Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-14 Thread aaron danvers-jukes
cool, accessible sidescrollers.
i have many sidescrollers... and i mean many, over 100. and i've completed 
lots of em. heck, i played a game called king of dragons with no sighted 
assistance completed the game in about an hour.
i can play sonic without assistance, but marrio... no! i cannot play that.
i enjoy robocop, a game i found quite reasontly i thought it will be rubbish 
but i actually love it!
i'd like to see some of these games made accessible.
i can even get the original sound effects for you!
they are free... but you cannot download them, i think i may be the only one 
who knows how to rip sounds from these games


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Wow, that would be cool hearinbg some of the classic sounds again.


aaron danvers-jukes wrote:
 cool, accessible sidescrollers.
 i have many sidescrollers... and i mean many, over 100. and i've completed 
 lots of em. heck, i played a game called king of dragons with no sighted 
 assistance completed the game in about an hour.
 i can play sonic without assistance, but marrio... no! i cannot play that.
 i enjoy robocop, a game i found quite reasontly i thought it will be rubbish 
 but i actually love it!
 i'd like to see some of these games made accessible.
 i can even get the original sound effects for you!
 they are free... but you cannot download them, i think i may be the only one 
 who knows how to rip sounds from these games


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
There are some sighted remakes of Montezuma's Revenge but the USA Games 
version is the only accessible remake of the game. Smile.


Bryan Peterson wrote:
 This is the remake. So far as I know there are no others.
 It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go.
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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all,
Dark was talking about playing a non-accessible remake of Montezuma's 
Revenge not the accessible games that USA Games is producing.As it 
happens I am hoping above hope Alpha 2 will be out in the next 30 to 60 
days. I've got a voice acter doing the audio naration of the game as 
well as I am doing a massive debug on the engine. I've got allot to go, 
but it is coming along pretty well.
Allot depends on how long it takes to make the new audio naration and 
get various other things working such as game controller support.

aaron danvers-jukes wrote:
 no, not the usa games version. dark said something about a remake. while i 
 am waiting for the usa games version, i want to play this said remake.


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-13 Thread aaron danvers-jukes
ah... buyt i've been trained in sidescrollers. i wana try these remakes.


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-13 Thread shaun everiss
remakes are just cool
At 07:23 a.m. 14/01/2007, you wrote:
ah... buyt i've been trained in sidescrollers. i wana try these remakes.


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Aaron,
Well, once Montezuma's Revenge is released I suspect USA Games will 
produce more side scrollers based on the Monty engine as all the really 
hard work is done. Just need to introduce changes for megaman, double 
dragon, castlevania, or whatever side scroller we pick to do.
The basic infastructure though would be in place for more side scroller 
production.


aaron danvers-jukes wrote:
 ah... buyt i've been trained in sidescrollers. i wana try these remakes.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-12 Thread aaron danvers-jukes
no, not the usa games version. dark said something about a remake. while i 
am waiting for the usa games version, i want to play this said remake.


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol,
There is a saying here in the USA,  you bit the big one, which is a 
way of saying you died or was killed in a big or spectacular way.
It is commonly used in our books, tv shows, and even some songs use it 
that way. An example is there is a Christian rock band called News Boys 
who made a silly song called Breakfast in Hell.They said something like 
when the toast is burned, and the milkh has turned, and Captain crunch 
waves fairwell. When the big one finds you may this song remind you 
there is no breakfast in hell.
Well, they meant by the big one you died, and went to hell, and the rest 
of it is self-explanitory.



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 HI thom
 Could you explain this please! What do you mean with:  Begin quote if
 you had 8 gems when you bit the big one end quote. You don't bite anyone
 in monty, do you? As far as I know you kill monsters if you pick up a
 sword, otherwise you jump over them.  It's the first time I heard that
 you also bite enemies in monty if I understand you correctly.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Oh, almost forgot. Your idea of adding this losing gems and gold as a 
matter of higher experience levels is an interesting concept. Would add 
more than just speed to the game as a factor to beating those levels.
I like the concept.


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,
The original and the USA Games version of Montezuma's Revenge is all 
about memory as well as skill. Gems will always be in their own 
locations. Yeah they will be in out of the way places, and as you play 
it will be up to you to figure out where all of them are located.
Jumping is much easier than in the Alchemy demo and the Alpha 1 demo, 
but that doesn't mean the game itself is any easier. Monsters move fast, 
and your actions have to be quick, especially on insane, to keep from 
being skull, snake, or spider chow.


Dark wrote:
 H, my only minor thought with that idea is that if the Gems and gold are 
 hidden in out of the way places (as in original Monti), finding them all 
 might be a bit frustrating if they'd vanish when you died, how would you 
 know when you'd collected all of them?

 While I like the penalties idea for competition, perhaps having it exclusive 
 to a higher difficulty or a separate mode might help in bonus collecting.

 Btw, when I heard you were making the game I recently went and tried the 
 original (or at least, an extremely faithful Pc remake), and it actually 
 sounds as if your adding lots of stuff to the game as well as making it 
 accessible. i just hope jumping over monster is slightly easier, I found the 
 original extremely frustrating for this ;D.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Dark
Glad you like the idea. Personally, I'm not all that interested in score, 
but I do like to find everything there is to find in a game and explore 
every passageway (Metroid style).

Btw, By Original Monti I was thinking of the 1980's atari game (it's 
graffic's are simple enough for me to cope with), I haven't played the 
Alchemy demo or alpher 1 version yet. Sorry if this wasn't clear, and sorry 
for discussing main stream non-audio games here.

All the best,

Dark.


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 Hi,
 Oh, almost forgot. Your idea of adding this losing gems and gold as a
 matter of higher experience levels is an interesting concept. Would add
 more than just speed to the game as a factor to beating those levels.
 I like the concept.


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Yohandy
Lol. That's another way of saying you were killed.



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 HI thom
 Could you explain this please! What do you mean with:  Begin quote if
 you had 8 gems when you bit the big one end quote. You don't bite anyone
 in monty, do you? As far as I know you kill monsters if you pick up a
 sword, otherwise you jump over them.  It's the first time I heard that
 you also bite enemies in monty if I understand you correctly.

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 Sent: 11 January 2007 07:35 AM
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 Subject: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

 Hi all,
 Earlier tonight I was playing the very original Alchemy demo of
 Montezuma's Revenge with some of my own patches and mods, of course, and

 one major thing stood out in that demo and the current USA Games
 version. In the Alchemy version there were some major penalties to
 getting killed. For example if you had 8 gems when you bit the big one
 your gems counter, gold, etc was reset to 0.
 So I am thinking of reintroducing this in to Monty. The one thing I
 wouldn't include is losing your keys as those are required for
 completing the level. However, if you lost your gems and gold your score

 might take a major hit.
 This would be a major factor for when I eventually get online score
 posting etc when those of you out there begin competing for the highest
 scores, and so on. What do you all think?



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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Bryan Peterson
We also say bit the dust, so don't be surprised if you hear that one too.
It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go.
J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas
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 Oh thanks  Thomas!
 I never heard that expression in south Africa.  I learnt something new.

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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

 Hi Nicol,
 There is a saying here in the USA,  you bit the big one, which is a
 way of saying you died or was killed in a big or spectacular way.
 It is commonly used in our books, tv shows, and even some songs use it
 that way. An example is there is a Christian rock band called News Boys
 who made a silly song called Breakfast in Hell.They said something like
 when the toast is burned, and the milkh has turned, and Captain crunch
 waves fairwell. When the big one finds you may this song remind you
 there is no breakfast in hell.
 Well, they meant by the big one you died, and went to hell, and the rest

 of it is self-explanitory.


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread aaron danvers-jukes
where can i find this remake? is it accessible?


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Bryan Peterson
It's going to be accessible but it's not out yet. Go to www.usagames.us
It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go.
J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas
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 where can i find this remake? is it accessible?


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Arron,
The demo is not up yet, but the home page for Montezuma's Revenge is
http://www.usagames.us/montezuma.html
Cheers.

aaron danvers-jukes wrote:
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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,
That is doable. Actually, what you loose could depend on the difficulty 
level in question. On Easy you loose nothing hense easy. As you increase 
difficulty a little more of your treasure goes bye bye along with that 
awesome score you were trying to get.
Although, this would have to not apply to bonus rounds which don't 
really count against your lives counter.

Charles Rivard wrote:
 I would like the idea of not losing on the easiest difficulty level, but 
 losing stuff on higher skill levels.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol,
While it is true you won't be buying things with the gold and gems and 
other treasures you find those are the very purpose of playing the game 
to hunt for treasure. Losing it you will have to collect as much 
gold/gems as you can find to help improve your score. If you loose your 
gems and gold your score will drop, and for those doing online 
competitions for first place it will hurt his or her chances of being a 
top person on the score boards.


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 I have no problem with it, thom. I'm used to my gold to  go back to 0 if
 I die in self destruct or if I go to the next level in self destruct so
 its something I'm used to by now.  IN monty you can't buy anything with
 the gold or gems, but in self destruct you do. So If your gold wasn't
 set to 0 at the next level in self destruct  it would be easier to buy
 more ammunition and health and  blast all those urchins at once and be
 able to have enough gold for the teleporter, so its not really such a
 big loss if  your gold and gems is set to 0 in monty  if you die.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,
Well, the purpose in Montezuma's Revenge is to collect all the treasure 
you can find and get before you either complete the game or die.
Oh, I am glad you got the 80's classic. I haven't played that version in 
more years than I can remember. Was kind of a cool game though.
My version is more or less like Montezuma's Revenge from the 80's but 
with some unique twists and other miner changes. The levels aren't 
exactly layed out the same, but other than that hey it has the basic 
game play and concepts.


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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

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HI thom
Could you explain this please! What do you mean with:  Begin quote if
you had 8 gems when you bit the big one end quote. You don't bite anyone
in monty, do you? As far as I know you kill monsters if you pick up a
sword, otherwise you jump over them.  It's the first time I heard that
you also bite enemies in monty if I understand you correctly.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 11 January 2007 07:35 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

Hi all,
Earlier tonight I was playing the very original Alchemy demo of 
Montezuma's Revenge with some of my own patches and mods, of course, and

one major thing stood out in that demo and the current USA Games 
version. In the Alchemy version there were some major penalties to 
getting killed. For example if you had 8 gems when you bit the big one 
your gems counter, gold, etc was reset to 0.
So I am thinking of reintroducing this in to Monty. The one thing I 
wouldn't include is losing your keys as those are required for 
completing the level. However, if you lost your gems and gold your score

might take a major hit.
This would be a major factor for when I eventually get online score 
posting etc when those of you out there begin competing for the highest 
scores, and so on. What do you all think?



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Re: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.

2007-01-10 Thread Dark
H, my only minor thought with that idea is that if the Gems and gold are 
hidden in out of the way places (as in original Monti), finding them all 
might be a bit frustrating if they'd vanish when you died, how would you 
know when you'd collected all of them?

While I like the penalties idea for competition, perhaps having it exclusive 
to a higher difficulty or a separate mode might help in bonus collecting.

Btw, when I heard you were making the game I recently went and tried the 
original (or at least, an extremely faithful Pc remake), and it actually 
sounds as if your adding lots of stuff to the game as well as making it 
accessible. i just hope jumping over monster is slightly easier, I found the 
original extremely frustrating for this ;D.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:35 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Monty penalties.


 Hi all,
 Earlier tonight I was playing the very original Alchemy demo of
 Montezuma's Revenge with some of my own patches and mods, of course, and
 one major thing stood out in that demo and the current USA Games
 version. In the Alchemy version there were some major penalties to
 getting killed. For example if you had 8 gems when you bit the big one
 your gems counter, gold, etc was reset to 0.
 So I am thinking of reintroducing this in to Monty. The one thing I
 wouldn't include is losing your keys as those are required for
 completing the level. However, if you lost your gems and gold your score
 might take a major hit.
 This would be a major factor for when I eventually get online score
 posting etc when those of you out there begin competing for the highest
 scores, and so on. What do you all think?



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