[gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex?
If you have Julio Jones, who is not only a freak of nature, but heads and shoulders above any of his teammates as a playmaker you tell him to run a crossing route, or fly pattern, or down and out, and you look for him. Everyone knows that the ball will be going to him, but knowing it and stopping it are often two different things. How many TDs did he score against the Gators in the SECCG? Heck, in Percy's freshman season he was brought along much the same way, but as his knowledge of the offense evolved, so did his role in it. If you want a fully functional offense where the DBs have no idea if the guy they're lining up across is a primary target, secondary target, decoy, or blocker, then it helps for the offensive player to know the playbook. --- On Wed, 9/2/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Articles are regularly stating that RBs and WRs don't know the plays. Is our playbook too complex? I guess some would look at that as a positive - we have a huge arsenal of plays that we can run. But how do other teams get young guys - like Julio Jones of Alabama - productive in their first year? Seems like it takes us a couple of years before our guys know the playbook. Keith (got 1 and 1/2 bags of meteorite dust so far) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex?
Seriously? You think Alabama's passing playbook is 1/4 of ours? He runs 9 routes probably in his passing tree... that's it. They don't feature the passing game at UA... They are run based. It easy to get a frosh to step into that role in that offense... --- On Wed, 9/2/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: From: ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com Subject: [gatortalk] is our offense too complex? To: gatortalk googlegroups Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 10:33 AM Articles are regularly stating that RBs and WRs don't know the plays. Is our playbook too complex? I guess some would look at that as a positive - we have a huge arsenal of plays that we can run. But how do other teams get young guys - like Julio Jones of Alabama - productive in their first year? Seems like it takes us a couple of years before our guys know the playbook. Keith (got 1 and 1/2 bags of meteorite dust so far) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex?
I think at UF it is not just knowing your route and the formation, it is knowing all the other WR's role too. That in addition to being an unbelievable downfield blocker is a requirement to be game ready' for an Urban Meyer team. So we will see Hammonds play, but he might miss a block that otherwise would have sprung the ball carrier for a big gain. That is what scares me about the line this week. 1st team can put up 42 in the 1st half, 2nd team can put up 21 in the 3rd quarter, but can we score anymore as we get further down the depth chart? Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:44 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex? If you have Julio Jones, who is not only a freak of nature, but heads and shoulders above any of his teammates as a playmaker you tell him to run a crossing route, or fly pattern, or down and out, and you look for him. Everyone knows that the ball will be going to him, but knowing it and stopping it are often two different things. How many TDs did he score against the Gators in the SECCG? Heck, in Percy's freshman season he was brought along much the same way, but as his knowledge of the offense evolved, so did his role in it. If you want a fully functional offense where the DBs have no idea if the guy they're lining up across is a primary target, secondary target, decoy, or blocker, then it helps for the offensive player to know the playbook. --- On Wed, 9/2/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: Articles are regularly stating that RBs and WRs don't know the plays. Is our playbook too complex? I guess some would look at that as a positive - we have a huge arsenal of plays that we can run. But how do other teams get young guys - like Julio Jones of Alabama - productive in their first year? Seems like it takes us a couple of years before our guys know the playbook. Keith (got 1 and 1/2 bags of meteorite dust so far) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex?
On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Ken Kirkley wrote: That is what scares me about the line this week. Nothing about anything scares me this week. -John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex?
I bet Michigan said the same thing about App State too. :-P lol Woody On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:34 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Ken Kirkley wrote: That is what scares me about the line this week. Nothing about anything scares me this week. -John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex?
Exactly...but again, we should really feel that way with Troy...IMO and not CSU - IMO. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: I bet Michigan said the same thing about App State too. :-P lol Woody On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:34 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Ken Kirkley wrote: That is what scares me about the line this week. Nothing about anything scares me this week. -John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---