[Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hi All, As those of you on audiogames.net will probably have noticed, agarchive.net is running into some hosting issues. The short version is that cPanel, the company supporting the archive's web host, has quarantined the games directory on grounds that we don't have legal rights to distribute the files. They are asking for documentation for each file in order to prove that we can in fact host the games, and since this is a collection of about 450 different titles, acquiring that documentation (by installing each game and quoting its license agreement) is a prohibitively massive task. Therefore, I'm looking for ideas - does anybody have thoughts as to where we could host the archive that would be easily accessible to all and have a constant uptime? Let me know your thoughts - the response to the archive has been extremely enthusiastic, and I'd hate for the project to vanish a week after it starts. John P.S: As I said on audiogames.net, I'd appreciate it if folks could avoid sending hatemail to my web host over this. Jolly Leaf has been tremendously helpful (and is continuing to work with me on the issue now), so I want to make sure they don't get targeted because of these issues. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hmm. I wonder if NS-studios, or VGStorm would give you a little web space for this? Devin Pratersent from Gmail. On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 12:56 PM, john wrote: > Hi All, > > As those of you on audiogames.net will probably have noticed, > agarchive.net is running into some hosting issues. > > The short version is that cPanel, the company supporting the archive's web > host, has quarantined the games directory on grounds that we don't have > legal rights to distribute the files. > > They are asking for documentation for each file in order to prove that we > can in fact host the games, and since this is a collection of about 450 > different titles, acquiring that documentation (by installing each game and > quoting its license agreement) is a prohibitively massive task. > > Therefore, I'm looking for ideas - does anybody have thoughts as to where > we could host the archive that would be easily accessible to all and have a > constant uptime? > > Let me know your thoughts - the response to the archive has been extremely > enthusiastic, and I'd hate for the project to vanish a week after it starts. > > > > John > > > > P.S: > > As I said on audiogames.net, I'd appreciate it if folks could avoid > sending hatemail to my web host over this. > > Jolly Leaf has been tremendously helpful (and is continuing to work with > me on the issue now), so I want to make sure they don't get targeted > because of these issues. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to Gamers-unsubscribe@audyssey. > org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hi Devin, Unfortunately we're looking at more than a little space - 50gb is probably a fair estimate once things really get rolling. Bandwidth is also a big deal; we served about 60gb of files in our first week. I'm currently in the process of looking at whatever offers I can get - whether that be setting up on somebody's server in the community, getting a VPS with my current host or anything else people can come up with. -- From: "Devin Prater" Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 15:02 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update Hmm. I wonder if NS-studios, or VGStorm would give you a little web space for this? Devin Pratersent from Gmail. On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 12:56 PM, john wrote: > Hi All, > > As those of you on audiogames.net will probably have noticed, > agarchive.net is running into some hosting issues. > > The short version is that cPanel, the company supporting the archive's web > host, has quarantined the games directory on grounds that we don't have > legal rights to distribute the files. > > They are asking for documentation for each file in order to prove that we > can in fact host the games, and since this is a collection of about 450 > different titles, acquiring that documentation (by installing each game > and > quoting its license agreement) is a prohibitively massive task. > > Therefore, I'm looking for ideas - does anybody have thoughts as to where > we could host the archive that would be easily accessible to all and have > a > constant uptime? > > Let me know your thoughts - the response to the archive has been extremely > enthusiastic, and I'd hate for the project to vanish a week after it > starts. > > > > John > > > > P.S: > > As I said on audiogames.net, I'd appreciate it if folks could avoid > sending hatemail to my web host over this. > > Jolly Leaf has been tremendously helpful (and is continuing to work with > me on the issue now), so I want to make sure they don't get targeted > because of these issues. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to Gamers-unsubscribe@audyssey. > org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Most people use c panel, it will do no good where ever you host. Fact is if we can't contact a lot of these devs or they are dead you are through. You will probably run into problems anywhere you post the archive. There is probably no real way to get all the documentation and its utterly non feesable. One thing, if its all abandonware, would be to put a text message in each archived zip saying it was public domain and or posting it on archive.org. By doing that then the game in question is public domain and free for people to do whatever. Even comercial games well at least the files. I know for the comercial games its not exactly fully true and fact is archive.org can be slow and has some restrictions but still. What document do these guys want. Do they want every f***cking dev to f**cking validate the f**cking files even those that are dead or out of f**cking business? Every page has cpanel so. On 12/09/2016 5:56 a.m., john wrote: Hi All, As those of you on audiogames.net will probably have noticed, agarchive.net is running into some hosting issues. The short version is that cPanel, the company supporting the archive's web host, has quarantined the games directory on grounds that we don't have legal rights to distribute the files. They are asking for documentation for each file in order to prove that we can in fact host the games, and since this is a collection of about 450 different titles, acquiring that documentation (by installing each game and quoting its license agreement) is a prohibitively massive task. Therefore, I'm looking for ideas - does anybody have thoughts as to where we could host the archive that would be easily accessible to all and have a constant uptime? Let me know your thoughts - the response to the archive has been extremely enthusiastic, and I'd hate for the project to vanish a week after it starts. John P.S: As I said on audiogames.net, I'd appreciate it if folks could avoid sending hatemail to my web host over this. Jolly Leaf has been tremendously helpful (and is continuing to work with me on the issue now), so I want to make sure they don't get targeted because of these issues. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hi John. This is a real arse! Frankly if your web host have an issue they should check the license themselves, sodding copywrite! I confess I really! hope this works out and the links do not change since I've spent a considerable time updating many of the audiogames.net database pages, either to games hosted on the archive, or to developer's pages on the archive for people to get more information, and the thought of doing all that again because of some phony legal crap frankly makes me scream! So, definite sympathy about this and I hope the idiots at your web host get their collective arses in gear and stop being such scuzbags. I am aware you've said they've been helpful, but this isn't! helpful to anyone at all, not even the original creators of the games given their either abandonware or demo versions and can be redistributed anyway, after all were you actually! engaged in distributing stuff that hamred developeers audiogames.net would have nothing to do with the site. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
John, I've e-mailed you privately about this, please respond when you have time, to say I'm disgusted is an understatement, but to summarize Cpanel themselves have been so notified that their being used as a scapegoat by your hosting provider and they are not impressed. They're only question is why do we care? It's not our hardware and storage space, we actually think this is a cool idea so come on, now. Shane list owner On 2016-09-12 3:57 AM, dark wrote: Hi John. This is a real arse! Frankly if your web host have an issue they should check the license themselves, sodding copywrite! I confess I really! hope this works out and the links do not change since I've spent a considerable time updating many of the audiogames.net database pages, either to games hosted on the archive, or to developer's pages on the archive for people to get more information, and the thought of doing all that again because of some phony legal crap frankly makes me scream! So, definite sympathy about this and I hope the idiots at your web host get their collective arses in gear and stop being such scuzbags. I am aware you've said they've been helpful, but this isn't! helpful to anyone at all, not even the original creators of the games given their either abandonware or demo versions and can be redistributed anyway, after all were you actually! engaged in distributing stuff that hamred developeers audiogames.net would have nothing to do with the site. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hi Dark, The problem isn't my web host Jolly Leaf, the problem is their web host cPanel. I'm going to do my best to make sure the agarchive.net domain remains alive and functioning, so don't worry about the links just yet. -- From: "dark" Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 3:57 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update Hi John. This is a real arse! Frankly if your web host have an issue they should check the license themselves, sodding copywrite! I confess I really! hope this works out and the links do not change since I've spent a considerable time updating many of the audiogames.net database pages, either to games hosted on the archive, or to developer's pages on the archive for people to get more information, and the thought of doing all that again because of some phony legal crap frankly makes me scream! So, definite sympathy about this and I hope the idiots at your web host get their collective arses in gear and stop being such scuzbags. I am aware you've said they've been helpful, but this isn't! helpful to anyone at all, not even the original creators of the games given their either abandonware or demo versions and can be redistributed anyway, after all were you actually! engaged in distributing stuff that hamred developeers audiogames.net would have nothing to do with the site. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hi John. Good to here that Jolly leaf are being useful. If C panel would like audiogames.net to assure them that you not redistributing anything that shouldn't be, I'll be glad to write something. As I said, it's very firmly in the site policy that we don't support game theft. I am about halfway through the archive thus far, you can see most of the changes in our most recent news items on site. It's a great resource and is helping the audiogames.net database a huge amount, so I really hope it's sorted out. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hi list. Forgive my ignorance, but what is this all about? I have one off topic question and sorry I'm posting it here. I love alter aeon on mush z. Does anyone know if there are other accessible games other than gods of war I can play on mush z? I'm also looking for more 2d games like the way manaman is set up and some of the minnigeames in crazy party. Also, are there anymore games that include a lot of minigames? Sorry for all the questions. Jess --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hi Jess, Sorry for the late response - things have been extremely hectic here lately. Agarchive.net is essentially a central hub of audiogames, with a focus on abandoned or no longer reachable titles. You can get more info at: www.agarchive.net/pages/faq.html -- From: "Jess Varnell" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:37 To: Subject: Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update Hi list. Forgive my ignorance, but what is this all about? I have one off topic question and sorry I'm posting it here. I love alter aeon on mush z. Does anyone know if there are other accessible games other than gods of war I can play on mush z? I'm also looking for more 2d games like the way manaman is set up and some of the minnigeames in crazy party. Also, are there anymore games that include a lot of minigames? Sorry for all the questions. Jess --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update
Hi. Many shared hosting providers may not be happy with you using 60 gb of space. It might actually make the most sense to use a vps as you mentioned. You might also be able to right up some other way to handle it. I don't actually know what your project is, going backwards through my email here. But bit torrent sync could allow you to create a folder with all the content, then people with access to the preferably read-only key could connect and pull all the data for themselves, and if they stay in the folder will then be available to help with your bandwidth usage as still more people grab the folder and hopefully stay in it. I think the vps my friends and I have could help with something llike bt sync. You'd be better off using your own vps if you can afford it for maintaining a website though, we do a lot with ours that could have us needing to reboot it and the like since it's windows and we use it like a regular computer to help send files to people on skype, add files to dropbox and the like. Would be perfect for a huge bt sync folder though. Might even be able to create an ftp folder to access it and I do have a small http server running on it so if nothing else you could create backup download links to grab files from it if people can't get it any other way. Can you add me on skype? Aarontech.valiant is my id. I don't accept everyone who adds me so it would help if in the comment for the add request you mention you're from audyssey. Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.5.0 portable On 9/11/2016 3:07 PM, john wrote: Hi Devin, Unfortunately we're looking at more than a little space - 50gb is probably a fair estimate once things really get rolling. Bandwidth is also a big deal; we served about 60gb of files in our first week. I'm currently in the process of looking at whatever offers I can get - whether that be setting up on somebody's server in the community, getting a VPS with my current host or anything else people can come up with. -- From: "Devin Prater" Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 15:02 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] agarchive.net: an update Hmm. I wonder if NS-studios, or VGStorm would give you a little web space for this? Devin Pratersent from Gmail. On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 12:56 PM, john wrote: Hi All, As those of you on audiogames.net will probably have noticed, agarchive.net is running into some hosting issues. The short version is that cPanel, the company supporting the archive's web host, has quarantined the games directory on grounds that we don't have legal rights to distribute the files. They are asking for documentation for each file in order to prove that we can in fact host the games, and since this is a collection of about 450 different titles, acquiring that documentation (by installing each game and quoting its license agreement) is a prohibitively massive task. Therefore, I'm looking for ideas - does anybody have thoughts as to where we could host the archive that would be easily accessible to all and have a constant uptime? Let me know your thoughts - the response to the archive has been extremely enthusiastic, and I'd hate for the project to vanish a week after it starts. John P.S: As I said on audiogames.net, I'd appreciate it if folks could avoid sending hatemail to my web host over this. Jolly Leaf has been tremendously helpful (and is continuing to work with me on the issue now), so I want to make sure they don't get targeted because of these issues. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to Gamers-unsubscribe@audyssey. org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey
