Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread john
I think its probably worth noting here that notepad has some oddities, especially the 
fact that the delete prior word (ctrl backspace) has a habit of adding random
characters to your file, in addition to not working in the first place. A bgt script 
is just a plane text file (you can actually get a game to compile just fine with the 
extensions of your includes as .txt), so any program capable of saving .txt will work 
just fine. I personally prefer worpad or the free word processor jarte, because they 
don't add wierd things to the document and jarte has handy features like line count, 
tabbed documents, and spellcheck).



- Original Message -
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 12:01:42 -0600
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

No no, the BGT engine is just for testing out your script. Your code is
written in a text editor, Notepad being the one most people recommended
since other programs ted to add formatting that'll play havoc with BGT. All
you do is write your code in notepad and, when yousave it, add te extention
.bgt to the filename. This tells BGT that it's a script. THen when you click
on the BGT icon and it asks for the script you open your new script. It'll
either run it or, if there are errors point them out for you.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I
don't!
-Original Message-
From: lenron brown
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 3:44 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

What bgt Icon do I need to click on to start building my game and what
will it say when I open it. When I click on the distop Icon it says
open script but I don't have any scripts to open.

On 6/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Valiant,

Possibly, but the fact of the matter is the scripting component of
BGT, Angelscript, is already open source. I don't know if Philips
script compiler is a completely custom script compiler or one based on
open source examples, but the point here is that someone could
probably use the existing open source examples of Angelscript
compilers to decompile games compiled with BGT if they wanted to. So
keeping BGT as closed source for that reason alone might be giving
developers a sense of false security. The thing to remember is if
somebody wants to hack or crack something bad enough they will. The
question is not if they can but how hard it is to do it.

Cheers!


On 5/31/14, Valiant8086 valiant8...@gmail.com wrote:
I think open source would be a bad idea probably. If everyone can compile
it
maybe that would mean they could decompile VGA's commercial games written
with it that much easier

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Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden,

Not necessarily. If we are talking open source the complaints or bug
reports would go to the open source project manager not Philip unless
he took up the job of project manager. Not just anyone can edit and
modify source code, and any good open source project has rules and
regulations that prevent just such an occurrence as you mentioned
below. I think a lot of confusion could be avoided if people
understood how open source works rather than just assuming anyone and
their brother can tamper with the stable release of open source
software.

Cheers!


On 6/1/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:
 And, of course, there will always be those who will grab a tampered copy,
 find that it has ajor problems, and send a complaint to Philip about how
 awful the BGT engine is.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread ishan dhami
Hello all.
the idea is so good
according to my friend MR Vallient Philip sir should abandond the software.
the only thing which I can conclude and my suggestion is that Philip
sir should decrease the price of BGT
the actual cost is  $99
it may become $89 or something else.
I hope Philip and other elders will highlight this suggestion
If I am not wrong there is a tutorial of BGT
I tried but I am not able to download it.
I would like to say that Philip sir should decrease the price but not
in abbandanware.
he should sell in shareware.
only q9 will not sufficientfor his livelihood.
If he will complete his game perilous hearts and sell it will be
better for him.
People don't want to purchase they  want crack.
this is the reason that most audio game programmer abbandond their
software and finally discontinued. a recent example is Justin
Dobbinmire.
He made an excellant game Pipe 2 blast chamber but people cracked and
uploaded a pirated copy of his game.
a thing which I encountered in his games is that the registration
programme has a spoiler and people used that and played his games.
I don't know that my suggestion will be helpful for him because I am
very young and inexperienced
I am only 18 years old.
☺
Ishan

On 6/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Lenron,

 The user's guide for BGT comes with BGT, and it is in a help format so
 it is easy to locate chapters and sections of interest. I suggest you
 start with the documentation supplied with BGT, and if that isn't
 enough go to the BGT forum.

 Cheers!


 On 6/1/14, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks is there somewhere to read up on bgt a little more.

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Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread ishan dhami
No bryan I am unable to download the tutorial.
Thanks
☺
Ishan

On 6/2/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:
 And, of course, there will always be those who will grab a tampered copy,
 find that it has ajor problems, and send a complaint to Philip about how
 awful the BGT engine is.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
 Peterson
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

 I definitely agree that open sourcing it seems like a bad idea to me.



 Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
 thy micturations are to me
 as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
 GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me
 with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my
 blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
 -Original Message-
 From: Valiant8086
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:04 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

 I think open source would be a bad idea probably. If everyone can compile
 it
 maybe that would mean they could decompile VGA's commercial games written
 with it that much easier

 On May 31, 2014 7:37:11 PM EDT, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
 wrote:
It all depends on the financial feasibility. If he'd thought it would
benefit im to do cross platform and if he'd had a mack on which to test
the program I'm sure he would have. My questionis can we still do
commercial titles? I've admittedl been lax about my BGT studies in the
last year or so, though it's had more to do with things going on in my
personal life than with BGT itself, but I still do have a deep interest
indeveloping, for myself at least even if not for others.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle
me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts
with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message-
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 5:14 PM
To: phi...@blastbay.com ; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

Oh wow, this is pretty good news. Now if only it were cross-platform,
but I won't expect that for. Another 4 or so years. :)

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 On May 31, 2014, at 16:02, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com
wrote:

 aHi all,

 Over the last few years, BGT has acquired a pretty large user base.
In
 fact, it has become more popular than I could ever have imagined when
I
 first started developing it back in 2009. So in terms of adoption and

 community, it has been a definite success. However, financially the
 picture is a little different. I knew when I first envisioned it that
it
 would not sell very much, seeing as how it is targeting a small
subset of
 the blind community which in itself is not that large to begin with.
 However, over the years it has become apparent just how small the
 potential market is. I have concluded that I can no longer justify
working
 on it to the extent that I did in the beginning, and on top of that I
am
 involved in a lot of other projects which take up the absolute
majority of
 my time.

 For the last few months I have been debating back and forth with
myself
 what the right course of action would be. One option is to simply
make it
 abandonware and forget about it, but I do not like that alternative.
 Another option would be to continue selling it and releasing updates
in
 the little free time that I am able to dedicate to it, but that seems

 unfair to the users who have paid for a product that they expect
updates
 and prompt support for. I dismissed that. The final option that I
have
 actually chosen to go for, is to make the product free but not
abandon it.
 I will continue to maintain it, adding new features as time permits
and
 fixing any bugs that spring up as soon as I can. I will keep the
forum
 online, and I will continue to accept sponsorships from those who
want to
 see a new feature in the engine and are willing to pay a little
something
 for it to happen.

 Simply put, a fully functional version of the engine can now be
downloaded
 free of charge from www.blastbay.com. Be sure to uninstall any prior
 version that you may have on your system before installing this new
one,
 as it contains some minor incompatibilities.

 I will continue to maintain the product as I mentioned previously,
but
 please understand that any emails you send to me with questions about
how
 to write this or that piece of code will probably go unanswered. The
right
 place to ask such questions is the Blastbay forum. I do visit the
forum
 fairly frequently and will continue to respond to queries whenever I
am
 able, but please do not get upset if 

Re: [Audyssey] Question

2014-06-02 Thread ishan dhami
O audyssey is a very cool name.
when you'll update your game data base?
☺!☺?
Ishan

On 6/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Ishan,

 Kevin use to co-moderate the Audyssey list with Brenda during the
 early days of the list. I'd say from 2000 to 2005 or so. Later on he
 took over as list owner while leaving the list up to Raul and I to
 moderate. However, the job of owner has fallen upon me, and I still
 moderate the list myself, and eventually will probably find a couple
 of moderators to take over that part of day to day list management to
 free myself up with other things.

 As for the meaning of the name its nothing too complicated. The word
 odyssey, spelled o d y s s e y, is used to simply mean an adventure or
 quest. However, since most of our games are based on audio Michael
 Feir took the word audio and merged it with odyssey to come up with
 Audyssey, spelled a u d y s s e y, which means an audio adventure.
 Make sense?

 Cheers!


 On 5/31/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Who is Kevin?
 I supposed that a musician named Kevin who gave a rockey music in Super
 liam.
 is he the same kevin who resigned from the moderator's job?
 and what is a litral meaning of audyssey?
 Smilee!
 Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Question

2014-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ishan,

In short, when I have the time. I'm pretty busy with various things
and updating the Audyssey website and database is only one of a
million other things I have to do.

Cheers!


On 6/2/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 O audyssey is a very cool name.
 when you'll update your game data base?
 ☺!☺?
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Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ishan,

Did you read Philip's original post on this topic? The reason I ask is
he did decrease the price of BGT to free. It is impossible to make it
any less than free. The new cost is not $99 but$0. Maybe you should go
back and read what Philip actually said as you seem to be a bit
confused in your post below.

As for the tutorial if you are talking about the audio tutorial I
would not bother with it. That tutorial is out of date. Read the
user's guide and tutorials that come with BGT. They are more up to
date.

Cheers!


On 6/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all.
 the idea is so good
 according to my friend MR Vallient Philip sir should abandond the software.
 the only thing which I can conclude and my suggestion is that Philip
 sir should decrease the price of BGT
 the actual cost is  $99
 it may become $89 or something else.
 I hope Philip and other elders will highlight this suggestion
 If I am not wrong there is a tutorial of BGT
 I tried but I am not able to download it.
 I would like to say that Philip sir should decrease the price but not
 in abbandanware.
 he should sell in shareware.
 only q9 will not sufficientfor his livelihood.
 If he will complete his game perilous hearts and sell it will be
 better for him.
 People don't want to purchase they  want crack.
 this is the reason that most audio game programmer abbandond their
 software and finally discontinued. a recent example is Justin
 Dobbinmire.
 He made an excellant game Pipe 2 blast chamber but people cracked and
 uploaded a pirated copy of his game.
 a thing which I encountered in his games is that the registration
 programme has a spoiler and people used that and played his games.
 I don't know that my suggestion will be helpful for him because I am
 very young and inexperienced
 I am only 18 years old.
 ☺
 Ishan


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Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Ishan,

Please, specify which tutorial you mean. The basic user's guide and
tutorial comes with BGT. Its in a help format so it is easy to look up
things and learn while following along with the tutorials etc.

If you are talking about the audio tutorial Philip had made honestly
that isn't worth your time. It was a nice  idea, but is way out of
date now. Forget about the audio tutorial and start with the docs that
come with BGT.

Cheers!


On 6/2/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 No bryan I am unable to download the tutorial.
 Thanks
 ☺
 Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread Shaun Everiss

I agree tom.
without bgt we wouldn't have got the small indie game industry 
growing up while the big core devs rumble on.
We reached a point and then the industry slowed down I was loosing 
interrest but not now its true there are a few small project quite a 
lot of them.
I am testing in at least 2-3 groups that use bgt and other languages 
but started with bgt and am in another one which has just come up.


At 09:48 p.m. 1/06/2014, you wrote:

Hi Philip,

Thanks for all the hard work you have done to bring us this great
product. I think considering the situation you are making the right
decision. I don't believe abandoning it and releasing it as
abandonware would have been the right thing, but equally if you can't
support the product commercially then releasing it as freeware is the
next best thing. It alleviates the pressure of offering support etc
while still making it available to everyone who wants to use the
product for game development. You have put a lot of time and work into
this project just to let it go as freeware, and for that you deserve
our thanks.

Cheers!


On 5/31/14, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote:
 aHi all,

 Over the last few years, BGT has acquired a pretty large user base. In
 fact, it has become more popular than I could ever have imagined when I
 first started developing it back in 2009. So in terms of adoption and
 community, it has been a definite success. However, financially the
 picture is a little different. I knew when I first envisioned it that it
 would not sell very much, seeing as how it is targeting a small subset
 of the blind community which in itself is not that large to begin with.
 However, over the years it has become apparent just how small the
 potential market is. I have concluded that I can no longer justify
 working on it to the extent that I did in the beginning, and on top of
 that I am involved in a lot of other projects which take up the absolute
 majority of my time.

 For the last few months I have been debating back and forth with myself
 what the right course of action would be. One option is to simply make
 it abandonware and forget about it, but I do not like that alternative.
 Another option would be to continue selling it and releasing updates in
 the little free time that I am able to dedicate to it, but that seems
 unfair to the users who have paid for a product that they expect updates
 and prompt support for. I dismissed that. The final option that I have
 actually chosen to go for, is to make the product free but not abandon
 it. I will continue to maintain it, adding new features as time permits
 and fixing any bugs that spring up as soon as I can. I will keep the
 forum online, and I will continue to accept sponsorships from those who
 want to see a new feature in the engine and are willing to pay a little
 something for it to happen.

 Simply put, a fully functional version of the engine can now be
 downloaded free of charge from www.blastbay.com. Be sure to uninstall
 any prior version that you may have on your system before installing
 this new one, as it contains some minor incompatibilities.

 I will continue to maintain the product as I mentioned previously, but
 please understand that any emails you send to me with questions about
 how to write this or that piece of code will probably go unanswered. The
 right place to ask such questions is the Blastbay forum. I do visit the
 forum fairly frequently and will continue to respond to queries whenever
 I am able, but please do not get upset if you don't hear back from me
 quickly.

 With all this said, I would like to thank everyone who has used and/or
 supported BGT over the years. It has been a labor of love for me and I
 hope that you will all find the unlocked features in the new freeware
 version useful. Continue to make fun games with it and send me a copy of
 your next blockbuster if you feel thus inclined.

 Thank you!

 Kind regards,

 Philip Bennefall

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Re: [Audyssey] How to connect with Mush cliant?

2014-06-02 Thread Shaun Everiss

I have never had that issue but I have always got the latest update.
Saying that there are a few things you should be aware of to try.
update.exe will update your game to the latest
update-lite is update but in the lite mode probably does less stuff.
update-beta is for the cutting edge code.
I have never had issues but I have had it so after a time of playing 
my system will disconnect from the net though who knows what that 
means its random.

probably a bug but not a big one.

At 12:38 p.m. 2/06/2014, you wrote:
Also sometimes in MushZ when you choose the world file it doesn't 
automatically start you connected so you just have to hit the enter 
key and it will ask you if you want to connect just say yes and it 
will connect and you can type in your character name. My guess is 
the same thing is happening with cyber assault as well.


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 1, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote:

 To play Alter Aeon, it's probably best to use Mush-Z instead.  You can
 get it at: http://www.mush-z.com

 Dennis Towne

 Alter Aeon MUD
 http://www.alteraeon.com

 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 10:24 AM, ishan dhami 
ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone!
 I am not able to connect alter aeon and cyber assault with mush cliant.
 Can you tell me step by step method of connecting?
 Every time when I connect it will close.
 Why it is so?
 Smilee!
 Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] free windows client for mud Cyberassault

2014-06-02 Thread Shaun Everiss

aah ok.

At 11:51 p.m. 1/06/2014, you wrote:
To my knowledge there are people using MT on windows 8.1. And I 
myself use it on a 64 bit platform.

Hth,
-Michael.



On 6/1/2014 6:47 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

but isn't monkeyterm not 64 complient and only running on xp?

At 08:05 a.m. 31/05/2014, you wrote:

Steven,

Monkey term supports cyber assault, and one of the game's admins was
working on a sound  pack for it.  You can download the client and I
believe the sound pack at http://valiant8086.com  it's under games,
under muds iirc.  Good luck.

Jeremy


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Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread Bryan Peterson

Then you can read the manual.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: ishan dhami

Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:27 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

No bryan I am unable to download the tutorial.
Thanks
☺
Ishan

On 6/2/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:

And, of course, there will always be those who will grab a tampered copy,
find that it has ajor problems, and send a complaint to Philip about how
awful the BGT engine is.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
Peterson
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:58 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

I definitely agree that open sourcing it seems like a bad idea to me.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me
with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my
blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message-
From: Valiant8086
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:04 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

I think open source would be a bad idea probably. If everyone can compile
it
maybe that would mean they could decompile VGA's commercial games written
with it that much easier

On May 31, 2014 7:37:11 PM EDT, Bryan Peterson 
bpeterson2...@cableone.net

wrote:

It all depends on the financial feasibility. If he'd thought it would
benefit im to do cross platform and if he'd had a mack on which to test
the program I'm sure he would have. My questionis can we still do
commercial titles? I've admittedl been lax about my BGT studies in the
last year or so, though it's had more to do with things going on in my
personal life than with BGT itself, but I still do have a deep interest
indeveloping, for myself at least even if not for others.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle
me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts
with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
-Original Message-
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 5:14 PM
To: phi...@blastbay.com ; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

Oh wow, this is pretty good news. Now if only it were cross-platform,
but I won't expect that for. Another 4 or so years. :)

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On May 31, 2014, at 16:02, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com

wrote:


aHi all,

Over the last few years, BGT has acquired a pretty large user base.

In

fact, it has become more popular than I could ever have imagined when

I

first started developing it back in 2009. So in terms of adoption and



community, it has been a definite success. However, financially the
picture is a little different. I knew when I first envisioned it that

it

would not sell very much, seeing as how it is targeting a small

subset of

the blind community which in itself is not that large to begin with.
However, over the years it has become apparent just how small the
potential market is. I have concluded that I can no longer justify

working

on it to the extent that I did in the beginning, and on top of that I

am

involved in a lot of other projects which take up the absolute

majority of

my time.

For the last few months I have been debating back and forth with

myself

what the right course of action would be. One option is to simply

make it

abandonware and forget about it, but I do not like that alternative.
Another option would be to continue selling it and releasing updates

in

the little free time that I am able to dedicate to it, but that seems



unfair to the users who have paid for a product that they expect

updates

and prompt support for. I dismissed that. The final option that I

have

actually chosen to go for, is to make the product free but not

abandon it.

I will continue to maintain it, adding new features as time permits

and

fixing any bugs that spring up as soon as I can. I will keep the

forum

online, and I will continue to accept sponsorships from those who

want to

see a new feature in the engine and are willing to pay a little

something

for it to happen.

Simply put, a fully functional version of the engine can now be

downloaded

free of charge from www.blastbay.com. Be sure to uninstall any prior
version that you may have on your system before installing this 

Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread Bryan Peterson

It's free now.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: ishan dhami

Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 8:43 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

Hello all.
the idea is so good
according to my friend MR Vallient Philip sir should abandond the software.
the only thing which I can conclude and my suggestion is that Philip
sir should decrease the price of BGT
the actual cost is  $99
it may become $89 or something else.
I hope Philip and other elders will highlight this suggestion
If I am not wrong there is a tutorial of BGT
I tried but I am not able to download it.
I would like to say that Philip sir should decrease the price but not
in abbandanware.
he should sell in shareware.
only q9 will not sufficientfor his livelihood.
If he will complete his game perilous hearts and sell it will be
better for him.
People don't want to purchase they  want crack.
this is the reason that most audio game programmer abbandond their
software and finally discontinued. a recent example is Justin
Dobbinmire.
He made an excellant game Pipe 2 blast chamber but people cracked and
uploaded a pirated copy of his game.
a thing which I encountered in his games is that the registration
programme has a spoiler and people used that and played his games.
I don't know that my suggestion will be helpful for him because I am
very young and inexperienced
I am only 18 years old.
☺
Ishan

On 6/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Lenron,

The user's guide for BGT comes with BGT, and it is in a help format so
it is easy to locate chapters and sections of interest. I suggest you
start with the documentation supplied with BGT, and if that isn't
enough go to the BGT forum.

Cheers!


On 6/1/14, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote:

thanks is there somewhere to read up on bgt a little more.


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Re: [Audyssey] Question

2014-06-02 Thread Bryan Peterson

In the words of Master Yoda, patience, yes, yes.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 9:00 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Question

Hi Ishan,

In short, when I have the time. I'm pretty busy with various things
and updating the Audyssey website and database is only one of a
million other things I have to do.

Cheers!


On 6/2/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

O audyssey is a very cool name.
when you'll update your game data base?
☺!☺?
Ishan


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Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

2014-06-02 Thread Bryan Peterson

Well said Thomas.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 9:08 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT Important Update

Hi Ishan,

Did you read Philip's original post on this topic? The reason I ask is
he did decrease the price of BGT to free. It is impossible to make it
any less than free. The new cost is not $99 but$0. Maybe you should go
back and read what Philip actually said as you seem to be a bit
confused in your post below.

As for the tutorial if you are talking about the audio tutorial I
would not bother with it. That tutorial is out of date. Read the
user's guide and tutorials that come with BGT. They are more up to
date.

Cheers!


On 6/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all.
the idea is so good
according to my friend MR Vallient Philip sir should abandond the 
software.

the only thing which I can conclude and my suggestion is that Philip
sir should decrease the price of BGT
the actual cost is  $99
it may become $89 or something else.
I hope Philip and other elders will highlight this suggestion
If I am not wrong there is a tutorial of BGT
I tried but I am not able to download it.
I would like to say that Philip sir should decrease the price but not
in abbandanware.
he should sell in shareware.
only q9 will not sufficientfor his livelihood.
If he will complete his game perilous hearts and sell it will be
better for him.
People don't want to purchase they  want crack.
this is the reason that most audio game programmer abbandond their
software and finally discontinued. a recent example is Justin
Dobbinmire.
He made an excellant game Pipe 2 blast chamber but people cracked and
uploaded a pirated copy of his game.
a thing which I encountered in his games is that the registration
programme has a spoiler and people used that and played his games.
I don't know that my suggestion will be helpful for him because I am
very young and inexperienced
I am only 18 years old.
☺
Ishan



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