[gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up
What did you say was all his personal contact information? I was going to ignore him - but this changed my mind. What a %#^$*^%%$. I'll lighten up just as soon as he stops being a #...@^#%$. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Lighten UpFrom: Slugger ref...@charter.netDate: Tue, December 30, 2008 7:34 pmTo: GatorTalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.comIt appears that I have cause quite a stir in Gator Land...Yes, I am aSooner, born and raised in the land of wheat, oil wells and football.I make no apology for my heritage and I wear it proudly as all nativeOklahomans do.In just a few days two teams who have earned the right to play for theNational Championship will meet to decide who is the better team.Unlike what appears to be an abyss of Gator euphoria we Sooners knowthat it is just a game. It is played and the better team wins. Yes, wewill like you yell and scream for our team and against yours, but inthe end it is still a game. Neither you nor I can do anything aboutthe outcome. Our job is to support our team.Now I appreciate the opportunity to have joined in your group for somelight hearted bantering but now is the time to stop chastising myfriend for asking me to join your group. I would hope that if you hadjoined my Sooner group you would not have been so brazenly castigatedby the other Sooner faithful.Now lighten up all of you Gator faithful and get a life...becauseafter January 8th you will only be able to wish for what may havebeen, could have been.Go SoonersOU 48 - Florida 24 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up
LOL! Yes, of course! I forgot that. ;-) Randy - Original Message - From: A. Leon Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:54 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up You must remember, Randy, that Sooners and other plainsmen, can see a lot further than they can walk. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:45 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up Welcome, Lynn. We have had fans from other schools stop by from time to time, and for the most part, they have been respectful of the fact that this is list is as gator as it gets. A lot of us have together here since '89 ('94 for me), and we have a rep for being rabid but polite. You will never be attacked here for simply being the enemy, but it can get uncomfortable for those who come in here bashing the gators. For the record, Brian is a longtime respected member here and to my knowledge has received no chastising. He has done a great job of describing you as a great guy who only has one shortcoming, and that is that you are a sooner. ;-) We have a guy on here that is an Arkansas fan who discusses team strengths, coaching philosophies, and things like that with us in regards to his team. Are you willing to do that as well? For example, do you REALLY believe you have faced a defense like ours? We've seen your score prediction, but I'm a little confused as to how you're going to score 48 on us. I think the score will be much closer (and lower) than that, with the gators winning, of course. :-) Randy - Original Message - From: Slugger ref...@charter.net To: GatorTalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:34 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Lighten Up It appears that I have cause quite a stir in Gator Land...Yes, I am a Sooner, born and raised in the land of wheat, oil wells and football. I make no apology for my heritage and I wear it proudly as all native Oklahomans do. In just a few days two teams who have earned the right to play for the National Championship will meet to decide who is the better team. Unlike what appears to be an abyss of Gator euphoria we Sooners know that it is just a game. It is played and the better team wins. Yes, we will like you yell and scream for our team and against yours, but in the end it is still a game. Neither you nor I can do anything about the outcome. Our job is to support our team. Now I appreciate the opportunity to have joined in your group for some light hearted bantering but now is the time to stop chastising my friend for asking me to join your group. I would hope that if you had joined my Sooner group you would not have been so brazenly castigated by the other Sooner faithful. Now lighten up all of you Gator faithful and get a life...because after January 8th you will only be able to wish for what may have been, could have been. Go Sooners OU 48 - Florida 24 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Miami slice of the payout pie (Dooley)
On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Shane Ford wrote: When you play for the national championship there is a misconception that the schools participating reap a $17 million pay day. Florida is hoping to make $47,400. According to the budget approved by the University Athletic Association's board of directors last week, UF will spend $2.42 million on the game and receive $2.467 million in revenue from the SEC. The rest, as usual, goes into a pot that includes all bowl revenue and is split by the other 11 conference schools and the league office. IIRC, there are two flaws with this view. First, it ignores that there are 2 SEC teams in BCS bowls. The added revenue from the second team is far more important than whether the first team is in the MNC game or not. Second, IIRC, the split is not even steven. I think that an extra something (like 1/13th) is carved out from each bowl game/NCAA tourney and added to the annual payout of the team that went to that bowl. Perhaps this is just for NCAA tourney, but I recall reading that the annual payout from the SEC to each team was not identical, and this was the reason. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Miami slice of the payout pie (Dooley)
Maybe I missed something, but I thought that 13th share went to the SEC and not to the schools. Randy - Original Message - From: John Vega To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Miami slice of the payout pie (Dooley) On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Shane Ford wrote: When you play for the national championship there is a misconception that the schools participating reap a $17 million pay day. Florida is hoping to make $47,400. According to the budget approved by the University Athletic Association's board of directors last week, UF will spend $2.42 million on the game and receive $2.467 million in revenue from the SEC. The rest, as usual, goes into a pot that includes all bowl revenue and is split by the other 11 conference schools and the league office. IIRC, there are two flaws with this view. First, it ignores that there are 2 SEC teams in BCS bowls. The added revenue from the second team is far more important than whether the first team is in the MNC game or not. Second, IIRC, the split is not even steven. I think that an extra something (like 1/13th) is carved out from each bowl game/NCAA tourney and added to the annual payout of the team that went to that bowl. Perhaps this is just for NCAA tourney, but I recall reading that the annual payout from the SEC to each team was not identical, and this was the reason. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Miami slice of the payout pie (Dooley)
IIRC - the 1/13th split is for each team and the conference office. Each team going to a bowl gets allocated money for travel expenses, but with UF going to Miami, that is not as large as it was for going to Glendale. Ken K. MNGator _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:01 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Miami slice of the payout pie (Dooley) On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Shane Ford wrote: When you play for the national championship there is a misconception that the schools participating reap a $17 million pay day. Florida is hoping to make $47,400. According to the budget approved by the University Athletic Association's board of directors last week, UF will spend $2.42 million on the game and receive $2.467 million in revenue from the SEC. The rest, as usual, goes into a pot that includes all bowl revenue and is split by the other 11 conference schools and the league office. IIRC, there are two flaws with this view. First, it ignores that there are 2 SEC teams in BCS bowls. The added revenue from the second team is far more important than whether the first team is in the MNC game or not. Second, IIRC, the split is not even steven. I think that an extra something (like 1/13th) is carved out from each bowl game/NCAA tourney and added to the annual payout of the team that went to that bowl. Perhaps this is just for NCAA tourney, but I recall reading that the annual payout from the SEC to each team was not identical, and this was the reason. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Alltel Invites Fans to Vote in the College Football Championship Ring Tone Contest
Alltel Invites Fans to Vote in the College Football "Championship Ring Tone Contest"Little Rock, Ark. - Wednesday December 31, 2008 Great plays on the football field deserve great cheers from the stands, and now they deserve their own ring tones. Alltel Wireless, America’s largest network, is giving college football fans the chance to download their favorite play in the Alltel “Championship Ring Tone Contest,” which features audio clips from both Alltel-sponsored college football national championship contenders – the University of Oklahoma Sooners and the University of Florida Gators.Starting today through January 8, fans can visit alltelfootball.com to listen to the “Championship Ring Tone Contest” selections and text their choice to 334455. Finalists include:Oklahoma SoonersMarshall’s pick for 6 vs. Texas A M Text OU1 to 334455Super Ray deflects Texas pass in 2001 Text OU2 to 334455Griffin championship-stealing TD vs. Florida State Text OU3 to 334455 Florida GatorsJackson TD vs. Florida State wins national championship Text UF1 to 334455Doering’s got a touchdown vs. Kentucky Text UF2 to 334455Wuerffel toss wins conference championship over Alabama Text UF3 to 334455After making their selection, fans will automatically receive a free ring tone with the audio clip for which they voted. The school with the most fan downloads will win a $10,000 donation to its general scholarship fund courtesy of Alltel Wireless. For more information or to preview each audio clip, fans can visit alltelfootball.com“Throughout the years, fans of OU and Florida have enjoyed many unforgettable moments,” said Samira Zebian, director of sponsorship marketing at Alltel Wireless. “This friendly head-to-head competition gives fans a chance to show their spirit and help their school win a $10,000 donation from Alltel.”Alltel Wireless continues to provide choice and flexibility to the customer’s wireless experience with its exclusive “My Circle” feature, giving customers unlimited, free calling to and from any five, 10 or 20 numbers on any network. Alltel Wireless was also the first to offer Anytime Plan Changes, giving customers the flexibility to change their calling plans at any time, without extending their current contract.Alltel is owner and operator of the nation’s largest wireless network and has nearly 14 million customers. For more information about Alltel, please visit www.alltel.com.GatorZone.com© 2008 University Athletic Association, Inc.
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
That's just another reason the best recruits in the state are coming to UF now instead of f$U or Miami. Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 oba...@haloprop.com office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:12 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:05 AM, JunoGator wrote: Weiner -- who has led Plant to two of the past three state Class 4A football titles, including this year's -- described Shannon's treatment of Marve as ''egregious'' and said Shannon's insistence that Marve cannot transfer to an ACC, SEC or Florida-based school ``is the last line in a series of slaps in the face. It's . . . spitefulness and vengeance.'' Didn't we let Brock transfer to Miami? Wasn't he just as decorated of a recruit as Marve? The prohibition of any SEC team (no LSU, not Tennessee) strikes me as spiteful as well. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.jpg
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Five plays define Georgia's season
We could probably pick one play in the Miss game to change - and we would be undefeated. BUt life does not work like that. The sooner Georgia realizes that - the sooner they will become winners and not losers. Original Message Subject: [gatornews] Five plays define Georgia's seasonFrom: "Oliver Barry" oba...@haloprop.comDate: Wed, December 31, 2008 10:07 amTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Five plays that defined Georgia’s season By CHIP TOWERS The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Tuesday, December 30, 2008 Five plays that have defined Georgia’s season, as the Bulldogs prepare to play Michigan State in the Capital One bowl on Thursday in Orlando: Defense saves the day It’s easy to forget more than three months later that without the opportunistic play of Georgia’s defense — and linebacker Rennie Curran in particular — the Bulldogs may have lost their SEC opener. Georgia clung to a seven-point lead midway through the fourth quarter when South Carolina lined up at the Bulldogs’ 2 and pitched the ball to tailback Mike Davis around left end. Curran shot in from his weakside position and met Davis in midair as he tried to leap over a pile of players. Curran’s hit jarred the football loose and it rolled into the Georgia end zone where Asher Allen pounced on it. “It looked like a beach ball, a big beach ball covered in gold and diamonds, ” Allen said. “As soon as I saw the ball come out, I knew we had to have it.” Said coach Mark Richt: “That play by Rennie was huge. That was as big as any play we made all year.” Penalties make impact Georgia’s defensive bliss was short-lived because it ended two weeks later against Alabama. It was in Game 5 that penalties, an annoyance until then, became an issue that has dogged the Bulldogs for the rest of the season. The Crimson Tide outscored Georgia 31-0 in the first half. But no one can be certain how a Bulldogs’ takeaway on Alabama’s opening drive might have altered the game had it not been nullified by penalty. “You really don’t know,” Richt sighed. “Every once in a while those early plays can change the entire momentum of a game.” The play is often remembered by Akeem Dent. Blitzing on a screen pass, he was assessed a personal foul for hitting quarterback John Parker Wilson in the face. The call nullified a fumble recovery. The Tide scored two plays later to take a 7-0 lead. It was one of seven penalties against Georgia, including another 15-yarder on that opening drive. “I think about it all the time,” said Dent, who still believes it was a bad call by the officials. “You never know how the game would have went if we had gotten possession right there. We go down and score there the game probably would have been a lot different.” But, as Dent added, “It is what it is now.” Momentous turnaround When a game is lost by nearly six touchdowns it’s hard to imagine one play making a difference. But Georgia-Florida was still close in the third quarter before the tide turned. Georgia had driven from its 2 to the Gators’ 29 when the game-defining moment occurred. Quarterback Matthew Stafford, trying to hit an open A.J. Green on a deep flag pattern, came up woefully short. Florida’s Joe Haden intercepted and returned it 88 yards before being run out at Georgia’s 1 by Mohamed Massaquoi. The Gators scored on the next play to extend their lead to 21-3. The Bulldogs committed three more turnovers on their next four possessions and the rout was on. Stafford, who threw three interceptions, called that pass his worst of the season. “That kind of put us in a hole,” Stafford said. “We were down 21-3 instead of, at worst, being down 14-6 if we kick a field goal in that situation. So that’s the worst of the year.” Dobbs saves the day While other coaches are getting raises and contract extensions after 9-3 seasons, few toasts are being raised in Athens. But imagine how ugly it might be had Demarcus Dobbs not come up with a last-minute interception against Kentucky. The Wildcats, trailing by four, had driven 50 yards in less than a minute and had a first down at Georgia’s 13 when Dobbs made the defensive play of the season. The defensive end leapt and intercepted with one hand a screen pass from Kentucky’s Randall Cobb with 46 seconds remaining. If Dobbs doesn’t make that play the Bulldogs probably aren’t in Orlando this week. “Yeah, sometimes you think about that,” Dobbs said. “But it’s a team game and a lot of things have to happen to make an interception.” Dobbs’ play was preceded by another play of the year. Stafford hit A.J. Green on the back line of the end zone with a high pass under a heavy rush that ended up being the game-winner with 1:54 to play. Stafford called that his best pass of the year. “That was kind of to win the game,” he said. “Obviously our defense had to make a stop to finalize it, but that put us ahead.” Flood gates open Georgia gave up 409 yards rushing to Georgia Tech and that’s why it lost. But the point when the Bulldogs lost control came on
[gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up
I seem to recall in the popular Dale Carnegie book, How to Win Friends and Influence People, there is an entire section on how the best way to repair a poor first impression is to be arrogant and condescending in your second attempt. Way to go! If you had come into my home and insulted me, then responded to my objection by telling me to lighten up and get a life, you would have received a much less restrained response than you’ve gotten here. Well, this is our Gator sports home. It’s where a group of Gator friends come to talk about Gator sports without having to debate fans of other teams or be told that we are enjoying ourselves too much. It’s where we don’t have to be completely reasonable in our criticism of our rivals or completely objective in our support for the Gators. Win or lose, we make no apologies for being passionate. If you are not a Gator, then you are our guest here and we expect our guests to conduct themselves well. Since you broke the rules that you had just agreed to with your very first message, I think ‘I apologize’ would have gone over much better than ‘get a life’. I respectfully suggest that the Swamp Gas forum at gatorcountry.com would be a better place for you to bait Gator fans before the game. This bridge may not be completely burned, but it’s charred and may not be worth repairing. Rob Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Lighten Up From: Slugger ref...@charter.net Date: Tue, December 30, 2008 7:34 pm To: GatorTalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com It appears that I have cause quite a stir in Gator Land...Yes, I am a Sooner, born and raised in the land of wheat, oil wells and football. I make no apology for my heritage and I wear it proudly as all native Oklahomans do. In just a few days two teams who have earned the right to play for the National Championship will meet to decide who is the better team. Unlike what appears to be an abyss of Gator euphoria we Sooners know that it is just a game. It is played and the better team wins. Yes, we will like you yell and scream for our team and against yours, but in the end it is still a game. Neither you nor I can do anything about the outcome. Our job is to support our team. Now I appreciate the opportunity to have joined in your group for some light hearted bantering but now is the time to stop chastising my friend for asking me to join your group. I would hope that if you had joined my Sooner group you would not have been so brazenly castigated by the other Sooner faithful. Now lighten up all of you Gator faithful and get a life...because after January 8th you will only be able to wish for what may have been, could have been. Go Sooners OU 48 - Florida 24 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
I agree. While I'm not sure I want him at UF (When he said, I'll always be a 'Cane, it left a bad taste in my mouth), I still feel that he should be able to transfer anywhere that will accept him. Personally, I wasn't impressed with him during our game with the scUM or any other time I've watched him play. Randy - Original Message - From: John Vega To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:05 AM, JunoGator wrote: Weiner -- who has led Plant to two of the past three state Class 4A football titles, including this year's -- described Shannon's treatment of Marve as ''egregious'' and said Shannon's insistence that Marve cannot transfer to an ACC, SEC or Florida-based school ``is the last line in a series of slaps in the face. It's . . . spitefulness and vengeance.'' Didn't we let Brock transfer to Miami? Wasn't he just as decorated of a recruit as Marve? The prohibition of any SEC team (no LSU, not Tennessee) strikes me as spiteful as well. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
Yeah, I have to say that I really don't want Marve at Florida, but this seems way over the top. Shannon is basically banishing the kid from playing at any major school in the Southeast or mid-Atlantic part of the country. This isn't about not wanting to see him on the other sideline in future games, it's about punishing him for whatever it is that has caused this rift in the first place. How could it possibly hurt Miami to let him go to, say, Tennessee or LSU? I didn't like that Brock was going to play against us after transferring to Miami, but I respected our coaches for letting him go wherever he thought he had the best chance to be successful. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:12 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:05 AM, JunoGator wrote: Weiner -- who has led Plant to two of the past three state Class 4A football titles, including this year's -- described Shannon's treatment of Marve as ''egregious'' and said Shannon's insistence that Marve cannot transfer to an ACC, SEC or Florida-based school ``is the last line in a series of slaps in the face. It's . . . spitefulness and vengeance.'' Didn't we let Brock transfer to Miami? Wasn't he just as decorated of a recruit as Marve? The prohibition of any SEC team (no LSU, not Tennessee) strikes me as spiteful as well. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up
Happy New Year to you, too, but you haven't answered my question about our defense. Do you REALLY believe you'll score 48 on us or was that just saber rattling? Randy - Original Message - From: B. Lynn Benedict ref...@charter.net To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up My apology to the entire Gator World for being arrogant and condescending. Have a Happy New Years. Slugger. -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of NZ Gator Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:32 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up I seem to recall in the popular Dale Carnegie book, How to Win Friends and Influence People, there is an entire section on how the best way to repair a poor first impression is to be arrogant and condescending in your second attempt. Way to go! If you had come into my home and insulted me, then responded to my objection by telling me to lighten up and get a life, you would have received a much less restrained response than you've gotten here. Well, this is our Gator sports home. It's where a group of Gator friends come to talk about Gator sports without having to debate fans of other teams or be told that we are enjoying ourselves too much. It's where we don't have to be completely reasonable in our criticism of our rivals or completely objective in our support for the Gators. Win or lose, we make no apologies for being passionate. If you are not a Gator, then you are our guest here and we expect our guests to conduct themselves well. Since you broke the rules that you had just agreed to with your very first message, I think 'I apologize' would have gone over much better than 'get a life'. I respectfully suggest that the Swamp Gas forum at gatorcountry.com would be a better place for you to bait Gator fans before the game. This bridge may not be completely burned, but it's charred and may not be worth repairing. Rob Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Lighten Up From: Slugger ref...@charter.net Date: Tue, December 30, 2008 7:34 pm To: GatorTalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com It appears that I have cause quite a stir in Gator Land...Yes, I am a Sooner, born and raised in the land of wheat, oil wells and football. I make no apology for my heritage and I wear it proudly as all native Oklahomans do. In just a few days two teams who have earned the right to play for the National Championship will meet to decide who is the better team. Unlike what appears to be an abyss of Gator euphoria we Sooners know that it is just a game. It is played and the better team wins. Yes, we will like you yell and scream for our team and against yours, but in the end it is still a game. Neither you nor I can do anything about the outcome. Our job is to support our team. Now I appreciate the opportunity to have joined in your group for some light hearted bantering but now is the time to stop chastising my friend for asking me to join your group. I would hope that if you had joined my Sooner group you would not have been so brazenly castigated by the other Sooner faithful. Now lighten up all of you Gator faithful and get a life...because after January 8th you will only be able to wish for what may have been, could have been. Go Sooners OU 48 - Florida 24 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---