RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars

[Jay Cicone]

Whatever you say, Ienstien.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:10 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida
Gators fast on the field and in their cars

 

I have noticed that we are not preparing our children to deal with
administrative detail.  You know: 

 

-working the inbox promptly, if not daily

-setting up a date-based tickler file for due date items

-taking all governmental communications seriously

 

Etc.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 



From: Randy Platt 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 3:25:02 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida
Gators fast on the field and in their cars

Having a 23 year old daughter who has had more than one ticket, which
she neglected to take care of, resulting in several arrests on driving
with a suspended license charge, I found the article interesting and
enlightening.  For the record while my daughter is not a bad person,
tending to the tedious requirements and paperwork needed to  coordinate
various traffic courts, Duval, Orange, Hillsborough, with the judicial
system is not her strong suit.

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:54 AM
To: gatort...@googlegroups..com
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators
fast on the field and in their cars

 

Why do people go looking for stories like this?  It is really
meaningless without comparative data from  a>other schools; b> other
groups of students at UF or c> any other scientific measurement.
Rather, they compare it to college aged males in the country (not
drivers, all males), to all males in Alachua County between 18 and 24,
and to an estimate by UPD on the average number of citations the average
UF student receives.  Heck, I received 3 tickets in Gainesville, so I
was 3 times more likely than the average student I guess.

 

This is just ridiculous and is a pathetic attempt by a local paper to
try and make a name for themselves by bringing down the big guy.  What I
really want to know is what is the average number of tickets by Sentinel
sportswriters?  Or better yet, what is the average number of free meals
they eat at UF's expense so they can provide us with this compelling
coverage?

 

Ken

MNGator

 

Happy Holidays!

 

 



From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Badrish
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups..com
Subject: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the
field and in their cars

 


Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars


12 different Gators have 7 or more tickets; 251 citations team-wide


By Jeremy Fowler, ORLANDO SENTINEL 

December 22, 2009

 

GAINESVILLE - Before a loss to Alabama on Dec. 5, the Florida Gators
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/florida-gators-ORS
PT000172.topic>  were racing to a national title.

Literally.

Florida has had well-publicized arrests in recent months stemming from
traffic charges - including Carlos Dunlap's DUI charge on Dec. 1 -- but
those incidents comprise a small fraction of a team-wide 251 traffic
citations in Alachua County, according to Orlando Sentinel research.

These charges range from speeding tickets to numerous cases of driving
with a suspended or revoked license, typically a second-degree
misdemeanor or, for repeat offenders, a felony.

The data was compiled in late November and early December through
Alachua County court records, accounting for 96 Gators who either
entered fall camp on scholarship or served in the "game participation"
portion of this season's boxscores. Charges stem from 2006-09 for
football players who usually drive cars or motorized scooters around
campus or in Gainesville.

Depending on the source, some in the legal world consider any traffic
misdemeanor or felony charge a technical arrest. The Gators have 21 such
charges, mostly from getting caught with a suspended license. Most
charges don't result in jail booking..

Thirty-two of the team's citations were listed as "open" or "undisposed"
in the Alachua County system at the time of this search, meaning they
are either unpaid or unresolved.

Many Gators obey the laws of the road. Thirty-two players - yes,
including Tim Tebow
<http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/footb

Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars

[Arthur Polhill]

I have noticed that we are not preparing our children to deal with 
administrative detail.  You know: 

-    working the inbox promptly, if not daily
-    setting up a date-based tickler file for due date items
-    taking all governmental communications seriously

Etc.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Randy Platt 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 3:25:02 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators 
fast on the field and in their cars


Having a 23 year old daughter who has had more than one ticket, which she 
neglected to take care of, resulting in several arrests on driving with a 
suspended license charge, I found the article interesting and enlightening.  
For the record while my daughter is not a bad person, tending to the tedious 
requirements and paperwork needed to  coordinate various traffic courts, Duval, 
Orange, Hillsborough, with the judicial system is not her strong suit.
 
 
Randy Platt
aka "PCGator"
aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
aka "The Other Randy"
 
Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!
 
 
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:54 AM
To: gatort...@googlegroups..com
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on 
the field and in their cars
 
Why do people go looking for stories like this?  It is really meaningless 
without comparative data from  a>other schools; b> other groups of students at 
UF or c> any other scientific measurement.  Rather, they compare it to college 
aged males in the country (not drivers, all males), to all males in Alachua 
County between 18 and 24, and to an estimate by UPD on the average number of 
citations the average UF student receives.  Heck, I received 3 tickets in 
Gainesville, so I was 3 times more likely than the average student I guess.
 
This is just ridiculous and is a pathetic attempt by a local paper to try and 
make a name for themselves by bringing down the big guy..  What I really want 
to know is what is the average number of tickets by Sentinel sportswriters?  Or 
better yet, what is the average number of free meals they eat at UF’s expense 
so they can provide us with this compelling coverage?
 
Ken
MNGator
 
Happy Holidays!
 
 



From:gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Badrish
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and 
in their cars
 
Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars
12 different Gators have 7 or more tickets; 251 citations team-wide
By Jeremy Fowler, ORLANDO SENTINEL 
December 22, 2009
 
GAINESVILLE – Before a loss to Alabama on Dec.. 5, the Florida Gators were 
racing to a national title.

Literally.

Florida has had well-publicized arrests in recent months stemming from traffic 
charges – including Carlos Dunlap's DUI charge on Dec. 1 -- but those incidents 
comprise a small fraction of a team-wide 251 traffic citations in Alachua 
County, according to Orlando Sentinel research.

These charges range from speeding tickets to numerous cases of driving with a 
suspended or revoked license, typically a second-degree misdemeanor or, for 
repeat offenders, a felony.

The data was compiled in late November and early December through Alachua 
County court records, accounting for 96 Gators who either entered fall camp on 
scholarship or served in the "game participation" portion of this season's 
boxscores. Charges stem from 2006-09 for football players who usually drive 
cars or motorized scooters around campus or in Gainesville.

Depending on the source, some in the legal world consider any traffic 
misdemeanor or felony charge a technical arrest. The Gators have 21 such 
charges, mostly from getting caught with a suspended license. Most charges 
don't result in jail booking.

Thirty-two of the team's citations were listed as "open" or "undisposed" in the 
Alachua County system at the time of this search, meaning they are either 
unpaid or unresolved.

Many Gators obey the laws of the road. Thirty-two players – yes, including Tim 
Tebow – never have received a documented traffic ticket in Alachua County. 
Eleven of the 32 are from the 2009 signing class and have been on campus less 
than a year.

But 12 different Gators have seven or more tickets, including team leader 
Jermaine Cunningham, an All-Southeastern Conference defensive end who has 
almost as many career tickets (14) as sacks (18).

The list includes cornerback Markihe Anderson (11), offensive lineman Marcus 
Gilbert (11), offensive lineman Cor

RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars

[Randy Platt]

Having a 23 year old daughter who has had more than one ticket, which she
neglected to take care of, resulting in several arrests on driving with a
suspended license charge, I found the article interesting and enlightening.
For the record while my daughter is not a bad person, tending to the tedious
requirements and paperwork needed to  coordinate various traffic courts,
Duval, Orange, Hillsborough, with the judicial system is not her strong
suit.

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:54 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast
on the field and in their cars

 

Why do people go looking for stories like this?  It is really meaningless
without comparative data from  a>other schools; b> other groups of students
at UF or c> any other scientific measurement.  Rather, they compare it to
college aged males in the country (not drivers, all males), to all males in
Alachua County between 18 and 24, and to an estimate by UPD on the average
number of citations the average UF student receives.  Heck, I received 3
tickets in Gainesville, so I was 3 times more likely than the average
student I guess.

 

This is just ridiculous and is a pathetic attempt by a local paper to try
and make a name for themselves by bringing down the big guy.  What I really
want to know is what is the average number of tickets by Sentinel
sportswriters?  Or better yet, what is the average number of free meals they
eat at UF's expense so they can provide us with this compelling coverage?

 

Ken

MNGator

 

Happy Holidays!

 

 

  _  

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Badrish
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field
and in their cars

 


Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars


12 different Gators have 7 or more tickets; 251 citations team-wide


By Jeremy Fowler, ORLANDO SENTINEL 

December 22, 2009

 

GAINESVILLE - Before a loss to Alabama on Dec. 5, the Florida Gators
  were racing to a national title.

Literally.

Florida has had well-publicized arrests in recent months stemming from
traffic charges - including Carlos Dunlap's DUI charge on Dec. 1 -- but
those incidents comprise a small fraction of a team-wide 251 traffic
citations in Alachua County, according to Orlando Sentinel research.

These charges range from speeding tickets to numerous cases of driving with
a suspended or revoked license, typically a second-degree misdemeanor or,
for repeat offenders, a felony.

The data was compiled in late November and early December through Alachua
County court records, accounting for 96 Gators who either entered fall camp
on scholarship or served in the "game participation" portion of this
season's boxscores. Charges stem from 2006-09 for football players who
usually drive cars or motorized scooters around campus or in Gainesville.

Depending on the source, some in the legal world consider any traffic
misdemeanor or felony charge a technical arrest. The Gators have 21 such
charges, mostly from getting caught with a suspended license. Most charges
don't result in jail booking.

Thirty-two of the team's citations were listed as "open" or "undisposed" in
the Alachua County system at the time of this search, meaning they are
either unpaid or unresolved.

Many Gators obey the laws of the road. Thirty-two players - yes, including
Tim Tebow
  - never have received a documented traffic ticket in Alachua County.
Eleven of the 32 are from the 2009 signing class and have been on campus
less than a year.

But 12 different Gators have seven or more tickets, including team leader
Jermaine Cunningham, an All-Southeastern Conference defensive end who has
almost as many career tickets (14) as sacks (18).

The list includes cornerback Markihe Anderson (11), offensive lineman Marcus
Gilbert (11), offensive lineman Corey Hobbs (11), safety Dorian Munroe (11),
defensive back Miguel Carodine (11), linebacker Dustin Doe (9), offensive
lineman Maurkice Pouncey (7), All-American linebacker Brandon Spikes (7) and
three starting defensive linemen -- Lawrence Marsh (7), Terron Sanders (7)
and Jaye Howard (7).

Two players, Carodine and freshman quarterback Jordan Reed, have received a
criminal charge for driving while never owning a license.

Dunlap, who fell asleep at the wheel at a Gainesville intersection four days
before the Southeastern Conference Championship Game, has the only DUI
charge among the Gators.

Th

RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars

[Gatornet Admin]

I agree. It sounds like the media is reaching to the bottom of the barrel
trying to justify their paychecks this week.
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:54 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast
on the field and in their cars
 
Why do people go looking for stories like this?  It is really meaningless
without comparative data from  a>other schools; b> other groups of students
at UF or c> any other scientific measurement.  Rather, they compare it to
college aged males in the country (not drivers, all males), to all males in
Alachua County between 18 and 24, and to an estimate by UPD on the average
number of citations the average UF student receives.  Heck, I received 3
tickets in Gainesville, so I was 3 times more likely than the average
student I guess.
 
This is just ridiculous and is a pathetic attempt by a local paper to try
and make a name for themselves by bringing down the big guy.  What I really
want to know is what is the average number of tickets by Sentinel
sportswriters?  Or better yet, what is the average number of free meals they
eat at UF's expense so they can provide us with this compelling coverage?
 
Ken
MNGator
 
Happy Holidays!
 
 
  _  

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Badrish
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field
and in their cars
 

Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars


12 different Gators have 7 or more tickets; 251 citations team-wide

By Jeremy Fowler, ORLANDO SENTINEL 
December 22, 2009
 
GAINESVILLE - Before a loss to Alabama on Dec. 5, the Florida Gators
  were racing to a national title.

Literally.

Florida has had well-publicized arrests in recent months stemming from
traffic charges - including Carlos Dunlap's DUI charge on Dec. 1 -- but
those incidents comprise a small fraction of a team-wide 251 traffic
citations in Alachua County, according to Orlando Sentinel research.

These charges range from speeding tickets to numerous cases of driving with
a suspended or revoked license, typically a second-degree misdemeanor or,
for repeat offenders, a felony.

The data was compiled in late November and early December through Alachua
County court records, accounting for 96 Gators who either entered fall camp
on scholarship or served in the "game participation" portion of this
season's boxscores. Charges stem from 2006-09 for football players who
usually drive cars or motorized scooters around campus or in Gainesville.

Depending on the source, some in the legal world consider any traffic
misdemeanor or felony charge a technical arrest. The Gators have 21 such
charges, mostly from getting caught with a suspended license. Most charges
don't result in jail booking.

Thirty-two of the team's citations were listed as "open" or "undisposed" in
the Alachua County system at the time of this search, meaning they are
either unpaid or unresolved.

Many Gators obey the laws of the road. Thirty-two players - yes, including
Tim Tebow
  - never have received a documented traffic ticket in Alachua County.
Eleven of the 32 are from the 2009 signing class and have been on campus
less than a year.

But 12 different Gators have seven or more tickets, including team leader
Jermaine Cunningham, an All-Southeastern Conference defensive end who has
almost as many career tickets (14) as sacks (18).

The list includes cornerback Markihe Anderson (11), offensive lineman Marcus
Gilbert (11), offensive lineman Corey Hobbs (11), safety Dorian Munroe (11),
defensive back Miguel Carodine (11), linebacker Dustin Doe (9), offensive
lineman Maurkice Pouncey (7), All-American linebacker Brandon Spikes (7) and
three starting defensive linemen -- Lawrence Marsh (7), Terron Sanders (7)
and Jaye Howard (7).

Two players, Carodine and freshman quarterback Jordan Reed, have received a
criminal charge for driving while never owning a license.

Dunlap, who fell asleep at the wheel at a Gainesville intersection four days
before the Southeastern Conference Championship Game, has the only DUI
charge among the Gators.

The cases of Cunningham, who avoided arrest, and Doe, who was arrested in
July for driving excessively with a suspended license, resemble a common
tale State Attorney Bill Cervone knows too well.

Someone accumulates too many tickets, possibly doesn't pay them and
eventually gets assessed an "unknowingly" driving with a suspended license
charge. That charge classifies as a routine criminal or civil traffic
citation - pay and go on your way - but the second time around would el

RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars

[Oliver Barry]

I read a portion of the article then deleted it.  Some news is truly unfit
to print!

 

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Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

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Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:54 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast
on the field and in their cars

 

Why do people go looking for stories like this?  It is really meaningless
without comparative data from  a>other schools; b> other groups of students
at UF or c> any other scientific measurement.  Rather, they compare it to
college aged males in the country (not drivers, all males), to all males in
Alachua County between 18 and 24, and to an estimate by UPD on the average
number of citations the average UF student receives.  Heck, I received 3
tickets in Gainesville, so I was 3 times more likely than the average
student I guess.

 

This is just ridiculous and is a pathetic attempt by a local paper to try
and make a name for themselves by bringing down the big guy.  What I really
want to know is what is the average number of tickets by Sentinel
sportswriters?  Or better yet, what is the average number of free meals they
eat at UF's expense so they can provide us with this compelling coverage?

 

Ken

MNGator

 

Happy Holidays!

 

 

  _  

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Badrish
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field
and in their cars

 


Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars


12 different Gators have 7 or more tickets; 251 citations team-wide


By Jeremy Fowler, ORLANDO SENTINEL 

December 22, 2009

 

GAINESVILLE - Before a loss to Alabama on Dec. 5, the Florida Gators
  were racing to a national title.

Literally.

Florida has had well-publicized arrests in recent months stemming from
traffic charges - including Carlos Dunlap's DUI charge on Dec. 1 -- but
those incidents comprise a small fraction of a team-wide 251 traffic
citations in Alachua County, according to Orlando Sentinel research.

These charges range from speeding tickets to numerous cases of driving with
a suspended or revoked license, typically a second-degree misdemeanor or,
for repeat offenders, a felony.

The data was compiled in late November and early December through Alachua
County court records, accounting for 96 Gators who either entered fall camp
on scholarship or served in the "game participation" portion of this
season's boxscores. Charges stem from 2006-09 for football players who
usually drive cars or motorized scooters around campus or in Gainesville.

Depending on the source, some in the legal world consider any traffic
misdemeanor or felony charge a technical arrest. The Gators have 21 such
charges, mostly from getting caught with a suspended license. Most charges
don't result in jail booking.

Thirty-two of the team's citations were listed as "open" or "undisposed" in
the Alachua County system at the time of this search, meaning they are
either unpaid or unresolved.

Many Gators obey the laws of the road. Thirty-two players - yes, including
Tim Tebow
  - never have received a documented traffic ticket in Alachua County.
Eleven of the 32 are from the 2009 signing class and have been on campus
less than a year.

But 12 different Gators have seven or more tickets, including team leader
Jermaine Cunningham, an All-Southeastern Conference defensive end who has
almost as many career tickets (14) as sacks (18).

The list includes cornerback Markihe Anderson (11), offensive lineman Marcus
Gilbert (11), offensive lineman Corey Hobbs (11), safety Dorian Munroe (11),
defensive back Miguel Carodine (11), linebacker Dustin Doe (9), offensive
lineman Maurkice Pouncey (7), All-American linebacker Brandon Spikes (7) and
three starting defensive linemen -- Lawrence Marsh (7), Terron Sanders (7)
and Jaye Howard (7).

Two players, Carodine and freshman quarterback Jordan Reed, have received a
criminal charge for driving while never owning a license.

Dunlap, who fell asleep at the wheel at a Gainesville intersection four days
before the Southeastern Conference Championship Game, has the only DUI
charge among the Gators.

The cases of Cunningham, who avoided arrest, and Doe, who was arrested in
July for driving excessively with a suspended license, resemble a common
tale State Attorney Bill Cervone knows too well.

Someone accumulates too many tickets, possibly doesn't pay them and
eventually gets assessed an "unknowingly" driving with a sus