their parents for that as it is up to the parents to teach their children balance. While I have purchased a Wii for my son and he plays a lot of video games I also have made sure to give him standard games like Monopoly, Trouble, Sorry, etc as I think it is important that he learns to enjoy both the way I did growing up. Cheers! On 12/3/13, shaun everiss wrote: One of the games I still miss was based on the monopoly concept. You were trying to become the presidant of a company. if you failed you would become the cleaner. It was visual but I got materials and designed a board with cardboard and foil and with some braille dice and cards and some monopoly tokens was able to play. The game was called ulsas but I never played it more than twice before things got hectic. To be honest, I played all my games before 2000, before 1995 for 5 years I had almost no pc and then only a 386. in 1996 I got a pc but still was able to play. after 2002 or there abouts that got less till now. I have an xp system and a win7 system. everyone has tablets and phones. I think if there was a way to turn off all devices and the net I'd do it again. But there is email, social network, online games and sometimes I find myself just happily mucking round on youtube or slothing round on the pc when I know I shouldn't. I have tried to keep my reading alive but the scary thing is I could happily stop reading braille in fact stop doing everything I used to do when taught how to be blind to use the net. It may actually happen with others. Family that used to have time to play afterwork are so tired after looking at a screen all day they want to blob.Ofcause computer games are ofcause more superior than the crappy board ones, yet I still miss it. When the only thing you could hear would be the weather outside, when all you did in the next hour or less was get another coffee. That doesn't happen so much. And sadly a lot born into this age of consoles and other things may never play a game in their lives. I know, my cousins were born into the borg universe. They adapted a lot. They have played a few ugio games and some monopoly but most of it is simply the computer. They would probably play all night and day if they were not told to get off their consoles. Its why I made an effort to stay off social networks but much as I have tried, most of what I do is to be online all day and all night. Something new always comes up and when there isn't I end up mucking round chewing bandwidth listening to stupid vids, but not being able to get off again really. Some days like today the net calms down enough for me to think of ti
Re: [Audyssey] New Game Controller for Pc
well it all depends on what you want. Lotitech still arguably make the best sticks /pads, though I have heard from a hard core gamer that plays that force feedback although good does sacrofice some positional information especially with centering. He recomended the ms prosition sticks but these are large heavy metal things which to be honest you probably do not want. I don't have space for an actual stick myself but I think I may end up with some gamepad, there is a philips one but to be honest I have only needed keyboard and mouse so far so I am not sure. At 08:48 AM 12/5/2013, you wrote: Hi Everyone, Sorry its been a long time since I posted last but I haven't been on the list for a while. Since its Christmas time I thought I'd ask santa for a new game controller for My pc. My old game controller is just about shot. Can any one recommend a new game controller for my PC I am using windows seven home edition. I am primarily looking for a game pad. Thank you all very much for any help. If You have questions please feel free to email me at scull...@optonline.net Regards, Steve Cullen --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Shaun, I am sure I could. After all, I use to own the game and remember most of the rules from memory. About the only thing I don't remember right off the top of my head is the prices for each hotel, the costs of the swimming pools, and the various properties to build the hotels on. I am sure I can either find that info out on the Internet or I can call my mom and have her look up that info in her copy of the game. Either way if and when I have time to think about writing such a game I am sure it can be done. Cheers! On 12/4/13, shaun everiss wrote: > well I wander if you can get instructions for hotels and rules etc > you could convert it to a pc game or get jim kitchen to do it, I am > interested in playing this at least on the laptop. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Dark, That is one thing I do appreciate about the commercial braille cards. They have braille in the top left-hand corner and in the bottom right-hand corner so it does not matter if it is upside down as you can still read the card. As you said it is not complicated to replicate that feature, but I have always been too lazy to do it myself. Cheers! On 12/6/13, dark wrote: > Well it's true about the larger symbols, that actually helps me since I > appreciate being able to use my vision as well as the braille when playing. > > I also like the fact that with braille cards the braille symbols are always > > in the corners at the top and bottom so that it doesn't matter if your card > > is upside down, though of course with careful enough brailling that would be > > possible to replicate. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Hi Dark, Well, you are absolutely right it all depends on the group in question and the game at hand. I have never had the fortune of meeting anyone in my area would sit down with me and play a game of Jim Kitchen's Life or Monopoly, but I have been able to find some people who will sit down and play the standard board games with me. It seems to me a brailed board game with print and braille is the best and most universal way for us as blind and low vision gamers to play along with our sighted friends and family as equals rather than just tagging along. I know some gamers here and on Audiogames.net have become masters at fighting games for XBox and Play Station, can hold their own against sighted opponents, but that someone is not me. So while I suppose I could invite people over to play Play Station or XBox I am not that good at it to really get much pleasure out of it the way some people do. Moreover it takes a lot of practice and work for a blind gamer to compete in such games. A board game I can pick up and begin playing in minutes as long as it is properly accessible and I know the rules where video games require weeks of practice to become decent at let alone a master at. So as you said anyone can pick up a board game and play it out of the box making it a more universal thing. Cheers! On 12/5/13, dark wrote: > Hi tom. > > while I agree that card and board games do have value as games to play with > > others, at the same time computer games can have a similar feeling provided > > you have a group of like minded individuals together and provided the game > is one that several people can have fun with rather than say a flight sim or > > complex stratogy game that requires massive attention. > > I remember the occasion when i still lived in colidge where a couple of > friends of mine visited me, but managed to turn up an hour early so I was in > > the shower. In defference of what to do, I literally yelled instructions > through the bathroom door (I was living in one room in colidge with a single > > attached bathroom), for them to start up Jim Kitchin's game of life, and we > > played that while I finished my shower. > > that was hilarious and good fun as well. > > As well as playing Talisman and King of Tokio, my brother also regularly > plays the marrio party games with his friends as well, which are intended as > > exactly what they say, ie party games, like computerised board games on the > > Wii. He also has recently bought the new Pokemon game and a 3ds, and when > not playing a ccg with his friends they also challenge each other to Pokemon > > battles. Of course, since my brother is a major CCG player, he knows plenty > > of people who do that sort of thing, and indeed if the games (of either > computerised or not), were accessible odds are I'd do the same more often > with my rp friends. > > It all seems to depend upon the games involved and the group of people and > what they choose to do, though I will say where as computer games, even > casual ones like marrio party or Jim Kitchin's are something of their own > interest, anyone can pick up a good amount of board games and play them out > > of the box, making them a far more universal thing. > > That is another reason I'd love to see more accessible interesting games. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] playing old games in windows7
Hi all. I got really bored out of my tree today and decided to look at my list of tweaking and hacking tasks. Since the major part of that list was really empty of jobs I went way down and discovered the issue of playing sound in old games like shades of doom and gtc right. I can't find the actual article that inspired me to do this but its on howtogeek somewhere. Its something like how to get legacy games to run in windows with 3d sound effects or something like that. The article covered 4 manufacturers, creative, asus, realtech and there was another I forget. Firstly, eax1 and 2 as well as hardware exeleration just died in anything over xp. So you need something to convert it to the open al standard as this avenue is open. In some cases ie creative there is a program called alchemy, in the case of asus its all in the drivers using a bit of software called zonos. With realtech its 3d soundback. If you have a soundmax or a via then you are probably out of luck though and I am not sure about other cards. Every bit of software has different procedures but I will start with realtech since its what I know. I am using for this my toshiba i5 c830 sattelite with 4gb ram win7 32 bit (x86). Firstly I should warn you that though you get your 3d fx back, its not really perfect, and you don't get to adjust things as you would like it all depends on what emulation your manufacturer has put in place. Firstly search google for the realtech hd audio codecs and there should be a link to tywan which has the stuff, its the official site realtech.com.tw. Anyway you will be on a page. scroll to the language box and if you are not an english speaker change it. Firstly scroll down and click the checkbox for the licence and hit next. You will get a bigger page. The list comes up. firstly I'd update your drivers you can do this if you want, but you may not need to but they will appear. At the end of the list of windows apps is 3d soundback 0.1 beta. Its really old and I wander why no one tried to improve it. download the file and save it in downloads or whatever. open the downloads folder when it comes. before that happens you will need to select the server, some servers can be slower than others. you have not many choices though. 2 asian servers. 1 europe server in uk and 3 us servers. once you have the file downloaded. go to your downloads folder I just run from winkey and r and go downloads. there is a zip. extract the zip how ever you want to the downloads folder. it will create a folder called 3d soundback. open that. run the setup and just hit next till its done then finnish. Now here is the tricky part. hit start and type 3d. 3d soundback should come up. right click the shortcut and go to properties. you will want to run the program in compatability mode and then select windows vista, not sp1 or anything just vista. if you don't have the right version the game will not run at all. hit ok. in start type 3d again. 3d soundback will come up. hit add and select the folders to add then change your buffer size min range is 10 max is 99. its almost done. hit enable on each game you have added and you are done and ready to rock sort of anyway. The major drawbacks. 1. since this emulation when you get to wrapping points of menus and a few other things it can sound really rough. Also no matter what sound mode you choose in shades of doom or tank omander, 3d mode is always on. You will have to get used to it but at least it does work on 7. Its a pitty realtech never completed their stuff but even so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New Game Controller for Pc
That really is not good tom. I guess you could pick up the xbox1 or other controler but still. I suspect from what I have seen at computer shops that for the most part bar consoles, a lot of stuff is full blown sticks now. And a lot of that is specialised for things like flight or racing. There are some general purpose sticks but that is becomming less now. At 08:04 PM 12/5/2013, you wrote: Hi Steve, Well, I have been looking into this issue myself, and unfortunately most manufacturers are no longer producing game pads for the PC. Your best bet is to get an XBox 360 controller from Microsoft with a PC adapter if you care about Windows 7 and Windows 8 compatibility. For some reason Logitech, Philips, and others are still making controllers but not 64-bit drivers for newer PCs. Meaning if you get a new Logitech controller and you have a 64-bit PC you have to depend on the generic Microsoft drivers which may not fully support the controller such as force feedback and some programmable buttons etc. Cheers! On 12/4/13, Steve Cullen wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Sorry its been a long time since I posted last but I haven't been on the > list for a while. > Since its Christmas time I thought I'd ask santa for a new game controller > for My pc. My old game controller is just about shot. > Can any one recommend a new game controller for my PC I am using windows > seven home edition. I am primarily looking for a game pad. Thank you all > very much for any help. If You have questions please feel free to email me > at > scull...@optonline.net > Regards, > Steve Cullen > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Well I think access should be all and not just for sertain dissabilities. Blind products should be called blind products. Yeah I know thats really bad mouthing the blind but accessable implies total access to everyone. One issue with some of this is to make stuff accessable for say the blind because say graphics are not something we use we get rid of them and then its inaccessable to the sighted. I once decided to get some equipment that was large print or at least invest in some and was told by a friend that because it was for the blind, it was not nice. I was quite mad at the guy but then I started wandering. Is it because we don't see we disreguard what others think of how our stuff looks? If we are going to be fully accessable to all that means being concidderate of all. By making stuff accessable to us are we in fact doing what the sighted do to us by making their stuff unusable because of graphics and other things. I know tech is getting closer but I do wander how long it will be before we will seriously need to think of dumping all blindness technology in favor of universal access. I am not saying its all bad ofcause, heck I'd like to use blind tech all the time but by doing it I do wander if I am excluding myself from normal life, and after all we are supposed to be trying to have that. So I wander if we are being counterproductive. At 08:39 PM 12/5/2013, you wrote: Hi Dark: Oh, yes. Any time something is developed for the blind, is marketed as an access product, the cost is insane. Not because it costs that much to actually make it, but because we are a captive minority market. As you mentioned the novelty key ring finders only cost perhaps $5 USD if that. In fact I use to have one where I could whistle and it would start beeping to help me locate my keys. Since it was marketed as a novelty item it was real cheap. I am sure if it was made for the blind, marketed as a specialty item, I'd be looking at a key ring that costs at least $50instead of $5 just because you can multiply the cost by a factor of 10 being a specialty item. I know when it comes to card and board games they definitely cost a lot more than their mainstream counterparts. I think a deck of braille playing cards is like $19 when a sighted person can go to Dollar General or Family Dollar and get a standard deck for a dollar. Something like Monopoly is about $50 for a braille set when a standard Monopoly game is between $19 and $29 depending on if it is standard Monopoly or a collectors edition. However, I agree that even excluding material costs I don't think it actually costs that much to produce accessible products. At least not the cost we have to pay to get them from In dependant Living Aids, RNIB, whatever. I know for a fact that the actual cost of making some of those products is a fraction of what they actually charge for it. Cheers! On 12/4/13, dark wrote: > Hi tom. > > Well while I agree on material costs, at the same time as you said yourself > > the markup is frankly insane on access products, because it's a captive and > > small markit manufacturers of accessible goods and providers of accessible > services basically charge through the roof. I think the worst I ever saw was > > a device composed of an infra red sensor and buzzer. The idea was you could > > put the sensor on an object or your seet etc, and press the buzzer to have > it bleep so you could locate it at a distance by hearing. > > yes, a very handy device, but not at £350, that is around 600 usd! > > Heck, I know very little about electronics but even I! could make a guess > about how the circuites in those worked, and don't they sell novelty key > ring finders that do the same thing for about 1£10? > > In fairness this isn't just with blindness, wheel chairs, hoists and other > equipment for physically disabled people is just as ridiculous, also there > are some accessible devices which aren't gougingly priced. I was quite > impressed for example to find that the pen friend labelling system I use > cost exactly £50 for the initial unit, and packs of 500 labels would cost > another £7. > > Of course annoyingly the rnib won't actually let you buy packs of just the > > size you want and only sells two basic selections, but there you go. > > Still this shows not everything accessible has to be insanely expensive, > even if the raw materials will put the price up somewhat. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mai
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly-type games - Re: Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Well speaking of memmories tom, I was on holiday about 4 years back with several friends. At nights we would have monopoly tourniments lasting the entire holiday. Games would go from 6 till midnight and beyond. One day we got oup late due to one of such games having meals at weird times only to get back into the game again and go all night. That sadly has all gone for the most part. At 09:02 PM 12/5/2013, you wrote: Hi Charles: I had a similar experience growing up. For many years my mom, some family friends, and I would have game nights every Friday or Saturday night where we would play one card or board game well into the night. Especially during the winter when it was too cold to do anything outside. We played Monopoly, Yahtzee, Poker, Uno, and so on. The thing I remember most is the interaction between everyone. We sat around drinking cups of coffee or hot chocolate, munched on chips, and talked. We told stories, exchanged jokes, and added the occasional tease when someone screwed up or won big. The thing is playing computer games just does not have the community interaction or same fun as playing against human opponents. Cheers! On 12/4/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > One computer game that has been referred to as "sort of like Monopoly on > steroids" is Mississippi. > > Tom: You are absolutely right about the importance of board games when it > comes to human interaction. We used to do a lot of summer vacationing on > the Colorado river. Pinochle cards, a tactual version of Monopoly, and a > copy of Yahtzee were always taken. I kept my score using a slate and stylus > > and blank braille paper, the cards were brailled, and we had fun during the > > evenings if the weather was bad. This was before I found computers or games > > played on them. Later on, a chess set was added. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game
Using a Perkins brailler, that's how I always brailled cards. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some practical questions reguarding the Monopoly game Hi Dark, That is one thing I do appreciate about the commercial braille cards. They have braille in the top left-hand corner and in the bottom right-hand corner so it does not matter if it is upside down as you can still read the card. As you said it is not complicated to replicate that feature, but I have always been too lazy to do it myself. Cheers! On 12/6/13, dark wrote: Well it's true about the larger symbols, that actually helps me since I appreciate being able to use my vision as well as the braille when playing. I also like the fact that with braille cards the braille symbols are always in the corners at the top and bottom so that it doesn't matter if your card is upside down, though of course with careful enough brailling that would be possible to replicate. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] playing old games in windows7
(Snip lengthy and detailed description of how to get software 3D emulation using a dangerously unreliable method.) Or you could just install Windows XP into a VM. :) Since this seems to come up once every fortnight or so, let me just assure everyone that the latency imposed by virtualisation is barely noticeable on good host hardware, and that even if VirtualBox is all you can afford you can generally bypass any host translation by using USB audio devices. Honestly, isn't it time we all just moved on? Cheers, Sabahattin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] core exiles
Hi there, I would like to try my hand at Core Exiles, but it asks who referred me. I'd love to give one of you lovely people the credit for that. Please send a note off list if A. you wouldn't mind my using your name and B. if you play there consistently and wouldn't mind assisting a new player. The community sounds really fabulous. Thanks so much. Warmly, Meka --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
