Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
Hi Thomas, Thank you very much for the offer to write an installer for me, however I am not ready to change every one of my files on my site just for Vista. I would very much appreciate it if you could tell me how you got my games into the kitchensinc folder so that I could pass that information on to those who might run Vista and have the same problem BTW I think that is a crock that Vista will not let a person extract a zip file to the folder of their choosing. Security is one thing, but I want to be able to tell my computer to do what I want it to do. It seems that is becoming less and less possible. Thanks again. BFN Jim Vista; A distant view, as through a passage or opening. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
Hi Jim, As for your games I have not gotten them in to the Kitchen Inc folder yet, and will be making an installer for myself which puts them there. However, as for reading and writing to folders under Vista keep in mind Vista is only beginning to emulate other operating systems like Linux which are a more secure operating environment which is a huge shock for older Windows only users who are not use to this level of security. For example, in Ubuntu Linux before you can install anything to the server you must run the su program, super user, and type in your admin password before Linux will allow you to install it to the os. You can't change global settings, or accerss system fils without giving a super user password. Guess what? Windows Vista has become the same way. It is all about admin rights and who has them and who doesn't. If you try to delete a system file it will prompt you for a username and password and if it does not have admin rights it refuses to take that action. If the os feels the action will damage the os it refuses to carry out the action. It is really for the better as far as securing from viruses, worms, etc... As for why your files are not unpacking I have no idea, but my guess is and was that somehow the packer is not teling the os to prompt me me for security admin rights. It simply tries to do the write operation and Vista comes back with no permission to access the folder. I'm going to attempt to extract them to my local home directory, another Linuxism, and run them from their until I create a Vista compatible installer. One question when I make the installer for myself do I have permission to uploade the modified versions to my web site so those who do make the switch can get your games? Thanks. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, Thank you very much for the offer to write an installer for me, however I am not ready to change every one of my files on my site just for Vista. I would very much appreciate it if you could tell me how you got my games into the kitchensinc folder so that I could pass that information on to those who might run Vista and have the same problem BTW I think that is a crock that Vista will not let a person extract a zip file to the folder of their choosing. Security is one thing, but I want to be able to tell my computer to do what I want it to do. It seems that is becoming less and less possible. Thanks again. BFN Jim Vista; A distant view, as through a passage or opening. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
the extracters for the games use a version of winzip self extracter. If that extracter was created in versions of winzip sfx and winzip prire to winzip11 then I don't think that will work. You should still be able to use the winzip to unzip the files and any zip files, you just need to get winzip11. At 07:01 a.m. 2/03/2007, you wrote: Hi Jim, As for your games I have not gotten them in to the Kitchen Inc folder yet, and will be making an installer for myself which puts them there. However, as for reading and writing to folders under Vista keep in mind Vista is only beginning to emulate other operating systems like Linux which are a more secure operating environment which is a huge shock for older Windows only users who are not use to this level of security. For example, in Ubuntu Linux before you can install anything to the server you must run the su program, super user, and type in your admin password before Linux will allow you to install it to the os. You can't change global settings, or accerss system fils without giving a super user password. Guess what? Windows Vista has become the same way. It is all about admin rights and who has them and who doesn't. If you try to delete a system file it will prompt you for a username and password and if it does not have admin rights it refuses to take that action. If the os feels the action will damage the os it refuses to carry out the action. It is really for the better as far as securing from viruses, worms, etc... As for why your files are not unpacking I have no idea, but my guess is and was that somehow the packer is not teling the os to prompt me me for security admin rights. It simply tries to do the write operation and Vista comes back with no permission to access the folder. I'm going to attempt to extract them to my local home directory, another Linuxism, and run them from their until I create a Vista compatible installer. One question when I make the installer for myself do I have permission to uploade the modified versions to my web site so those who do make the switch can get your games? Thanks. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, Thank you very much for the offer to write an installer for me, however I am not ready to change every one of my files on my site just for Vista. I would very much appreciate it if you could tell me how you got my games into the kitchensinc folder so that I could pass that information on to those who might run Vista and have the same problem BTW I think that is a crock that Vista will not let a person extract a zip file to the folder of their choosing. Security is one thing, but I want to be able to tell my computer to do what I want it to do. It seems that is becoming less and less possible. Thanks again. BFN Jim Vista; A distant view, as through a passage or opening. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
Hee...thanks! good info... Could you check if Drive (http://www.audiogames.net/drive/) works? Because if it doesn't, we might have troubles with Audio Game Maker too...? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart Hello gamers and fellow developers, Earlier today I spent a large part of this morning and afternoon testing and trouble shooting applications and games as I port everything from Windows XP to Windows Vista. Many of these applications were accessible games. Many passed with no issues, some passed with issues, and others did not pass at all. The results of my findings can be found in the chart below. BSC Games Hunter Failed Had errors Pipe 2.0 Failed Had errors Unable to run Troopenum 2.0 Failed Had errors Unable to run Draconis Entertainment Aliens in the Outback 2.02 Passed No issues Dinaman 2.2.5 Passed No issues Monkey Business Untested Unknown Pinball Classic Passed No issues Pinball Extreme Passed No issues Dan Z Games \ None tested GMA Games GMA Tank Commander 1.2 Passed No issues Lonewolf 3.5.5 partial Had errors Unable to connect with Window Eyes 6.1 when using screen reader support, but could be used with Sapi 5 tts engines. Shades of Doom 1.2 Passed No issues Trek 2000 Untested Unknown Kitchens Inc Baseball Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Battleship Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Golf Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Life Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Monopoly Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install NFL Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Spanker Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install L-Works Judgement Day 1.0 Passed No issues Super Liam 1.0 Passed No issues PCS Games Packman Talks 1.0 Passed No issues Sarah and the Castle of Whichcraft and Wizardry 2005 beta Passed No issues Super Dog Bone Hunt 1.0 Passed No Issues USA Games Final Conflict 1.0 Failed Had errors Unsolved Montezuma's Revenge Alpha 4.4 Failed Had errors unsolved USA Raceway 0.1 Failed Had errors Unsolved If you are a game developer and would like me to test your product with Vista Home Preimum send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will try and find some time to test and report any passes, failiors, and bug reports related with the failior if necessary. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
Hi Thomas, You know the games of mine that you listed Baseball, Battleship, Golf, Life, Monopoly, NFL and Spanker are all just self extracting WinZip files. So when they reported Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install I wonder if you first ran the setup.exe file in the winkit.zip file to create the kitchensinc folder where they would have been trying to be unzipped to. Thanks BFN Jim Do files get embarassed being unZIPped ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
Hi, Speaking of audio game maker, how is the development coming along? Will it be out in a few months? Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
hi, please could you test out my bluff game? i don't think it'll work with sapi4 but just to try out. if not then i'll redevelop it in sapi5. thanks. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:09 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart Hello gamers and fellow developers, Earlier today I spent a large part of this morning and afternoon testing and trouble shooting applications and games as I port everything from Windows XP to Windows Vista. Many of these applications were accessible games. Many passed with no issues, some passed with issues, and others did not pass at all. The results of my findings can be found in the chart below. BSC Games Hunter Failed Had errors Pipe 2.0 Failed Had errors Unable to run Troopenum 2.0 Failed Had errors Unable to run Draconis Entertainment Aliens in the Outback 2.02 Passed No issues Dinaman 2.2.5 Passed No issues Monkey Business Untested Unknown Pinball Classic Passed No issues Pinball Extreme Passed No issues Dan Z Games \ None tested GMA Games GMA Tank Commander 1.2 Passed No issues Lonewolf 3.5.5 partial Had errors Unable to connect with Window Eyes 6.1 when using screen reader support, but could be used with Sapi 5 tts engines. Shades of Doom 1.2 Passed No issues Trek 2000 Untested Unknown Kitchens Inc Baseball Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Battleship Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Golf Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Life Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Monopoly Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install NFL Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Spanker Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install L-Works Judgement Day 1.0 Passed No issues Super Liam 1.0 Passed No issues PCS Games Packman Talks 1.0 Passed No issues Sarah and the Castle of Whichcraft and Wizardry 2005 beta Passed No issues Super Dog Bone Hunt 1.0 Passed No Issues USA Games Final Conflict 1.0 Failed Had errors Unsolved Montezuma's Revenge Alpha 4.4 Failed Had errors unsolved USA Raceway 0.1 Failed Had errors Unsolved If you are a game developer and would like me to test your product with Vista Home Preimum send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will try and find some time to test and report any passes, failiors, and bug reports related with the failior if necessary. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
Hi Jim, Yeah, I used winkit, and that wasn't the problem I encountered here. I've been a user of your games for a number of years, and so I know how to install your games. Smile The problem here I believe is do to Vista's new security. Windows Vista is all about read, write, and execute management. When it comes to system folders like program files, Windows, Users, etc one can not just simply self-extract a bunch a files in to a directory. This is to increase safety from viruses, but it also prevents small time devs like yourself from just dumping a program in the program files directory and forgetting about it. I can offer two solutions for this issue. One you can have self-extractor unpack the files locally to the users home directory, or two I can write you a setup installer for the games which is operating system independant from 98 to Vista. In the long run you might be best served by the second option eventually. Cheers. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, You know the games of mine that you listed Baseball, Battleship, Golf, Life, Monopoly, NFL and Spanker are all just self extracting WinZip files. So when they reported Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install I wonder if you first ran the setup.exe file in the winkit.zip file to create the kitchensinc folder where they would have been trying to be unzipped to. Thanks BFN Jim Do files get embarassed being unZIPped ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
Hi Damien, What is the web page to get your game and I will give it a try. Although, if you are using Sapi 4 it is likely to be trouble since only Sapi 5 comes with Vista. damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive wrote: hi, please could you test out my bluff game? i don't think it'll work with sapi4 but just to try out. if not then i'll redevelop it in sapi5. thanks. regards, damien ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
the sapi4 engine is included with the game's installer. the webpage is: http://x-sight.brandoncole.net/games thanks. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart Hi Damien, What is the web page to get your game and I will give it a try. Although, if you are using Sapi 4 it is likely to be trouble since only Sapi 5 comes with Vista. damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive wrote: hi, please could you test out my bluff game? i don't think it'll work with sapi4 but just to try out. if not then i'll redevelop it in sapi5. thanks. regards, damien ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
Hello gamers and fellow developers, Earlier today I spent a large part of this morning and afternoon testing and trouble shooting applications and games as I port everything from Windows XP to Windows Vista. Many of these applications were accessible games. Many passed with no issues, some passed with issues, and others did not pass at all. The results of my findings can be found in the chart below. BSC Games Hunter Failed Had errors Pipe 2.0 Failed Had errors Unable to run Troopenum 2.0 Failed Had errors Unable to run Draconis Entertainment Aliens in the Outback 2.02 Passed No issues Dinaman 2.2.5 Passed No issues Monkey Business Untested Unknown Pinball Classic Passed No issues Pinball Extreme Passed No issues Dan Z Games \ None tested GMA Games GMA Tank Commander 1.2 Passed No issues Lonewolf 3.5.5 partial Had errors Unable to connect with Window Eyes 6.1 when using screen reader support, but could be used with Sapi 5 tts engines. Shades of Doom 1.2 Passed No issues Trek 2000 Untested Unknown Kitchens Inc Baseball Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Battleship Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Golf Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Life Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Monopoly Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install NFL Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Spanker Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install L-Works Judgement Day 1.0 Passed No issues Super Liam 1.0 Passed No issues PCS Games Packman Talks 1.0 Passed No issues Sarah and the Castle of Whichcraft and Wizardry 2005 beta Passed No issues Super Dog Bone Hunt 1.0 Passed No Issues USA Games Final Conflict 1.0 Failed Had errors Unsolved Montezuma's Revenge Alpha 4.4 Failed Had errors unsolved USA Raceway 0.1 Failed Had errors Unsolved If you are a game developer and would like me to test your product with Vista Home Preimum send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will try and find some time to test and report any passes, failiors, and bug reports related with the failior if necessary. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Vista Game Compatibility Chart
tom on www.softwarepatch.com there are several updates. One of these deals with games and other things being incompatible, these are sighted things but it may pay to install that. also there are usb device and firewire and other things you may wish to load. Who knows. I'm not upgrading if we lose midi support and the wave out mix support. At 08:09 p.m. 28/02/2007, you wrote: Hello gamers and fellow developers, Earlier today I spent a large part of this morning and afternoon testing and trouble shooting applications and games as I port everything from Windows XP to Windows Vista. Many of these applications were accessible games. Many passed with no issues, some passed with issues, and others did not pass at all. The results of my findings can be found in the chart below. BSC Games Hunter Failed Had errors Pipe 2.0 Failed Had errors Unable to run Troopenum 2.0 Failed Had errors Unable to run Draconis Entertainment Aliens in the Outback 2.02 Passed No issues Dinaman 2.2.5 Passed No issues Monkey Business Untested Unknown Pinball Classic Passed No issues Pinball Extreme Passed No issues Dan Z Games \ None tested GMA Games GMA Tank Commander 1.2 Passed No issues Lonewolf 3.5.5 partial Had errors Unable to connect with Window Eyes 6.1 when using screen reader support, but could be used with Sapi 5 tts engines. Shades of Doom 1.2 Passed No issues Trek 2000 Untested Unknown Kitchens Inc Baseball Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Battleship Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Golf Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Life Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Monopoly Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install NFL Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install Spanker Failed Had errors Unable to unpack and install L-Works Judgement Day 1.0 Passed No issues Super Liam 1.0 Passed No issues PCS Games Packman Talks 1.0 Passed No issues Sarah and the Castle of Whichcraft and Wizardry 2005 beta Passed No issues Super Dog Bone Hunt 1.0 Passed No Issues USA Games Final Conflict 1.0 Failed Had errors Unsolved Montezuma's Revenge Alpha 4.4 Failed Had errors unsolved USA Raceway 0.1 Failed Had errors Unsolved If you are a game developer and would like me to test your product with Vista Home Preimum send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will try and find some time to test and report any passes, failiors, and bug reports related with the failior if necessary. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
