Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

2010-01-18 Thread Rhonda Scott
Our sighted 10 year old son enjoys having us play games on the Wii with him, 
but I get frustrated because with bowling, for instance, as you mentioned, I 
don't know which pins are still standing, and Deven has to aim for me so I 
can have a shot at knocking down the rest. We play Wii sports with him 
sometimes because it makes him happy, but I get easily frustrated playing 
games where someone has to do practically everything for me except the 
movements. So perhaps there are other Wii games more accessible for 
completely blind players. The boxing one is kind of fun because some of the 
sounds alert you to which player is getting their butt kicked, and once the 
round begins you just do your best to box all areas of your opponent's body.

Rhonda

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


I've heard some game reviews about this game console that said that the
games are accessible, only to find out that the games cannot be accurately
played.  For example, how can you tell what pins remain standing after you
roll your first ball in bowling?  How do you know where to aim on any shot?
I don't want to guess or to have a pretty good idea.  I want to actually
know, before I bowl, what I am aiming at, and where it is.  The same goes
for tennis or any of the other games.  I want skill, not luck, to be the
determining factor in how well I play.  As far as that goes, I want this in
any game I play.
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From: lelia struv...@yahoo.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:14 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


Hi all, well, lots of family and friends have the we and I am wondering what
if any games or exercises or such are accessible for us?

thanks

lelia


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Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

2010-01-18 Thread Bryan Peterson
I often play Wii Sports Bowling with my sighted folks. The only thing they 
have to do is tell me where to aim by telling me how many clicks to move the 
D-pad in a given direction to aim. I do everything myself and my folks just 
direct me. Then I play Wii Fit. My mom or dad makes the menu selectsions of 
course but I do everything else.

Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - 
From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net
To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list 
gamers@audyssey.org

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


Our sighted 10 year old son enjoys having us play games on the Wii with 
him,
but I get frustrated because with bowling, for instance, as you mentioned, 
I

don't know which pins are still standing, and Deven has to aim for me so I
can have a shot at knocking down the rest. We play Wii sports with him
sometimes because it makes him happy, but I get easily frustrated playing
games where someone has to do practically everything for me except the
movements. So perhaps there are other Wii games more accessible for
completely blind players. The boxing one is kind of fun because some of 
the
sounds alert you to which player is getting their butt kicked, and once 
the
round begins you just do your best to box all areas of your opponent's 
body.


Rhonda

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


I've heard some game reviews about this game console that said that the
games are accessible, only to find out that the games cannot be accurately
played.  For example, how can you tell what pins remain standing after you
roll your first ball in bowling?  How do you know where to aim on any 
shot?

I don't want to guess or to have a pretty good idea.  I want to actually
know, before I bowl, what I am aiming at, and where it is.  The same goes
for tennis or any of the other games.  I want skill, not luck, to be the
determining factor in how well I play.  As far as that goes, I want this 
in

any game I play.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:14 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


Hi all, well, lots of family and friends have the we and I am wondering 
what

if any games or exercises or such are accessible for us?

thanks

lelia


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Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

2010-01-18 Thread Charles Rivard
If you are the only person in the room, can you play the games with 
accuracy?  If not, then it is not accessible in my opinion.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list 
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


I often play Wii Sports Bowling with my sighted folks. The only thing they
have to do is tell me where to aim by telling me how many clicks to move the
D-pad in a given direction to aim. I do everything myself and my folks just
direct me. Then I play Wii Fit. My mom or dad makes the menu selectsions of
course but I do everything else.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - 
From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net
To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


 Our sighted 10 year old son enjoys having us play games on the Wii with
 him,
 but I get frustrated because with bowling, for instance, as you mentioned,
 I
 don't know which pins are still standing, and Deven has to aim for me so I
 can have a shot at knocking down the rest. We play Wii sports with him
 sometimes because it makes him happy, but I get easily frustrated playing
 games where someone has to do practically everything for me except the
 movements. So perhaps there are other Wii games more accessible for
 completely blind players. The boxing one is kind of fun because some of
 the
 sounds alert you to which player is getting their butt kicked, and once
 the
 round begins you just do your best to box all areas of your opponent's
 body.

 Rhonda

 - Original Message - 
 From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


 I've heard some game reviews about this game console that said that the
 games are accessible, only to find out that the games cannot be accurately
 played.  For example, how can you tell what pins remain standing after you
 roll your first ball in bowling?  How do you know where to aim on any
 shot?
 I don't want to guess or to have a pretty good idea.  I want to actually
 know, before I bowl, what I am aiming at, and where it is.  The same goes
 for tennis or any of the other games.  I want skill, not luck, to be the
 determining factor in how well I play.  As far as that goes, I want this
 in
 any game I play.
 ---
 In God we trust!
 - Original Message - 
 From: lelia struv...@yahoo.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:14 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


 Hi all, well, lots of family and friends have the we and I am wondering
 what
 if any games or exercises or such are accessible for us?

 thanks

 lelia


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Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

2010-01-18 Thread Brice Mellen
Unless you're a pro at keeping your hand steady and in the same place
everytime memorizing the placement of the menus won't help because you might
hold the controller in a different spot the next time and that thing is
delicate like I said in another post I spent 2 hours trying to find the menu
option on the screen so I could start playing my game. Wii Sports resort is
pretty much accessible once you get in to it, cause you can arrow around the
options, just memorize where they are, you don't need any help with the
bowling really except for on the second frame of each game so some can tell
you where to move to hit your pins. Basketball on the wii resort game is all
accessible as is the frisby and sword fighting, also canoeing is fun too.
Another game you might check out, again already seaid this once, is
dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3, the menus talk and it's a 3d fighting
game, so it's fun plus you have to use the motion sensor to do their special
moves and such, all that takes is someone reading it to you a couple of
times, eventually you can play that game pretty independently with no help
whatsoever including the online play. But if you are going for completely
accessible for the most part then don't get a wii, get a ps3 or a 360 ast
your preference, personally, I prefer ps3 because in the end it has the
better processor, better graphic, better gameplay, and most importantly,
better sound. Plus the online play on ps3 is free and you have to pay for
xbox live.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 3:51 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

If you are the only person in the room, can you play the games with 
accuracy?  If not, then it is not accessible in my opinion.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list 
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


I often play Wii Sports Bowling with my sighted folks. The only thing they
have to do is tell me where to aim by telling me how many clicks to move the
D-pad in a given direction to aim. I do everything myself and my folks just
direct me. Then I play Wii Fit. My mom or dad makes the menu selectsions of
course but I do everything else.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - 
From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net
To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


 Our sighted 10 year old son enjoys having us play games on the Wii with
 him,
 but I get frustrated because with bowling, for instance, as you mentioned,
 I
 don't know which pins are still standing, and Deven has to aim for me so I
 can have a shot at knocking down the rest. We play Wii sports with him
 sometimes because it makes him happy, but I get easily frustrated playing
 games where someone has to do practically everything for me except the
 movements. So perhaps there are other Wii games more accessible for
 completely blind players. The boxing one is kind of fun because some of
 the
 sounds alert you to which player is getting their butt kicked, and once
 the
 round begins you just do your best to box all areas of your opponent's
 body.

 Rhonda

 - Original Message - 
 From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


 I've heard some game reviews about this game console that said that the
 games are accessible, only to find out that the games cannot be accurately
 played.  For example, how can you tell what pins remain standing after you
 roll your first ball in bowling?  How do you know where to aim on any
 shot?
 I don't want to guess or to have a pretty good idea.  I want to actually
 know, before I bowl, what I am aiming at, and where it is.  The same goes
 for tennis or any of the other games.  I want skill, not luck, to be the
 determining factor in how well I play.  As far as that goes, I want this
 in
 any game I play.
 ---
 In God we trust!
 - Original Message - 
 From: lelia struv...@yahoo.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:14 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


 Hi all, well, lots of family and friends have the we and I am wondering
 what
 if any games or exercises or such are accessible for us?

 thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

2010-01-18 Thread Bryan Peterson

I've never tried it but I've heard of people being able to do it.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?



If you are the only person in the room, can you play the games with
accuracy?  If not, then it is not accessible in my opinion.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


I often play Wii Sports Bowling with my sighted folks. The only thing they
have to do is tell me where to aim by telling me how many clicks to move 
the
D-pad in a given direction to aim. I do everything myself and my folks 
just
direct me. Then I play Wii Fit. My mom or dad makes the menu selectsions 
of

course but I do everything else.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of 
pizza?

Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - 
From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net

To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?



Our sighted 10 year old son enjoys having us play games on the Wii with
him,
but I get frustrated because with bowling, for instance, as you 
mentioned,

I
don't know which pins are still standing, and Deven has to aim for me so 
I

can have a shot at knocking down the rest. We play Wii sports with him
sometimes because it makes him happy, but I get easily frustrated playing
games where someone has to do practically everything for me except the
movements. So perhaps there are other Wii games more accessible for
completely blind players. The boxing one is kind of fun because some of
the
sounds alert you to which player is getting their butt kicked, and once
the
round begins you just do your best to box all areas of your opponent's
body.

Rhonda

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


I've heard some game reviews about this game console that said that the
games are accessible, only to find out that the games cannot be 
accurately
played.  For example, how can you tell what pins remain standing after 
you

roll your first ball in bowling?  How do you know where to aim on any
shot?
I don't want to guess or to have a pretty good idea.  I want to actually
know, before I bowl, what I am aiming at, and where it is.  The same goes
for tennis or any of the other games.  I want skill, not luck, to be the
determining factor in how well I play.  As far as that goes, I want this
in
any game I play.
---
In God we trust!
- Original Message - 
From: lelia struv...@yahoo.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:14 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


Hi all, well, lots of family and friends have the we and I am wondering
what
if any games or exercises or such are accessible for us?

thanks

lelia


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Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

2010-01-16 Thread Karl Belanger
Two games I have played which are accessible are Wii Sports and Punchout.
Wii Sports: The Baseball, Boxing, and Tennis can be completely accessible, and 
bowling and Golf can be done with some sighted assistance.
Punchout: The game play in this is almost completely accessible. Every 
character makes some sort of either taunt or sound effect for almost every 
attack. From an accessibility standpoint, there are only two characters who 
have some challenges. I can outline them in more detail if you want. Navigating 
the menus in any WII game can be somewhat challenging, because if it does not 
let you use the arrows, you must point at the item you want. However, there is 
usually a sound effect and a slight vibration when you are selecting something. 
Also, the menus are static so you can memorize their locations.
HTH,
Karl

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Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

2010-01-16 Thread Charles Rivard
I've heard some game reviews about this game console that said that the 
games are accessible, only to find out that the games cannot be accurately 
played.  For example, how can you tell what pins remain standing after you 
roll your first ball in bowling?  How do you know where to aim on any shot? 
I don't want to guess or to have a pretty good idea.  I want to actually 
know, before I bowl, what I am aiming at, and where it is.  The same goes 
for tennis or any of the other games.  I want skill, not luck, to be the 
determining factor in how well I play.  As far as that goes, I want this in 
any game I play.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:14 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?


Hi all, well, lots of family and friends have the we and I am wondering what
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thanks

lelia


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Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

2010-01-16 Thread Allen
The other problem with blind people playing the WII games is that one main 
idea of the WII is logging your stats, so as you get better your WII 
opponents get better.  There is no way I have found to independently log my 
stats, so to the WII'sthinking I never get better so it doesn't throw 
better and better adversaries.  I'm afraid that sooner or later my opponents 
would get too easy and less fun.


- Original Message - 
From: Karl Belanger karl.belan...@gordon.edu

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?



Two games I have played which are accessible are Wii Sports and Punchout.
Wii Sports: The Baseball, Boxing, and Tennis can be completely accessible, 
and bowling and Golf can be done with some sighted assistance.
Punchout: The game play in this is almost completely accessible. Every 
character makes some sort of either taunt or sound effect for almost every 
attack. From an accessibility standpoint, there are only two characters 
who have some challenges. I can outline them in more detail if you want. 
Navigating the menus in any WII game can be somewhat challenging, because 
if it does not let you use the arrows, you must point at the item you 
want. However, there is usually a sound effect and a slight vibration when 
you are selecting something. Also, the menus are static so you can 
memorize their locations.

HTH,
Karl

From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf 
Of lelia [struv...@yahoo.com]

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 6:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] hey what games if any are accessible with the we?

Hi all, well, lots of family and friends have the we and I am wondering 
what

if any games or exercises or such are accessible for us?

thanks

lelia


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