Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-27 Thread Shiny protector
I have to agree with Hayden. Spoon feeding? Wining? Lazyness? That's kind of 
rude. Not the mod, but you could have  written something like this.

If you haven't seen the link, here it is.
That's even better. Not wishing to start a flame war, but that was rude.
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory



Hi,
What you just said to me is beyond insulting. In the first place, I had 
not

yet seen the message that said they are doing screenreaders for phones. In
the second place, I most obviously looked at the link since I was able to
tell yo the page said android for the blind. So do not tell me I was 
lazy,
and do not get started with spoonfeeding. I am not trying to start a 
flame
war here, but do me a favor and read the whole message before you attack 
me.


Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:55 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

God, you that lazy not to look at the link? well if you would then
you would have seen this,
http://www.codefactory.es
There I spoon fed you the link!
No wonder why there is so much wining on here.
At 11:26 PM 4/25/2011, you wrote:

Hi,
No, it must be you who is out of the loop. I click on that link, and get
taken to android for the blind

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:08 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

They do have a site and always have.
http://www.codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=415#getithttp://www.codefact

o

ry.es/
Seems that some of you are way out of the loop!
At 11:23 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
There is absolutely nothing to suggest tis. Not only do they have no 
site

of
which to speak but there is no way of purchasing Code Factory games. So:

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Alfredo_The_Music_maker
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:58 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

Hello all,
Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, hay
do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them in
6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a year
or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running,
thus having control of their copyright status.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-27 Thread Shiny protector
And your denying that? Well that's weird. I did deny a few things before, 
but nothing like this. If it were me, I'd rather apologize.
- Original Message - 
From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory


I didn't insult you, but I did pull the link apart witch stated in both 
links codefactory.es

So wine some more! Done with this!
At 04:03 PM 4/26/2011, you wrote:

Hi,
What you just said to me is beyond insulting. In the first place, I had 
not

yet seen the message that said they are doing screenreaders for phones. In
the second place, I most obviously looked at the link since I was able to
tell yo the page said android for the blind. So do not tell me I was 
lazy,
and do not get started with spoonfeeding. I am not trying to start a 
flame
war here, but do me a favor and read the whole message before you attack 
me.


Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:55 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

God, you that lazy not to look at the link? well if you would then
you would have seen this,
http://www.codefactory.es
There I spoon fed you the link!
No wonder why there is so much wining on here.
At 11:26 PM 4/25/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
No, it must be you who is out of the loop. I click on that link, and get
taken to android for the blind

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:08 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

They do have a site and always have.
http://www.codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=415#getithttp://www.codefact
o
ry.es/
Seems that some of you are way out of the loop!
At 11:23 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:
 Hi,
 There is absolutely nothing to suggest tis. Not only do they have no 
 site

of
 which to speak but there is no way of purchasing Code Factory games. 
 So:

 
 Best Regards,
 Hayden
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
 On

 Behalf Of Alfredo_The_Music_maker
 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:58 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory
 
 Hello all,
 Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, 
 hay
 do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them 
 in
 6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a 
 year

 or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running,
 thus having control of their copyright status.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-26 Thread Trouble
God, you that lazy not to look at the link? well if you would then 
you would have seen this,

http://www.codefactory.es
There I spoon fed you the link!
No wonder why there is so much wining on here.
At 11:26 PM 4/25/2011, you wrote:

Hi,
No, it must be you who is out of the loop. I click on that link, and get
taken to android for the blind

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:08 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

They do have a site and always have.
http://www.codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=415#getithttp://www.codefacto
ry.es/
Seems that some of you are way out of the loop!
At 11:23 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
There is absolutely nothing to suggest tis. Not only do they have no site
of
which to speak but there is no way of purchasing Code Factory games. So:

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Alfredo_The_Music_maker
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:58 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

Hello all,
Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, hay
do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them in
6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a year
or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running,
thus having control of their copyright status.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-26 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
What you just said to me is beyond insulting. In the first place, I had not
yet seen the message that said they are doing screenreaders for phones. In
the second place, I most obviously looked at the link since I was able to
tell yo the page said android for the blind. So do not tell me I was lazy,
and do not get started with spoonfeeding. I am not trying to start a flame
war here, but do me a favor and read the whole message before you attack me.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:55 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

God, you that lazy not to look at the link? well if you would then 
you would have seen this,
http://www.codefactory.es
There I spoon fed you the link!
No wonder why there is so much wining on here.
At 11:26 PM 4/25/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
No, it must be you who is out of the loop. I click on that link, and get
taken to android for the blind

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:08 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

They do have a site and always have.
http://www.codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=415#getithttp://www.codefact
o
ry.es/
Seems that some of you are way out of the loop!
At 11:23 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:
 Hi,
 There is absolutely nothing to suggest tis. Not only do they have no site
of
 which to speak but there is no way of purchasing Code Factory games. So:
 
 Best Regards,
 Hayden
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Alfredo_The_Music_maker
 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:58 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory
 
 Hello all,
 Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, hay
 do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them in
 6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a year
 or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running,
 thus having control of their copyright status.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-26 Thread Trouble
I didn't insult you, but I did pull the link apart witch stated in 
both links codefactory.es

So wine some more! Done with this!
At 04:03 PM 4/26/2011, you wrote:

Hi,
What you just said to me is beyond insulting. In the first place, I had not
yet seen the message that said they are doing screenreaders for phones. In
the second place, I most obviously looked at the link since I was able to
tell yo the page said android for the blind. So do not tell me I was lazy,
and do not get started with spoonfeeding. I am not trying to start a flame
war here, but do me a favor and read the whole message before you attack me.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:55 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

God, you that lazy not to look at the link? well if you would then
you would have seen this,
http://www.codefactory.es
There I spoon fed you the link!
No wonder why there is so much wining on here.
At 11:26 PM 4/25/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
No, it must be you who is out of the loop. I click on that link, and get
taken to android for the blind

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:08 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

They do have a site and always have.
http://www.codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=415#getithttp://www.codefact
o
ry.es/
Seems that some of you are way out of the loop!
At 11:23 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:
 Hi,
 There is absolutely nothing to suggest tis. Not only do they have no site
of
 which to speak but there is no way of purchasing Code Factory games. So:
 
 Best Regards,
 Hayden
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Alfredo_The_Music_maker
 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:58 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory
 
 Hello all,
 Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, hay
 do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them in
 6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a year
 or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running,
 thus having control of their copyright status.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-26 Thread Alfredo_The_Music_maker
Actually, by reading this message, I have taken a side that you have 
said words that are insulting in one way in another. There are better 
ways to ask such a question.
Could you look at the link? Would you mind looking at the link I just 
sent you? I just gave you the link for you to look it. I believe these 
will help out in getting the things you want.


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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-25 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
No, it must be you who is out of the loop. I click on that link, and get
taken to android for the blind

Best Regards,
Hayden


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They do have a site and always have.
http://www.codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=415#getithttp://www.codefacto
ry.es/
Seems that some of you are way out of the loop!
At 11:23 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
There is absolutely nothing to suggest tis. Not only do they have no site
of
which to speak but there is no way of purchasing Code Factory games. So:

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Hello all,
Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, hay
do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them in
6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a year
or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running,
thus having control of their copyright status.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-21 Thread Trouble
code factory dropped there games when they went making screen readers 
for cell phones.
And just because a company is not around don't mean the copy right is 
not good. They can last for years.


At 09:58 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:

Hello all,
Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, 
hay do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from 
them in 6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, 
maybe a year or 2, so this means that their company is still up and 
may be running, thus having control of their copyright status.


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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-21 Thread Trouble

They do have a site and always have.
http://www.codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=415#getithttp://www.codefactory.es/
Seems that some of you are way out of the loop!
At 11:23 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:

Hi,
There is absolutely nothing to suggest tis. Not only do they have no site of
which to speak but there is no way of purchasing Code Factory games. So:

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Hello all,
Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, hay
do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them in
6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a year
or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running,
thus having control of their copyright status.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-21 Thread Alfredo_The_Music_maker
The question is, do they always update their site, like give us a 
Christmas greening and things like that?


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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-20 Thread Trouble

How about sending them a email and find out?

At 05:32 PM 4/20/2011, you wrote:

its the same situation with bavisoft.
no one knows.
You sertainly can not buy their stuff, and they want nothing to do 
with gaming anymore.
Though no one has actually got any real answer on licencing, or if 
they care about the games existing at all.
I guess technically its piracy but its not like anyone has not tried 
to see what is up with it.

At 03:25 a.m. 21/04/2011, you wrote:

Shaun,

That may be, but did Code Factory explicitly give permission to
redistribute their programs or not. Did they state they are making
these games public domain, I.E. public property, because if not it is
technically piracy according to the laws of the United States and
other international copyright laws. That's the thing you people often
overlook here.

There is some misguided idea that if developer x stops producing a
game, stops selling it, they assume it must be freeware and begin
sharing cracks all over the net. Unless the company have given
explicit notice in writing somewhere that this is sanctioned by them
it is software piracy. You might or might not think this is fair, but
it is the law.

For example, let's assume that someone decides to upload a copy of
Windows 98 to sendspace complete with keys and everything. Microsoft
doesn't support it any more. They don't sell it any more. So that
makes it legal to share it?

Of course not! It is still owned and controled by Microsoft. Its
copyright status has not changed, and just because Microsoft is no
longer making it publically available doesn't mean it is now freeware.
The same exact issue applies to these games. Unless the copyrights and
end user license has changed your breaking the law by sharing the
games.

Cheers!

On 4/20/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 well look at the forum.
 Code factory of last we know is not interested in gaming anymore.
 In fact last contact has had them say they have dropped all titles.
 There is a topic on cracking their games, on the audiogames general forum.
 Its a shame they dumped their entire gaming side.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-20 Thread Alfredo_The_Music_maker

Hello all,
Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, hay 
do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them in 
6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a year 
or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running, 
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Inquiry was Code Factory

2011-04-20 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
There is absolutely nothing to suggest tis. Not only do they have no site of
which to speak but there is no way of purchasing Code Factory games. So:

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Hello all,
Let me say this. If people are distributing software from Bancroft, hay 
do they not do anything about it? Because we have not heard from them in 
6 years. With Code Factory it is a lot less amount of time, maybe a year 
or 2, so this means that their company is still up and may be running, 
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