Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf

2011-12-12 Thread Charles Rivard

And now we have to use a system of ribbons instead of pulldown menus.

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From: "Jim Kitchen" 

To: "Thomas Ward" 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for 
anupdatedLone Wolf




Hi Thomas,

Yeah, you know allot of people just do not like change.  Routine is 
comfortable.  And learning a new way of doing things may not be easy for 
some.  And then there is that often our access is behind.  That is our 
screen reader of choice may not support the newest version of an operating 
system as it comes out.  And then I don't think that the graphical user 
interface is as intuitive for us as it is for sighted folks.  So when it 
totally changes it may be harder for us to get a grip on what is going on 
with it.  Heck it took allot of blind people a very long time to move on 
from the text based command line to the graphical user interface.


BFN

Jim

A long time ago I changed my name from Ron Moore.

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Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf

2011-12-13 Thread shaun everiss

yeah, though ribbons are just menus on a big string.
At 09:30 a.m. 12/12/2011 -0600, you wrote:

And now we have to use a system of ribbons instead of pulldown menus.

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- Original Message - From: "Jim Kitchen" 
To: "Thomas Ward" 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for 
anupdatedLone Wolf




Hi Thomas,

Yeah, you know allot of people just do not like change.  Routine is 
comfortable.  And learning a new way of doing things may not be 
easy for some.  And then there is that often our access is 
behind.  That is our screen reader of choice may not support the 
newest version of an operating system as it comes out.  And then I 
don't think that the graphical user interface is as intuitive for 
us as it is for sighted folks.  So when it totally changes it may 
be harder for us to get a grip on what is going on with it.  Heck 
it took allot of blind people a very long time to move on from the 
text based command line to the graphical user interface.


BFN

Jim

A long time ago I changed my name from Ron Moore.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf

2011-12-13 Thread Jim Kitchen


Hi Trouble,

Yeah the only really good thing about dos text games was that the text got 
spoken automatically by every single dos screen reader.  Of course now people 
like Jeremy are coding directly to the API of all of the windows screen 
readers.  I never figured out how to do that, so only code to the sapi5 speech 
engine.  But it sure made all the difference in the world when windows gave me 
DirectX so that my games could asynchronously play wave files, multiple wave 
files, pan the wave files and adjust the volume and frequency of the wave 
files.  So yes, probably most of the change is good, some is not so much 
though.  At least in my opinion.  But I do still like to do allot of things the 
old fashion way.  Like I have made a short cut icon on the desk top for the 
programs that I run all the time.  One of those short cuts is just to the 
command prompt.  I spend allot of time at the command prompt.  And I have 
written many batch files for doing things like changing to folders that I go 
into all the time.  And batch files for listing folders in the old dos 8, 3, 
size and date format.  And the same format but by size or date.  And then my 
command prompt beeps to let me know when it is done so that I can start looking 
at the listing bottom up with the review cursor.  You know just like I used to 
on a dos computer.  Batch files are great for making backups as well.  I just 
find allot of things are still easier or quicker to do at the command prompt 
than they are in the windows interface.

BFN

Jim

The command prompt is our friend.

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