Re: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling - Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters
I don't know what the size of a 50 cent peace is exactly, but as my brother is n archer himself I do know some feats in the olympics by archers are quite astounding. To be honest with sports, and to an extent with music simply saying a person is a professional when they get paid doesn't work for me, since to me if a person is a professional, even if they don't get paid it implies the time, and effort they put into a thing and the level at which they do it. I have met fantastic musicians, who don't actually make money from music simply because it's damnably difficult to make a living that way, but perform on a regular basis, often doing performance where the proceeds go to for charity, indeed I've done such things myself. That's why I question the term ameter wrestling when used of an olympic wrestler. Indeed if you lined up the olympic wrestling goldmedel winner beside a star from wwe roar or smackdown and asked me who I considdered the more serious and professional wrestler, I know who I'd say, (at least in most cases, given that some of the stars of show wrestling can do some pretty impressive things). Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling - Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters The difference between pro and amateur is that the amateur does not get paid any money for participating and winning. Olympic athletes are every bit as skilled as professionals, but they don't receive money for their endeavors. I have seen Olympic archers shooting at a 48-inch diameter target that has a bull's eye that is about the size of a soda can't top from a distance of 90 meters, which is roughly 100 yards. This was outdoors, so they also had to contend with the wind. Indoors, they shoot at a distance of 18 meters, or about 20 yards, at a target that is about a foot in diameter with a bull's eye that is roughly the size of a $0.50 piece. They have beaten professionals. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters Hi Dark, I definitely agree. I think show wrestling and competitive wrestling is more suited than pro wrestling and amateur wrestling which doesn't really make sense given that some amateur wrestlers are pro athletes who compete in the Olympics and other major competitions like that. On 12/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I agree Jacob, though it seems a shame to describe something which is done at the olympic level, where people spend thousands of hours training and competing as ameter after all you'd not say someone who cycles or runs or swims in the olympics as an ameter in that sport. Myself, I think show wrestiling vs competitive wrestling is a reasonable distinction, much as you would describe an actor who has learn some flamboient fencing techniques to use in the theatre as a show fencer compared to anyone who actually competes in the sport. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling -Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters
Regardless of the skill of the person, that is the legal distinction. Professionals get paid, amateurs do not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling -Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters I don't know what the size of a 50 cent peace is exactly, but as my brother is n archer himself I do know some feats in the olympics by archers are quite astounding. To be honest with sports, and to an extent with music simply saying a person is a professional when they get paid doesn't work for me, since to me if a person is a professional, even if they don't get paid it implies the time, and effort they put into a thing and the level at which they do it. I have met fantastic musicians, who don't actually make money from music simply because it's damnably difficult to make a living that way, but perform on a regular basis, often doing performance where the proceeds go to for charity, indeed I've done such things myself. That's why I question the term ameter wrestling when used of an olympic wrestler. Indeed if you lined up the olympic wrestling goldmedel winner beside a star from wwe roar or smackdown and asked me who I considdered the more serious and professional wrestler, I know who I'd say, (at least in most cases, given that some of the stars of show wrestling can do some pretty impressive things). Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling - Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters The difference between pro and amateur is that the amateur does not get paid any money for participating and winning. Olympic athletes are every bit as skilled as professionals, but they don't receive money for their endeavors. I have seen Olympic archers shooting at a 48-inch diameter target that has a bull's eye that is about the size of a soda can't top from a distance of 90 meters, which is roughly 100 yards. This was outdoors, so they also had to contend with the wind. Indoors, they shoot at a distance of 18 meters, or about 20 yards, at a target that is about a foot in diameter with a bull's eye that is roughly the size of a $0.50 piece. They have beaten professionals. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters Hi Dark, I definitely agree. I think show wrestling and competitive wrestling is more suited than pro wrestling and amateur wrestling which doesn't really make sense given that some amateur wrestlers are pro athletes who compete in the Olympics and other major competitions like that. On 12/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I agree Jacob, though it seems a shame to describe something which is done at the olympic level, where people spend thousands of hours training and competing as ameter after all you'd not say someone who cycles or runs or swims in the olympics as an ameter in that sport. Myself, I think show wrestiling vs competitive wrestling is a reasonable distinction, much as you would describe an actor who has learn some flamboient fencing techniques to use in the theatre as a show fencer compared to anyone who actually competes in the sport. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr
Re: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling-Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters
Well charlse, law be buggered!this is again one of those categorical states I think where you perhaps draw a strict distinction when in reality things are more fluid, and to me putting an olympic athelete who trains for sevral hours a day in the same category as someone who just goes to the gym once a month is incorrect, and indeed a little insulting. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling-Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters Regardless of the skill of the person, that is the legal distinction. Professionals get paid, amateurs do not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling -Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters I don't know what the size of a 50 cent peace is exactly, but as my brother is n archer himself I do know some feats in the olympics by archers are quite astounding. To be honest with sports, and to an extent with music simply saying a person is a professional when they get paid doesn't work for me, since to me if a person is a professional, even if they don't get paid it implies the time, and effort they put into a thing and the level at which they do it. I have met fantastic musicians, who don't actually make money from music simply because it's damnably difficult to make a living that way, but perform on a regular basis, often doing performance where the proceeds go to for charity, indeed I've done such things myself. That's why I question the term ameter wrestling when used of an olympic wrestler. Indeed if you lined up the olympic wrestling goldmedel winner beside a star from wwe roar or smackdown and asked me who I considdered the more serious and professional wrestler, I know who I'd say, (at least in most cases, given that some of the stars of show wrestling can do some pretty impressive things). Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling - Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters The difference between pro and amateur is that the amateur does not get paid any money for participating and winning. Olympic athletes are every bit as skilled as professionals, but they don't receive money for their endeavors. I have seen Olympic archers shooting at a 48-inch diameter target that has a bull's eye that is about the size of a soda can't top from a distance of 90 meters, which is roughly 100 yards. This was outdoors, so they also had to contend with the wind. Indoors, they shoot at a distance of 18 meters, or about 20 yards, at a target that is about a foot in diameter with a bull's eye that is roughly the size of a $0.50 piece. They have beaten professionals. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters Hi Dark, I definitely agree. I think show wrestling and competitive wrestling is more suited than pro wrestling and amateur wrestling which doesn't really make sense given that some amateur wrestlers are pro athletes who compete in the Olympics and other major competitions like that. On 12/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I agree Jacob, though it seems a shame to describe something which is done at the olympic level, where people spend thousands of hours training and competing as ameter after all you'd not say someone who cycles or runs or swims in the olympics as an ameter in that sport. Myself, I think show wrestiling vs competitive wrestling is a reasonable distinction, much as you would describe an actor who has learn some flamboient fencing techniques to use in the theatre as a show fencer compared to anyone who actually competes in the sport. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management
