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This ought to really help Houston Nutt's recruiting efforts.. We cannot even appear to support those outside our community who advocate a revival of segregation, Jones wrote to the Ole Miss student body. Consequently, I have asked the band not to play 'From Dixie with Love' at upcoming athletics events. The absence of this song will send a clear message that the university is neither facilitating nor indirectly condoning the chant. In response, the Klan plans to rally in full robes. Barbara Lago, director of PR at Ole Miss, confirmed to the Reveille that Ole Miss has been contacted by the KKK and that the group has the right to a peaceful protest. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Moving on is hard for some folks. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 8:27:59 AM Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This ought to really help Houston Nutt's recruiting efforts.. “We cannot even appear to support those outside our community who advocate a revival of segregation,” Jones wrote to the Ole Miss student body. “Consequently, I have asked the band not to play ‘From Dixie with Love’ at upcoming athletics events. The absence of this song will send a clear message that the university is neither facilitating nor indirectly condoning the chant.” In response, the Klan plans to rally in full robes. Barbara Lago, director of PR at Ole Miss, confirmed to the Reveille that Ole Miss has been contacted by the KKK and that the group has the right to a peaceful protest. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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When has FIU beaten UF? It hasn't had a program that long, and I don't recall it ever fielding a strong team. -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Mario Cristobal's Panthers are in way over their heads in this one, as the team has struggled to a 3-7 record thus far, including a 3-4 mark in Sun Belt Conference play. However, the team has played well of late, posting two wins in the last three outings, including a 35-28 decision over North Texas this past weekend. Florida has won 13 of the 14 meetings between these two teams, -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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UF and FIU have never played each other in football before. The FIU program's first year of play was in 2002/ --- On Thu, 11/19/09, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: When has FIU beaten UF? It hasn't had a program that long, and I don't recall it ever fielding a strong team. -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Mario Cristobal's Panthers are in way over their heads in this one, as the team has struggled to a 3-7 record thus far, including a 3-4 mark in Sun Belt Conference play. However, the team has played well of late, posting two wins in the last three outings, including a 35-28 decision over North Texas this past weekend.Florida has won 13 of the 14 meetings between these two teams, -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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I wonder where this 13 of 14 stat came from, then. Basketball, maybe? -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: UF and FIU have never played each other in football before. The FIU program's first year of play was in 2002/ --- On Thu, 11/19/09, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: When has FIU beaten UF? It hasn't had a program that long, and I don't recall it ever fielding a strong team. -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Mario Cristobal's Panthers are in way over their heads in this one, as the team has struggled to a 3-7 record thus far, including a 3-4 mark in Sun Belt Conference play. However, the team has played well of late, posting two wins in the last three outings, including a 35-28 decision over North Texas this past weekend. Florida has won 13 of the 14 meetings between these two teams, -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Bad, lazy reporting from a know-nothing? Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: John Vega zebu...@gate.net Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:33:24 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I wonder where this 13 of 14 stat came from, then. Basketball, maybe? -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: UF and FIU have never played each other in football before. The FIU program's first year of play was in 2002/ --- On Thu, 11/19/09, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: When has FIU beaten UF? It hasn't had a program that long, and I don't recall it ever fielding a strong team. -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Mario Cristobal's Panthers are in way over their heads in this one, as the team has struggled to a 3-7 record thus far, including a 3-4 mark in Sun Belt Conference play. However, the team has played well of late, posting two wins in the last three outings, including a 35-28 decision over North Texas this past weekend. Florida has won 13 of the 14 meetings between these two teams, -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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A better question might be: when has UF ever played FIU in football. As far as I can determine the answer is NEVER. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: John Vega zebu...@gate.net To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 10:26:00 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator When has FIU beaten UF? It hasn't had a program that long, and I don't recall it ever fielding a strong team. -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Mario Cristobal's Panthers are in way over their heads in this one, as the team has struggled to a 3-7 record thus far, including a 3-4 mark in Sun Belt Conference play. However, the team has played well of late, posting two wins in the last three outings, including a 35-28 decision over North Texas this past weekend. Florida has won 13 of the 14 meetings between these two teams, -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Maybe they are referring to the record between Florida International and North Texas. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:26 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: When has FIU beaten UF? It hasn't had a program that long, and I don't recall it ever fielding a strong team. -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Mario Cristobal's Panthers are in way over their heads in this one, as the team has struggled to a 3-7 record thus far, including a 3-4 mark in Sun Belt Conference play. However, the team has played well of late, posting two wins in the last three outings, including a 35-28 decision over North Texas this past weekend. Florida has won 13 of the 14 meetings between these two teams, -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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FIU has played North Texas 5 times and stand 3-2. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Helen Huntley hhsga...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 10:53:17 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Maybe they are referring to the record between Florida International and North Texas. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:26 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: When has FIU beaten UF? It hasn't had a program that long, and I don't recall it ever fielding a strong team. -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Mario Cristobal's Panthers are in way over their heads in this one, as the team has struggled to a 3-7 record thus far, including a 3-4 mark in Sun Belt Conference play. However, the team has played well of late, posting two wins in the last three outings, including a 35-28 decision over North Texas this past weekend. Florida has won 13 of the 14 meetings between these two teams, -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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There still wouldn't have been enough time for them to play each other that many times if FIU's program just started in 2002. Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Maybe they are referring to the record between Florida International and North Texas. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:26 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: When has FIU beaten UF? It hasn't had a program that long, and I don't recall it ever fielding a strong team. -Zeb On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Mario Cristobal's Panthers are in way over their heads in this one, as the team has struggled to a 3-7 record thus far, including a 3-4 mark in Sun Belt Conference play. However, the team has played well of late, posting two wins in the last three outings, including a 35-28 decision over North Texas this past weekend. Florida has won 13 of the 14 meetings between these two teams, -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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As if we were worried about f$u? NOT! Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:57 AM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator --snip, snip, snip-- Florida Gators' season just got easier; Florida State QB Christian Ponder done for the season Unfortunate news out of Tallahassee on Monday morning. According to FSU, quarterback Christian Ponder is done for the season after injuring his shoulder against Clemson. We hate this for Ponder and hope he recovers fully and makes a ton of money in the NFL. What does this mean for the Florida Gators? Well, the season just got easier. Win against South Carolina on Saturday and Florida can set the cruise control for Atlanta and the Gators' Dec.5 date with Alabama in the SEC championship game. Ponder separated his shoulder making a tackle against Clemson and the injury requires surgery. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Let's not forget that we need to get past South Carolina first. - Original Message - From: Juno Gator mailto:broadreach...@earthlink.net To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:57 AM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator --snip, snip, snip-- Florida Gators' season just got easier; Florida State QB Christian Ponder done for the season Unfortunate news out of Tallahassee on Monday morning. According to FSU, quarterback Christian Ponder is done for the season after injuring his shoulder against Clemson. We hate this for Ponder and hope he recovers fully and makes a ton of money in the NFL. What does this mean for the Florida Gators? Well, the season just got easier. Win against South Carolina on Saturday and Florida can set the cruise control for Atlanta and the Gators' Dec.5 date with Alabama in the SEC championship game. Ponder separated his shoulder making a tackle against Clemson and the injury requires surgery. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I'm enjoying both of your perspectives. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Rob Alexander ga...@wldrth.us To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 12:11:12 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Easy boy, it’s called an analogy. I’m not calling him incompetent, I’m saying he’s inexperienced as an OC calling plays, which he most certainly is.. I was commenting on a specific theory that maybe we’re holding back our ‘real’ offense in a clever ploy to hide our plays from future competition. I don’t agree. My point is that you don’t have to look for sneaky behavior when a simple and obvious explanation exists. Now you may object to my entire premise, citing our 9-0 record, but I maintain that we’re 9-0 largely because of our defense and that this offense has not yet come close to meeting its potential (except, perhaps, in the Georgia game). I also believe that play-calling has a lot to do with that. Meyer obviously agrees since every offensive change he suggested they would employ after the MSU game involved a change in play-calling. I’m happy we’re undefeated, but I would be happier still if our offense were playing to their potential. We’ll need that to beat Alabama and Texas. For the record, I’m not unhappy or disgruntled, nor am I complaining. These are amazing times to be a Gator and I’m having a great time this season. I’m just objectively discussing the strengths and weaknesses of our team, something fans have done as long as sports have existed. I guess we could all limit our comments to ‘Go Gators’ all week, but I’ve always enjoyed a little more depth in discussions. Rob P.S. Go Gators! From:gatort...@googlegroups..com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:55 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Well, in one little stat, that is won/loss the new inexperienced and incompetent offensive line coach is 9-0. Mullen never accomplished that. Let’s get rid of that idiot and get someone in there who can throw the ball around. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:11 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is such wishful thinking… It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren’t holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one. As was already pointed out, it would backfire as a plan anyway because you must practice these skills to get good at them. If they did hold back the ‘real’ offense all season, they’d be unable to run it effectively in the post-season anyway. Like Mullen before him, Addazio will improve over time. Rob From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From:Gatornet Admin To:GatorTalk Sent:Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM Subject:[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give
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Looks like Meyer agrees with Rob. I don't really care what the problem is as long as we can score enough points to win. Sure, an exciting RUTS blowout would be fun, but at the end of the day, a win is what we're after. Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:57 AM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator ---snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators missing big bite on offense By BEN VOLIN Palm Beach Post Staff Writer GAINESVILLE - Urban Meyer finally figured out what's ailing the Florida offense: everything. I think it's coaching transition. I think it's execution. I think it's also some new players in new positions, the Florida coach said Monday. ---snip, snip, snip--- The Gators also have scored a touchdown inside the Red Zone just 30 percent of the time, down from 73 percent last year. ---snip, snip, snip--- Meyer said factors holding the Gators back include: · The transition from Dan Mullen to Steve Addazio at offensive coordinator - plus introducing two other new coaches on the offensive staff - has not been as smooth as expected. · Percy Harvin and Louis Murphy, who are playing in the NFL, have been difficult to replace. · The losses of both starting tackles, Jason Watkins and Phil Trautwein, were underestimated. · Opposing defenses are using formations and alignments UF has never seen. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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THAT'S the one I am worried about. You can NEVER, let me emphasize that, NEVER underestimate Steve Spurrier. He and Saban are the only SEC coaches I worry about. I used to worry about Mark Richt, as well, but not as much anymore. Randy - Original Message - From: Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Let's not forget that we need to get past South Carolina first. - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:57 AM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator --snip, snip, snip-- Florida Gators' season just got easier; Florida State QB Christian Ponder done for the season Unfortunate news out of Tallahassee on Monday morning. According to FSU, quarterback Christian Ponder is done for the season after injuring his shoulder against Clemson. We hate this for Ponder and hope he recovers fully and makes a ton of money in the NFL. What does this mean for the Florida Gators? Well, the season just got easier. Win against South Carolina on Saturday and Florida can set the cruise control for Atlanta and the Gators' Dec.5 date with Alabama in the SEC championship game. Ponder separated his shoulder making a tackle against Clemson and the injury requires surgery. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Charlie wrote: to suggest improvement was needed in certain aspects of the game was often treated as heresy and with derision. True you can't have a better record than undefeated but it is possible to have weak points that need correction. I love the Gators to death but I still like to have an honest discussion about weak and strong points. Preach on, brother! -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Gatornet Admin wrote: Yes, he is. I'm still trying to figure out which one. ;-) My first guess, of course, would be the pimp in the Starsky and Hutch movie. Or maybe one of the munchkins in the Wizard of Oz. So many possibilities... Professor Hubert Farnsworth? -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Yeah, I gave Urban a call and asked him to say that. I said I had this discussion going and it would really help me out if he'd make those points. :-)Seriously, though, I've given some thought to why I care how the offense plays even when we get the win. Here's today's theory. I look at the skill of these players and I realize that I enjoy watching them play their sport in the same way I enjoy watching a talented dancer or skater, or the way I enjoy listening to a great rock band or orchestra. It's enjoyable to watch the very best performers of any type perform at their best. For example, I could watch that one-handed touchdown catch that Cooper made last week over and over again. It was a thing of beauty. So when this unbelievably talented offense looks sloppy instead of precise, it's just not quite as much fun. Of course winning is still the main thing, and I really would take a sloppy win over a pretty loss, but I also just want to watch amazing athletes do amazing things. It's part of what I enjoy about watching any sport. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:20 AM To: gatortalk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Looks like Meyer agrees with Rob. I don't really care what the problem is as long as we can score enough points to win. Sure, an exciting RUTS blowout would be fun, but at the end of the day, a win is what we're after. Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator mailto:broadreach...@earthlink.net To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:57 AM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator ---snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators missing big bite on offense By BEN VOLIN mailto:ben_vo...@pbpost.com Palm Beach Post Staff Writer GAINESVILLE - Urban Meyer finally figured out what's ailing the Florida offense: everything. I think it's coaching transition. I think it's execution. I think it's also some new players in new positions, the Florida coach said Monday. ---snip, snip, snip--- The Gators also have scored a touchdown inside the Red Zone just 30 percent of the time, down from 73 percent last year. ---snip, snip, snip--- Meyer said factors holding the Gators back include: . The transition from Dan Mullen to Steve Addazio at offensive coordinator - plus introducing two other new coaches on the offensive staff - has not been as smooth as expected. . Percy Harvin and Louis Murphy, who are playing in the NFL, have been difficult to replace. . The losses of both starting tackles, Jason Watkins and Phil Trautwein, were underestimated. . Opposing defenses are using formations and alignments UF has never seen. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Must be those Pollyanna glasses Oliver sold me. :-) Randy - Original Message - From: Rob Alexander To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is such wishful thinking. It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren't holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one. As was already pointed out, it would backfire as a plan anyway because you must practice these skills to get good at them. If they did hold back the 'real' offense all season, they'd be unable to run it effectively in the post-season anyway. Like Mullen before him, Addazio will improve over time. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin To: GatorTalk Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there? Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers? snip, snip, snip--- Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3 snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle snip, snip, snip--- Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators' win over Vanderbilt was 'ho-hum' BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Well, in one little stat, that is won/loss the new inexperienced and incompetent offensive line coach is 9-0. Mullen never accomplished that. Let's get rid of that idiot and get someone in there who can throw the ball around. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:11 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is such wishful thinking. It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren't holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one. As was already pointed out, it would backfire as a plan anyway because you must practice these skills to get good at them. If they did hold back the 'real' offense all season, they'd be unable to run it effectively in the post-season anyway. Like Mullen before him, Addazio will improve over time. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin mailto:gator...@comcast.net To: GatorTalk mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there? Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers? snip, snip, snip--- Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3 snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle snip, snip, snip--- Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators' win over Vanderbilt was 'ho-hum' BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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We're terrible!! Only 19-0 since last season. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:58 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Must be those Pollyanna glasses Oliver sold me. :-) Randy - Original Message - From: Rob Alexander mailto:ga...@wldrth.us To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is such wishful thinking. It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren't holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one. As was already pointed out, it would backfire as a plan anyway because you must practice these skills to get good at them. If they did hold back the 'real' offense all season, they'd be unable to run it effectively in the post-season anyway. Like Mullen before him, Addazio will improve over time. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin mailto:gator...@comcast.net To: GatorTalk mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there? Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers? snip, snip, snip--- Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3 snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle snip, snip, snip--- Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators' win over Vanderbilt was 'ho-hum' BR BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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On Nov 8, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Rob Alexander wrote: This is such wishful thinking… It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren’t holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one Perhaps it is also wishful thinking, but it appears to me that Meyer purposely throttles back once the game is in hand. It's a good coaching strategy - why try run up the points (and risk interceptions), when the game is already won? Against a lesser opponent, he eases up earlier than a dangerous opponent. Even the playcalling is a little more conservative right out of the gate. We were plain vanilla against Vandy, and will be again against FIU. That will make those teams appear better than they are. So be it. Without margin of victory in the computer polls, there is less to be gained by winning big. Call it conservatism, or consider it sportsmanship, but Meyer knows when his opponent is beat and calls off the dogs. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Always an astute observer...Go Oliver. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 10:54:39 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Well, in one little stat, that is won/loss the new inexperienced and incompetent offensive line coach is 9-0. Mullen never accomplished that. Let’s get rid of that idiot and get someone in there who can throw the ball around. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:11 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is such wishful thinking… It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren’t holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one. As was already pointed out, it would backfire as a plan anyway because you must practice these skills to get good at them. If they did hold back the ‘real’ offense all season, they’d be unable to run it effectively in the post-season anyway. Like Mullen before him, Addazio will improve over time. Rob From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From:Gatornet Admin To:GatorTalk Sent:Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM Subject:[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it.. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there? Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers? snip, snip, snip--- Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3 snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle snip, snip, snip--- Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators’ win over Vanderbilt was ‘ho-hum’ BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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There must be a ton of new ones, John. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: John Vega zebu...@gate.net To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 11:04:18 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Vanderbilt, like Tennessee seemed to slow down their offense as the game wore on. They seemed almost happy to get a loss of less than 50 points. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:12 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator On Nov 8, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Rob Alexander wrote: This is such wishful thinking. It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren't holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one Perhaps it is also wishful thinking, but it appears to me that Meyer purposely throttles back once the game is in hand. It's a good coaching strategy - why try run up the points (and risk interceptions), when the game is already won? Against a lesser opponent, he eases up earlier than a dangerous opponent. Even the playcalling is a little more conservative right out of the gate. We were plain vanilla against Vandy, and will be again against FIU. That will make those teams appear better than they are. So be it. Without margin of victory in the computer polls, there is less to be gained by winning big. Call it conservatism, or consider it sportsmanship, but Meyer knows when his opponent is beat and calls off the dogs. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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You may be onto something there. Personally, I'm thrilled to beat an SEC team (ANY SEC team) 27-3. The only guy at church last night who agreed with me was a Bama fan. All of the Vol fans thought if we (gators) didn't beat Vandy by at least 45 points, then we were in trouble. Randy - Original Message - From: John Vega To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I believe this was another Vol moral victory! A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 11:11:36 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator You may be onto something there. Personally, I'm thrilled to beat an SEC team (ANY SEC team) 27-3. The only guy at church last night who agreed with me was a Bama fan. All of the Vol fans thought if we (gators) didn't beat Vandy by at least 45 points, then we were in trouble. Randy - Original Message - From: John Vega To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No..1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Vanderbilt seems to be using it as a moral victory too. Vols hate Vanderbilt. I don't understand why, because they're no match in football. That's probably some of what you're hearing from them, Randy. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:45 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I believe this was another Vol moral victory! A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. _ From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 11:11:36 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator You may be onto something there. Personally, I'm thrilled to beat an SEC team (ANY SEC team) 27-3. The only guy at church last night who agreed with me was a Bama fan. All of the Vol fans thought if we (gators) didn't beat Vandy by at least 45 points, then we were in trouble. Randy - Original Message - From: John Vega mailto:zebu...@gate.net To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all *most* of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I know you are right, Helen. The fans are expecting another BCS National Championship and are holding their breath until that happens. Nothing will be good enough until then. Wasn't it more fun when we weren't so good? A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Helen Huntley hhsga...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:39:30 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I think you are right...either he is doing that or he has a few gator friends who are cribbing! On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all *most* of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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We (I mean our section!) weren't subdued at all.at least in the first 2 quartersbut I did hear a lot of frustrated comments about no-creativity offense at all...but again, we all were shouting loud...even though some parts of the stadium became a bit chilly (you know...the tunneling effect that blows cold air on your face!) I also thought that a lot of the times, TT didn't have enough time scan for open receivers (I am not saying there were open wide outs all the time...). On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Helen Huntley hhsga...@gmail.com wrote: Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all *most* of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Helen Huntley wrote: We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Any year we beat Georgia is a great year! -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Yeah, just think of all the fun the vols and dawgs are having right now! ;-) Mackenzie Adams sure seemed to be enjoying himself Sat night, didn't he? Randy - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I know you are right, Helen. The fans are expecting another BCS National Championship and are holding their breath until that happens. Nothing will be good enough until then. Wasn't it more fun when we weren't so good? A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. -- From: Helen Huntley hhsga...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:39:30 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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No, it wasn't. It's much more fun now. When you get Bama fans so intimidated they think they've got to taunt you about the upcoming SECCG, that's fun! That's just one of many reasons it's more fun to be a winner. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:51 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I know you are right, Helen. The fans are expecting another BCS National Championship and are holding their breath until that happens. Nothing will be good enough until then. Wasn't it more fun when we weren't so good? A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. _ From: Helen Huntley hhsga...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:39:30 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Amen!! :-) Just ran into a Georgia fan acquaintance at lunch. I hadn't seen him since the big whippin', He started laughing and trying to give me heck about Meyer getting fined. I said, Yes, it's terrible, but the butt whippin' we put on ya'll made it worth it. He gave me a we're no. 1 salute and that was the end of the conversation. :-) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:03 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Helen Huntley wrote: We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Any year we beat Georgia is a great year! -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I thought you were concerned that The Urban One was withholding? A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:30:52 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Yeah, just think of all the fun the vols and dawgs are having right now! ;-) Mackenzie Adams sure seemed to be enjoying himself Sat night, didn't he? Randy - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I know you are right, Helen. The fans are expecting another BCS National Championship and are holding their breath until that happens. Nothing will be good enough until then. Wasn't it more fun when we weren't so good? A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Helen Huntley hhsga...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:39:30 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I didn't think the crowd was particularly subdued, but I think it's perfectly natural not to get riled up quite so much for Vandy as we would for some other more threatening opponent. Quite frankly, I was COLD so I was trying to jump around as much as possible. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I saw you jumping around and I still could not get excited. My problem. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:10:44 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I didn't think the crowd was particularly subdued, but I think it's perfectly natural not to get riled up quite so much for Vandy as we would for some other more threatening opponent. Quite frankly, I was COLD so I was trying to jump around as much as possible. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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LOL. Leon, you're a character. Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I saw you jumping around and I still could not get excited. My problem. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. -- From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:10:44 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I didn't think the crowd was particularly subdued, but I think it's perfectly natural not to get riled up quite so much for Vandy as we would for some other more threatening opponent. Quite frankly, I was COLD so I was trying to jump around as much as possible. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Like I said: my problem. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatort...@googlegroups..com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:21:29 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator LOL. Leon, you're a character. Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I saw you jumping around and I still could not get excited. My problem. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:10:44 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I didn't think the crowd was particularly subdued, but I think it's perfectly natural not to get riled up quite so much for Vandy as we would for some other more threatening opponent. Quite frankly, I was COLD so I was trying to jump around as much as possible. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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No, if you will recall, I was the one wearing the large, unattractive but very effective Pollyanna glasses purchased at the Pollyanna Gear by Oliver web site. I'm thrilled to be 9-0, SEC East Champions, headed to the SECCG and possibly the NC. I said that I was thinking maybe we had become the Masters of the Vanilla Offense. It was meant as a compliment to Meyer and Co. for not giving Saban and Mack Brown any good tape to watch. However, as it was pointed out, there is already enough tape out there of our offense that we don't need to throttle it down on purpose. Therefore, color me clueless, but unconcerned. Randy - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I thought you were concerned that The Urban One was withholding? A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. -- From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:30:52 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Yeah, just think of all the fun the vols and dawgs are having right now! ;-) Mackenzie Adams sure seemed to be enjoying himself Sat night, didn't he? Randy - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I know you are right, Helen. The fans are expecting another BCS National Championship and are holding their breath until that happens. Nothing will be good enough until then. Wasn't it more fun when we weren't so good? A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Helen Huntley hhsga...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:39:30 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Yes, he is. I'm still trying to figure out which one. ;-) My first guess, of course, would be the pimp in the Starsky and Hutch movie. Or maybe one of the munchkins in the Wizard of Oz. So many possibilities... Randy - Original Message - From: Cecilia To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator LOL. Leon, you're a character. Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I saw you jumping around and I still could not get excited. My problem. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:10:44 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I didn't think the crowd was particularly subdued, but I think it's perfectly natural not to get riled up quite so much for Vandy as we would for some other more threatening opponent. Quite frankly, I was COLD so I was trying to jump around as much as possible. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Not even close, Wilsky. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:24:56 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Yes, he is. I'm still trying to figure out which one. ;-) My first guess, of course, would be the pimp in the Starsky and Hutch movie. Or maybe one of the munchkins in the Wizard of Oz. So many possibilities... Randy - Original Message - From: Cecilia To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator LOL. Leon, you're a character. Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I saw you jumping around and I still could not get excited. My problem. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:10:44 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I didn't think the crowd was particularly subdued, but I think it's perfectly natural not to get riled up quite so much for Vandy as we would for some other more threatening opponent. Quite frankly, I was COLD so I was trying to jump around as much as possible. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued.. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Ok, was it Mrs. Robinson? No, couldn't be that one. You'd have to shave your legs. Randy - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Not even close, Wilsky. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. -- From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:24:56 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Yes, he is. I'm still trying to figure out which one. ;-) My first guess, of course, would be the pimp in the Starsky and Hutch movie. Or maybe one of the munchkins in the Wizard of Oz. So many possibilities... Randy - Original Message - From: Cecilia To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator LOL. Leon, you're a character. Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I saw you jumping around and I still could not get excited. My problem. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. -- From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:10:44 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I didn't think the crowd was particularly subdued, but I think it's perfectly natural not to get riled up quite so much for Vandy as we would for some other more threatening opponent. Quite frankly, I was COLD so I was trying to jump around as much as possible. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions
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I meant Willsky. Sorry... A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 7:23:48 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, was it Mrs. Robinson? No, couldn't be that one. You'd have to shave your legs. Randy - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Not even close, Wilsky. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:24:56 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Yes, he is. I'm still trying to figure out which one. ;-) My first guess, of course, would be the pimp in the Starsky and Hutch movie. Or maybe one of the munchkins in the Wizard of Oz. So many possibilities... Randy - Original Message - From: Cecilia To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator LOL. Leon, you're a character. Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I saw you jumping around and I still could not get excited. My problem. A. Leon Polhill, Gator Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:10:44 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator I didn't think the crowd was particularly subdued, but I think it's perfectly natural not to get riled up quite so much for Vandy as we would for some other more threatening opponent.. Quite frankly, I was COLD so I was trying to jump around as much as possible. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Gator fans want another national championship, expectations having been raised by last year's performance, Tebow and Spikes coming back, the polls, media etc. I don't hear fans complaining so much as worrying that the grand national championship plan will not come to fruition if the offense doesn't start performing better. What I hear on this list is not different from what I hear from other Gator fans. I was not at the Swamp Saturday, but the TV announcers repeatedly commented on the crowd being subdued. Maybe some of you who were there would have some take on that. Maybe we fans are uptight and anxious like the team: we're making them anxious and they're making us anxious. We do need to put it in perspective, of course. Any year the Gators get to go to SEC championship is a great year. Helen On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: This is strange. I don't read or hear a lot of complaining. Heck, I'm thrilled. Is something reading the message boards and thinking that a few cranks speak for the entire GatorNation? Heck, a lot of those posters are fans of opposing teams, and post only to create a tempest in a teapot. Our coach seems to be buying into a perceived negativity. Is it coming from the sportswriters? I don't know any long time fans that are unhappy. -Zeb On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Florida is the defending national champion, the winner of two national titles in three seasons, currently ranked No.1 in the Bowl Championship Series standings, led by a quarterback who will go down in history as one of the greatest college football players ever to play the game, winners of 19 straight games, winners of the SEC Eastern Division for the second straight season and coached by a man many consider to be the best in the business. But and on Sunday -- a day after defeating Vanderbilt 27-3 -- all most of you can do is focus your thoughts on details that are, in the end, meaningless. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National
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Easy boy, it's called an analogy. I'm not calling him incompetent, I'm saying he's inexperienced as an OC calling plays, which he most certainly is. I was commenting on a specific theory that maybe we're holding back our 'real' offense in a clever ploy to hide our plays from future competition. I don't agree. My point is that you don't have to look for sneaky behavior when a simple and obvious explanation exists. Now you may object to my entire premise, citing our 9-0 record, but I maintain that we're 9-0 largely because of our defense and that this offense has not yet come close to meeting its potential (except, perhaps, in the Georgia game). I also believe that play-calling has a lot to do with that. Meyer obviously agrees since every offensive change he suggested they would employ after the MSU game involved a change in play-calling. I'm happy we're undefeated, but I would be happier still if our offense were playing to their potential. We'll need that to beat Alabama and Texas. For the record, I'm not unhappy or disgruntled, nor am I complaining. These are amazing times to be a Gator and I'm having a great time this season. I'm just objectively discussing the strengths and weaknesses of our team, something fans have done as long as sports have existed. I guess we could all limit our comments to 'Go Gators' all week, but I've always enjoyed a little more depth in discussions. Rob P.S. Go Gators! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:55 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Well, in one little stat, that is won/loss the new inexperienced and incompetent offensive line coach is 9-0. Mullen never accomplished that. Let's get rid of that idiot and get someone in there who can throw the ball around. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:11 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is such wishful thinking. It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren't holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one. As was already pointed out, it would backfire as a plan anyway because you must practice these skills to get good at them. If they did hold back the 'real' offense all season, they'd be unable to run it effectively in the post-season anyway. Like Mullen before him, Addazio will improve over time. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin mailto:gator...@comcast.net To: GatorTalk mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare
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Interesting point, Zeb. I think there's no question, but that a good coach does that and Meyer is a great coach. We see his conservative background in the way he directs the games. I think the difference this year is in the interaction between him and Addazio. I recall several times last year Meyer saying that Mullen talked him into playing less conservatively than he wanted to. Is it possible that a hard-hitting offensive line coach is also conservative and doesn't provide the same balance? We opened it up against Georgia, but we didn't open it up against Arkansas when we really needed to so I don't think it's all planned. I still think it's a learning year for Addazio and that he and Meyer just need time and experience working together to be as smooth as he and Mullen used to be. I recall in the first couple of years Mullen was OC that we weren't all completely happy with the offense either, but then it all settled in over a couple of years. I fully expect the same to happen with Addazio. In the meantime, we've done what we needed to so far. I just hope we can pick it up when we really need to against Alabama. Their defense is comparable to our own so we'll need to outplay them on offense to win that one. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:12 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator On Nov 8, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Rob Alexander wrote: This is such wishful thinking. It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren't holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one Perhaps it is also wishful thinking, but it appears to me that Meyer purposely throttles back once the game is in hand. It's a good coaching strategy - why try run up the points (and risk interceptions), when the game is already won? Against a lesser opponent, he eases up earlier than a dangerous opponent. Even the playcalling is a little more conservative right out of the gate. We were plain vanilla against Vandy, and will be again against FIU. That will make those teams appear better than they are. So be it. Without margin of victory in the computer polls, there is less to be gained by winning big. Call it conservatism, or consider it sportsmanship, but Meyer knows when his opponent is beat and calls off the dogs. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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One of the reasons I quit Gator Country (other than financial) was it seemed as though the undefeated record trumped everything else and to suggest improvement was needed in certain aspects of the game was often treated as heresy and with derision. True you can't have a better record than undefeated but it is possible to have weak points that need correction. I love the Gators to death but I still like to have an honest discussion about weak and strong points. Charlie _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:11 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Easy boy, it's called an analogy. I'm not calling him incompetent, I'm saying he's inexperienced as an OC calling plays, which he most certainly is. I was commenting on a specific theory that maybe we're holding back our 'real' offense in a clever ploy to hide our plays from future competition. I don't agree. My point is that you don't have to look for sneaky behavior when a simple and obvious explanation exists. Now you may object to my entire premise, citing our 9-0 record, but I maintain that we're 9-0 largely because of our defense and that this offense has not yet come close to meeting its potential (except, perhaps, in the Georgia game). I also believe that play-calling has a lot to do with that. Meyer obviously agrees since every offensive change he suggested they would employ after the MSU game involved a change in play-calling. I'm happy we're undefeated, but I would be happier still if our offense were playing to their potential. We'll need that to beat Alabama and Texas. For the record, I'm not unhappy or disgruntled, nor am I complaining. These are amazing times to be a Gator and I'm having a great time this season. I'm just objectively discussing the strengths and weaknesses of our team, something fans have done as long as sports have existed. I guess we could all limit our comments to 'Go Gators' all week, but I've always enjoyed a little more depth in discussions. Rob P.S. Go Gators! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:55 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Well, in one little stat, that is won/loss the new inexperienced and incompetent offensive line coach is 9-0. Mullen never accomplished that. Let's get rid of that idiot and get someone in there who can throw the ball around. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:11 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator This is such wishful thinking. It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren't holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one. As was already pointed out, it would backfire as a plan anyway because you must practice these skills to get good at them. If they did hold back the 'real' offense all season, they'd be unable to run it effectively in the post-season anyway. Like Mullen before him, Addazio will improve over time. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet mailto:gator...@comcast.net Admin To: GatorTalk mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM
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Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there? Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers? snip, snip, snip--- Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3 snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle snip, snip, snip--- Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators' win over Vanderbilt was 'ho-hum' --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin To: GatorTalk Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there? Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers? snip, snip, snip--- Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3 snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle snip, snip, snip--- Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators' win over Vanderbilt was 'ho-hum' --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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No way, no how do you keep an offense vanilla all year to keep game film away from offenses. They all have seen what we can do when we open it up and there is plenty of film from last year to view. I think it is conservative playcalling and lack of execution. I think 3 of the sacks yesterday were on Tebow, holding the ball too long instead of making a decision to throw it away. But is it because he didn't have anyone open due to bad play call, poor route running? I don't know, I did think it was odd on his TD pass that Nelson was behind Cooper, usually you don't bring extra defenders into the area. This team is an enigma, we know they can score, but for some reason we don't, we act like we are in the NFL and play ball control, field position football. That will win a lot of games with our talent, but will also leave little margin for error when mistakes are made. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:50 PM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there? Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers? snip, snip, snip--- Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3 snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle snip, snip, snip--- Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators' win over Vanderbilt was 'ho-hum' --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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This is such wishful thinking. It reminds me of the old adage, never attribute to conspiracy that which can be easily explained by incompetence. Addazio and Meyer aren't holding anything back. We simply have a new OC who happens to be an offensive line coach and who calls plays like one. As was already pointed out, it would backfire as a plan anyway because you must practice these skills to get good at them. If they did hold back the 'real' offense all season, they'd be unable to run it effectively in the post-season anyway. Like Mullen before him, Addazio will improve over time. Rob From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Randy, I think there is more right than wrong to your theory. My *very* cynical and critical husband started saying exactly what you're saying early in the game yesterday. At first, he was so frustrated, saying, What the heck? Why are they going back to this when they saw in Jacksonville how much better they play when they DON'T run these same plays over and over again? Shortly thereafter, he decided that Meyer and Addazio are doing this on purpose. This morning at breakfast, we ran into my ex-in-laws... and my ex-FIL said the exact same thing. Hmmm. We'll see if you're all right. There's over 150 years of football watching experience between the three of you. Surely that counts for something. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin mailto:gator...@comcast.net To: GatorTalk mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced it. Try this on for size and see what you think. I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew would be a pull out all the stops game, I think Tebow and the offense is doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there? Randy - Original Message - From: Juno Gator To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers? snip, snip, snip--- Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3 snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy snip, snip, snip--- Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle snip, snip, snip--- Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators' win over Vanderbilt was 'ho-hum' BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
