Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
Hi, Yes, but I would like everyone to begin stearing this back to a game topic. General hardware issues such as what cd drive to buy etc is skatting dangerious close to the off topic line. So let's try and stearing things back to on topic. Smile. Constantine wrote: True enough, I guess. I love lg drives, those seem to be the most reliable. I have one from 2004 and have used it quite a lot, and its the fastest cd burning drive I own. Sony is good too. I have a very very no name brand drive (that has super link technology, any idea what that is)? On my oldest computer that burns cds at 40 x, with horrible results. Got another 2 lg burners, different models but they both burn dvds and cds, and I use one of them almost daily. The one in this laptops an hp, I guess, and its working fine. actually no, looking in hardware, its lg too! I don't use it that much, though. contact details: --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
well samsung and liton drives will almost work quite well no real issue. At 02:24 p.m. 24/03/2009, you wrote: >True enough, I guess. I love lg drives, those seem to be the most reliable. I >have one from 2004 and have used it quite a lot, and its the fastest cd >burning drive I own. Sony is good too. I have a very very no name brand drive >(that has super link technology, any idea what that is)? On my oldest computer >that burns cds at 40 x, with horrible results. Got another 2 lg burners, >different models but they both burn dvds and cds, and I use one of them almost >daily. The one in this laptops an hp, I guess, and its working fine. actually >no, looking in hardware, its lg too! I don't use it that much, though. > > > >contact details: > >email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca > >and others >msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com >skype: the_conman283 > >system details: >Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu >100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:02 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was >Bloodmoney Online fighting > > >>Hi, >>Oh, then you are lucky. I've had several cd/dvd drives go bad. In fact the >>one in my laptop bit the dust and i have to make do with an external drive >>until I can send it into H.P. for repairs. Like any electronic device it >>depends on how much you use it. If you burn a lot of disks, do weekly back >>ups, etc then your drive is more likely to fail than someone who barely uses >>it. >> >>Constantine wrote: >>>True enough. Maybe sony learned from there mistakes with the ps1 and ps2. >>>I'm sure some sega cd units haven't been serviced at all, it'd be neat to >>>see statistics on older cd based consoles vs. newer ones. >>>Oh, another thing I'm wondering, I wonder what the wii is like with discs? >>>My gamecube started acting wierd, it would randomly not read a disc so I had >>>to reset it. With soul Kalliber, I rented it, and it would freeze randomly. >>>I know for a fact that on sega cds with the front loading design (tray), the >>>tray motor would die. I have a Panasonic discman here from 1992 and it still >>>works flawlessly. I've also noticed how companies now started skimping on >>>ports, buttons and switches. >>>Quite wierd though is the fact that I've had absolutely no problem with >>>computer cd drives. New or old. They all work great. >>> >>>contact details: >>> >>>email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
True enough, I guess. I love lg drives, those seem to be the most reliable. I have one from 2004 and have used it quite a lot, and its the fastest cd burning drive I own. Sony is good too. I have a very very no name brand drive (that has super link technology, any idea what that is)? On my oldest computer that burns cds at 40 x, with horrible results. Got another 2 lg burners, different models but they both burn dvds and cds, and I use one of them almost daily. The one in this laptops an hp, I guess, and its working fine. actually no, looking in hardware, its lg too! I don't use it that much, though. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting Hi, Oh, then you are lucky. I've had several cd/dvd drives go bad. In fact the one in my laptop bit the dust and i have to make do with an external drive until I can send it into H.P. for repairs. Like any electronic device it depends on how much you use it. If you burn a lot of disks, do weekly back ups, etc then your drive is more likely to fail than someone who barely uses it. Constantine wrote: True enough. Maybe sony learned from there mistakes with the ps1 and ps2. I'm sure some sega cd units haven't been serviced at all, it'd be neat to see statistics on older cd based consoles vs. newer ones. Oh, another thing I'm wondering, I wonder what the wii is like with discs? My gamecube started acting wierd, it would randomly not read a disc so I had to reset it. With soul Kalliber, I rented it, and it would freeze randomly. I know for a fact that on sega cds with the front loading design (tray), the tray motor would die. I have a Panasonic discman here from 1992 and it still works flawlessly. I've also noticed how companies now started skimping on ports, buttons and switches. Quite wierd though is the fact that I've had absolutely no problem with computer cd drives. New or old. They all work great. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
I barely use the drive actually if I needed to use it more I'd use an external. ANd keep the drive for hardware installs. my drive is so bad now on my a10 that its not bootable I can't recover the unit. I can't boot with an external at all so unless I want to get it replaced which will cost mega bucks I won't be able to do anything at all. At 06:02 p.m. 23/03/2009, you wrote: >Hi, >Oh, then you are lucky. I've had several cd/dvd drives go bad. In fact the one >in my laptop bit the dust and i have to make do with an external drive until I >can send it into H.P. for repairs. Like any electronic device it depends on >how much you use it. If you burn a lot of disks, do weekly back ups, etc then >your drive is more likely to fail than someone who barely uses it. > >Constantine wrote: >>True enough. Maybe sony learned from there mistakes with the ps1 and ps2. I'm >>sure some sega cd units haven't been serviced at all, it'd be neat to see >>statistics on older cd based consoles vs. newer ones. >>Oh, another thing I'm wondering, I wonder what the wii is like with discs? My >>gamecube started acting wierd, it would randomly not read a disc so I had to >>reset it. With soul Kalliber, I rented it, and it would freeze randomly. >>I know for a fact that on sega cds with the front loading design (tray), the >>tray motor would die. I have a Panasonic discman here from 1992 and it still >>works flawlessly. I've also noticed how companies now started skimping on >>ports, buttons and switches. >>Quite wierd though is the fact that I've had absolutely no problem with >>computer cd drives. New or old. They all work great. >>contact details: >>email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
Hi, Oh, then you are lucky. I've had several cd/dvd drives go bad. In fact the one in my laptop bit the dust and i have to make do with an external drive until I can send it into H.P. for repairs. Like any electronic device it depends on how much you use it. If you burn a lot of disks, do weekly back ups, etc then your drive is more likely to fail than someone who barely uses it. Constantine wrote: True enough. Maybe sony learned from there mistakes with the ps1 and ps2. I'm sure some sega cd units haven't been serviced at all, it'd be neat to see statistics on older cd based consoles vs. newer ones. Oh, another thing I'm wondering, I wonder what the wii is like with discs? My gamecube started acting wierd, it would randomly not read a disc so I had to reset it. With soul Kalliber, I rented it, and it would freeze randomly. I know for a fact that on sega cds with the front loading design (tray), the tray motor would die. I have a Panasonic discman here from 1992 and it still works flawlessly. I've also noticed how companies now started skimping on ports, buttons and switches. Quite wierd though is the fact that I've had absolutely no problem with computer cd drives. New or old. They all work great. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
True enough. Maybe sony learned from there mistakes with the ps1 and ps2. I'm sure some sega cd units haven't been serviced at all, it'd be neat to see statistics on older cd based consoles vs. newer ones. Oh, another thing I'm wondering, I wonder what the wii is like with discs? My gamecube started acting wierd, it would randomly not read a disc so I had to reset it. With soul Kalliber, I rented it, and it would freeze randomly. I know for a fact that on sega cds with the front loading design (tray), the tray motor would die. I have a Panasonic discman here from 1992 and it still works flawlessly. I've also noticed how companies now started skimping on ports, buttons and switches. Quite wierd though is the fact that I've had absolutely no problem with computer cd drives. New or old. They all work great. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting Hi, Well, bottom line, we all need to remember weather we are talking about a Play Station or XBox hardware can fail, have glitches, and both experience these sorts of issues. Sheesh my dvd recorder, which I have had for the last two years, just up and died for no apparent reason. Such is life with electronics these days. Yohandy wrote: ps3s are experiencing way less problems than xbox, for sure. Disc scratching? red ring of death? no thanks. There's a section on wikipedia entirely devoted to xbox 360 problems. don't get me wrong, I really love some of the xbox 360s features, but until they fix these issues, I won't be getting one. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
Hi, Well, bottom line, we all need to remember weather we are talking about a Play Station or XBox hardware can fail, have glitches, and both experience these sorts of issues. Sheesh my dvd recorder, which I have had for the last two years, just up and died for no apparent reason. Such is life with electronics these days. Yohandy wrote: ps3s are experiencing way less problems than xbox, for sure. Disc scratching? red ring of death? no thanks. There's a section on wikipedia entirely devoted to xbox 360 problems. don't get me wrong, I really love some of the xbox 360s features, but until they fix these issues, I won't be getting one. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
Yeah, I'll grant you that on all counts. But the same goes for just about any electronic, not just sony, hence the whole x box 3 rings of death thing going around years back. They both have their advantages and disadvantages I suppose. I wasn't saying I prefer one over the other, I have them both and don't mind either controller scheme. Just saying that the ps3 controllers can stand up to a fair amount. Maybe not as much as the tank of an x box controller, haha. Either way, they're both good systems. -- From: "Constantine" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:38 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting Well, that's you - actually, some people have no problems with the controllers. Others somehow get things rattling around inside. My friend has one like that - yet another friend says his r2 button sticks badly, and yet another has no problems. The first dualshock controllers were absolute tanks. They could handle anything. Now its just cheaply made, expensively priced (for what you get). Something like the lenns in the ps2. Some people have had luck with it, others have had no luck at all and got the dreaded Disc Read error, very very common for ps2.We'll see how the ps3 goes. From what I've been able to find, some ps3's have already experienced problems. Dating back all the way to the first ps1 released (made out of plastic that overheated very easily) to now, sony's build quality has decreased a lot. Even my stario might be needing to be repaired after only 4 years of light use. Electronics aren't being built like they used to. People buy cameras and monitors and look at numbers, not reliability, and don't do research. I have a set of surround sound speakers that would be worth 1000 dollars or more now, but back in 1995 when my brother had them they were only worth a few hundrid. They still work. Take the sega cd, for example. Very few have experienced lens failure. Its a fuse in there that can be replaced easily that usually ends up being the culprit. Even the dreamcasts is hard to kill. Mind you they'll go eventually, but not as quick as sony. I don't mean to be insulting sony here but its a fact. Look up disc read errors for ps2 or ps1 and you'll find most likely hundrids of discussions on the subject. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] PS3 Controllers was Blood money Online fighting Wow, you guys must be really hard on controllers. I've had my ps3 for going on a year now, both my brother and I play it, and we've never had any problems with the controllers. I did notice they were a bit smaller than the ps2 controllers but that's about it. -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:30 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] PS3 Controllers was Blood money Online fighting Hi, Yeah, have to agree with you on this. I played a little with a PS3 at the store and i also thought the PS3 controllers were cheaply made and flimsy. I much prefer the XBox controllers to the PS3 controllers, and even my PS2 controllers are better. Constantine wrote: In my experience, the PS3 aka dualshock controllers have gone into the dust. I played a ps3 a while ago with a dualshock controller. The thing is flimzier. It seems with every generation of consoles the controllers and things get flimzier. The xbox controller might be big, but its sturdy and doesn't feel like it could break. Same with the wii mote. The wii mote, in fact, is quite interesting since you can do funky things with it. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make chang
Re: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting
ps3s are experiencing way less problems than xbox, for sure. Disc scratching? red ring of death? no thanks. There's a section on wikipedia entirely devoted to xbox 360 problems. don't get me wrong, I really love some of the xbox 360s features, but until they fix these issues, I won't be getting one. - Original Message - From: "Constantine" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Lenses and controllers was Re: PS3 Controllers was Bloodmoney Online fighting Well, that's you - actually, some people have no problems with the controllers. Others somehow get things rattling around inside. My friend has one like that - yet another friend says his r2 button sticks badly, and yet another has no problems. The first dualshock controllers were absolute tanks. They could handle anything. Now its just cheaply made, expensively priced (for what you get). Something like the lenns in the ps2. Some people have had luck with it, others have had no luck at all and got the dreaded Disc Read error, very very common for ps2.We'll see how the ps3 goes. From what I've been able to find, some ps3's have already experienced problems. Dating back all the way to the first ps1 released (made out of plastic that overheated very easily) to now, sony's build quality has decreased a lot. Even my stario might be needing to be repaired after only 4 years of light use. Electronics aren't being built like they used to. People buy cameras and monitors and look at numbers, not reliability, and don't do research. I have a set of surround sound speakers that would be worth 1000 dollars or more now, but back in 1995 when my brother had them they were only worth a few hundrid. They still work. Take the sega cd, for example. Very few have experienced lens failure. Its a fuse in there that can be replaced easily that usually ends up being the culprit. Even the dreamcasts is hard to kill. Mind you they'll go eventually, but not as quick as sony. I don't mean to be insulting sony here but its a fact. Look up disc read errors for ps2 or ps1 and you'll find most likely hundrids of discussions on the subject. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] PS3 Controllers was Blood money Online fighting Wow, you guys must be really hard on controllers. I've had my ps3 for going on a year now, both my brother and I play it, and we've never had any problems with the controllers. I did notice they were a bit smaller than the ps2 controllers but that's about it. -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:30 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] PS3 Controllers was Blood money Online fighting Hi, Yeah, have to agree with you on this. I played a little with a PS3 at the store and i also thought the PS3 controllers were cheaply made and flimsy. I much prefer the XBox controllers to the PS3 controllers, and even my PS2 controllers are better. Constantine wrote: In my experience, the PS3 aka dualshock controllers have gone into the dust. I played a ps3 a while ago with a dualshock controller. The thing is flimzier. It seems with every generation of consoles the controllers and things get flimzier. The xbox controller might be big, but its sturdy and doesn't feel like it could break. Same with the wii mote. The wii mote, in fact, is quite interesting since you can do funky things with it. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any qu
