RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
haters hate - there is no changing their minds. the first stories came out from Miami paper and I was shocked to see only one story about it. then another story from Miami paper was posted. Miami and Tallahassee papers are going to paint the picture that we are worse than USC and worse than Miami and FSU ever were. haters hate - they don't want the truth Now they will plug their ears to the truth - because they knew all along that we were cheating and that was the only reason we have been doing so good all these years while they (won't use that word) were not good. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 ---Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.comDate: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:42 amTo: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com wrote: Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation The Associated Press Published: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Florida and the NCAA are investigating an allegation that former Gators offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey received $100,000 from a representative of a sports agent before last season ended, ESPN.com reported Monday. The allegation stated Pouncey received the money between Florida's loss to Alabama in the Southeastern Conference title game and its Sugar Bowl win over Cincinnati, according to the report. The alleged representative was not named. "We were made aware of some information in early June that we reported to law enforcement and we then shared with the NCAA and the SEC," Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said in a statement. "At this time, we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida." Pouncey was selected 18th overall in this year's NFL draft. His brother, Mike, will be a senior offensive lineman with the Gators next season. Pouncey's agent is Joel Segal, but the allegation is not necessarily tied to him. A message left at Segal's office Monday seeking comment was not immediately returned. If the allegation is true, Pouncey could be ruled ineligible for the Sugar Bowl game and Florida might have to vacate the victory among other potential penalties. The investigation also is the latest involving sports agent-related inquiries in college football. North Carolina announced last week that the NCAA is investigating its football program. South Carolina athletic director Eric Hyman said the NCAA is investigating a possible rules violation of one of its athletic programs. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
right... well how much did UF pay to have this swept under the rug... or I guess UF is immune to any sanctions blah blah etc etc... fact is... they had physical evidence and detailed proof of what happened with Bush... as of right now.. that same evidence doesnt exist with Pouncey.. and to be honest.. I think he's the one that has a kid... and if so I can understand why he would need it.. but ya know... the kid is too smart to make this kind of bumble (i think)... but I could be biased too. I dont see the Pounceys as having the stars (and dollar signs) in their eyes like Reggie Bush did/does. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: haters hate - there is no changing their minds. the first stories came out from Miami paper and I was shocked to see only one story about it. then another story from Miami paper was posted. Miami and Tallahassee papers are going to paint the picture that we are worse than USC and worse than Miami and FSU ever were. haters hate - they don't want the truth Now they will plug their ears to the truth - because they knew all along that we were cheating and that was the only reason we have been doing so good all these years while they (won't use that word) were not good. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:42 am To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.comwrote: Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation The Associated Press Published: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Florida and the NCAA are investigating an allegation that former Gators offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey received $100,000 from a representative of a sports agent before last season ended, ESPN.com http://espn.com/reported Monday. The allegation stated Pouncey received the money between Florida's loss to Alabama in the Southeastern Conference title game and its Sugar Bowl win over Cincinnati, according to the report. The alleged representative was not named. We were made aware of some information in early June that we reported to law enforcement and we then shared with the NCAA and the SEC, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said in a statement. At this time, we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida. Pouncey was selected 18th overall in this year's NFL draft. His brother, Mike, will be a senior offensive lineman with the Gators next season. Pouncey's agent is Joel Segal, but the allegation is not necessarily tied to him. A message left at Segal's office Monday seeking comment was not immediately returned. If the allegation is true, Pouncey could be ruled ineligible for the Sugar Bowl game and Florida might have to vacate the victory among other potential penalties. The investigation also is the latest involving sports agent-related inquiries in college football. North Carolina announced last week that the NCAA is investigating its football program. South Carolina athletic director Eric Hyman said the NCAA is investigating a possible rules violation of one of its athletic programs. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
considering that it was "an anonymous source", UF has denounced it, the Pouncey's have denounced it, and the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about Original Message ----Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 ---Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.comDate: Tue, July 20, 2010 9:19 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com right... "well how much did UF pay to have this swept under the rug"... or "I guess UF is immune to any sanctions" blah blah etc etc... fact is... they had physical evidence and detailed proof of what happened with Bush... as of right now.. that same evidence doesnt exist with Pouncey.. and to be honest.. I think he's the one that has a kid... and if so I can understand why he would need it.. but ya know... the kid is too smart to make this kind of bumble (i think)... but I could be biased too. I dont see the Pounceys as having the stars (and dollar signs) in their eyes like Reggie Bush did/does. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.comwrote: haters hate - there is no changing their minds. the first stories came out from Miami paper and I was shocked to see only one story about it. then another story from Miami paper was posted. Miami and Tallahassee papers are going to paint the picture that we are worse than USC and worse than Miami and FSU ever were. haters hate - they don't want the truth Now they will plug their ears to the truth - because they knew all along that we were cheating and that was the only reason we have been doing so good all these years while they (won't use that word) were not good. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 ---Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.comDate: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:42 amTo: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.comwrote: Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation The Associated Press Published: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Florida and the NCAA are investigating an allegation that former Gators offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey received $100,000 from a representative of a sports agent before last season ended, ESPN.comreported Monday. The allegation stated Pouncey received the money between Florida's loss to Alabama in the Southeastern Conference title game and its Sugar Bowl win over Cincinnati, according to the report. The alleged representative was not named. "We were made aware of some information in early June that we reported to law enforcement and we then shared with the NCAA and the SEC," Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said in a statement. "At this time, we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida." Pouncey was selected 18th overall in this year's NFL draft. His brother, Mike, will be a senior offensive lineman with the Gators next season. Pouncey's agent is Joel Segal, but the allegation is not necessarily tied to him. A message left at Segal's office Monday seeking comment was not immediately returned. If the allegation is true, Pouncey could be ruled ineligible for the Sugar Bowl game and Florida might have to vacate the victory among other potential penalties. The investigation also is the latest involving sports agent-related inquiries in college football. North Carolina announced last week that the NCAA is investigating its football program. South Carolina athletic director Eric Hyman said the NCAA is investigating a possible rules violation of one of its athletic programs. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
well to be fair... Bush denounced it as well... so Im not necessarily inferring that it definitly didnt happen... Ill just take their word for it in the meantime. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:34 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: considering that it was an anonymous source, UF has denounced it, the Pouncey's have denounced it, and the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 9:19 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com right... well how much did UF pay to have this swept under the rug... or I guess UF is immune to any sanctions blah blah etc etc... fact is... they had physical evidence and detailed proof of what happened with Bush... as of right now.. that same evidence doesnt exist with Pouncey.. and to be honest.. I think he's the one that has a kid... and if so I can understand why he would need it.. but ya know... the kid is too smart to make this kind of bumble (i think)... but I could be biased too. I dont see the Pounceys as having the stars (and dollar signs) in their eyes like Reggie Bush did/does. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: haters hate - there is no changing their minds. the first stories came out from Miami paper and I was shocked to see only one story about it. then another story from Miami paper was posted. Miami and Tallahassee papers are going to paint the picture that we are worse than USC and worse than Miami and FSU ever were. haters hate - they don't want the truth Now they will plug their ears to the truth - because they knew all along that we were cheating and that was the only reason we have been doing so good all these years while they (won't use that word) were not good. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:42 am To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com wrote: Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation The Associated Press Published: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Florida and the NCAA are investigating an allegation that former Gators offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey received $100,000 from a representative of a sports agent before last season ended, ESPN.com http://espn.com/ reported Monday. The allegation stated Pouncey received the money between Florida's loss to Alabama in the Southeastern Conference title game and its Sugar Bowl win over Cincinnati, according to the report. The alleged representative was not named. We were made aware of some information in early June that we reported to law enforcement and we then shared with the NCAA and the SEC, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said in a statement. At this time, we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida. Pouncey was selected 18th overall in this year's NFL draft. His brother, Mike, will be a senior offensive lineman with the Gators next season. Pouncey's agent is Joel Segal, but the allegation is not necessarily tied to him. A message left at Segal's office Monday seeking comment was not immediately returned. If the allegation is true, Pouncey could be ruled ineligible for the Sugar Bowl game and Florida might have to vacate the victory among other potential penalties. The investigation also is the latest involving sports agent-related inquiries in college football. North Carolina announced last week that the NCAA is investigating its football program. South Carolina athletic director Eric Hyman said the NCAA is investigating a possible rules violation of one of its athletic programs. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
YES, while that's true - we really don't have much to worry about. I don't want to forfeit ANY wins, unless it's a righteous penalty; i.e we deserve it because we actually cheated. From: ke...@baldwinnc.com ke...@baldwinnc.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:34:14 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] considering that it was an anonymous source, UF has denounced it, the Pouncey's have denounced it, and the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 9:19 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com right... well how much did UF pay to have this swept under the rug... or I guess UF is immune to any sanctions blah blah etc etc... fact is... they had physical evidence and detailed proof of what happened with Bush... as of right now.. that same evidence doesnt exist with Pouncey.. and to be honest.. I think he's the one that has a kid... and if so I can understand why he would need it.. but ya know... the kid is too smart to make this kind of bumble (i think)... but I could be biased too. I dont see the Pounceys as having the stars (and dollar signs) in their eyes like Reggie Bush did/does. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: haters hate - there is no changing their minds. the first stories came out from Miami paper and I was shocked to see only one story about it. then another story from Miami paper was posted. Miami and Tallahassee papers are going to paint the picture that we are worse than USC and worse than Miami and FSU ever were. haters hate - they don't want the truth Now they will plug their ears to the truth - because they knew all along that we were cheating and that was the only reason we have been doing so good all these years while they (won't use that word) were not good. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:42 am To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com wrote: Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation The Associated Press Published: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Florida and the NCAA are investigating an allegation that former Gators offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey received $100,000 from a representative of a sports agent before last season ended, ESPN.com reported Monday. The allegation stated Pouncey received the money between Florida's loss to Alabama in the Southeastern Conference title game and its Sugar Bowl win over Cincinnati, according to the report. The alleged representative was not named. We were made aware of some information in early June that we reported to law enforcement and we then shared with the NCAA and the SEC, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said in a statement. At this time, we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida. Pouncey was selected 18th overall in this year's NFL draft. His brother, Mike, will be a senior offensive lineman with the Gators next season. Pouncey's agent is Joel Segal, but the allegation is not necessarily tied to him. A message left at Segal's office Monday seeking comment was not immediately returned. If the allegation is true, Pouncey could be ruled ineligible for the Sugar Bowl game and Florida might have to vacate the victory among other potential penalties. The investigation also is the latest involving sports agent-related inquiries in college football. North Carolina announced last week that the NCAA is investigating its football program. South Carolina athletic director Eric Hyman said the NCAA is investigating a possible rules violation of one of its athletic programs. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
I grew up in a long cold era where UG had no Sugar Bowl victories (although, wasn't SOS MVP on a team that lost a Sugar Bowl?). Each Sugar Bowl victory remains precious to me. -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:34 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
Gifts from family members are allowed. My problem with this whole situation, if true, is the selfishness of the act. He could have taken the $100k as soon as the game was over, no problem. But by taking it, if he did, before the game he basically thumbed his nose at his teammates and made all of their preparation and sacrifice for naught. From the bits I have read, it sounds like this money was not from the agent he signed with and this agent is now 'leaking; the information out. I am hoping that it went down something like the agent sends a unsolicited check for $100k, Maurkice gets it, doesn't cash it and signs with another agent. He thinks he has done nothing wrong since he never actually took the money and didn't sign with the agent. In any case, while some are trying to make this look bad for Florida, overall it is an NCAA problem and unscrupulous agents. It does seem like the NCAA is really trying hard to enforce it this year, so maybe something good will come from it. Trying to compare this situation to Reggie Bush is laughable. USCw never self reported and denied any wrong-doing, even when agents and runners were allowed at practices. Jeremy has handled this like he has all other issues, with class and integrity. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:01 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Aren't gifts to family members also an NCAA no-no? Don't we still have this guy's brother on the roster? -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Woody wrote: So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
Buy this man a beer! On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: Gifts from family members are allowed. My problem with this whole situation, if true, is the selfishness of the act. He could have taken the $100k as soon as the game was over, no problem. But by taking it, if he did, before the game he basically thumbed his nose at his teammates and made all of their preparation and sacrifice for naught. From the bits I have read, it sounds like this money was not from the agent he signed with and this agent is now ‘leaking; the information out. I am hoping that it went down something like the agent sends a unsolicited check for $100k, Maurkice gets it, doesn’t cash it and signs with another agent. He thinks he has done nothing wrong since he never actually took the money and didn’t sign with the agent. In any case, while some are trying to make this look bad for Florida, overall it is an NCAA problem and unscrupulous agents. It does seem like the NCAA is really trying hard to enforce it this year, so maybe something good will come from it. Trying to compare this situation to Reggie Bush is laughable. USCw never self reported and denied any wrong-doing, even when agents and runners were allowed at practices. Jeremy has handled this like he has all other issues, with class and integrity. -- *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John Vega *Sent:* Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:01 AM *To:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Aren't gifts to family members also an NCAA no-no? Don't we still have this guy's brother on the roster? -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Woody wrote: So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
I bet the anonymous source turns out to be Lane Kiffin! Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:34 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] considering that it was an anonymous source, UF has denounced it, the Pouncey's have denounced it, and the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 9:19 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com right... well how much did UF pay to have this swept under the rug... or I guess UF is immune to any sanctions blah blah etc etc... fact is... they had physical evidence and detailed proof of what happened with Bush... as of right now.. that same evidence doesnt exist with Pouncey.. and to be honest.. I think he's the one that has a kid... and if so I can understand why he would need it.. but ya know... the kid is too smart to make this kind of bumble (i think)... but I could be biased too. I dont see the Pounceys as having the stars (and dollar signs) in their eyes like Reggie Bush did/does. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: haters hate - there is no changing their minds. the first stories came out from Miami paper and I was shocked to see only one story about it. then another story from Miami paper was posted. Miami and Tallahassee papers are going to paint the picture that we are worse than USC and worse than Miami and FSU ever were. haters hate - they don't want the truth Now they will plug their ears to the truth - because they knew all along that we were cheating and that was the only reason we have been doing so good all these years while they (won't use that word) were not good. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:42 am To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com wrote: Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation The Associated Press Published: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Florida and the NCAA are investigating an allegation that former Gators offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey received $100,000 from a representative of a sports agent before last season ended, ESPN.com http://espn.com/ reported Monday. The allegation stated Pouncey received the money between Florida's loss to Alabama in the Southeastern Conference title game and its Sugar Bowl win over Cincinnati, according to the report. The alleged representative was not named. We were made aware of some information in early June that we reported to law enforcement and we then shared with the NCAA and the SEC, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said in a statement. At this time, we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida. Pouncey was selected 18th overall in this year's NFL draft. His brother, Mike, will be a senior offensive lineman with the Gators next season. Pouncey's agent is Joel Segal, but the allegation is not necessarily tied to him. A message left at Segal's office Monday seeking comment was not immediately returned. If the allegation is true, Pouncey could be ruled ineligible for the Sugar Bowl game and Florida might have to vacate the victory among other potential penalties. The investigation also is the latest involving sports agent-related inquiries in college football. North Carolina announced last week that the NCAA is investigating its football program. South Carolina athletic director Eric Hyman said the NCAA is investigating a possible rules violation of one of its athletic programs. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
Well, so far this is just an allegation. Which agent would be stupid enough to risk going to jail over giving a college junior money to sign with him? Is there anyone really that dumb? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:20 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] right... well how much did UF pay to have this swept under the rug... or I guess UF is immune to any sanctions blah blah etc etc... fact is... they had physical evidence and detailed proof of what happened with Bush... as of right now.. that same evidence doesnt exist with Pouncey.. and to be honest.. I think he's the one that has a kid... and if so I can understand why he would need it.. but ya know... the kid is too smart to make this kind of bumble (i think)... but I could be biased too. I dont see the Pounceys as having the stars (and dollar signs) in their eyes like Reggie Bush did/does. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: haters hate - there is no changing their minds. the first stories came out from Miami paper and I was shocked to see only one story about it. then another story from Miami paper was posted. Miami and Tallahassee papers are going to paint the picture that we are worse than USC and worse than Miami and FSU ever were. haters hate - they don't want the truth Now they will plug their ears to the truth - because they knew all along that we were cheating and that was the only reason we have been doing so good all these years while they (won't use that word) were not good. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:42 am To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com wrote: Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation The Associated Press Published: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. Florida and the NCAA are investigating an allegation that former Gators offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey received $100,000 from a representative of a sports agent before last season ended, ESPN.com http://espn.com/ reported Monday. The allegation stated Pouncey received the money between Florida's loss to Alabama in the Southeastern Conference title game and its Sugar Bowl win over Cincinnati, according to the report. The alleged representative was not named. We were made aware of some information in early June that we reported to law enforcement and we then shared with the NCAA and the SEC, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said in a statement. At this time, we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida. Pouncey was selected 18th overall in this year's NFL draft. His brother, Mike, will be a senior offensive lineman with the Gators next season. Pouncey's agent is Joel Segal, but the allegation is not necessarily tied to him. A message left at Segal's office Monday seeking comment was not immediately returned. If the allegation is true, Pouncey could be ruled ineligible for the Sugar Bowl game and Florida might have to vacate the victory among other potential penalties. The investigation also is the latest involving sports agent-related inquiries in college football. North Carolina announced last week that the NCAA is investigating its football program. South Carolina athletic director Eric Hyman said the NCAA is investigating a possible rules violation of one of its athletic programs. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us http://www.gatornet.us/ -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
Even if Pouncey did take money from the agent, it would have to be proven that UF knew about this and that they let him play anyway before the game would be vacated. Jevon Kearse took money and we didn't have to vacate any victories. This is a long way from anything like that. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:05 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] I grew up in a long cold era where UG had no Sugar Bowl victories (although, wasn't SOS MVP on a team that lost a Sugar Bowl?). Each Sugar Bowl victory remains precious to me. -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:34 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
So, what did we have to vacate because of Jevon Kearse? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:55 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Incorrect. Regardless of whether we knew about it or not, if he was ineligible and played we can have the victory vacated. Remember, that was SOWs defense against the cheating scandal - we didn't know they cheated so why should poor Bobby have to vacate wins _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:48 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Even if Pouncey did take money from the agent, it would have to be proven that UF knew about this and that they let him play anyway before the game would be vacated. Jevon Kearse took money and we didn't have to vacate any victories. This is a long way from anything like that. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:05 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] I grew up in a long cold era where UG had no Sugar Bowl victories (although, wasn't SOS MVP on a team that lost a Sugar Bowl?). Each Sugar Bowl victory remains precious to me. -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:34 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
It's not a requirement that you automatically vacate wins, just that is a punishment option. In this case, unless it is proven we should have known or did know, I wouldn't expect us to have to vacate the win. But it is a possibility. If it wasn't it would be a very unenforceable rule, everyone would say, well we didn't know. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:00 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] So, what did we have to vacate because of Jevon Kearse? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:55 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Incorrect. Regardless of whether we knew about it or not, if he was ineligible and played we can have the victory vacated. Remember, that was SOWs defense against the cheating scandal - we didn't know they cheated so why should poor Bobby have to vacate wins _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:48 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Even if Pouncey did take money from the agent, it would have to be proven that UF knew about this and that they let him play anyway before the game would be vacated. Jevon Kearse took money and we didn't have to vacate any victories. This is a long way from anything like that. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:05 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] I grew up in a long cold era where UG had no Sugar Bowl victories (although, wasn't SOS MVP on a team that lost a Sugar Bowl?). Each Sugar Bowl victory remains precious to me. -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:34 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
In USC's case they tried to cover it up rather than report it and remove Bush from the team. Thus, vacated wins. UF isn't doing anything like that. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:06:28 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] It's not a requirement that you automatically vacate wins, just that is a punishment option. In this case, unless it is proven we should have known or did know, I wouldn't expect us to have to vacate the win. But it is a possibility. If it wasn't it would be a very unenforceable rule, everyone would say, well we didn't know. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:00 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] So, what did we have to vacate because of Jevon Kearse? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:55 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Incorrect. Regardless of whether we knew about it or not, if he was ineligible and played we can have the victory vacated. Remember, that was SOWs defense against the cheating scandal - we didn't know they cheated so why should poor Bobby have to vacate wins _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:48 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Even if Pouncey did take money from the agent, it would have to be proven that UF knew about this and that they let him play anyway before the game would be vacated. Jevon Kearse took money and we didn't have to vacate any victories. This is a long way from anything like that. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:05 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] I grew up in a long cold era where UG had no Sugar Bowl victories (although, wasn't SOS MVP on a team that lost a Sugar Bowl?). Each Sugar Bowl victory remains precious to me. -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:34 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football
