Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion
So apart from trese brothers, any other positive targets dark? Any heads up on who to look out for next or go find? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 04 March 2014 22:41 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Doh, just found that out. Well I'm certainly not going to give the guy money after that response, and if anyone has bought the game, certainly do give it a Zero and state why, then delete the thing and hope someone else does something similar and is a bit less unpleasant. All the best, Drk. - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion > Yeah I think I might actually go and do that. also say why you're giving > it > a 0 star? Note though you can only do that if you have the game. > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark > Sent: 04 March 2014 22:32 > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion > > Well I've had another E-mail and he seems pretty set, which is quite > irritating, indeed I've rarely had as negative a response, usually when > developers respond at all your halfway there. > > I'd recommend people go and give Starbase Orion zero star ratings now, > sinse > this is frankly irritating for a game with such a lot of implicit access > to > begin with. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > - Original Message ----- > From: "Darren Harris" > To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion > > >> Well I was meant to be beta testing accessibility stuff for him ages ago >> but >> it really didn't get anywhere at all. so am not surprised to read this at >> all. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Zachary >> Kline >> Sent: 04 March 2014 19:21 >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion >> >> Hi Dark, >> >> This mirrors my experience when I suggested the same things to him. I >> understand his reasons, bt they are still frustrating. 95% accessible is >> hard to swallow. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:16 AM, dark wrote: >> >>> Well I contacted the developer of starbase orion. >>> >>> he basically said that converting the open gl galaxy map would involve >>> too >> much work and some buggy additions to the program. When i raised the >> issue >> of an alternate display of the same information ala the the >> startraders >> nav menue, he told me he'd already looked into that and decided against >> it. Frankly I doubt his abilities at looking at alternate solutions >> sinse >> genrally speaking most sighted developers are not good at finding >> alternative ways of desplaying graphical map info, which is one reason >> why >> it's often a good idea to discuss these things. >>> >>> The STarbase orion dev just seems narrow minded, and I'm tempted to go >> and give starbasee orion a zero star rating because of that. >>> >>> I have said if he wants to discuss alternatives I'd be happy and have >>> come >> as close to politeness allows to calling him a closed minded arrogant so >> and so, (I did use the word intractable). >>> >>> So, unfortunately it seems no access fixes here, which is pretty bad and >> not what I was hoping for (I am usualy at least a little more successful >> at >> this), though now that Trees brothers (the chaps who make startraders >> rpg), >> have moved into game developement we might see an accessible 4X game for >> the >> Iphone in the future. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Dark. >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the &g
Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion
Doh, just found that out. Well I'm certainly not going to give the guy money after that response, and if anyone has bought the game, certainly do give it a Zero and state why, then delete the thing and hope someone else does something similar and is a bit less unpleasant. All the best, Drk. - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Yeah I think I might actually go and do that. also say why you're giving it a 0 star? Note though you can only do that if you have the game. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 04 March 2014 22:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Well I've had another E-mail and he seems pretty set, which is quite irritating, indeed I've rarely had as negative a response, usually when developers respond at all your halfway there. I'd recommend people go and give Starbase Orion zero star ratings now, sinse this is frankly irritating for a game with such a lot of implicit access to begin with. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Well I was meant to be beta testing accessibility stuff for him ages ago but it really didn't get anywhere at all. so am not surprised to read this at all. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: 04 March 2014 19:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Hi Dark, This mirrors my experience when I suggested the same things to him. I understand his reasons, bt they are still frustrating. 95% accessible is hard to swallow. Best, Zack. On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:16 AM, dark wrote: Well I contacted the developer of starbase orion. he basically said that converting the open gl galaxy map would involve too much work and some buggy additions to the program. When i raised the issue of an alternate display of the same information ala the the startraders nav menue, he told me he'd already looked into that and decided against it. Frankly I doubt his abilities at looking at alternate solutions sinse genrally speaking most sighted developers are not good at finding alternative ways of desplaying graphical map info, which is one reason why it's often a good idea to discuss these things. The STarbase orion dev just seems narrow minded, and I'm tempted to go and give starbasee orion a zero star rating because of that. I have said if he wants to discuss alternatives I'd be happy and have come as close to politeness allows to calling him a closed minded arrogant so and so, (I did use the word intractable). So, unfortunately it seems no access fixes here, which is pretty bad and not what I was hoping for (I am usualy at least a little more successful at this), though now that Trees brothers (the chaps who make startraders rpg), have moved into game developement we might see an accessible 4X game for the Iphone in the future. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-
Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion
Yeah I think I might actually go and do that. also say why you're giving it a 0 star? Note though you can only do that if you have the game. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 04 March 2014 22:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Well I've had another E-mail and he seems pretty set, which is quite irritating, indeed I've rarely had as negative a response, usually when developers respond at all your halfway there. I'd recommend people go and give Starbase Orion zero star ratings now, sinse this is frankly irritating for a game with such a lot of implicit access to begin with. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion > Well I was meant to be beta testing accessibility stuff for him ages ago > but > it really didn't get anywhere at all. so am not surprised to read this at > all. > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Zachary > Kline > Sent: 04 March 2014 19:21 > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion > > Hi Dark, > > This mirrors my experience when I suggested the same things to him. I > understand his reasons, bt they are still frustrating. 95% accessible is > hard to swallow. > Best, > Zack. > On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:16 AM, dark wrote: > >> Well I contacted the developer of starbase orion. >> >> he basically said that converting the open gl galaxy map would involve >> too > much work and some buggy additions to the program. When i raised the issue > of an alternate display of the same information ala the the > startraders > nav menue, he told me he'd already looked into that and decided against > it. Frankly I doubt his abilities at looking at alternate solutions sinse > genrally speaking most sighted developers are not good at finding > alternative ways of desplaying graphical map info, which is one reason > why > it's often a good idea to discuss these things. >> >> The STarbase orion dev just seems narrow minded, and I'm tempted to go > and give starbasee orion a zero star rating because of that. >> >> I have said if he wants to discuss alternatives I'd be happy and have >> come > as close to politeness allows to calling him a closed minded arrogant so > and so, (I did use the word intractable). >> >> So, unfortunately it seems no access fixes here, which is pretty bad and > not what I was hoping for (I am usualy at least a little more successful > at > this), though now that Trees brothers (the chaps who make startraders > rpg), > have moved into game developement we might see an accessible 4X game for > the > Iphone in the future. >> >> All the best, >> >> Dark. >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mai
Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion
Well I've had another E-mail and he seems pretty set, which is quite irritating, indeed I've rarely had as negative a response, usually when developers respond at all your halfway there. I'd recommend people go and give Starbase Orion zero star ratings now, sinse this is frankly irritating for a game with such a lot of implicit access to begin with. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Well I was meant to be beta testing accessibility stuff for him ages ago but it really didn't get anywhere at all. so am not surprised to read this at all. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: 04 March 2014 19:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Hi Dark, This mirrors my experience when I suggested the same things to him. I understand his reasons, bt they are still frustrating. 95% accessible is hard to swallow. Best, Zack. On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:16 AM, dark wrote: Well I contacted the developer of starbase orion. he basically said that converting the open gl galaxy map would involve too much work and some buggy additions to the program. When i raised the issue of an alternate display of the same information ala the the startraders nav menue, he told me he'd already looked into that and decided against it. Frankly I doubt his abilities at looking at alternate solutions sinse genrally speaking most sighted developers are not good at finding alternative ways of desplaying graphical map info, which is one reason why it's often a good idea to discuss these things. The STarbase orion dev just seems narrow minded, and I'm tempted to go and give starbasee orion a zero star rating because of that. I have said if he wants to discuss alternatives I'd be happy and have come as close to politeness allows to calling him a closed minded arrogant so and so, (I did use the word intractable). So, unfortunately it seems no access fixes here, which is pretty bad and not what I was hoping for (I am usualy at least a little more successful at this), though now that Trees brothers (the chaps who make startraders rpg), have moved into game developement we might see an accessible 4X game for the Iphone in the future. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion
Well I was meant to be beta testing accessibility stuff for him ages ago but it really didn't get anywhere at all. so am not surprised to read this at all. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: 04 March 2014 19:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion Hi Dark, This mirrors my experience when I suggested the same things to him. I understand his reasons, bt they are still frustrating. 95% accessible is hard to swallow. Best, Zack. On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:16 AM, dark wrote: > Well I contacted the developer of starbase orion. > > he basically said that converting the open gl galaxy map would involve too much work and some buggy additions to the program. When i raised the issue of an alternate display of the same information ala the the startraders nav menue, he told me he'd already looked into that and decided against it. Frankly I doubt his abilities at looking at alternate solutions sinse genrally speaking most sighted developers are not good at finding alternative ways of desplaying graphical map info, which is one reason why it's often a good idea to discuss these things. > > The STarbase orion dev just seems narrow minded, and I'm tempted to go and give starbasee orion a zero star rating because of that. > > I have said if he wants to discuss alternatives I'd be happy and have come as close to politeness allows to calling him a closed minded arrogant so and so, (I did use the word intractable). > > So, unfortunately it seems no access fixes here, which is pretty bad and not what I was hoping for (I am usualy at least a little more successful at this), though now that Trees brothers (the chaps who make startraders rpg), have moved into game developement we might see an accessible 4X game for the Iphone in the future. > > All the best, > > Dark. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion
Hi Dark, This mirrors my experience when I suggested the same things to him. I understand his reasons, bt they are still frustrating. 95% accessible is hard to swallow. Best, Zack. On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:16 AM, dark wrote: > Well I contacted the developer of starbase orion. > > he basically said that converting the open gl galaxy map would involve too > much work and some buggy additions to the program. When i raised the issue of > an alternate display of the same information ala the the startraders nav > menue, he told me he'd already looked into that and decided against it. > Frankly I doubt his abilities at looking at alternate solutions sinse > genrally speaking most sighted developers are not good at finding > alternative ways of desplaying graphical map info, which is one reason why > it's often a good idea to discuss these things. > > The STarbase orion dev just seems narrow minded, and I'm tempted to go and > give starbasee orion a zero star rating because of that. > > I have said if he wants to discuss alternatives I'd be happy and have come as > close to politeness allows to calling him a closed minded arrogant so and > so, (I did use the word intractable). > > So, unfortunately it seems no access fixes here, which is pretty bad and not > what I was hoping for (I am usualy at least a little more successful at > this), though now that Trees brothers (the chaps who make startraders rpg), > have moved into game developement we might see an accessible 4X game for the > Iphone in the future. > > All the best, > > Dark. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Disappointing news about starbase orion
Well I contacted the developer of starbase orion. he basically said that converting the open gl galaxy map would involve too much work and some buggy additions to the program. When i raised the issue of an alternate display of the same information ala the the startraders nav menue, he told me he'd already looked into that and decided against it. Frankly I doubt his abilities at looking at alternate solutions sinse genrally speaking most sighted developers are not good at finding alternative ways of desplaying graphical map info, which is one reason why it's often a good idea to discuss these things. The STarbase orion dev just seems narrow minded, and I'm tempted to go and give starbasee orion a zero star rating because of that. I have said if he wants to discuss alternatives I'd be happy and have come as close to politeness allows to calling him a closed minded arrogant so and so, (I did use the word intractable). So, unfortunately it seems no access fixes here, which is pretty bad and not what I was hoping for (I am usualy at least a little more successful at this), though now that Trees brothers (the chaps who make startraders rpg), have moved into game developement we might see an accessible 4X game for the Iphone in the future. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
