[gatortalk] Re: FW: [gatornews] [DailyLobo.com] Tim Tebow, America's sweetheart
I read it the second time...and I asked the same question to myself now *:-( * On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com wrote: The Daily Lobo? Badman, where ever did you find this? And, just who is Damian Garde? J Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 -- *From:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *dbadr...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2009 2:26 PM *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [gatornews] [DailyLobo.com] Tim Tebow, America’s sweetheart * * *[image: Daily Lobo] http://www.dailylobo.com/index.php/* *Tim Tebow, America’s sweetheart* By Damian Garde http://index.php/search/?a=1au=Damian+Garde | DAILY LOBO Tim Tebow is a remarkably detestable football player. There’s the endless media fawning, the squeaky-clean image, the dumbfounding Heisman acceptance speech and, of course, the God complex. Tebow, the bruising, gee-golly face of college football, is the ambassador from a world of early bedtimes and rubber wristbands. After winning two national titles quarterbacking the Florida Gators, Tebow became the proselytizing poster child for everything annoying about his sport. On the field, he’s a bizarrely upright, unstoppable rusher, and he’s averaged 31 touchdowns through the air in the past two seasons. He’s equal parts Joe Namath, Joe Jonas and Jimmy Swaggart. In short, he’s the bro messiah. So, on Saturday, when the Chosen One took a nasty shot, clanked his head on the way down and lay motionless on the field, I should have felt some tinge of schadenfreude. But I didn’t. Hard as I try, I just can’t bring myself to hate Tim Tebow. On the one hand, listening to Tebow is a bit like driving behind a Hummer: maddening, uncomfortable and ideologically offensive in a way you can’t quite put your finger on. But on the other hand, you can’t blame the sun for rising. To most people, a postgame interview might not seem like the proper place to explain that God has a plan for everyone and that your motivation in throwing footballs at people is to get to heaven. But for Tebow, a man who was raised by missionaries and spends his spring breaks spreading the Gospel to Third-World kids, a career in football is just an extension of the family business. Furthermore, the guy’s entire biography reads like a parable. While his mother was pregnant with him, she came down with amoebic dysentery while out building mud huts in the Philippines. Her doctor recommended she terminate the pregnancy, because having a child would put her life at risk. But she, of course, refused, bringing into the world a brutal football force, smashing fellow human beings on Saturday and getting up for church on Sunday. That story, along with other tearful testimonials of Tebow’s general blessedness, is just a glimpse at the culture in which he was raised. If you were told your entire life that you were a walking miracle, wouldn’t you start to believe it at some point? And as much as Tebow rarely passes up an opportunity to plug the Book of John, it’s hard to tell which came first: Tebow’s postgame preaching or the sports world’s fascination with his divinity. Would a reporter ask Colt McCoy if he was saving himself for marriage? Would ESPN speculate that Jacory Harris asked Jesus for some downfield blocking? Tebow fields all manners of nonsensical questions and, in a sense, his willingness to bind faith and football for his interviewers is kind of endearing. As tempting as it is to snicker when Tebow explains that Jesus “already tweeted enough; we just have to look at it,” there’s no pretense to his madcap preaching. The guy’s just doing what he knows: saving souls and winning football games. You can’t hate an athlete for being honest with himself. So, when Tebow gets to the NFL and turns every postgame presser into a revival, it won’t bother me. Unless he gets drafted by the Cowboys. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: FW: [gatornews] [DailyLobo.com] Tim Tebow, America's sweetheart
The Daily Lobo is the student newspaper for University of New Mexico. Damian seems to be a student writer that's facinater with Tim too. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2009, at 6:11 AM, dbadr...@gmail.com dbadr...@gmail.com wrote: I read it the second time...and I asked the same question to myself now :-( On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com wrote: The Daily Lobo? Badman, where ever did you find this? And, just who is Damian Garde? J Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dbadr...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:26 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] [DailyLobo.com] Tim Tebow, America’s sweetheart Tim Tebow, America’s sweetheart By Damian Garde | DAILY LOBO Tim Tebow is a remarkably detestable football player. There’s the endless media fawning, the squeaky-clean image, the dumb founding Heisman acceptance speech and, of course, the God complex. Tebow, the bruising, gee-golly face of college football, is the ambassador from a world of early bedtimes and rubber wristbands. After winning two national titles quarterbacking the Florida Gators, Tebow became the proselytizing poster child for everything annoying about his sport. On the field, he’s a bizarrely upright, unstoppable rusher, and he’s averaged 31 touchdowns through the air in the past two seasons. He’s equal parts Joe Namath, Joe Jonas and Jimmy Swaggart. In short, he’s the bro messiah. So, on Saturday, when the Chosen One took a nasty shot, clanked his head on the way down and lay motionless on the field, I should have felt some tinge of schadenfreude. But I didn’t. Hard as I try, I just can’t bring myself to hate Tim Tebow. On the one hand, listening to Tebow is a bit like driving behind a Hummer: maddening, uncomfortable and ideologically offensive in a way you can’t quite put your finger on. But on the other hand, you c an’t blame the sun for rising. To most people, a postgame interview might not seem like the proper place to explain that God has a plan for everyone and that your motivation in throwing footballs at people is to get to heaven. But for Tebow, a man who was raised by missionaries and spends his spring breaks spreading the Gospel to Third-World kids, a career in football is just an extension of the family business. Furthermore, the guy’s entire biography reads like a parable. While his mother was pregnant with him, she came down with amoebic dysente ry while out building mud huts in the Philippines. Her doctor recomm ended she terminate the pregnancy, because having a child would put her life at risk. But she, of course, refused, bringing into the wor ld a brutal football force, smashing fellow human beings on Saturday and getting up for church on Sunday. That story, along with other tearful testimonials of Tebow’s general blessedness, is just a glimpse at the culture in which he was raise d. If you were told your entire life that you were a walking miracle , wouldn’t you start to believe it at some point? And as much as Tebow rarely passes up an opportunity to plug the Book of John, it’s hard to tell which came first: Tebow’s postgame preaching or the sports world’s fascination with his divini ty. Would a reporter ask Colt McCoy if he was saving himself for marriage? Would ESPN speculate that Jacory Harris asked Jesus for some downfield blocking? Tebow fields all manners of nonsensical questions and, in a sense, his willingness to bind faith and football for his interviewers is kind of endearing. As tempting as it is to snicker when Tebow explains that Jesus “alre ady tweeted enough; we just have to look at it,” there’s no pretense to his madcap preaching. The guy’s just doing what he knows : saving souls and winning football games. You can’t hate an athlete for being honest with himself. So, when Tebow gets to the NFL and turns every postgame presser into a revival, it won’t bother me. Unless he gets drafted by the Cowboy s. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] UF Today
My son Aaron and I are pictured with Coach Meyer on the It's Gator Time page of the most recent edition of the UF Today Alumni magazine. The photo was from the Central Florida Gator Club Gathering in downtown Orlando in the spring. Tracy Tracy R. Gill tra...@gatorzone.com - Msg sent via Spiderhost - http://www.spiderhost.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Pick 'em results
Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com John and Oz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results
I ONLY GOT 4 PICKS RIGHT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! (grumble) On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com John and Oz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Pick 'em results
Woo-hoo! I got 40% right this week! I can feel a turnaround in the offing. Of course, now that I have some momentum (or is that voodoo?) we're taking a week off. Back to the lumberyard! --- On Tue, 9/29/09, John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com John and Oz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Pick 'em results
I got 47%but it's very interesting to note that if one had picked *Underdogs *or *Away Teams* *all* the time, they would have been in the top 3...* Favorites* got spanked nicely every week!!! On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.comwrote: Woo-hoo! I got 40% right this week! I can feel a turnaround in the offing. Of course, now that I have some momentum (or is that voodoo?) we're taking a week off. Back to the lumberyard! --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com* wrote: Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com John and Oz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit
I agree with you that the play calling can be questioned since like you said, that play was going to end up with somebody in TT's face no matter what. But I am still not sold that it was just too too late to have TT in the game still. I think it's borderline... On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: That was the dude! Strange Kresser facts - He played briefly in the NFL and threw for a TD for the Bengals He threw for the 2nd longest TD pass in Florida history - without peeking who knows the longest? He held the record for the most passing yards in a game by a Junior in UF history (I'm trying to see if TRex broke the record) My point was that I don't see a dramatic drop-off in ability between the two players: One needs experience The other has the flu and needed two IV bags before the game just to take the field In that context, I thought that pulling TT earlier than normal was the right call, especially the way that he ended the first quarter with such a flourish. -Zeb On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: I remember him doing that one time - in the middle of Wuerffel's senior season when we played Northern Illinois or some other directional school, so that Eric Kresser could play. I don't recall Kresser ever being inserted into an SEC game - especially on the road, any earlier than the fourth quarter, and I seem to recall some scorelines from that era that make Saturday's 31-7 look downright close. --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Zeb* wrote: remember the games when SOS would sit Wuerffel for the whole game to give his backup meaningful playing time? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit
You're gonna get a nice hard hit like that in a game. You can't foresee the knee coming, no matter what. It was a freak play. I hope Brantley really comes along this week in practice. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dbadr...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:53 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit I agree with you that the play calling can be questioned since like you said, that play was going to end up with somebody in TT's face no matter what. But I am still not sold that it was just too too late to have TT in the game still. I think it's borderline... On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: That was the dude! Strange Kresser facts - He played briefly in the NFL and threw for a TD for the Bengals He threw for the 2nd longest TD pass in Florida history - without peeking who knows the longest? He held the record for the most passing yards in a game by a Junior in UF history (I'm trying to see if TRex broke the record) My point was that I don't see a dramatic drop-off in ability between the two players: One needs experience The other has the flu and needed two IV bags before the game just to take the field In that context, I thought that pulling TT earlier than normal was the right call, especially the way that he ended the first quarter with such a flourish. -Zeb On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: I remember him doing that one time - in the middle of Wuerffel's senior season when we played Northern Illinois or some other directional school, so that Eric Kresser could play. I don't recall Kresser ever being inserted into an SEC game - especially on the road, any earlier than the fourth quarter, and I seem to recall some scorelines from that era that make Saturday's 31-7 look downright close. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Zeb wrote: remember the games when SOS would sit Wuerffel for the whole game to give his backup meaningful playing time? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit
rough game to be getting his first start in if he's not prepared. lol Woody On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.comwrote: *You’re gonna get a nice hard hit like that in a game. You can’t foresee the knee coming, no matter what. It was a freak play. I hope Brantley really comes along this week in practice.* * * *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *dbadr...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:53 PM *To:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit I agree with you that the play calling can be questioned since like you said, that play was going to end up with somebody in TT's face no matter what. But I am still not sold that it was just too too late to have TT in the game still. I think it's borderline... On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: That was the dude! Strange Kresser facts - He played briefly in the NFL and threw for a TD for the Bengals He threw for the 2nd longest TD pass in Florida history - without peeking who knows the longest? He held the record for the most passing yards in a game by a Junior in UF history (I'm trying to see if TRex broke the record) My point was that I don't see a dramatic drop-off in ability between the two players: One needs experience The other has the flu and needed two IV bags before the game just to take the field In that context, I thought that pulling TT earlier than normal was the right call, especially the way that he ended the first quarter with such a flourish. -Zeb On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: I remember him doing that one time - in the middle of Wuerffel's senior season when we played Northern Illinois or some other directional school, so that Eric Kresser could play. I don't recall Kresser ever being inserted into an SEC game - especially on the road, any earlier than the fourth quarter, and I seem to recall some scorelines from that era that make Saturday's 31-7 look downright close. --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Zeb* wrote: remember the games when SOS would sit Wuerffel for the whole game to give his backup meaningful playing time? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results
That makes me feel better about my 5 right. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Woody To: Gatortalk Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results I ONLY GOT 4 PICKS RIGHT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! (grumble) On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com John and Oz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit
That read like a very nervous laugh, Woody, but maybe I was just projecting my own jitters. Cee - Original Message - From: Woody To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit rough game to be getting his first start in if he's not prepared. lol Woody On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com wrote: You’re gonna get a nice hard hit like that in a game. You can’t foresee the knee coming, no matter what. It was a freak play. I hope Brantley really comes along this week in practice. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dbadr...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:53 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit I agree with you that the play calling can be questioned since like you said, that play was going to end up with somebody in TT's face no matter what. But I am still not sold that it was just too too late to have TT in the game still. I think it's borderline... On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: That was the dude! Strange Kresser facts - He played briefly in the NFL and threw for a TD for the Bengals He threw for the 2nd longest TD pass in Florida history - without peeking who knows the longest? He held the record for the most passing yards in a game by a Junior in UF history (I'm trying to see if TRex broke the record) My point was that I don't see a dramatic drop-off in ability between the two players: One needs experience The other has the flu and needed two IV bags before the game just to take the field In that context, I thought that pulling TT earlier than normal was the right call, especially the way that he ended the first quarter with such a flourish. -Zeb On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: I remember him doing that one time - in the middle of Wuerffel's senior season when we played Northern Illinois or some other directional school, so that Eric Kresser could play. I don't recall Kresser ever being inserted into an SEC game - especially on the road, any earlier than the fourth quarter, and I seem to recall some scorelines from that era that make Saturday's 31-7 look downright close. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Zeb wrote: remember the games when SOS would sit Wuerffel for the whole game to give his backup meaningful playing time? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results
4 correct here...just call me Mr. Vegas From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results That makes me feel better about my 5 right. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Woody mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com To: Gatortalk mailto:Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results I ONLY GOT 4 PICKS RIGHT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! (grumble) On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com http://pickem.g8r.com/ John and Oz BRBR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit
Would it be likely that he was still in the game to boost his stats for the possibility of another Heisman? On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, dbadr...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you that the play calling can be questioned since like you said, that play was going to end up with somebody in TT's face no matter what. But I am still not sold that it was just too too late to have TT in the game still. I think it's borderline... On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: That was the dude! Strange Kresser facts - He played briefly in the NFL and threw for a TD for the Bengals He threw for the 2nd longest TD pass in Florida history - without peeking who knows the longest? He held the record for the most passing yards in a game by a Junior in UF history (I'm trying to see if TRex broke the record) My point was that I don't see a dramatic drop-off in ability between the two players: One needs experience The other has the flu and needed two IV bags before the game just to take the field In that context, I thought that pulling TT earlier than normal was the right call, especially the way that he ended the first quarter with such a flourish. -Zeb On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: I remember him doing that one time - in the middle of Wuerffel's senior season when we played Northern Illinois or some other directional school, so that Eric Kresser could play. I don't recall Kresser ever being inserted into an SEC game - especially on the road, any earlier than the fourth quarter, and I seem to recall some scorelines from that era that make Saturday's 31-7 look downright close. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Zeb wrote: remember the games when SOS would sit Wuerffel for the whole game to give his backup meaningful playing time? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
Knowing that Tebow is not going to tell coach Meyer (and perhaps others) that he is hurt Knowing how serious concussions can be and the only "cure" is to rest Do you hold Tebow out of the LSU game to make sure his brain recovers or leave it up to what Tebow is telling doctors? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
Kids that age - don't think about the future. They think they are indestructible. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?From: ken...@earthlink.netDate: Tue, September 29, 2009 2:04 pmTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comGood question.Tebow will always choose to play, and I think he feels he has a score to settle in Baton Rouge.I think you simply tell Tim that he has to be totally truthful with the doctors, that he knows there is much more to life than one football game, and that his health is much more important.Then trust him.Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:42:59 -0700To: gatortalk googlegroupsGatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatortalk] Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? Knowing that Tebow is not going to tell coach Meyer (and perhaps others) that he is hurt Knowing how serious concussions can be and the only "cure" is to rest Do you hold Tebow out of the LSU game to make sure his brain recovers or leave it up to what Tebow is telling doctors? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: TT
One more point about the hit on Tebow. After the crowd finally got quiet and the trainers, etc went out to work on him, the players from both teams went out on the field and stood watching as Tebow was getting back into Lexington. It was really impressive that everyone on the field had that much respect for him. After the game I listened to the Rich Brooks interview. He was also very concerned about Tim and had checked with Urban on him before going to the locker room. One last thing. After the Rich Brooks interview, I stopped and was getting gas at a Thornton's in Lexington after the game. A couple of potential DUIs drove past and one stuck his head out the window and shouted, Hey, Tebow's dead. I just heard it on the radio. After their 23rd loss to us in a row, I have to admit, it was pretty funny. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Fletcher Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:14 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: TT Ken- I was at the game... there was definitely some cheering by the UK fans after Tebow was hit -- I was disgusted. I think after people realized it was serious the crowd silenced for a bit, and then the Gator section started chanting Lets Go Tebow... and erupted when he finally sat up. Definitely some tense moments there... -Sean On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:34 PM, Ken Kirkley wrote: No blame on the coaches for this. It was a freak injury that could have happened at any time. You have our first road game after a lackluster game, the team needed to continue to improve. Maybe the coaches didn't like some of the reads Tim was making or maybe Tim and his competitive desire demanded to be in the game. I put no blame on the coaches for this. I do have a cople of questions though. After Tim was down, on TV they showed the KY player dancing around like he had just been named homecoming queen - why no penalty? Also, the Miami Herald article stated that the whole stadium was chanting Lets go Tebow as he was down. On TV, and I watched it again this morning, it sure didn't sound like that - instead sounded like they were cheering the fact he was down. Did anybody else catch that? Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 4:59 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: TT It could have happened in the first quarter, but it didn't. It happened with under four minutes in the third quarter, and a 31 - 7 lead. I saw no need for him to still be in the game at that point, particularly since he had been sick before the game. Same for Spikes, with his achilles problem. Certainly, there is a risk of injury on every snap, so once the game is in hand, you weigh the benefit of having him in versus the potential cost. With him in and 18:57 left in the game, we could have beaten Kentucky by 38 or more. Without him, we beat them by less. Is it worth it? I don't think so. Particularly, as Darlene pointed out, that was a perfect opportunity to get Brantley some quality snaps in an SEC road game. Meyer supposedly studies statistics and is very analytical. So the question remains: is it worth the potential risk? I didn't think so before the injury, and still don't. Go Gators Get Well Tim Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: dbadr...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:40:07 -0400 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: TT Yep...very well said! Now...to all the second-guessers who think he shouldn't have played in the second half..in Coach Meyer's, it's silly, nonsense. This injury could have happened in the first quarter itself. Lets keep praying for Tim! -BadMan On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well said. I have to say, as a mom, it brought tears to my eyes to see his parents standing there. I can imagine what was going through his mama's head. Cee - Original Message - From: 03GatorMom lauries...@gmail.com To: GatorTalk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: [gatortalk] TT It hurt so much to see Tim laying on the ground like that in yesterday's game. To see him put himself physically into a game week after week the way he does is amazing, and inspiring. As a quarterback he could so easily hand off or throw the ball and just slip into the background while the play continues. I have yet to see him do this. He continues to run, tackle, hit - whatever he can do to make a play happen even after it is out of his hands! What happened in the Kentucky game was bound to happen sooner or
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
Which means that LSU has to play Georgia and then prepare for a Tebow offense and a Brantley offense BINGO! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
On Sep 29, 2009, at 1:42 PM, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Do you hold Tebow out of the LSU game to make sure his brain recovers or leave it up to what Tebow is telling doctors? I hold him out. As Jay has said, hard hits will always happen in the game of football. A question not asked Dr. Cantu was how much more likely it is to have another concussion after having had a severe concussion. Another not asked was whether the severity of a concussion is increased by virtue of having had one two weeks earlier. My understanding is that the likelihood of another concussion is about the same, but the risk that a second concussion would be much more severe (career-ending/death) is elevated. If this were an average high school player, he'd be held out about a month. I can't let the fact that he is Tim Tebow override that, given the consequences of guessing wrong. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
Problem is - I am not a medical doctor. I would bevery conservative. If it means we lose games - but Tebow recovers more fully - I have no problem with that. Tebow is too special of a person to rush back into football and risk problems later on. What I would do is to get at least twoor three expert doctorsopinions. And probably go with the most conservative opinion. Have his family involved in the decision. I guess my point is - take the decision away from Tim himself. I am afraid Tim would rush things. If you consult 3 doctors that are experts on sports concussions and they all three agree that Tim can play at LSU -and Tim wants to - then I'd let him play. But if one doctor outof the three suggests holding him out - I would probably hold him out. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.comDate: Tue, September 29, 2009 2:26 pmTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com So what do you suggest?Not trying to give you a hard time, but how do you think it should be handled?If you don't believe him when he says he's OK and he always says that, do you just retire his jersey right now?Do you make him answer all questions with his hand on a bible?Do you ask the medical staff what their opinion is?Or is there some other way that hasn't occurred to me yet?--- On Tue, 9/29/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: We know that tebow keeps telling Meyer he is okay and we find out there were major injuries later. How do you know if Tebow is being 100% truthful with doctors and not just telling them what they want to hear? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
Problem is - I am not a medical doctor. You didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Then why am I talking to you? :) I would be very conservative. If it means we lose games - but Tebow recovers more fully - I have no problem with that. Tebow is too special of a person to rush back into football and risk problems later on. I agree. But...football is a violent game. Injuries are a part of it,and they happen a lot. The world is full of Monday morning quarterbacks with 20/20 hindsight. If Tim suffers any head injuries going forward, we'll hear that we weren't careful enough with this one. On the other hand, Scot Brantley lost his senior season at UF because a doctor told him that he could never play again after suffering a concussion, yet he went on to play in the NFL for ten years or so, with no apparent related health problems. What I would do is to get at least two or three expert doctors opinions. And probably go with the most conservative opinion. That may be what Scot did. Have his family involved in the decision. Hell yes - in my opinion it *IS* their decision. I guess my point is - take the decision away from Tim himself. I am afraid Tim would rush things. He's a man. He should be given as many facts as possible, including a long look at the most cautious diagnosis. I don't think he'd be a happy camper if he found out months or years later that he could have finished his college playing career, but had it cut short the way SB did. If you consult 3 doctors that are experts on sports concussions and they all three agree that Tim can play at LSU - and Tim wants to - then I'd let him play. But if one doctor out of the three suggests holding him out - I would probably hold him out. As long as the dissenting doc doesn't have a degree from LSU... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
Agreed, agreed and agreed. Cee - Original Message - From: Steve McKibben To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? I hope the medical staff at UF has more involved tests than how are you feeling Timmy? I think that if the doctors clear him to play, he will. And I don't think anyone outside of the program will know whether or not he's playing until right before kickoff. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wro Knowing that Tebow is not going to tell coach Meyer (and perhaps others) that he is hurt Knowing how serious concussions can be and the only cure is to rest Do you hold Tebow out of the LSU game to make sure his brain recovers or leave it up to what Tebow is telling doctors? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
I was JUST about to post: ASK HIS MAMA what she thinks! ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: ke...@baldwinnc.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? Problem is - I am not a medical doctor. I would be very conservative. If it means we lose games - but Tebow recovers more fully - I have no problem with that. Tebow is too special of a person to rush back into football and risk problems later on. What I would do is to get at least two or three expert doctors opinions. And probably go with the most conservative opinion. Have his family involved in the decision. I guess my point is - take the decision away from Tim himself. I am afraid Tim would rush things. If you consult 3 doctors that are experts on sports concussions and they all three agree that Tim can play at LSU - and Tim wants to - then I'd let him play. But if one doctor out of the three suggests holding him out - I would probably hold him out. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, September 29, 2009 2:26 pm To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com So what do you suggest? Not trying to give you a hard time, but how do you think it should be handled? If you don't believe him when he says he's OK and he always says that, do you just retire his jersey right now? Do you make him answer all questions with his hand on a bible? Do you ask the medical staff what their opinion is? Or is there some other way that hasn't occurred to me yet? --- On Tue, 9/29/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: We know that tebow keeps telling Meyer he is okay and we find out there were major injuries later. How do you know if Tebow is being 100% truthful with doctors and not just telling them what they want to hear? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: FW: [gatornews] [DailyLobo.com] Tim Tebow, America's sweetheart
Just kidding Badrish!! I really appreciate your digging up any obscure article about the Gators. I was just joking about the Daily Lobo actually having an article about Tebow. And, as someone else has said, the writer's lack of maturity. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dbadr...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:11 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: FW: [gatornews] [DailyLobo.com] Tim Tebow, America's sweetheart I read it the second time...and I asked the same question to myself now :-( On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com wrote: The Daily Lobo? Badman, where ever did you find this? And, just who is Damian Garde? :-) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dbadr...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:26 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] [DailyLobo.com] Tim Tebow, America's sweetheart http://www.dailylobo.com/index.php/ Daily Lobo Tim Tebow, America's sweetheart By Damian http://index.php/search/?a=1au=Damian+Garde Garde | DAILY LOBO Tim Tebow is a remarkably detestable football player. There's the endless media fawning, the squeaky-clean image, the dumbfounding Heisman acceptance speech and, of course, the God complex. Tebow, the bruising, gee-golly face of college football, is the ambassador from a world of early bedtimes and rubber wristbands. After winning two national titles quarterbacking the Florida Gators, Tebow became the proselytizing poster child for everything annoying about his sport. On the field, he's a bizarrely upright, unstoppable rusher, and he's averaged 31 touchdowns through the air in the past two seasons. He's equal parts Joe Namath, Joe Jonas and Jimmy Swaggart. In short, he's the bro messiah. So, on Saturday, when the Chosen One took a nasty shot, clanked his head on the way down and lay motionless on the field, I should have felt some tinge of schadenfreude. But I didn't. Hard as I try, I just can't bring myself to hate Tim Tebow. On the one hand, listening to Tebow is a bit like driving behind a Hummer: maddening, uncomfortable and ideologically offensive in a way you can't quite put your finger on. But on the other hand, you can't blame the sun for rising. To most people, a postgame interview might not seem like the proper place to explain that God has a plan for everyone and that your motivation in throwing footballs at people is to get to heaven. But for Tebow, a man who was raised by missionaries and spends his spring breaks spreading the Gospel to Third-World kids, a career in football is just an extension of the family business. Furthermore, the guy's entire biography reads like a parable. While his mother was pregnant with him, she came down with amoebic dysentery while out building mud huts in the Philippines. Her doctor recommended she terminate the pregnancy, because having a child would put her life at risk. But she, of course, refused, bringing into the world a brutal football force, smashing fellow human beings on Saturday and getting up for church on Sunday. That story, along with other tearful testimonials of Tebow's general blessedness, is just a glimpse at the culture in which he was raised. If you were told your entire life that you were a walking miracle, wouldn't you start to believe it at some point? And as much as Tebow rarely passes up an opportunity to plug the Book of John, it's hard to tell which came first: Tebow's postgame preaching or the sports world's fascination with his divinity. Would a reporter ask Colt McCoy if he was saving himself for marriage? Would ESPN speculate that Jacory Harris asked Jesus for some downfield blocking? Tebow fields all manners of nonsensical questions and, in a sense, his willingness to bind faith and football for his interviewers is kind of endearing. As tempting as it is to snicker when Tebow explains that Jesus already tweeted enough; we just have to look at it, there's no pretense to his madcap preaching. The guy's just doing what he knows: saving souls and winning football games. You can't hate an athlete for being honest with himself. So, when Tebow gets to the NFL and turns every postgame presser into a revival, it won't bother me. Unless he gets drafted by the Cowboys. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
The key is there are 25 diagnostic symptoms they are looking for, not just how are you feeling. The medical professionals have been around Tim enough to know if he is his normal self, regardless (or is that irregardless?) of his answers. That combined with observational data on other symptoms will lead a go, no-go decision. I think some of what Dr. Cantu said about distinguishing the symptoms of a concussion from the flu (or upper respitory ailment) are the key. Tim was hit square in the chest, which could have knocked the breath out of him, couple that with getting hit on the back of the head and a mild concussion might appear to be more severe. Only time will tell, but I would bet on Tim playing at LSU. Two things that bother me about this whole situation, one being Ben Volin of the Miami Herald who is reporting all kinds of supposition as fact. He has stated several times that Tebow was out for over 2 minutes, this has not been confirmed by anyone. He also has reported that Tebow answered every question on the sideline I don't remember, I have watch the TV broadcast several times and while I am not an expert lip reader, I don't see him saying that at all. The other thing is this whole debate over whether he should have been in the game. If he doesn't get injured are we talking about this at all? And who has the margin of lead vs. time left in game chart to show where it is safe to take out your star player? Why is no one harping on Mack Brown at Texas for leaving Colt McCoy in the 3rd quarter with a 50-7 lead? Simple, because he didn't get hurt. The play Tebow got hurt on isn't inherently dangerous to the QB, the QB just needs to make a quick read. He either throws the quick slant or rolls right for a run. Tim held the ball too long on the slant and that allowed him to get hit. It was just a football play with a terrible outcome, but could have happened in the first quarter of the Troy game or the 3rd quarter of Kentucky. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:36 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? Problem is - I am not a medical doctor. I would be very conservative. If it means we lose games - but Tebow recovers more fully - I have no problem with that. Tebow is too special of a person to rush back into football and risk problems later on. What I would do is to get at least two or three expert doctors opinions. And probably go with the most conservative opinion. Have his family involved in the decision. I guess my point is - take the decision away from Tim himself. I am afraid Tim would rush things. If you consult 3 doctors that are experts on sports concussions and they all three agree that Tim can play at LSU - and Tim wants to - then I'd let him play. But if one doctor out of the three suggests holding him out - I would probably hold him out. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, September 29, 2009 2:26 pm To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com So what do you suggest? Not trying to give you a hard time, but how do you think it should be handled? If you don't believe him when he says he's OK and he always says that, do you just retire his jersey right now? Do you make him answer all questions with his hand on a bible? Do you ask the medical staff what their opinion is? Or is there some other way that hasn't occurred to me yet? --- On Tue, 9/29/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: We know that tebow keeps telling Meyer he is okay and we find out there were major injuries later. How do you know if Tebow is being 100% truthful with doctors and not just telling them what they want to hear? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit
Actually, after listening to Addazio's comments about the play, it looks like Tebow forgot to run to the right like everyone else was doing. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dbadr...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:53 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Addazio takes responsibility for Tebow hit I agree with you that the play calling can be questioned since like you said, that play was going to end up with somebody in TT's face no matter what. But I am still not sold that it was just too too late to have TT in the game still. I think it's borderline... On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: That was the dude! Strange Kresser facts - He played briefly in the NFL and threw for a TD for the Bengals He threw for the 2nd longest TD pass in Florida history - without peeking who knows the longest? He held the record for the most passing yards in a game by a Junior in UF history (I'm trying to see if TRex broke the record) My point was that I don't see a dramatic drop-off in ability between the two players: One needs experience The other has the flu and needed two IV bags before the game just to take the field In that context, I thought that pulling TT earlier than normal was the right call, especially the way that he ended the first quarter with such a flourish. -Zeb On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: I remember him doing that one time - in the middle of Wuerffel's senior season when we played Northern Illinois or some other directional school, so that Eric Kresser could play. I don't recall Kresser ever being inserted into an SEC game - especially on the road, any earlier than the fourth quarter, and I seem to recall some scorelines from that era that make Saturday's 31-7 look downright close. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Zeb wrote: remember the games when SOS would sit Wuerffel for the whole game to give his backup meaningful playing time? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results
My performance thus far: first week = 7 right; second week = 4; third = 6; fourth = 5. That ties me for 161st place. Someone just shoot me. Mary On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com wrote: 4 correct here…just call me Mr. Vegas From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results That makes me feel better about my 5 right. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Woody To: Gatortalk Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results I ONLY GOT 4 PICKS RIGHT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! (grumble) On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com John and Oz BRBR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
That's exactly what Meyer is doing. Nor are the doctors leaving it up to Tebow to tell them he's ok. There are specific tests that can easily determine if he has recovered sufficiently to play in 2 weeks. I'm willing to wager that he'll be ready. Hmm. I wonder what the Vegas line is on Timmy playing against LSU? :-) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:01 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? While no one wants to see any one get hurt or suffer any more serious injury... If I were the HBC, I would leave it in the doctors hands. I have to believe, and I think Coach Meyer has said as such, that we want him to play; as long as he's not causing any permanent damage, of course. Am I wrong to view it this way? SHANE GO GATORS! _ From: ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com To: gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:42:59 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? Knowing that Tebow is not going to tell coach Meyer (and perhaps others) that he is hurt Knowing how serious concussions can be and the only cure is to rest Do you hold Tebow out of the LSU game to make sure his brain recovers or leave it up to what Tebow is telling doctors? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
As I've said before, if I lived in Miami I'd file a class action lawsuit against the Miami Herald and Ben Volin and Joseph Goodman for lousy reporting about the Gators. I don't even think Volin was in Lexington that night. His facts are too full of holes. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Two things that bother me about this whole situation, one being Ben Volin of the Miami Herald who is reporting all kinds of supposition as fact. He has stated several times that Tebow was out for over 2 minutes, this has not been confirmed by anyone. He also has reported that Tebow answered every question on the sideline I don't remember, I have watch the TV broadcast several times and while I am not an expert lip reader, I don't see him saying that at all. Ken K MNGator --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] A few Gator statitistics
Brady Ackerman on Gator Country says UF is on pace to break 1995 Nebraska's record for yards per carry at 7.0. And, he says that UF's next three opponents rank: LSU 65th, Arky 52nd and MSU 56th in the nation against the run. This isn't the first time I've heard this team compared to Nebraska in the mid nineties. And, several sports writers have said that when Tebow and Spikes are gone there's plenty of talent left to keep the ball rolling. (pun intended) If you're not on Gator Country, you're missing some really good stuff! This team has an opportunity to do something really special. Only Ohio State has ever gone 14-0. Hmm. they must not've played anyone on the SEC that year. :-) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
especially, Superman! :-) On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:23 PM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Kids that age - don't think about the future. They think they are indestructible. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Tue, September 29, 2009 2:04 pm To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Good question. Tebow will always choose to play, and I think he feels he has a score to settle in Baton Rouge. I think you simply tell Tim that he has to be totally truthful with the doctors, that he knows there is much more to life than one football game, and that his health is much more important. Then trust him. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -- *From*: *Date*: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:42:59 -0700 *To*: gatortalk googlegroupsGatortalk@googlegroups.com *Subject*: [gatortalk] Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest? Knowing that Tebow is not going to tell coach Meyer (and perhaps others) that he is hurt Knowing how serious concussions can be and the only cure is to rest Do you hold Tebow out of the LSU game to make sure his brain recovers or leave it up to what Tebow is telling doctors? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
This is only my guess (or maybe my dream!): Brantley will start but Tebow will come in to play like he did with Chris Leak...only this time, more frequently! On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com wrote: As I’ve said before, if I lived in Miami I’d file a class action lawsuit against the Miami Herald and Ben Volin and Joseph Goodman for lousy reporting about the Gators. I don’t even think Volin was in Lexington that night. His “facts” are too full of holes. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 -- *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Kirkley Two things that bother me about this whole situation, one being Ben Volin of the Miami Herald who is reporting all kinds of supposition as fact. He has stated several times that Tebow was out for over 2 minutes, this has not been confirmed by anyone. He also has reported that Tebow answered every question on the sideline I don't remember, I have watch the TV broadcast several times and while I am not an expert lip reader, I don't see him saying that at all. *Ken K* *MNGator* --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
But thats what they want to avoid. They will probably limit him to very lil contact. And so would I. Assuming he is atleast 85-90% to play.. Yes i would start him. However, he would only manage the game. Play a few series, bring Brantley in to play a few. Interspersed... Bring in Moody or Haden in for some wildgator or basically be Tebow for a few plays. Haden played QB in HS, so he could also pass some as well to throw ppl off. We already know he got some practice in the spring Might as well put to use here and there. Moody is better fit physically than the other RBs to be Tebow I believe. Nope. I havent thought about this at all since Saturday. I never obsess about such things. Nope... Not me. Woody On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:47 PM, dbadr...@gmail.com dbadr...@gmail.com wrote: This is only my guess (or maybe my dream!): Brantley will start but Tebow will come in to play like he did with Chris Leak...only this time, more frequently! On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com wrote: As I’ve said before, if I lived in Miami I’d file a class action lawsuit against the Miami Herald and Ben Volin and Joseph Goodman fo r lousy reporting about the Gators. I don’t even think Volin was in Lexington that night. His “facts” are too full of holes. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Two things that bother me about this whole situation, one being Ben Volin of the Miami Herald who is reporting all kinds of supposition as fact. He has stated several times that Tebow was out for over 2 minutes, this has not been confirmed by anyone. He also has reported that Tebow answered every question on the sideline I don't remember, I have watch the TV broadcast several times and while I am not an expert lip reader, I don't see him saying that at all. Ken K MNGator --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results
My performance so far: 9 right, 5 right, 8 right, 4 right. That ties me for 66th place with 18 of my closest friends, including Leon, Jerry and Jay. We're killin' 'em. LMAO. Cee - Original Message - From: Mary Weigly To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results My performance thus far: first week = 7 right; second week = 4; third = 6; fourth = 5. That ties me for 161st place. Someone just shoot me. Mary On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com wrote: 4 correct here…just call me Mr. Vegas From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results That makes me feel better about my 5 right. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Woody To: Gatortalk Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results I ONLY GOT 4 PICKS RIGHT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! (grumble) On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com John and Oz BRBR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results
I only got 6 right!! Bloody spreads! I need a week off to rest my brain... Wanda - Original Message - From: Woody To: Gatortalk Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Pick 'em results I ONLY GOT 4 PICKS RIGHT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! (grumble) On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Congrats to Kathy Byrd-Hohn for turning in a fantastic 13-2 mark last week to take first place in Pick 'Em. Eric Bunce went 11-4 to finish 2nd, and a bunch of peeps went 10-5 to finish 3rd. For the year, Vince Santamaria still leads at 39-21, followed by Dean Tilman, Kathy Byrd-Hohn and Libby J at 33-27. Six games back! I can't remember a lead like that, six games. No Pick 'Em this week as the Gators are off. Superman needs the week off, too, I suspect. http://pickem.g8r.com John and Oz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
Two things that bother me about this whole situation, one being Ben Volin of the Miami Herald who is reporting all kinds of supposition as fact. He has stated several times that Tebow was out for over 2 minutes, this has not been confirmed by anyone. He also has reported that Tebow answered every question on the sideline I don't remember, I have watch the TV broadcast several times and while I am not an expert lip reader, I don't see him saying that at all. You know, I didn't save the game, so I can't replay it and see if I just wasn't paying attention each time they focused on TT, but I don't recall him responding that way. I do have a little bit of hearing damage in one of my ears and because of that, I'm a pretty decent lip reader. I saw Tebow say, How's that? at least two, maybe three times to questions posed at him by people coming up to him while he was seated after the concussion - but never I don't remember. Maybe this happened when the trainers and Dr. Pete were still closely huddled next to him and evaluating him? Sandy The Baltimore Gator --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Check this out!!
Very cool Mary, enjoy! - Original Message - From: Mary Weigly To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:41 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Check this out!! Look what I picked up today... and promptly installed on my orange Element! I'm a happy Texas Gator! Mary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Check this out!!
Gorgeous! It'll be even better when we beat Texas for the NC. Now, about that blue pin striping with the Gator Head logo Go Gators! On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Darlene Goodfellow wrote: Very cool Mary, enjoy! - Original Message - From: Mary Weigly To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:41 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Check this out!! Look what I picked up today... and promptly installed on my orange Element! I'm a happy Texas Gator! Mary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Check this out!!
Very nice. I need, I need! Cee - Original Message - From: Mary Weigly To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:41 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Check this out!! Look what I picked up today... and promptly installed on my orange Element! I'm a happy Texas Gator! Mary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
