RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Randy Lyons
Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can
regroup by 2015. L
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
Amen, Brutha Woody!
 
There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point.  Our team
sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal
to our expectations.  We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for
many of our years of Gator fandom:  Wait 'til next year.  :-/
 
Cee 
- Original Message - 
From: Woody Bass mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com  
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
oh everyone Chill out.  Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and
realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). 
 
we just have to move on from here.  After the first few games... I dont
think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be)
 
 
On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:




Try injecting a little reading comprehension.

Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are.

Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was
still young.



--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com
jbowe...@cfl.rr.com
Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM

Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list...
Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit
it, it has a LOT to do with coaching.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
 
  _  

From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble 
Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM 

You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting
a modicum of blame on therefs?

 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

Don't put anything past a crew that;

Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the
facemask wasn't touched, then;

Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same
thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then;

Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from
us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes
remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the
game - roughing the snapper.

--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote:
Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the
whistle, like the fumble?
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Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Woody Bass
Yea... this wont be an easy turn around... driskell is supposed to be  
the real deal and fits what Meyer wants to do... but i doubt he starts  
as a Frosh.  Alot of people think Brantley transfers after this year.



On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Randy Lyons wrote:

Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I’m hoping  
we can regroup by 2015. L


Randy

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com]  
On Behalf Of Cecilia

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

Amen, Brutha Woody!

There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point.   
Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly  
hasn't been equal to our expectations.  We're back to the old maxim  
most of us have faced for many of our years of Gator fandom:  Wait  
'til next year.  :-/


Cee
- Original Message -
From: Woody Bass
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

oh everyone Chill out.  Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and  
realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs).


we just have to move on from here.  After the first few games... I  
dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it  
shouldnt be)



On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:


Try injecting a little reading comprehension.

Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we  
are.


Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season  
was still young.




--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com  
jbowe...@cfl.rr.com

Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM

Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list...

Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want  
to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android


From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com;
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com;
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM

You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're  
putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs?




From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com]  
On Behalf Of Steve McKibben

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble



Don't put anything past a crew that;

Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved  
but the facemask wasn't touched, then;


Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the  
same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then;


Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game  
from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu  
with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called  
before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper.


--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com  
wrote:


Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after  
the whistle, like the fumble?


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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions |
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel  
(1996),

Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions |
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(1996),

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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions |
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(1996),

Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions |
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(1996),

Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Rob Alexander
Hah!  I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no
expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait
'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic.  J
Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we
actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right
decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains
to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to
develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game,
we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all
stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get
used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this
before Foley would get involved.

 

Rob

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can
regroup by 2015. L

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

Amen, Brutha Woody!

 

There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point.  Our team
sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal
to our expectations.  We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for
many of our years of Gator fandom:  Wait 'til next year.  :-/

 

Cee 

- Original Message - 

From: Woody Bass mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com  

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

oh everyone Chill out.  Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and
realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). 

 

we just have to move on from here.  After the first few games... I dont
think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be)

 

 

On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:






Try injecting a little reading comprehension.

Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are.

Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was
still young.



--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com
jbowe...@cfl.rr.com
Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM


Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list...

Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit
it, it has a LOT to do with coaching.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

 

  _  

From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble 
Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM 


You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting
a modicum of blame on therefs?


 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble


 


Don't put anything past a crew that;

Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the
facemask wasn't touched, then;

Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same
thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then;

Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from
us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes
remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the
game - roughing the snapper.

--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote:

Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the
whistle, like the fumble?

-- 
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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

 

-- 
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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

 

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Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Arthur Polhill
I agree with Rob.  And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly.  If I'm 
wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level of 
play next year.

A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 





From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble


Hah!  I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no 
expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say ‘wait ‘till 
next year’. Saying wait ‘till next decade just sounds too pathetic.  J  
Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we 
actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions 
on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, 
but 
the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With 
that, 
and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in the 
hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and leaves 
the coaching team intact, then we may as well get used to this feeling. I think 
it would take another full year like this before Foley would get involved.
 
Rob
 
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Randy Lyons
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I’m hoping we can 
regroup by 2015. L
 
Randy
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Cecilia
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
Amen, Brutha Woody!
 
There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point.  Our team 
sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to 
our expectations.  We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many 
of 
our years of Gator fandom:  Wait 'til next year.  :-/
 
Cee 
- Original Message - 
From:Woody Bass 
To:gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent:Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM
Subject:Re: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
oh everyone Chill out.  Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic 
and your all making good points (coaching and refs). 

 
we just have to move on from here.  After the first few games... I dont think 
this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be)
 
 
On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:



Try injecting a little reading comprehension.

Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are.

Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still 
young.



--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com 
jbowe...@cfl.rr.com
Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM
Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list...
Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit 
it, 
it has a LOT to do with coaching.


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android 
 



From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble 
Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM 
You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a 
modicum of blame on the……..refs?

 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Steve McKibben
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 
Don't put anything past a crew that;

Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the 
facemask wasn't touched, then;

Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing 
happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then;

Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, 
still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes 
remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the 
game 
- roughing the snapper.

--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote:
Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the 
whistle, like the fumble? 

-- 
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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
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RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Randy Lyons
In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you
use the word disgusting in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad
shape.
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
I agree with Rob.  And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly.  If I'm
wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level
of play next year.
 
A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing.
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 
 
 
  _  

From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
Hah!  I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no
expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait
'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic.  J
Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we
actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right
decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains
to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to
develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game,
we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all
stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get
used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this
before Foley would get involved.
 
Rob
 
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can
regroup by 2015. L
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
Amen, Brutha Woody!
 
There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point.  Our team
sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal
to our expectations.  We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for
many of our years of Gator fandom:  Wait 'til next year.  :-/
 
Cee 
- Original Message - 
From: Woody Bass mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com  
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble
 
oh everyone Chill out.  Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and
realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). 
 
we just have to move on from here.  After the first few games... I dont
think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be)
 
 
On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:
 

Try injecting a little reading comprehension.

Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are.

Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was
still young.



--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com
jbowe...@cfl.rr.com
Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM

Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list...
Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit
it, it has a LOT to do with coaching.
Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
 
  _  

From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble 
Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM 

You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting
a modicum of blame on therefs?

 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

Don't put anything past a crew that;

Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the
facemask wasn't touched, then;

Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same
thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then;

Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from
us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes
remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the
game - roughing the snapper.

--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote:
Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the
whistle, like the fumble?
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 

[gatortalk] Re: Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Steve McKibben
First off, I apologize for calling posters out by name in the heat of the 
aftermath of last night's debacle.

For the record, in response to Stacy's question about a particular call, I took 
the opportunity to bash the ACC crew that worked the game for being, on 
occasion, what I felt, and still feel to be,unfair to the Gators. My memory of 
the ACC crew that worked the swindle in the swamp in 2003 is still bitter. 

That opinion was ridiculed (but I wasn't called out by name) for putting a 
modicum of blame(for the loss) at the feet of the officials. I had explicitly 
stated that we were so bad that the semis didn't need their help to win the 
game. 

In my opinion, that doesn't exonerate the crew for their blatant errors - even 
if, as was pointed out, the roughing the snapper penalty call was correct - I 
still don't ever recall it being called that before, maybe it falls under a 
bigger umbrella of personal foul. From a conference whose referee once called 
a foul giving him the business I suppose anything is possible.

I'll address my opinions on the mess that was/is this miserable football season 
in a separate post.

Again, I apologize for my post game indiscretion.

Steve McKibben

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Re: [gatortalk] Re: Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Woody Bass
I appreciate it Steve.. but no need to apologize in my opinion.. we're  
all in pain and just as frustrated...



On Nov 28, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:

First off, I apologize for calling posters out by name in the heat  
of the aftermath of last night's debacle.


For the record, in response to Stacy's question about a particular  
call, I took the opportunity to bash the ACC crew that worked the  
game for being, on occasion, what I felt, and still feel to  
be,unfair to the Gators. My memory of the ACC crew that worked the  
swindle in the swamp in 2003 is still bitter.


That opinion was ridiculed (but I wasn't called out by name) for  
putting a modicum of blame(for the loss) at the feet of the  
officials. I had explicitly stated that we were so bad that the  
semis didn't need their help to win the game.


In my opinion, that doesn't exonerate the crew for their blatant  
errors - even if, as was pointed out, the roughing the snapper  
penalty call was correct - I still don't ever recall it being called  
that before, maybe it falls under a bigger umbrella of personal  
foul. From a conference whose referee once called a foul giving  
him the business I suppose anything is possible.


I'll address my opinions on the mess that was/is this miserable  
football season in a separate post.


Again, I apologize for my post game indiscretion.

Steve McKibben

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RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Oliver Barry
One other perspective of this horrible season should be considered from
Jerry's original question.  He said, in light of expectations.

If one considers the loss of two coaches, one of whom garnered incredible
criticism while in Gainesville, 11 players who went on to play in the NFL,
one arguably the best college football player in history, the rash of
injuries and suspensions to speed athletes and the infusion of lots of
inexperienced freshmen and red-shirt freshmen, why would anyone have
expected the Gators to be eastern division champs before the start of the
season?

Yes, we were led to believe these freshmen were the second coming of the
legendary four horsemen, but they are still inexperienced freshmen!  Even
Tebow didn't do that well his freshman season.  

We really expected too much from this team.  

Now, can it be fixed?  What would you do, fire Meyer?  

As he said, he has resurrected 3 football programs in his career.  Would you
really expect John Brantley to transfer?  Maybe he isn't Cam Newton, but if
you could just get a decent running back to stay healthy and plan the
offense around his drop back style he could be a lot more effective.  I
know, he played lousy yesterday, but the whole team gave up.  Everybody did.


I think the coaching staff will be able to fix things with the talent we
have.  And we the fans need to be more realistic about what to expect from
this team.  You can't just win it all every year.  Look at Nick Satan!  At
the beginning of this season he was the answer to college football.  He was
the supreme commander.  Where is he now?  

Does anyone here really Gene Chizik will sustain what's happening at Auburn?
Gus Malzahn won't be able to save him next year when ole Cam is gone.

Oh yes, we could get rid of Addazio.  And, yes his play calling was
unimaginative.  But, I wonder if he might stick his neck out a little more
on game day if Deonte isn't a threat to drop half of what's thrown to him.
He has improved greatly this year.  The team will improve in the off season.
The sun will come up tomorrow.

We'll be back on top.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:25 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you
use the word disgusting in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad
shape.

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

I agree with Rob.  And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly.  If I'm
wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level
of play next year.

 

A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 

 

 

  _  

From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

Hah!  I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no
expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait
'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic.
:-)  Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe
we actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right
decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains
to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to
develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game,
we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all
stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get
used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this
before Foley would get involved.

 

Rob

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can
regroup by 2015. :-(

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

Amen, Brutha Woody!

 

There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point.  Our team
sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal
to our expectations.  We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for
many of our years of 

RE: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

2010-11-28 Thread Oliver Barry
I wonder who Miami will get.  Was that true about McCarney, Darlene?

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody Bass
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:21 PM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

expect to see Addazios name up for that job. 
  

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RE: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

2010-11-28 Thread John Bowers
Probably a few who wear orange and blue would pitch in to hire a mover. :-)

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody Bass
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:21 PM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

expect to see Addazios name up for that job. 
  



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RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Robert R. Williams, PLS
I agree, I've seen worst years in my Gator life and they always get better.

Go Gators.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:21 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

One other perspective of this horrible season should be considered from
Jerry's original question.  He said, in light of expectations.

If one considers the loss of two coaches, one of whom garnered incredible
criticism while in Gainesville, 11 players who went on to play in the NFL,
one arguably the best college football player in history, the rash of
injuries and suspensions to speed athletes and the infusion of lots of
inexperienced freshmen and red-shirt freshmen, why would anyone have
expected the Gators to be eastern division champs before the start of the
season?

Yes, we were led to believe these freshmen were the second coming of the
legendary four horsemen, but they are still inexperienced freshmen!  Even
Tebow didn't do that well his freshman season.  

We really expected too much from this team.  

Now, can it be fixed?  What would you do, fire Meyer?  

As he said, he has resurrected 3 football programs in his career.  Would you
really expect John Brantley to transfer?  Maybe he isn't Cam Newton, but if
you could just get a decent running back to stay healthy and plan the
offense around his drop back style he could be a lot more effective.  I
know, he played lousy yesterday, but the whole team gave up.  Everybody did.


I think the coaching staff will be able to fix things with the talent we
have.  And we the fans need to be more realistic about what to expect from
this team.  You can't just win it all every year.  Look at Nick Satan!  At
the beginning of this season he was the answer to college football.  He was
the supreme commander.  Where is he now?  

Does anyone here really Gene Chizik will sustain what's happening at Auburn?
Gus Malzahn won't be able to save him next year when ole Cam is gone.

Oh yes, we could get rid of Addazio.  And, yes his play calling was
unimaginative.  But, I wonder if he might stick his neck out a little more
on game day if Deonte isn't a threat to drop half of what's thrown to him.
He has improved greatly this year.  The team will improve in the off season.
The sun will come up tomorrow.

We'll be back on top.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:25 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you
use the word disgusting in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad
shape.

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

I agree with Rob.  And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly.  If I'm
wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level
of play next year.

 

A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 

 

 

  _  

From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

Hah!  I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no
expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait
'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic.  J
Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we
actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right
decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains
to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to
develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game,
we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all
stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get
used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this
before Foley would get involved.

 

Rob

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can
regroup by 2015. L

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 

Re: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

2010-11-28 Thread Darlene Goodfellow

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=5856208campaign=rsssource=NCFHeadlines

Looks like a good opportunity and probably about a $200K raise.


- Original Message - 
From: Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:22 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...



I wonder who Miami will get.  Was that true about McCarney, Darlene?

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239



-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody Bass
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:21 PM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

expect to see Addazios name up for that job.


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[gatortalk] Gators vs Zook in the Gator Bowl?

2010-11-28 Thread Charlie
One guy thinks so. No win situation for Meyer. If you don't win there will
really be hell to pay.  
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/gatorbytes/2010/11/28/zookbowl/

SEC Bowl projections: Florida vs. former coach Ron Zook in Gator Bowl

by Jason Lieser 

Florida ended the regular season 7-5 after losing decisively at Florida
State on Saturday, and now the Gators' best hope for a bowl game is the
Gator Bowl.

Florida is higher than the seventh best team in the SEC, but will jump up to
the conference's No. 6 bowl contract because the SEC is likely to land two
teams in BCS games.

If the Gator Bowl passes on Florida, it could be a precipitous drop. The
Music City Bowl (Nashville) and Liberty Bowl might prefer nearby Tennessee
or Kentucky over the Gators. That is unlikely, though, given how limited the
Gator Bowl's choices will be.

If the Gators go to the bowl named after themselves, they will face the
fourth or fifth choice from the Big Ten. Illinois, Penn State, Michigan and
Northwestern would be in contention to fill that spot.

At this point, bet on the on the Gator Bowl committee picking Florida vs.
Illinois, which would pit the Gators against former coach Ron Zook. Zook
coached the team from 2002 through '04 before he was fired.

 

 

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Re: [gatortalk] Gators vs Zook in the Gator Bowl?

2010-11-28 Thread Darlene Goodfellow
I've been saying ever since we lost to MSU that was a possibility, the bowl 
committees have been waiting for a chance to match these two coaches up. I'll 
be surprised if it doesn't happen now.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Charlie 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:15 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Gators vs Zook in the Gator Bowl?


  One guy thinks so. No win situation for Meyer. If you don't win there will 
really be hell to pay.  
  http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/gatorbytes/2010/11/28/zookbowl/
  SEC Bowl projections: Florida vs. former coach Ron Zook in Gator Bowl
  by Jason Lieser 
  Florida ended the regular season 7-5 after losing decisively at Florida State 
on Saturday, and now the Gators' best hope for a bowl game is the Gator Bowl.

  Florida is higher than the seventh best team in the SEC, but will jump up to 
the conference's No. 6 bowl contract because the SEC is likely to land two 
teams in BCS games.

  If the Gator Bowl passes on Florida, it could be a precipitous drop. The 
Music City Bowl (Nashville) and Liberty Bowl might prefer nearby Tennessee or 
Kentucky over the Gators. That is unlikely, though, given how limited the Gator 
Bowl's choices will be.

  If the Gators go to the bowl named after themselves, they will face the 
fourth or fifth choice from the Big Ten. Illinois, Penn State, Michigan and 
Northwestern would be in contention to fill that spot.

  At this point, bet on the on the Gator Bowl committee picking Florida vs. 
Illinois, which would pit the Gators against former coach Ron Zook. Zook 
coached the team from 2002 through '04 before he was fired.





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  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] Gators vs Zook in the Gator Bowl?

2010-11-28 Thread Helen Huntley
The St. Pete Times projection has Gators vs Iowa in the Gator Bowl.

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Darlene Goodfellow 
goodfell...@earthlink.net wrote:

  I've been saying ever since we lost to MSU that was a possibility, the
 bowl committees have been waiting for a chance to match these two coaches
 up. I'll be surprised if it doesn't happen now.



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Charlie ces1...@yahoo.com
 *To:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:15 PM
 *Subject:* [gatortalk] Gators vs Zook in the Gator Bowl?

 *One guy thinks so. No win situation for Meyer. If you don't win there
 will really be hell to pay.  *
 *http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/gatorbytes/2010/11/28/zookbowl/*
 * SEC Bowl projections: Florida vs. former coach Ron Zook in Gator Bowlby
 Jason Lieser

 Florida ended the regular season 7-5 after losing decisively at Florida
 State on Saturday, and now the Gators’ best hope for a bowl game is the
 Gator Bowl.

 Florida is higher than the seventh best team in the SEC, but will jump up
 to the conference’s No. 6 bowl contract because the SEC is likely to land
 two teams in BCS games.

 If the Gator Bowl passes on Florida, it could be a precipitous drop. The
 Music City Bowl (Nashville) and Liberty Bowl might prefer nearby Tennessee
 or Kentucky over the Gators. That is unlikely, though, given how limited the
 Gator Bowl’s choices will be.

 If the Gators go to the bowl named after themselves, they will face the
 fourth or fifth choice from the Big Ten. Illinois, Penn State, Michigan and
 Northwestern would be in contention to fill that spot.

 At this point, bet on the on the Gator Bowl committee picking Florida vs.
 Illinois, which would pit the Gators against former coach Ron Zook. Zook
 coached the team from 2002 through ’04 before he was fired.


 *
 **

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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami

2010-11-28 Thread Woody Bass
Not gonna happen.  Gruden loves where he's at and if he goes back into  
coaching.. he's going back to the NFL



On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:34 PM, John Bowers wrote:


Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami
Posted on: November 28, 2010 6:39 pm
Edited on: November 28, 2010 7:07 pm

From the sound of things, the Miami Hurricanes may not be without a  
head coach for very long.  After announcing that Randy Shannon had  
been fired following Saturday's loss to South Florida, there are  
rumors out of Miami that former NFL coach and current ESPN analyst  
Jon Gruden is going to take over at Miami.


Now, it's important to point out here that neither Gruden nor Miami  
have said anything about this rumor.  It all started out as a  
solitary tweet on Sunday afternoon that quickly became an internet  
and Twitter wildfire.  Still, according to a report in the Sun- 
Sentinel, Gruden has reached out to Miami to talk about the job.


According to a UM source, former NFL coach Jon Gruden initiated  
contact with the university to express his desire for the job and  
that the interest in mutual. Hocutt said there's no timeline on the  
hire and that money will not be an issue in the selection.



Now, just because both sides are reportedly interested, that doesn't  
mean Gruden is going to be the next head coach at Miami.  Often  
times there's interest on behalf of both parties, but then once  
contract details begin getting hammered out, that interest can  
sometimes wane.


Still, the fact that this was reported in the Sun-Sentinel lends a  
lot more credibility to the rumor than a single tweet ever could.   
There definitely appears to be some smoke here.


Whatever ends up happening, it's pretty obvious that 'Canes fans  
have already begun fantasizing about the possibilities.




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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami

2010-11-28 Thread Darlene Goodfellow
NBC's NFL broadcast has San Fran going after Gruden. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody Bass 
  To: Gatortalk 
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:40 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami


  Not gonna happen.  Gruden loves where he's at and if he goes back into 
coaching.. he's going back to the NFL 




  On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:34 PM, John Bowers wrote:


Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami
Posted on: November 28, 2010 6:39 pm
Edited on: November 28, 2010 7:07 pm

From the sound of things, the Miami Hurricanes may not be without a head 
coach for very long.  After announcing that Randy Shannon had been fired 
following Saturday's loss to South Florida, there are rumors out of Miami that 
former NFL coach and current ESPN analyst Jon Gruden is going to take over at 
Miami. 

Now, it's important to point out here that neither Gruden nor Miami have 
said anything about this rumor.  It all started out as a solitary tweet on 
Sunday afternoon that quickly became an internet and Twitter wildfire.  Still, 
according to a report in the Sun-Sentinel, Gruden has reached out to Miami to 
talk about the job.

According to a UM source, former NFL coach Jon Gruden initiated contact 
with the university to express his desire for the job and that the interest in 
mutual. Hocutt said there's no timeline on the hire and that money will not be 
an issue in the selection.


Now, just because both sides are reportedly interested, that doesn't mean 
Gruden is going to be the next head coach at Miami.  Often times there's 
interest on behalf of both parties, but then once contract details begin 
getting hammered out, that interest can sometimes wane. 

Still, the fact that this was reported in the Sun-Sentinel lends a lot more 
credibility to the rumor than a single tweet ever could.  There definitely 
appears to be some smoke here. 

Whatever ends up happening, it's pretty obvious that 'Canes fans have 
already begun fantasizing about the possibilities. 





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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami

2010-11-28 Thread Woody Bass

That would be a good fit too.


On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Darlene Goodfellow wrote:


NBC's NFL broadcast has San Fran going after Gruden.
- Original Message -
From: Woody Bass
To: Gatortalk
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:40 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden  
and Miami


Not gonna happen.  Gruden loves where he's at and if he goes back  
into coaching.. he's going back to the NFL



On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:34 PM, John Bowers wrote:


Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami
Posted on: November 28, 2010 6:39 pm
Edited on: November 28, 2010 7:07 pm
From the sound of things, the Miami Hurricanes may not be without a  
head coach for very long.  After announcing that Randy Shannon had  
been fired following Saturday's loss to South Florida, there are  
rumors out of Miami that former NFL coach and current ESPN analyst  
Jon Gruden is going to take over at Miami.


Now, it's important to point out here that neither Gruden nor Miami  
have said anything about this rumor.  It all started out as a  
solitary tweet on Sunday afternoon that quickly became an internet  
and Twitter wildfire.  Still, according to a report in the Sun- 
Sentinel, Gruden has reached out to Miami to talk about the job.


According to a UM source, former NFL coach Jon Gruden initiated  
contact with the university to express his desire for the job and  
that the interest in mutual. Hocutt said there's no timeline on the  
hire and that money will not be an issue in the selection.



Now, just because both sides are reportedly interested, that  
doesn't mean Gruden is going to be the next head coach at Miami.   
Often times there's interest on behalf of both parties, but then  
once contract details begin getting hammered out, that interest can  
sometimes wane.


Still, the fact that this was reported in the Sun-Sentinel lends a  
lot more credibility to the rumor than a single tweet ever could.   
There definitely appears to be some smoke here.


Whatever ends up happening, it's pretty obvious that 'Canes fans  
have already begun fantasizing about the possibilities.



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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami

2010-11-28 Thread Woody Bass
you know... had Charlie Strong waited one more year he would have  
been a great fit at Miami.



On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Darlene Goodfellow wrote:


NBC's NFL broadcast has San Fran going after Gruden.
- Original Message -
From: Woody Bass
To: Gatortalk
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:40 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden  
and Miami


Not gonna happen.  Gruden loves where he's at and if he goes back  
into coaching.. he's going back to the NFL



On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:34 PM, John Bowers wrote:


Rumors swirl around Jon Gruden and Miami
Posted on: November 28, 2010 6:39 pm
Edited on: November 28, 2010 7:07 pm
From the sound of things, the Miami Hurricanes may not be without a  
head coach for very long.  After announcing that Randy Shannon had  
been fired following Saturday's loss to South Florida, there are  
rumors out of Miami that former NFL coach and current ESPN analyst  
Jon Gruden is going to take over at Miami.


Now, it's important to point out here that neither Gruden nor Miami  
have said anything about this rumor.  It all started out as a  
solitary tweet on Sunday afternoon that quickly became an internet  
and Twitter wildfire.  Still, according to a report in the Sun- 
Sentinel, Gruden has reached out to Miami to talk about the job.


According to a UM source, former NFL coach Jon Gruden initiated  
contact with the university to express his desire for the job and  
that the interest in mutual. Hocutt said there's no timeline on the  
hire and that money will not be an issue in the selection.



Now, just because both sides are reportedly interested, that  
doesn't mean Gruden is going to be the next head coach at Miami.   
Often times there's interest on behalf of both parties, but then  
once contract details begin getting hammered out, that interest can  
sometimes wane.


Still, the fact that this was reported in the Sun-Sentinel lends a  
lot more credibility to the rumor than a single tweet ever could.   
There definitely appears to be some smoke here.


Whatever ends up happening, it's pretty obvious that 'Canes fans  
have already begun fantasizing about the possibilities.



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Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Cecilia
I try to keep the glass half full, Ran.  


  - Original Message - 
  From: Randy Lyons 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble


  Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can 
regroup by 2015. L

   

  Randy

   

  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Cecilia
  Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  Amen, Brutha Woody!

   

  There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point.  Our team 
sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to 
our expectations.  We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many 
of our years of Gator fandom:  Wait 'til next year.  :-/

   

  Cee 

- Original Message - 

From: Woody Bass 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

 

oh everyone Chill out.  Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and 
realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). 

 

we just have to move on from here.  After the first few games... I dont 
think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be)

 

 

On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:





  Try injecting a little reading comprehension.

  Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we 
are.

  Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season 
was still young.



  --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote:


  From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
  To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com 
jbowe...@cfl.rr.com
  Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM

Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list...

Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't 
want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching.



Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
   

   


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  From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; 
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble 
  Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM 

You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and 
you're putting a modicum of blame on therefs?


 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble


 

  Don't put anything past a crew that;

  Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet 
was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then;

  Failed to call anything under the exact same 
circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he 
fumbled, then;

  Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to 
steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu 
with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the 
history of the game - roughing the snapper.

  --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride 
nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any 
action after the whistle, like the fumble?
 

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Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Cecilia
LOL.  Good perspective, Robert.  Anyone who was around in 1979 has seen the 
worst of the worst.  Everything is better than that year.  ;-)

Cee
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert R. Williams, PLS 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble


  I agree, I've seen worst years in my Gator life and they always get better.

  Go Gators.

   

  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:21 PM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  One other perspective of this horrible season should be considered from 
Jerry's original question.  He said, in light of expectations.

  If one considers the loss of two coaches, one of whom garnered incredible 
criticism while in Gainesville, 11 players who went on to play in the NFL, one 
arguably the best college football player in history, the rash of injuries and 
suspensions to speed athletes and the infusion of lots of inexperienced 
freshmen and red-shirt freshmen, why would anyone have expected the Gators to 
be eastern division champs before the start of the season?

  Yes, we were led to believe these freshmen were the second coming of the 
legendary four horsemen, but they are still inexperienced freshmen!  Even Tebow 
didn't do that well his freshman season.  

  We really expected too much from this team.  

  Now, can it be fixed?  What would you do, fire Meyer?  

  As he said, he has resurrected 3 football programs in his career.  Would you 
really expect John Brantley to transfer?  Maybe he isn't Cam Newton, but if you 
could just get a decent running back to stay healthy and plan the offense 
around his drop back style he could be a lot more effective.  I know, he played 
lousy yesterday, but the whole team gave up.  Everybody did.  

  I think the coaching staff will be able to fix things with the talent we 
have.  And we the fans need to be more realistic about what to expect from this 
team.  You can't just win it all every year.  Look at Nick Satan!  At the 
beginning of this season he was the answer to college football.  He was the 
supreme commander.  Where is he now?  

  Does anyone here really Gene Chizik will sustain what's happening at Auburn?  
Gus Malzahn won't be able to save him next year when ole Cam is gone.

  Oh yes, we could get rid of Addazio.  And, yes his play calling was 
unimaginative.  But, I wonder if he might stick his neck out a little more on 
game day if Deonte isn't a threat to drop half of what's thrown to him.  He has 
improved greatly this year.  The team will improve in the off season.  The sun 
will come up tomorrow.

  We'll be back on top.

   

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  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:25 PM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you 
use the word disgusting in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad shape.

   

  Randy

   

  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  I agree with Rob.  And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly.  If I'm 
wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level of 
play next year.

   

  A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing.
   

  A. Leon Polhill, Gator
  I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 

   

   


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  From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

  Hah!  I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no 
expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait 'till 
next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic.  J  
Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we 
actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions 
on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, 
but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With 
that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in 
the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and 
leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as 

Re: [gatortalk] Re: Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Stacey Hartley-McBride
No need to apologize, Steve.  Your post was correct - 1/2$$U didn't need the 
refs' help to beat us.  I would venture that if the refs had given us every 
call, we would have still lost.  The responses you received were merely 
opinions 
generated from frustrated, emotional fans.  It has been a tough season, but in 
the end, thank God we are Gators, win or lose.  Fortunately, we have an 
opportunity to end the season on a good note.  Beat whoever we play in whatever 
bowl game

Stacey
 
They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking 
that, Meyer said. Statistics are great.
 GATORS RULE!!! 





From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:58:41 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Fumble


First off, I apologize for calling posters out by name in the heat of the 
aftermath of last night's debacle.

For the record, in response to Stacy's question about a particular call, I took 
the opportunity to bash the ACC crew that worked the game for being, on 
occasion, what I felt, and still feel to be,unfair to the Gators. My memory of 
the ACC crew that worked the swindle in the swamp in 2003 is still bitter. 


That opinion was ridiculed (but I wasn't called out by name) for putting a 
modicum of blame(for the loss) at the feet of the officials. I had explicitly 
stated that we were so bad that the semis didn't need their help to win the 
game. 


In my opinion, that doesn't exonerate the crew for their blatant errors - even 
if, as was pointed out, the roughing the snapper penalty call was correct - I 
still don't ever recall it being called  that before, maybe it falls under a 
bigger umbrella of personal foul. From a conference whose referee once called 
a foul giving him the business I suppose anything is possible.

I'll address my opinions on the mess that was/is this miserable football season 
in a separate post.

Again, I apologize for my post game indiscretion.

Steve McKibben
 
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Re: [gatortalk] Re: Fumble

2010-11-28 Thread Arthur Polhill
I, along with many others, are glad to have you back active on the list 
suffering with us.  :)
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 





From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 4:09:19 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: Fumble

I appreciate it Steve.. but no need to apologize in my opinion.. we're all in 
pain and just as frustrated...  




On Nov 28, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:

First off, I apologize for calling posters out by name in the heat of the 
aftermath of last night's debacle.

For the record, in response to Stacy's question about a particular call, I 
took 
the opportunity to bash the ACC crew that worked the game for being, on 
occasion, what I felt, and still feel to be,unfair to the Gators. My memory of 
the ACC crew that worked the swindle in the swamp in 2003 is still bitter. 


That opinion was ridiculed (but I wasn't called out by name) for putting a 
modicum of blame(for the loss) at the feet of the officials. I had explicitly 
stated that we were so bad that the semis didn't need their help to win the 
game. 


In my opinion, that doesn't exonerate the crew for their blatant errors - even 
if, as was pointed out, the roughing the snapper penalty call was correct - 
I 
still don't ever recall it being called that before, maybe it falls under a 
bigger umbrella of personal foul. From a conference whose referee once 
called 
a foul giving him the business I suppose anything is possible.

I'll address my opinions on the mess that was/is this miserable football 
season 
in a separate post.

Again, I apologize for my post game indiscretion.

Steve McKibben
 

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Re: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

2010-11-28 Thread Arthur Polhill
May I write a letter of recommendation?
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 





From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com
To: Gatortalk gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 4:20:56 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

expect to see Addazios name up for that job.  
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[gatortalk] Well theres always basketball

2010-11-28 Thread Woody Bass
Maybe the basketball teams will show up?  Course.. they are only ahead  
by a pt right now over the Noles


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RE: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball

2010-11-28 Thread Robert R. Williams, PLS
Gators win 55-51, close one but a win is a win and it's over the noles.




-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody Bass
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:39 PM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball

Maybe the basketball teams will show up?  Course.. they are only ahead  
by a pt right now over the Noles

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Re: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball

2010-11-28 Thread Shane Ford
So... Instead of what till next year, it's now wait until basketball season? ;-)

Shane Ford
Sent from my iPhone
Go Gators!Skol Vikes!

On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Robert R. Williams, PLS a...@mfx.net wrote:

 Gators win 55-51, close one but a win is a win and it's over the noles.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Woody Bass
 Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:39 PM
 To: Gatortalk
 Subject: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball
 
 Maybe the basketball teams will show up?  Course.. they are only ahead  
 by a pt right now over the Noles
 
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 2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
 2008 National Football Champions   |   
 Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
 Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


[gatortalk] Jon Gruden says...

2010-11-28 Thread Gatorrrrrr
Via onlygators on Twitter:  

Statement from Jon Gruden on remaining at ESPN and not taking the Miami 
#Hurricanes head coaching gig - http://es.pn/e9IEYi

I am committed to Monday Night Football and to ESPN. I enjoy working with 
Mike, Jaws and our entire crew and am just trying to get better.
  
Woody (via iPhone)

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GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


Re: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball

2010-11-28 Thread oliver
Yes, it is. How many other universities can say that?  :-)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:08:29 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comgatortalk@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball

So... Instead of what till next year, it's now wait until basketball season? ;-)

Shane Ford
Sent from my iPhone
Go Gators!Skol Vikes!

On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Robert R. Williams, PLS a...@mfx.net wrote:

 Gators win 55-51, close one but a win is a win and it's over the noles.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Woody Bass
 Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:39 PM
 To: Gatortalk
 Subject: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball
 
 Maybe the basketball teams will show up?  Course.. they are only ahead  
 by a pt right now over the Noles
 
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 1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
 2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
 2008 National Football Champions   |   
 Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
 Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
 
 -- 
 GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
 1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
 2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
 2008 National Football Champions   |   
 Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
 Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


Re: [gatortalk] Jon Gruden says...

2010-11-28 Thread oliver
What?  Jon Gruden doesn't want to coach some chump thug school in the worn out 
suburbs of Miami?  He'd rather have a good job?  
What will become of the u?  

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gatorr gatorrr...@gmail.com
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:28:02 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Jon Gruden says...

Via onlygators on Twitter:  

Statement from Jon Gruden on remaining at ESPN and not taking the Miami 
#Hurricanes head coaching gig - http://es.pn/e9IEYi

I am committed to Monday Night Football and to ESPN. I enjoy working with 
Mike, Jaws and our entire crew and am just trying to get better.
  
Woody (via iPhone)

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


Re: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball

2010-11-28 Thread Arthur Polhill
You missed the bus if you're waiting for basketball season.  Gators are 7-1 
after beating FSU tonight.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 





From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 10:08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball

So... Instead of what till next year, it's now wait until basketball season? ;-)

Shane Ford
Sent from my iPhone
Go Gators!    Skol Vikes!

On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Robert R. Williams, PLS a...@mfx.net wrote:

 Gators win 55-51, close one but a win is a win and it's over the noles.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Woody Bass
 Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:39 PM
 To: Gatortalk
 Subject: [gatortalk] Well theres always basketball
 
 Maybe the basketball teams will show up?  Course.. they are only ahead  
 by a pt right now over the Noles
 
 -- 
 GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
 1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball Champions
 2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball Champions
 2008 National Football Champions  |  
 Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
 Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
 
 -- 
 GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
 1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball Champions
 2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball Champions
 2008 National Football Champions  |  
 Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
 Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions  |  
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] Indiana Job is open...

2010-11-28 Thread wildeart...@gmail.com
I feel like the dog in that old Far Side comic with the dog hoping the cat will 
climb into the dryer. Oh please! Oh please!  

Rob



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On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote:

 expect to see Addazios name up for that job.  
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 GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
 1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
 2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
 2008 National Football Champions   |   Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve 
 Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
 Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
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1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


[gatortalk] A Season of Un...

2010-11-28 Thread Dave Rice
I haven't commented in quite awhile regarding anything that has gone on
during this past football season. So - I'll take the opportunity at this
time.

 

What I've surmised is that this season has been the Season of Un. Simply
explained as follows (in any order, I numbered them for no particular
reason, nor order):

1.Unmotivated - The team played too many games looking as though they
were just putting in their time on a Saturday. No sense of purpose as a
group.

2.Unfocussed - Too many stupid penalties and blown assignments during
the season. There's a point where the players have to concentrate and get
the play right. During a game would be a good time.

3.Uninspired - There is no noticeable leadership on the team. No face
on the offense  no face on the defense. Nobody on the team has stepped up
to be the face - the leader. Sure, it's not easy to replace leaders, but
if a player is named as a Captain, then they had better step up. Granted, a
Tebow-like person is once in a lifetime; but most of us were lamenting as to
who would replace Weurffel and Wright after the '96 season.

4.Unskilled - The team had to replace a lot of good players. When 50+
players on the roster are redshirt sophomores down to true freshmen, they
are essentially unskilled for SEC football week in  week out. At any level,
seniors vs. underclassmen make for an ugly game at times. One might be a 4
or 5-Star recruit, but an underclassman vs. a senior in most instances is
going to be pretty ugly.

5.Underachieving - If the guys that replaced the fellows from last year
were supposed to be better than their predecessors, then they most certainly
didn't demonstrate it.

6.Unpracticed - I've thought about this one for a bit; and it pains me
to say  write it. The skill level of the receiving corps pales when
compared to previous receivers. The defense is a poor tackling team. They
need more practice to get better. The offensive line needs to block a lot
better. In fact, too many times both lines were basically blown off the line
of scrimmage.

7.Unemotional - For too many games, the team was emotionally flat.
There's a difference between emotional swagger and arrogance. The emotional
swagger that we've become accustomed to has not been there or noticeable.
That swagger exuded confidence and showed during games. I miss the swagger
of So what? We're the FLORIDA GATORS  we're here to make you play your
BEST game. Instead, we got We're the Gators - let's play a game  go
home.

 

Let's hope that during this off-season the coaching staff and team will undo
a lot of uncommon mistakes and unite as a team that has been given (gifted?)
a legacy to uphold.

 

It's been frustrating - to say the least.

In all kinds of weather - Go Gators!

Dave Rice

Home:  mailto:dri...@austin.rr.com dri...@austin.rr.com

Work:  mailto:david_r...@roundrockisd.org david_r...@roundrockisd.org

 

 

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2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us