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When Miami and FSU run their mouths so much before even playing a game - it's good to see them lose. Note to FSU and Miami: Win a bunch of games FIRST and then run your mouth about how great your team and QB are. Offense as a whole really seemed to gain some confidence. The way they were talking all off season - I didn't think they lacked self confidence. I wonder if our defense isn't really, really good and just beat the crap out of the offense this past off season and the offense didn't have much confidence? Demps actually broke some tackles !!! Although I still think Gillislee is better and should start Moody finally starting making a few plays. Receivers made some catches and plays. Offense threw some passes down field - which helped to open up the running game and short game Burton did nothing (still don't understand why he is a standout instead of Debose, Dunkley, etc) Defense is really good and really deep. We had a bunch of defensive guys out - a bunch of freshmen playing - and they still played great. USF QB is a great at making people miss and breaking ankles . -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jong Limb Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:09 PM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Caveat: I only saw the second half Good to see the snap issues straightened out. All of them seemed to come up right to chest level so Brantley could just look down the field. It looked miserable hot out there. I'm surprised more players didn't go out with cramps or dehydration. Carl Moore made some really tough catches. Hopefully, he keeps that up the rest of the year. Still saw a lot of Halapio. I would have expected to see Wilson, but I heard he was injured. After that, I would have expected to see Hurt, but I think he was playing another position. It would be nice to see how the line is with everybody back healthy. I can see where this offense is still learning about themselves. Sometimes Brantley isn't sure about what to do. That's ok. Sorry about the tired phrase, but he and the offense will get better and better with more experience. On other teams: Is it wrong for me to enjoy the FSU beatdown as much as I enjoyed the Gator win? Boy did they look bad. They had a good first drive (which I'm sure they worked on all offseason), and then disappeared. Their defense may be as bad as last year. The special teams seem OK, though. They have a good kicker, decent punter, dangerous punt returner in Reid, but terrible kick returning with Joyner - he couldn't even get back to the 20 usually. I don't know why not; he certainly had enough practice. I guess Ohio State can only beat teams from the south if it's Miami. I occasionally flipped over to this game, and it seemed like if OSU was more efficient on offense, they would have blown out the U as badly as FSU was blown out. Who would have thought SOS would ever give a running back 37 carries in one game? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] Some Observations
Caveat: I only saw the second half Good to see the snap issues straightened out. All of them seemed to come up right to chest level so Brantley could just look down the field. It looked miserable hot out there. I'm surprised more players didn't go out with cramps or dehydration. Carl Moore made some really tough catches. Hopefully, he keeps that up the rest of the year. Still saw a lot of Halapio. I would have expected to see Wilson, but I heard he was injured. After that, I would have expected to see Hurt, but I think he was playing another position. It would be nice to see how the line is with everybody back healthy. I can see where this offense is still learning about themselves. Sometimes Brantley isn't sure about what to do. That's ok. Sorry about the tired phrase, but he and the offense will get better and better with more experience. On other teams: Is it wrong for me to enjoy the FSU beatdown as much as I enjoyed the Gator win? Boy did they look bad. They had a good first drive (which I'm sure they worked on all offseason), and then disappeared. Their defense may be as bad as last year. The special teams seem OK, though. They have a good kicker, decent punter, dangerous punt returner in Reid, but terrible kick returning with Joyner - he couldn't even get back to the 20 usually. I don't know why not; he certainly had enough practice. I guess Ohio State can only beat teams from the south if it's Miami. I occasionally flipped over to this game, and it seemed like if OSU was more efficient on offense, they would have blown out the U as badly as FSU was blown out. Who would have thought SOS would ever give a running back 37 carries in one game? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Some Observations
One additional point: perhaps Brantley is a little TOO low key. Maybe he should have gotten in some people's faces this afternoon (such as his center). I understand there are different styles of leadership, and what works for one person won't necessarily work for another. However, this is football, and sometimes you can't afford to be too subtle. By calling some players out, Brantley could have signaled that he is the leader on offense, and everyone is accountable. We'll see if anything changes over the next seven days. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Leon wrote: --- I do think the game plan was to win without showing anything of our offensive potential. --- I also hope you are right, Leon, as this would account for the play-calling. However, it wouldn't account for the absolutely horrible execution. The Keystone Kops? The Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight? Whatever you want to call us, it was ugly and embarrassing today. As you and others have written, I think we will improve. The question is: will we improve enough? We will be facing much, much tougher teams in the weeks ahead. This could be a long and painful season. Let's hope we see a fundamentally improved team, starting next week. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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They are a very talented bunch. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Cecilia To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 8:58:18 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Some Observations If that was the coaching staff's intent, they succeeded beyond belief. Cee - Original Message - >From: Arthur Polhill > > >I do think the game plan was to win without showing anything of our offensive >potential. > >-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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I certainly hope you're right, Leon!! I don't know if UT-Martin is that much worse than Miami of Ohio, but UT is certainly looking a whole lot better than UF looked today. I'm certainly not looking forward to next week or any of the weeks thereafter :-( - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Some Observations I do think the game plan was to win without showing anything of our offensive potential. USF will see more next week, but we won't open up until Tennessee in Knoxville. Stay tuned. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain -- From: Charlie To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 7:28:02 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Some Observations Both Rainey and Demps would go down with a stiff breeze. I give Brantley a pass on today, he was of course hampered by numerous bad snaps by a senior starter and seriously conservative gameplan which apparently considered most passes thrown beyond the line of scrimmage a serious risk. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Baldwin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:48 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Some Observations << I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad>> Mr Pouncey can forget about copying his brother (moving from guard to center) to go in the first round of the draft. Move Pouncey back to guard and put Robey in at center. << Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL>> Our OL is suppose to be the strength of our team. Our third string should have been able to push Miami of Ohio around. IN a game like today - we should have seen some HUGE holes opened up. I didn't see that. There is no excuse for their performance today. << Rainey is no Harvin>> Agreed. I thought that getting Rainey and Demps out in space would be an excellent thing. They proved me wrong today. They did not break a single tackle. Think that is the difference between Harvin and Rainey/Demps - Harvin could break some tackles. << Drayton = fumbles>> Don't know that I can blame Drayton. Gillislee had a fumble where the guy did an excellent job of stripping the ball. I am shocked but glad that they put Gillislee right back in. I guess Moody dropped a pitch. I think the screwed up exchange between Brantley and Moody - don't know if you can blame Drayton. Most of the fumbles were bad snaps. We shall see as the season goes on. But you are correct - we did hire Drayton's replacement because he was some specialist about holding on to the ball. << Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early>> I was thinking - here we go again ... same way he started last year ... << I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table>> Agreed. I would ask Hines which WR position he wants to play - and put him there. The other WRs can fight for a position. Hines is the only WR that wants to play. I would start Gillislee over Demps and Moody. Moody did nothing. He's suppose to be healthy, this is his money year - and he played like that? Demps kept getting arm tackled. The one long run Demps had - I don't think anyone touched him. Demps is great running track. Not so great when they can hit him. Gillislee ran like a RB possessed. That is what I expect out of Demps and Moody - but didn't see it. I would give Rainey a pass today and not be too critical. Perhaps Hines would be better for the slot? But then we obviously don't have a $#%$ TE !!! Once the defense settled down - they played great. I guess they had one series in the second half where they lost focus. If it were not for a great defense - we might have lost to Miami of Ohio ! I thought considering the snaps being dribbled back to him - Brantley did very well. I think at the half he was 9 of 11 and of the two incompletions - one was the drop by Thompson and the other was a drop by Moore? Hits them in the hands and they drop it. Burton looked good - but I would have rather seen him focusing on - and taking snaps at QB (real stuff - not just goal line) for when Brantley gets hurt. I can see now why they closed practice. 26 yards in 3 quarters? That is shameful. What happened to our kicking? We are suppose to have incredible punter and place kicker. IN fact, all the special teams - did not look special. The only br
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If that was the coaching staff's intent, they succeeded beyond belief. Cee - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill I do think the game plan was to win without showing anything of our offensive potential. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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I do think the game plan was to win without showing anything of our offensive potential. USF will see more next week, but we won't open up until Tennessee in Knoxville. Stay tuned. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Charlie To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 7:28:02 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Some Observations Both Rainey and Demps would go down with a stiff breeze. I give Brantley a pass on today, he was of course hampered by numerous bad snaps by a senior starter and seriously conservative gameplan which apparently considered most passes thrown beyond the line of scrimmage a serious risk. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Baldwin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:48 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Some Observations << I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad>> Mr Pouncey can forget about copying his brother (moving from guard to center) to go in the first round of the draft. Move Pouncey back to guard and put Robey in at center. << Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL>> Our OL is suppose to be the strength of our team. Our third string should have been able to push Miami of Ohio around. IN a game like today - we should have seen some HUGE holes opened up. I didn't see that. There is no excuse for their performance today. << Rainey is no Harvin>> Agreed. I thought that getting Rainey and Demps out in space would be an excellent thing. They proved me wrong today. They did not break a single tackle. Think that is the difference between Harvin and Rainey/Demps - Harvin could break some tackles. << Drayton = fumbles>> Don't know that I can blame Drayton. Gillislee had a fumble where the guy did an excellent job of stripping the ball. I am shocked but glad that they put Gillislee right back in. I guess Moody dropped a pitch. I think the screwed up exchange between Brantley and Moody - don't know if you can blame Drayton. Most of the fumbles were bad snaps. We shall see as the season goes on. But you are correct - we did hire Drayton's replacement because he was some specialist about holding on to the ball. << Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early>> I was thinking - here we go again ... same way he started last year ... << I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table>> Agreed. I would ask Hines which WR position he wants to play - and put him there. The other WRs can fight for a position. Hines is the only WR that wants to play. I would start Gillislee over Demps and Moody. Moody did nothing. He's suppose to be healthy, this is his money year - and he played like that? Demps kept getting arm tackled. The one long run Demps had - I don't think anyone touched him. Demps is great running track. Not so great when they can hit him. Gillislee ran like a RB possessed. That is what I expect out of Demps and Moody - but didn't see it. I would give Rainey a pass today and not be too critical. Perhaps Hines would be better for the slot? But then we obviously don't have a $#%$ TE !!! Once the defense settled down - they played great. I guess they had one series in the second half where they lost focus. If it were not for a great defense - we might have lost to Miami of Ohio ! I thought considering the snaps being dribbled back to him - Brantley did very well. I think at the half he was 9 of 11 and of the two incompletions - one was the drop by Thompson and the other was a drop by Moore? Hits them in the hands and they drop it. Burton looked good - but I would have rather seen him focusing on - and taking snaps at QB (real stuff - not just goal line) for when Brantley gets hurt. I can see now why they closed practice. 26 yards in 3 quarters? That is shameful. What happened to our kicking? We are suppose to have incredible punter and place kicker. IN fact, all the special teams - did not look special. The only bright spot was our defense - but again - it was Miami of Ohio - which was the about the worst offense in division one last year. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jong Limb Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:30 PM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad, but as far as the OL performance overall, I saw a lot of names I didn't expect to see. For example, I saw a lot of Halapio. I also saw Harrison and Silberman. Maybe some
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My thoughts exactly about Pouncey...even the announcers said he was playing like a guard instead of a center. His mind is not in the right position. - Original Message - From: "Keith Baldwin" To: Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Some Observations << I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad>> Mr Pouncey can forget about copying his brother (moving from guard to center) to go in the first round of the draft. Move Pouncey back to guard and put Robey in at center. << Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL>> Our OL is suppose to be the strength of our team. Our third string should have been able to push Miami of Ohio around. IN a game like today - we should have seen some HUGE holes opened up. I didn't see that. There is no excuse for their performance today. << Rainey is no Harvin>> Agreed. I thought that getting Rainey and Demps out in space would be an excellent thing. They proved me wrong today. They did not break a single tackle. Think that is the difference between Harvin and Rainey/Demps - Harvin could break some tackles. << Drayton = fumbles>> Don't know that I can blame Drayton. Gillislee had a fumble where the guy did an excellent job of stripping the ball. I am shocked but glad that they put Gillislee right back in. I guess Moody dropped a pitch. I think the screwed up exchange between Brantley and Moody - don't know if you can blame Drayton. Most of the fumbles were bad snaps. We shall see as the season goes on. But you are correct - we did hire Drayton's replacement because he was some specialist about holding on to the ball. << Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early>> I was thinking - here we go again ... same way he started last year ... << I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table>> Agreed. I would ask Hines which WR position he wants to play - and put him there. The other WRs can fight for a position. Hines is the only WR that wants to play. I would start Gillislee over Demps and Moody. Moody did nothing. He's suppose to be healthy, this is his money year - and he played like that? Demps kept getting arm tackled. The one long run Demps had - I don't think anyone touched him. Demps is great running track. Not so great when they can hit him. Gillislee ran like a RB possessed. That is what I expect out of Demps and Moody - but didn't see it. I would give Rainey a pass today and not be too critical. Perhaps Hines would be better for the slot? But then we obviously don't have a $#%$ TE !!! Once the defense settled down - they played great. I guess they had one series in the second half where they lost focus. If it were not for a great defense - we might have lost to Miami of Ohio ! I thought considering the snaps being dribbled back to him - Brantley did very well. I think at the half he was 9 of 11 and of the two incompletions - one was the drop by Thompson and the other was a drop by Moore? Hits them in the hands and they drop it. Burton looked good - but I would have rather seen him focusing on - and taking snaps at QB (real stuff - not just goal line) for when Brantley gets hurt. I can see now why they closed practice. 26 yards in 3 quarters? That is shameful. What happened to our kicking? We are suppose to have incredible punter and place kicker. IN fact, all the special teams - did not look special. The only bright spot was our defense - but again - it was Miami of Ohio - which was the about the worst offense in division one last year. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jong Limb Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:30 PM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad, but as far as the OL performance overall, I saw a lot of names I didn't expect to see. For example, I saw a lot of Halapio. I also saw Harrison and Silberman. Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL. I know Wilson was injured, but they didn't mention the extent. I don't care what the coaches say, Rainey is no Harvin. That's not a knock on Rainey; Harvin is simply the best football player I've ever seen. Rainey got a number of touches, but didn't make a significant play that I can remember. Drayton = fumbles, in my book. As soon as he left, the fumbles went away. As soon as he returns, the fumbles come back. He may be a good recruiter, but he leaves a lot to be desired as a running backs coach. I saw Carl Moore take a big hit to his back. Hopefully, he didn't get injured again.
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Oops, I meant 52 Jonathan Bostic. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Arthur Polhill Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 15:45:59 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Some Observations #51, FR Michael Taylor A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: "oli...@bobparks.com" To: Gator Talk Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 5:48:25 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Some Observations You're correct in your assessment, Jong. I would only add the defense was spectacular today. Janoris Jenkins, of course, and Jay Howard up the middle. Who needs defensive ends when you've got him. And, the linebacker, number 51. Can't remember his name, played great. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jong Limb Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:30:29 To: GatorTalk Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. [Steve was here] -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Keith Baldwin wrote: Our OL is suppose to be the strength of our team. Our third string should have been able to push Miami of Ohio around. IN a game like today - we should have seen some HUGE holes opened up. I didn't see that. There is no excuse for their performance today. I think at the end of the year, we'll see that Miami is a decent team. I don't think they end up 1-11 this year. Regardless, I agree with you; we should have opened up more and bigger holes for the running game. << Drayton = fumbles>> Don't know that I can blame Drayton. Gillislee had a fumble where the guy did an excellent job of stripping the ball. I am shocked but glad that they put Gillislee right back in. I guess Moody dropped a pitch. I think the screwed up exchange between Brantley and Moody - don't know if you can blame Drayton. Most of the fumbles were bad snaps. We shall see as the season goes on. But you are correct - we did hire Drayton's replacement because he was some specialist about holding on to the ball. Other than the Gillislee fumble, I was thinking of Rainey fumbling after a catch, and Demps at the end of a run. As for the Brantley/Moody exchange, I think that was caused more by a poor snap than anything. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Both Rainey and Demps would go down with a stiff breeze. I give Brantley a pass on today, he was of course hampered by numerous bad snaps by a senior starter and seriously conservative gameplan which apparently considered most passes thrown beyond the line of scrimmage a serious risk. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Baldwin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:48 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Some Observations << I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad>> Mr Pouncey can forget about copying his brother (moving from guard to center) to go in the first round of the draft. Move Pouncey back to guard and put Robey in at center. << Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL>> Our OL is suppose to be the strength of our team. Our third string should have been able to push Miami of Ohio around. IN a game like today - we should have seen some HUGE holes opened up. I didn't see that. There is no excuse for their performance today. << Rainey is no Harvin>> Agreed. I thought that getting Rainey and Demps out in space would be an excellent thing. They proved me wrong today. They did not break a single tackle. Think that is the difference between Harvin and Rainey/Demps - Harvin could break some tackles. << Drayton = fumbles>> Don't know that I can blame Drayton. Gillislee had a fumble where the guy did an excellent job of stripping the ball. I am shocked but glad that they put Gillislee right back in. I guess Moody dropped a pitch. I think the screwed up exchange between Brantley and Moody - don't know if you can blame Drayton. Most of the fumbles were bad snaps. We shall see as the season goes on. But you are correct - we did hire Drayton's replacement because he was some specialist about holding on to the ball. << Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early>> I was thinking - here we go again ... same way he started last year ... << I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table>> Agreed. I would ask Hines which WR position he wants to play - and put him there. The other WRs can fight for a position. Hines is the only WR that wants to play. I would start Gillislee over Demps and Moody. Moody did nothing. He's suppose to be healthy, this is his money year - and he played like that? Demps kept getting arm tackled. The one long run Demps had - I don't think anyone touched him. Demps is great running track. Not so great when they can hit him. Gillislee ran like a RB possessed. That is what I expect out of Demps and Moody - but didn't see it. I would give Rainey a pass today and not be too critical. Perhaps Hines would be better for the slot? But then we obviously don't have a $#%$ TE !!! Once the defense settled down - they played great. I guess they had one series in the second half where they lost focus. If it were not for a great defense - we might have lost to Miami of Ohio ! I thought considering the snaps being dribbled back to him - Brantley did very well. I think at the half he was 9 of 11 and of the two incompletions - one was the drop by Thompson and the other was a drop by Moore? Hits them in the hands and they drop it. Burton looked good - but I would have rather seen him focusing on - and taking snaps at QB (real stuff - not just goal line) for when Brantley gets hurt. I can see now why they closed practice. 26 yards in 3 quarters? That is shameful. What happened to our kicking? We are suppose to have incredible punter and place kicker. IN fact, all the special teams - did not look special. The only bright spot was our defense - but again - it was Miami of Ohio - which was the about the worst offense in division one last year. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jong Limb Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:30 PM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad, but as far as the OL performance overall, I saw a lot of names I didn't expect to see. For example, I saw a lot of Halapio. I also saw Harrison and Silberman. Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL. I know Wilson was injured, but they didn't mention the extent. I don't care what the coaches say, Rainey is no Harvin. That's not a knock on Rainey; Harvin is simply the best football player I've ever seen. Rainey got a number of touches, but didn't make a significant play that I can remember. Drayton = fumbles, in my book. As soon as he left, the fumbles went away. As soon as h
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<< I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad>> Mr Pouncey can forget about copying his brother (moving from guard to center) to go in the first round of the draft. Move Pouncey back to guard and put Robey in at center. << Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL>> Our OL is suppose to be the strength of our team. Our third string should have been able to push Miami of Ohio around. IN a game like today - we should have seen some HUGE holes opened up. I didn't see that. There is no excuse for their performance today. << Rainey is no Harvin>> Agreed. I thought that getting Rainey and Demps out in space would be an excellent thing. They proved me wrong today. They did not break a single tackle. Think that is the difference between Harvin and Rainey/Demps - Harvin could break some tackles. << Drayton = fumbles>> Don't know that I can blame Drayton. Gillislee had a fumble where the guy did an excellent job of stripping the ball. I am shocked but glad that they put Gillislee right back in. I guess Moody dropped a pitch. I think the screwed up exchange between Brantley and Moody - don't know if you can blame Drayton. Most of the fumbles were bad snaps. We shall see as the season goes on. But you are correct - we did hire Drayton's replacement because he was some specialist about holding on to the ball. << Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early>> I was thinking - here we go again ... same way he started last year ... << I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table>> Agreed. I would ask Hines which WR position he wants to play - and put him there. The other WRs can fight for a position. Hines is the only WR that wants to play. I would start Gillislee over Demps and Moody. Moody did nothing. He's suppose to be healthy, this is his money year - and he played like that? Demps kept getting arm tackled. The one long run Demps had - I don't think anyone touched him. Demps is great running track. Not so great when they can hit him. Gillislee ran like a RB possessed. That is what I expect out of Demps and Moody - but didn't see it. I would give Rainey a pass today and not be too critical. Perhaps Hines would be better for the slot? But then we obviously don't have a $#%$ TE !!! Once the defense settled down - they played great. I guess they had one series in the second half where they lost focus. If it were not for a great defense - we might have lost to Miami of Ohio ! I thought considering the snaps being dribbled back to him - Brantley did very well. I think at the half he was 9 of 11 and of the two incompletions - one was the drop by Thompson and the other was a drop by Moore? Hits them in the hands and they drop it. Burton looked good - but I would have rather seen him focusing on - and taking snaps at QB (real stuff - not just goal line) for when Brantley gets hurt. I can see now why they closed practice. 26 yards in 3 quarters? That is shameful. What happened to our kicking? We are suppose to have incredible punter and place kicker. IN fact, all the special teams - did not look special. The only bright spot was our defense - but again - it was Miami of Ohio - which was the about the worst offense in division one last year. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jong Limb Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:30 PM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad, but as far as the OL performance overall, I saw a lot of names I didn't expect to see. For example, I saw a lot of Halapio. I also saw Harrison and Silberman. Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL. I know Wilson was injured, but they didn't mention the extent. I don't care what the coaches say, Rainey is no Harvin. That's not a knock on Rainey; Harvin is simply the best football player I've ever seen. Rainey got a number of touches, but didn't make a significant play that I can remember. Drayton = fumbles, in my book. As soon as he left, the fumbles went away. As soon as he returns, the fumbles come back. He may be a good recruiter, but he leaves a lot to be desired as a running backs coach. I saw Carl Moore take a big hit to his back. Hopefully, he didn't get injured again. Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early, but it was clearly interference that wasn't called. From what I saw, he caught everything else today. I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table. He made several good plays. All that being said, I'm sure this team will get better. Everyo
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#51, FR Michael Taylor A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: "oli...@bobparks.com" To: Gator Talk Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 5:48:25 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Some Observations You're correct in your assessment, Jong. I would only add the defense was spectacular today. Janoris Jenkins, of course, and Jay Howard up the middle. Who needs defensive ends when you've got him. And, the linebacker, number 51. Can't remember his name, played great. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jong Limb Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:30:29 To: GatorTalk Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. [Steve was here] -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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A very thoughtful post, Jong. The offensive line was shuffled for this game and will get fixed. Rainey did make the tip-catch for our final touchdown. As for fumbles, I believed we had about 8 of them, losing two. Most of them were by Brantley as a result of a bad snap, so you can't really blame those on the running backs coach. I agree that we will improve greatly next week. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Jong Limb To: GatorTalk Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 5:30:29 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad, but as far as the OL performance overall, I saw a lot of names I didn't expect to see. For example, I saw a lot of Halapio. I also saw Harrison and Silberman. Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL. I know Wilson was injured, but they didn't mention the extent. I don't care what the coaches say, Rainey is no Harvin. That's not a knock on Rainey; Harvin is simply the best football player I've ever seen. Rainey got a number of touches, but didn't make a significant play that I can remember. Drayton = fumbles, in my book. As soon as he left, the fumbles went away. As soon as he returns, the fumbles come back. He may be a good recruiter, but he leaves a lot to be desired as a running backs coach. I saw Carl Moore take a big hit to his back. Hopefully, he didn't get injured again. Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early, but it was clearly interference that wasn't called. From what I saw, he caught everything else today. I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table. He made several good plays. All that being said, I'm sure this team will get better. Everyone wrote off Oregon last year after their first game, but they got better over the course of the season. I think this team will as well. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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You're correct in your assessment, Jong. I would only add the defense was spectacular today. Janoris Jenkins, of course, and Jay Howard up the middle. Who needs defensive ends when you've got him. And, the linebacker, number 51. Can't remember his name, played great. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jong Limb Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:30:29 To: GatorTalk Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Some Observations Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad, but as far as the OL performance overall, I saw a lot of names I didn't expect to see. For example, I saw a lot of Halapio. I also saw Harrison and Silberman. Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL. I know Wilson was injured, but they didn't mention the extent. I don't care what the coaches say, Rainey is no Harvin. That's not a knock on Rainey; Harvin is simply the best football player I've ever seen. Rainey got a number of touches, but didn't make a significant play that I can remember. Drayton = fumbles, in my book. As soon as he left, the fumbles went away. As soon as he returns, the fumbles come back. He may be a good recruiter, but he leaves a lot to be desired as a running backs coach. I saw Carl Moore take a big hit to his back. Hopefully, he didn't get injured again. Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early, but it was clearly interference that wasn't called. From what I saw, he caught everything else today. I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table. He made several good plays. All that being said, I'm sure this team will get better. Everyone wrote off Oregon last year after their first game, but they got better over the course of the season. I think this team will as well. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] Some Observations
Definitely not the best game I've ever seen the Gators play. I can't explain why the snaps from center were so bad, but as far as the OL performance overall, I saw a lot of names I didn't expect to see. For example, I saw a lot of Halapio. I also saw Harrison and Silberman. Maybe some of the starters got injured, and that's why there was no push from the OL. I know Wilson was injured, but they didn't mention the extent. I don't care what the coaches say, Rainey is no Harvin. That's not a knock on Rainey; Harvin is simply the best football player I've ever seen. Rainey got a number of touches, but didn't make a significant play that I can remember. Drayton = fumbles, in my book. As soon as he left, the fumbles went away. As soon as he returns, the fumbles come back. He may be a good recruiter, but he leaves a lot to be desired as a running backs coach. I saw Carl Moore take a big hit to his back. Hopefully, he didn't get injured again. Deonte Thompson looked like he dropped that TD pass early, but it was clearly interference that wasn't called. From what I saw, he caught everything else today. I like what Omarius Hines brings to the table. He made several good plays. All that being said, I'm sure this team will get better. Everyone wrote off Oregon last year after their first game, but they got better over the course of the season. I think this team will as well. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
