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Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can regroup by 2015. L Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Amen, Brutha Woody! There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point. Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to our expectations. We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many of our years of Gator fandom: Wait 'til next year. :-/ Cee - Original Message - From: Woody Bass mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _ From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on therefs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football
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Yea... this wont be an easy turn around... driskell is supposed to be the real deal and fits what Meyer wants to do... but i doubt he starts as a Frosh. Alot of people think Brantley transfers after this year. On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Randy Lyons wrote: Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I’m hoping we can regroup by 2015. L Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Amen, Brutha Woody! There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point. Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to our expectations. We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many of our years of Gator fandom: Wait 'til next year. :-/ Cee - Original Message - From: Woody Bass To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman
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Hah! I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait 'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic. J Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this before Foley would get involved. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can regroup by 2015. L Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Amen, Brutha Woody! There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point. Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to our expectations. We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many of our years of Gator fandom: Wait 'til next year. :-/ Cee - Original Message - From: Woody Bass mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _ From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on therefs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National
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I agree with Rob. And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly. If I'm wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level of play next year. A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Hah! I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say ‘wait ‘till next year’. Saying wait ‘till next decade just sounds too pathetic. J Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this before Foley would get involved. Rob From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I’m hoping we can regroup by 2015. L Randy From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Amen, Brutha Woody! There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point. Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to our expectations. We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many of our years of Gator fandom: Wait 'til next year. :-/ Cee - Original Message - From:Woody Bass To:gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent:Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM Subject:Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS
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In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you use the word disgusting in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad shape. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble I agree with Rob. And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly. If I'm wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level of play next year. A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain _ From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Hah! I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait 'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic. J Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this before Foley would get involved. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can regroup by 2015. L Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Amen, Brutha Woody! There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point. Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to our expectations. We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many of our years of Gator fandom: Wait 'til next year. :-/ Cee - Original Message - From: Woody Bass mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _ From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on therefs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996
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One other perspective of this horrible season should be considered from Jerry's original question. He said, in light of expectations. If one considers the loss of two coaches, one of whom garnered incredible criticism while in Gainesville, 11 players who went on to play in the NFL, one arguably the best college football player in history, the rash of injuries and suspensions to speed athletes and the infusion of lots of inexperienced freshmen and red-shirt freshmen, why would anyone have expected the Gators to be eastern division champs before the start of the season? Yes, we were led to believe these freshmen were the second coming of the legendary four horsemen, but they are still inexperienced freshmen! Even Tebow didn't do that well his freshman season. We really expected too much from this team. Now, can it be fixed? What would you do, fire Meyer? As he said, he has resurrected 3 football programs in his career. Would you really expect John Brantley to transfer? Maybe he isn't Cam Newton, but if you could just get a decent running back to stay healthy and plan the offense around his drop back style he could be a lot more effective. I know, he played lousy yesterday, but the whole team gave up. Everybody did. I think the coaching staff will be able to fix things with the talent we have. And we the fans need to be more realistic about what to expect from this team. You can't just win it all every year. Look at Nick Satan! At the beginning of this season he was the answer to college football. He was the supreme commander. Where is he now? Does anyone here really Gene Chizik will sustain what's happening at Auburn? Gus Malzahn won't be able to save him next year when ole Cam is gone. Oh yes, we could get rid of Addazio. And, yes his play calling was unimaginative. But, I wonder if he might stick his neck out a little more on game day if Deonte isn't a threat to drop half of what's thrown to him. He has improved greatly this year. The team will improve in the off season. The sun will come up tomorrow. We'll be back on top. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:25 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you use the word disgusting in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad shape. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble I agree with Rob. And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly. If I'm wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level of play next year. A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain _ From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Hah! I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait 'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic. :-) Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this before Foley would get involved. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can regroup by 2015. :-( Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Amen, Brutha Woody! There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point. Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to our expectations. We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many of our years
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I agree, I've seen worst years in my Gator life and they always get better. Go Gators. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:21 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble One other perspective of this horrible season should be considered from Jerry's original question. He said, in light of expectations. If one considers the loss of two coaches, one of whom garnered incredible criticism while in Gainesville, 11 players who went on to play in the NFL, one arguably the best college football player in history, the rash of injuries and suspensions to speed athletes and the infusion of lots of inexperienced freshmen and red-shirt freshmen, why would anyone have expected the Gators to be eastern division champs before the start of the season? Yes, we were led to believe these freshmen were the second coming of the legendary four horsemen, but they are still inexperienced freshmen! Even Tebow didn't do that well his freshman season. We really expected too much from this team. Now, can it be fixed? What would you do, fire Meyer? As he said, he has resurrected 3 football programs in his career. Would you really expect John Brantley to transfer? Maybe he isn't Cam Newton, but if you could just get a decent running back to stay healthy and plan the offense around his drop back style he could be a lot more effective. I know, he played lousy yesterday, but the whole team gave up. Everybody did. I think the coaching staff will be able to fix things with the talent we have. And we the fans need to be more realistic about what to expect from this team. You can't just win it all every year. Look at Nick Satan! At the beginning of this season he was the answer to college football. He was the supreme commander. Where is he now? Does anyone here really Gene Chizik will sustain what's happening at Auburn? Gus Malzahn won't be able to save him next year when ole Cam is gone. Oh yes, we could get rid of Addazio. And, yes his play calling was unimaginative. But, I wonder if he might stick his neck out a little more on game day if Deonte isn't a threat to drop half of what's thrown to him. He has improved greatly this year. The team will improve in the off season. The sun will come up tomorrow. We'll be back on top. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:25 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you use the word disgusting in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad shape. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble I agree with Rob. And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly. If I'm wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level of play next year. A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain _ From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Hah! I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait 'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic. J Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get used to this feeling. I think it would take another full year like this before Foley would get involved. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can regroup by 2015. L Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re
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I try to keep the glass half full, Ran. - Original Message - From: Randy Lyons To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can regroup by 2015. L Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Amen, Brutha Woody! There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point. Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to our expectations. We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many of our years of Gator fandom: Wait 'til next year. :-/ Cee - Original Message - From: Woody Bass To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -- From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on therefs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007
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LOL. Good perspective, Robert. Anyone who was around in 1979 has seen the worst of the worst. Everything is better than that year. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Robert R. Williams, PLS To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble I agree, I've seen worst years in my Gator life and they always get better. Go Gators. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:21 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble One other perspective of this horrible season should be considered from Jerry's original question. He said, in light of expectations. If one considers the loss of two coaches, one of whom garnered incredible criticism while in Gainesville, 11 players who went on to play in the NFL, one arguably the best college football player in history, the rash of injuries and suspensions to speed athletes and the infusion of lots of inexperienced freshmen and red-shirt freshmen, why would anyone have expected the Gators to be eastern division champs before the start of the season? Yes, we were led to believe these freshmen were the second coming of the legendary four horsemen, but they are still inexperienced freshmen! Even Tebow didn't do that well his freshman season. We really expected too much from this team. Now, can it be fixed? What would you do, fire Meyer? As he said, he has resurrected 3 football programs in his career. Would you really expect John Brantley to transfer? Maybe he isn't Cam Newton, but if you could just get a decent running back to stay healthy and plan the offense around his drop back style he could be a lot more effective. I know, he played lousy yesterday, but the whole team gave up. Everybody did. I think the coaching staff will be able to fix things with the talent we have. And we the fans need to be more realistic about what to expect from this team. You can't just win it all every year. Look at Nick Satan! At the beginning of this season he was the answer to college football. He was the supreme commander. Where is he now? Does anyone here really Gene Chizik will sustain what's happening at Auburn? Gus Malzahn won't be able to save him next year when ole Cam is gone. Oh yes, we could get rid of Addazio. And, yes his play calling was unimaginative. But, I wonder if he might stick his neck out a little more on game day if Deonte isn't a threat to drop half of what's thrown to him. He has improved greatly this year. The team will improve in the off season. The sun will come up tomorrow. We'll be back on top. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 -- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:25 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you use the word disgusting in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad shape. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble I agree with Rob. And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly. If I'm wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level of play next year. A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain -- From: Rob Alexander wildeart...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Hah! I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait 'till next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic. J Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and leaves the coaching team intact, then we may
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Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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We went back several times to see where the roughing the snapper occurred. We could not determine what, exactly, it was. Things to ponder, I suppose...along with many other puzzling things about our team ( and the refs)!! Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:14, Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on therefs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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pIn college, you are not allowed to hit or touch the long snapper on a punt, he is allowed to snap and have a free run down the field. We must have touched him./p pOne of many things that went wrong this game. We didn't lose because of the refs. Did they fumble the ball? Did they call a 4th and dumb fake punt? Did they put in Brantely at the end of the hald after driving he whole field without him? NO!/p pGuess where the blame falls squarely at the feet of?brbrbr/p pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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pThank you, John for injecting some reality into this list.../p pFace it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching.brbrbr/p pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Jeez - can you guys (Scott and John) read? I specifically said that they DIDN'T need to steal the game from us because we were so bad. But I still think that we got screwed on a few calls. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: In college, you are not allowed to hit or touch the long snapper on a punt, he is allowed to snap and have a free run down the field. We must have touched him. One of many things that went wrong this game. We didn't lose because of the refs. Did they fumble the ball? Did they call a 4th and dumb fake punt? Did they put in Brantely at the end of the hald after driving he whole field without him? NO! Guess where the blame falls squarely at the feet of? Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:49:01 AM We went back several times to see where the roughing the snapper occurred. We could not determine what, exactly, it was. Things to ponder, I suppose...along with many other puzzling things about our team ( and the refs)!! Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:14, Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote:Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble?-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Oh I can read... but when you stink up the joint THAT bad... and you make MANY more bad calls than the ref dead, you really can't complain... From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 7:57:48 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Jeez - can you guys (Scott and John) read? I specifically said that they DIDN'T need to steal the game from us because we were so bad. But I still think that we got screwed on a few calls. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: In college, you are not allowed to hit or touch the long snapper on a punt, he is allowed to snap and have a free run down the field. We must have touched him. One of many things that went wrong this game. We didn't lose because of the refs. Did they fumble the ball? Did they call a 4th and dumb fake punt? Did they put in Brantely at the end of the hald after driving he whole field without him? NO! Guess where the blame falls squarely at the feet of? Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:49:01 AM We went back several times to see where the roughing the snapper occurred. We could not determine what, exactly, it was. Things to ponder, I suppose...along with many other puzzling things about our team ( and the refs)!! Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:14, Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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I don't remember ever calling you out Steve... I am sharing my comments just as your are. Perhaps the horrible loss has jaded you too much and you forgot the list rules yourself? From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:00:01 PM Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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For the record, I was truly curious about the call- trying to understand, and unsuccessfully trying to divert my attention from our horrible play. Didn't intend to create tension on the list. In all kinds of weather...Relax... Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:55, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Amen, Brutha Woody! There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point. Our team sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to our expectations. We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many of our years of Gator fandom: Wait 'til next year. :-/ Cee - Original Message - From: Woody Bass To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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I will drink (another) to that! Snowy here, which is unusual. Enjoying the USC game. 26-7 USC right now! Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 17:58, Jerry Belloit bell...@clarion.edu wrote: Well I want you all to know that my Pollyanna glasses are officially broken. Let’s all be angry with F$U instead of each other. In all kinds of weather… (It’s snowing and windy here!?!) Is it now officially Basketball season? Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:08 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006
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And I replied with the reasoning. I thought your question was completely valid. Many don't know that rule. In the pros, you can smack the hell out of the long snapper, but you cannot in college... From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 9:23:32 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble For the record, I was truly curious about the call- trying to understand, and unsuccessfully trying to divert my attention from our horrible play. Didn't intend to create tension on the list. In all kinds of weather...Relax... Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:55, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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If the refs had been in our pockets, we would have fumbled them away. You'll not be hearing me criticize anybody except our team for fear of being called a whining loser. Bad enough to be a loser. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com; jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 7:55:19 PM Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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An interesting tidbit. My dad, who was a long snapper in high school, was particularly surprised to learn this (he is up here visiting). My original question centered around our last fumble. We thought the play had been whistled dead. We wondered if any else thought that, too. Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 18:34, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: And I replied with the reasoning. I thought your question was completely valid. Many don't know that rule. In the pros, you can smack the hell out of the long snapper, but you cannot in college... From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 9:23:32 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble For the record, I was truly curious about the call- trying to understand, and unsuccessfully trying to divert my attention from our horrible play. Didn't intend to create tension on the list. In all kinds of weather...Relax... Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:55, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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pbr That is all too true, Leon. We can't blame the refs when we were so obviously bad./p pHate this feeling.../p pI hope Meyer can turn it around. I do NOT think he needs to go, but there needs to be some changes. After this season and the lack of change and adjustments, I wonder if he is ready and willing to try anything different/p pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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pbr Same as any play, the fumble is reviewable. They were not allowed to advance the fumbled ball because it was blown dead...brbrbrbr/p pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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You are right-on, Woody. Some of us saw it sonner, some later, but it's in clear focus now that the regular season is over. Paula and I were still able to enjoy our 'celebration dinner' of oysters tonight. We celebrated the end of this lousy season. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:07:41 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Your 6-1 Gator basketball teams plays FSU in Tallahassee tomorrow night at 7:30 pm. It is being broadcast by FSN/Sun Sports. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Jerry Belloit bell...@clarion.edu To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:58:41 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Well I want you all to know that my Pollyanna glasses are officially broken. Let’s all be angry with F$U instead of each other. In all kinds of weather… (It’s snowing and windy here!?!) Is it now officially Basketball season? Jerry From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:08 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE
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So it was blown dead after the fumble, not before? And why? Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 19:19, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: Same as any play, the fumble is reviewable. They were not allowed to advance the fumbled ball because it was blown dead... Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 3:11:37 AM An interesting tidbit. My dad, who was a long snapper in high school, was particularly surprised to learn this (he is up here visiting). My original question centered around our last fumble. We thought the play had been whistled dead. We wondered if any else thought that, too. Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 18:34, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: And I replied with the reasoning. I thought your question was completely valid. Many don't know that rule. In the pros, you can smack the hell out of the long snapper, but you cannot in college... From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 9:23:32 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble For the record, I was truly curious about the call- trying to understand, and unsuccessfully trying to divert my attention from our horrible play. Didn't intend to create tension on the list. In all kinds of weather...Relax... Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:55, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Where did you go for oysters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:29:42 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble You are right-on, Woody. Some of us saw it sonner, some later, but it's in clear focus now that the regular season is over. Paula and I were still able to enjoy our 'celebration dinner' of oysters tonight. We celebrated the end of this lousy season. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:07:41 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY
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Today womens basketball beat Navy. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:35:03 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Your 6-1 Gator basketball teams plays FSU in Tallahassee tomorrow night at 7:30 pm. It is being broadcast by FSN/Sun Sports. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Jerry Belloit bell...@clarion.edu To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:58:41 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Well I want you all to know that my Pollyanna glasses are officially broken. Let’s all be angry with F$U instead of each other. In all kinds of weather… (It’s snowing and windy here!?!) Is it now officially Basketball season? Jerry From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:08 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006
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p/p pOnly the refs can answer the why's, but it was blown dead but the fumble is reviewable, play stoppages due to whistles are not reviewable... so they reviewed, saw the fumble, gave to noles, but they could not advance due to the whistle./p pI do not think the whistle was blown far enough before the fumble to take the fumble off the table for review, if that is what you were asking.../p pJudgement calls... bad ones, but so were a lot of things tonightbr/p pSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android/p -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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I was thinking the same thing, Stacy, that it was blown dead. The replay wouldn't have picked up the whistle. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:38:33 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comgatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble So it was blown dead after the fumble, not before? And why? Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 19:19, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: Same as any play, the fumble is reviewable. They were not allowed to advance the fumbled ball because it was blown dead... Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 3:11:37 AM An interesting tidbit. My dad, who was a long snapper in high school, was particularly surprised to learn this (he is up here visiting). My original question centered around our last fumble. We thought the play had been whistled dead. We wondered if any else thought that, too. Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 18:34, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: And I replied with the reasoning. I thought your question was completely valid. Many don't know that rule. In the pros, you can smack the hell out of the long snapper, but you cannot in college... From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 9:23:32 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble For the record, I was truly curious about the call- trying to understand, and unsuccessfully trying to divert my attention from our horrible play. Didn't intend to create tension on the list. In all kinds of weather...Relax... Stacey Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:55, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim
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We went to a picnic table in the yard where we shucked them together. We ate them with saltines, lime juice and hot sauce after an apetizer of homemade drid lima bean soup (I made it yesterday from a left-over ham bone). The oysters are brought ito Gainesville fresh daily from Cedar Key and I buy them from the Winn-Dixie butcher at Main and 16th Avenue SW. They cost $8 for a tray of 25 in the shell. They are very large, flavorful and juicy. They also sell a smaller tray of 12 for $5. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: oli...@bobparks.com oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:42:13 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Where did you go for oysters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:29:42 -0800 (PST) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble You are right-on, Woody. Some of us saw it sonner, some later, but it's in clear focus now that the regular season is over. Paula and I were still able to enjoy our 'celebration dinner' of oysters tonight. We celebrated the end of this lousy season. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:07:41 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996
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Yes, and volleyball went undefeated in the SEC and is going to the NCAA tournament. I've ordered my baseball season tickets and expect to go to the College World Series again. Women's softball should be outstanding again, as well. Men's basketball is 6-1. We have a lot to cheer for as Gators. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: oli...@bobparks.com oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:43:45 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Today womens basketball beat Navy. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:35:03 -0800 (PST) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Your 6-1 Gator basketball teams plays FSU in Tallahassee tomorrow night at 7:30 pm. It is being broadcast by FSN/Sun Sports. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Jerry Belloit bell...@clarion.edu To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:58:41 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Well I want you all to know that my Pollyanna glasses are officially broken. Let’s all be angry with F$U instead of each other. In all kinds of weather… (It’s snowing and windy here!?!) Is it now officially Basketball season? Jerry From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:08 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball
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Sounds good. I thought they might have come from the Gulf. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:08:47 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble We went to a picnic table in the yard where we shucked them together. We ate them with saltines, lime juice and hot sauce after an apetizer of homemade drid lima bean soup (I made it yesterday from a left-over ham bone). The oysters are brought ito Gainesville fresh daily from Cedar Key and I buy them from the Winn-Dixie butcher at Main and 16th Avenue SW. They cost $8 for a tray of 25 in the shell. They are very large, flavorful and juicy. They also sell a smaller tray of 12 for $5. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: oli...@bobparks.com oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:42:13 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Where did you go for oysters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:29:42 -0800 (PST) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble You are right-on, Woody. Some of us saw it sonner, some later, but it's in clear focus now that the regular season is over. Paula and I were still able to enjoy our 'celebration dinner' of oysters tonight. We celebrated the end of this lousy season. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:07:41 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007
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Yummy!!! Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 20:08, Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote: We went to a picnic table in the yard where we shucked them together. We ate them with saltines, lime juice and hot sauce after an apetizer of homemade drid lima bean soup (I made it yesterday from a left-over ham bone). The oysters are brought ito Gainesville fresh daily from Cedar Key and I buy them from the Winn-Dixie butcher at Main and 16th Avenue SW. They cost $8 for a tray of 25 in the shell. They are very large, flavorful and juicy. They also sell a smaller tray of 12 for $5. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: oli...@bobparks.com oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:42:13 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Where did you go for oysters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:29:42 -0800 (PST) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble You are right-on, Woody. Some of us saw it sonner, some later, but it's in clear focus now that the regular season is over. Paula and I were still able to enjoy our 'celebration dinner' of oysters tonight. We celebrated the end of this lousy season. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:07:41 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National
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Simple Florida southern goodness! A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 11:34:35 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Yummy!!! Sent from Gator Goddess' iPhone On Nov 27, 2010, at 20:08, Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote: We went to a picnic table in the yard where we shucked them together. We ate them with saltines, lime juice and hot sauce after an apetizer of homemade drid lima bean soup (I made it yesterday from a left-over ham bone). The oysters are brought ito Gainesville fresh daily from Cedar Key and I buy them from the Winn-Dixie butcher at Main and 16th Avenue SW. They cost $8 for a tray of 25 in the shell. They are very large, flavorful and juicy. They also sell a smaller tray of 12 for $5. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: oli...@bobparks.com oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:42:13 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Where did you go for oysters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:29:42 -0800 (PST) To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble You are right-on, Woody. Some of us saw it sonner, some later, but it's in clear focus now that the regular season is over. Paula and I were still able to enjoy our 'celebration dinner' of oysters tonight. We celebrated the end of this lousy season. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 8:07:41 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble oh everyone Chill out. Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). we just have to move on from here. After the first few games... I dont think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be) On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Try injecting a little reading comprehension. Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we are. Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season was still young. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble To: Gator Talk gatortalk@googlegroups.com, jbowe...@cfl.rr.com jbowe...@cfl.rr.com Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list... Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Bowers jbowe...@cfl.rr.com; To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and you're putting a modicum of blame on the……..refs? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble Don't put anything past a crew that; Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then; Failed to call anything under the exact same circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he fumbled, then; Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the history of the game - roughing the snapper. --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride nwwines...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any action after the whistle, like the fumble? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National
