[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

2009-10-20 Thread Ken Kirkley
My feeling is this team is playing on the edge.  We have a few players that
are injured, a few more that are playing but not 100%, couple that with
conservative play calling and what I sense as the offense playing 'tight'.
That leads to a 31 point 1st quarter in Kentucky when everything goes right
or to a 10 point win against UT when Tim fumbles late or a near death
experience when we get into the redzone 4 times with zero points to show for
the effort.
 
In the Arky game, if we don't fumble, we win going away.  Arky had to play
the best game of their lives and we had to play our worst.  Still it took
essentially two defensive breakdowns to keep them in the game.  If we make
one of the 5 missed tackles on the long TD run, or if Janoris doesn't get
caught playing the run (for the 2nd time), the long pass play doesn't
happen.
 
For everyone who is saying it is okay to play conservative, survive and
advance, that is fine but it leaves no room for error.  This team needs to
learn to trust the younger receivers, play a little looser  and have a
margin for error when we get the best from our opponent.
 
Having said that, I do think we will turn it around.  Everyone wants to talk
about how great Alabama is, but that USC game was a lot closer than the
final score indicated.  If SOS wasn't so damn stubborn and insisted on
throwing the same fade pattern from the 4, 3 times in a row - that game
might be different as well.
 
I think we figure it out this week.  Miss St was always known for tough
defense, not sure they have that this year.  Their offense is better, but
they don't have the athletes they need to run the spread effectively against
our defense.  Gators 42 Miss St. 3
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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That depends a lot on the quality of the opponent.  Kentucky, Vanderbilt,
and less talented teams - fear everything and hope to catch us napping.  
 
But the better teams - do they fear our defense?  What about after the
Arkansas game?  The only real offense we have played this year.  
 
Do they fear our offense?  Obviously they are psyched out about Tebow.  But
what if we played Brantley instead of Tebow - would they fear our offense?
 
Do they fear our special teams?  Use to be - whenever Brandon James would go
out to field a kickoff or a punt - everyone was on the edge of their seat.
And when it came time for our opponents to punt - everyone sat on the edge
of their seat - wondering if we would block it?  
 
Or do we suffer from a phenom of where we have so many talents - that no one
talent stands out - so we have nothing special about us?  After all we are
ranked #1 and lead the SEC in many categories.  
 
I would say the latter - but college football experts see that in Alabama
- but not us?




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[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

2009-10-20 Thread Jay Cicone
You can say that again.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:24 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing
us?

 

My feeling is this team is playing on the edge.  We have a few players
that are injured, a few more that are playing but not 100%, couple that
with conservative play calling and what I sense as the offense playing
'tight'.  That leads to a 31 point 1st quarter in Kentucky when
everything goes right or to a 10 point win against UT when Tim fumbles
late or a near death experience when we get into the redzone 4 times
with zero points to show for the effort.

 

In the Arky game, if we don't fumble, we win going away.  Arky had to
play the best game of their lives and we had to play our worst.  Still
it took essentially two defensive breakdowns to keep them in the game.
If we make one of the 5 missed tackles on the long TD run, or if Janoris
doesn't get caught playing the run (for the 2nd time), the long pass
play doesn't happen.

 

For everyone who is saying it is okay to play conservative, survive and
advance, that is fine but it leaves no room for error.  This team needs
to learn to trust the younger receivers, play a little looser  and have
a margin for error when we get the best from our opponent.

 

Having said that, I do think we will turn it around.  Everyone wants to
talk about how great Alabama is, but that USC game was a lot closer than
the final score indicated.  If SOS wasn't so damn stubborn and insisted
on throwing the same fade pattern from the 4, 3 times in a row - that
game might be different as well.

 

I think we figure it out this week.  Miss St was always known for tough
defense, not sure they have that this year.  Their offense is better,
but they don't have the athletes they need to run the spread effectively
against our defense.  Gators 42 Miss St. 3

 

Ken K

MNGator

 

 



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Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:24 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

That depends a lot on the quality of the opponent.  Kentucky,
Vanderbilt, and less talented teams - fear everything and hope to catch
us napping.  

 

But the better teams - do they fear our defense?  What about after the
Arkansas game?  The only real offense we have played this year.  

 

Do they fear our offense?  Obviously they are psyched out about Tebow.
But what if we played Brantley instead of Tebow - would they fear our
offense?

 

Do they fear our special teams?  Use to be - whenever Brandon James
would go out to field a kickoff or a punt - everyone was on the edge of
their seat.  And when it came time for our opponents to punt - everyone
sat on the edge of their seat - wondering if we would block it?  

 

Or do we suffer from a phenom of where we have so many talents - that no
one talent stands out - so we have nothing special about us?  After all
we are ranked #1 and lead the SEC in many categories.  

 

I would say the latter - but college football experts see that in
Alabama - but not us?

BR


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[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

2009-10-20 Thread Steve McKibben
He did!

--- On Tue, 10/20/09, Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com wrote:




 
 











You
can say that again. 

  

My feeling is this team is playing on the edge. 



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[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

2009-10-20 Thread Ken Kirkley
I was just trying to nut up.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:29 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
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You can say that again.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:24 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

 

My feeling is this team is playing on the edge.  We have a few players that
are injured, a few more that are playing but not 100%, couple that with
conservative play calling and what I sense as the offense playing 'tight'.
That leads to a 31 point 1st quarter in Kentucky when everything goes right
or to a 10 point win against UT when Tim fumbles late or a near death
experience when we get into the redzone 4 times with zero points to show for
the effort.

 

In the Arky game, if we don't fumble, we win going away.  Arky had to play
the best game of their lives and we had to play our worst.  Still it took
essentially two defensive breakdowns to keep them in the game.  If we make
one of the 5 missed tackles on the long TD run, or if Janoris doesn't get
caught playing the run (for the 2nd time), the long pass play doesn't
happen.

 

For everyone who is saying it is okay to play conservative, survive and
advance, that is fine but it leaves no room for error.  This team needs to
learn to trust the younger receivers, play a little looser  and have a
margin for error when we get the best from our opponent.

 

Having said that, I do think we will turn it around.  Everyone wants to talk
about how great Alabama is, but that USC game was a lot closer than the
final score indicated.  If SOS wasn't so damn stubborn and insisted on
throwing the same fade pattern from the 4, 3 times in a row - that game
might be different as well.

 

I think we figure it out this week.  Miss St was always known for tough
defense, not sure they have that this year.  Their offense is better, but
they don't have the athletes they need to run the spread effectively against
our defense.  Gators 42 Miss St. 3

 

Ken K

MNGator

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:24 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

That depends a lot on the quality of the opponent.  Kentucky, Vanderbilt,
and less talented teams - fear everything and hope to catch us napping.  

 

But the better teams - do they fear our defense?  What about after the
Arkansas game?  The only real offense we have played this year.  

 

Do they fear our offense?  Obviously they are psyched out about Tebow.  But
what if we played Brantley instead of Tebow - would they fear our offense?

 

Do they fear our special teams?  Use to be - whenever Brandon James would go
out to field a kickoff or a punt - everyone was on the edge of their seat.
And when it came time for our opponents to punt - everyone sat on the edge
of their seat - wondering if we would block it?  

 

Or do we suffer from a phenom of where we have so many talents - that no one
talent stands out - so we have nothing special about us?  After all we are
ranked #1 and lead the SEC in many categories.  

 

I would say the latter - but college football experts see that in Alabama
- but not us?

BR






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[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

2009-10-20 Thread Oliver Barry
If not this week, soon.  If you look at last year, this was about the same
time we got going.

As I said earlier, I'm happy for Alabama to be under the magnifying glass
for awhile.  I bet it will help us play looser.

Yeah, what was up with that fade 4 times in a row?  SC could have won that
game with a more imaginative offense.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley



Having said that, I do think we will turn it around.  Everyone wants to talk
about how great Alabama is, but that USC game was a lot closer than the
final score indicated.  If SOS wasn't so damn stubborn and insisted on
throwing the same fade pattern from the 4, 3 times in a row - that game
might be different as well.

 

I think we figure it out this week.  Miss St was always known for tough
defense, not sure they have that this year.  Their offense is better, but
they don't have the athletes they need to run the spread effectively against
our defense.  Gators 42 Miss St. 3

 

Ken K

MNGator

 

 


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[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

2009-10-20 Thread Arthur Polhill
Paulaand I hope you are right.  We leave for Starkville Thursday.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 





From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:23:50 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?


My feeling is this team is playing on the edge.  We have a few players that are 
injured, a few more that are playing but not 100%, couple that with 
conservative play calling and what I sense as the offense playing 'tight'.  
That leads to a 31 point 1st quarter in Kentucky when everything goes right or 
to a 10 point win against UT when Tim fumbles late or a near death experience 
when we get into the redzone 4 times with zero points to show for the effort.
 
In the Arky game, if we don't fumble, we win going away.  Arky had to play the 
best game of their lives and we had to play our worst.  Still it took 
essentially two defensive breakdowns to keep them in the game.  If we make one 
of the 5 missed tackles on the long TD run, or if Janoris doesn't get caught 
playing the run (for the 2nd time), the long pass play doesn't happen.
 
For everyone who is saying it is okay to play conservative, survive and 
advance, that is fine but it leaves no room for error.  This team needs to 
learn to trust the younger receivers, play a little looser  and have a margin 
for error when we get the best from our opponent.
 
Having said that, I do think we will turn it around.  Everyone wants to talk 
about how great Alabama is, but that USC game was a lot closer than the final 
score indicated..  If SOS wasn't so damn stubborn and insisted on throwing the 
same fade pattern from the 4, 3 times in a row - that game might be different 
as well..
 
I think we figure it out this week.  Miss St was always known for tough 
defense, not sure they have that this year.  Their offense is better, but they 
don't have the athletes they need to run the spread effectively against our 
defense.  Gators 42 Miss St. 3

Ken K
MNGator




From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:24 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

That depends a lot on the quality of the opponent.  Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and 
less talented teams - fear everything and hope to catch us napping.  

But the better teams - do they fear our defense?  What about after the Arkansas 
game?  The only real offense we have played this year.  

Do they fear our offense?  Obviously they are psyched out about Tebow.  But 
what if we played Brantley instead of Tebow - would they fear our offense?

Do they fear our special teams?  Use to be - whenever Brandon James would go 
out to field a kickoff or a punt - everyone was on the edge of their seat.  And 
when it came time for our opponents to punt - everyone sat on the edge of their 
seat - wondering if we would block it?  

Or do we suffer from a phenom of where we have so many talents - that no one 
talent stands out - so we have nothing special about us?  After all we are 
ranked #1 and lead the SEC in many categories.  

I would say the latter - but college football experts see that in Alabama - 
but not us?

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