Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks
when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at all, but thats just me -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered by restrictive product licensing. In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys for every game I want to play. Darren Harris wrote: Hi, Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram replaced on her pc
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks
Hi Gang, For dozens of messages now, I've been skipping the Q9 thread. But at this point I've become very curious as to what this game is like and whether I should plunk down anything for it. Can someone direct me to a website or otherwise let me in on the great secret? I don't mean to clutter up the list with this, so just email me directly, if you aren't just totally annoyed by this post. --Bill - Original Message - From: Mauricio Almeida mauricio...@uol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at all, but thats just me -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being hampered
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks
Hi Bill, It's the new game. You can get it from www.blastbay.comm. HTH. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Hi Gang, For dozens of messages now, I've been skipping the Q9 thread. But at this point I've become very curious as to what this game is like and whether I should plunk down anything for it. Can someone direct me to a website or otherwise let me in on the great secret? I don't mean to clutter up the list with this, so just email me directly, if you aren't just totally annoyed by this post. --Bill - Original Message - From: Mauricio Almeida mauricio...@uol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at all, but thats just me -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other draconian security system they came up
Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks
www.blastbay.com Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Hi Gang, For dozens of messages now, I've been skipping the Q9 thread. But at this point I've become very curious as to what this game is like and whether I should plunk down anything for it. Can someone direct me to a website or otherwise let me in on the great secret? I don't mean to clutter up the list with this, so just email me directly, if you aren't just totally annoyed by this post. --Bill - Original Message - From: Mauricio Almeida mauricio...@uol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at all, but thats just me -Mensagem original- De: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does. It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games, for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if any at all. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi thomas, Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7. Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes, personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150 as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade. That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme, I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere don't they evil laugh. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks Hi Daren, Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation. Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization disks, or any other
