Re: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot
I think he should switch to BC Powder and Coke. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: "Jay Cicone" Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:35:37 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot I think Meyer is saying that unless he is 100% involved, the intensity and attention to detail are missing. He will now have to throw his health issues to the wind to right the program, because no one else on the staff has the ability to get the job done. He will toss the Paxil and Ativan and lay it on the line: spitting blood and screaming, motivating like no other, and kicking arse when needed. I expect a dramatic turnaround. Working out a few small but critical details could suddenly result in putting up 40+ points per game and that would also get the D to play up to their potential as they did earlier in the season. Resistance is futile. The dawgs will rue the day. I smell 50 coming and 3 long timeouts in the last minute to rub it in again. How's that? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:25 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot It has been kinda quiet due to the off week, so lets get it started!!! I don't buy into this "its the practice" excuse. Surely our highly paid and successful coaches could tell prior to game 7 and three consecutive losses that our practices were not getting it done... Why was nothing done prior to that, or was there? If something was done, why has it not made a difference? Are we to believe that it took them this long to figure out that the practices were lacking? C'mon! That's weak... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot
Yep! It's better to burn out, than to fade away. Go Gators! Let's get up and go! Shane Ford Sent from my iPhone Go Gators! & Skol Vikes! On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:35 AM, "Jay Cicone" wrote: > I think Meyer is saying that unless he is 100% involved, the intensity and > attention to detail are missing. He will now have to throw his health issues > to the wind to right the program, because no one else on the staff has the > ability to get the job done. He will toss the Paxil and Ativan and lay it on > the line: spitting blood and screaming, motivating like no other, and kicking > arse when needed. I expect a dramatic turnaround. Working out a few small but > critical details could suddenly result in putting up 40+ points per game and > that would also get the D to play up to their potential as they did earlier > in the season. Resistance is futile. The dawgs will rue the day. I smell 50 > coming and 3 long timeouts in the last minute to rub it in again. How’s that? > > > > From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Scott Lucas > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:25 AM > To: Gator Talk > Subject: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot > > > > It has been kinda quiet due to the off week, so lets get it started!!! > > > > I don't buy into this "its the practice" excuse. Surely our highly paid and > successful coaches could tell prior to game 7 and three consecutive losses > that our practices were not getting it done... Why was nothing done prior to > that, or was there? If something was done, why has it not made a difference? > Are we to believe that it took them this long to figure out that the > practices were lacking? > > > C'mon! That's weak... > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot
I think you may be correct... this seems to be much more of a chemistry thing, and you may have nailed the causes. I also understand that he needs to say something, and he certainly knows how to work the media. But, if it was such an obvious fix, why wait so long and do we really think he did wait so long? I'm sure he saw this weeks ago, and if it could be fixed he would have started fixing it weeks ago. I think the past 2 weeks will serve more for 1. Getting healthy and 2. a team meeting and a heart to heart where everyone wants to be a Gator. To put all our problems on bad practices after UM has been quoted as saying we have had good practices is week. This is probably his snowstorm and we have serious internal problems which Ken eluded to. I am hoping that there was a little family bonding the past 2 weeks. From: Ken Kirkley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 11:22:38 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot Or he could be saying something to just say something because fans and media need to here SOMETHING. Urban has always kept things close to the vest and I have never put much stock into what he says, but as Steve said a few weeks back, the urgency in practices has been missing, maybe this is to what he is referring. I still stand by my opinion that we are not that bad. We are inconsistent and have made very bad plays at very bad times. I think the team chemistry is a huge issue, think about this sequence: - having highly touted freshman come in being cocky >- having the senior offensive leader crack back at them through the media >- senior leader then goes out and lays the biggest egg ever >- no playmakers, but a lot of young guys on the sideline that show glimpses of >brilliance (and inexperience) when they get in the game >- 3 straight losses What I hoped happened over the off week was that players and coaches were able to decompress and everyone realize what needs to be done to win. Thinking that Urban and staff haven't seen some specific areas of improvement, doesn't give him much credit. Did he suddenly forget everything that has been successful in the past? Or is it that his system can only be successful with great players? Ken K MNGator From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:25 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot It has been kinda quiet due to the off week, so lets get it started!!! I don't buy into this "its the practice" excuse. Surely our highly paid and successful coaches could tell prior to game 7 and three consecutive losses that our practices were not getting it done... Why was nothing done prior to that, or was there? If something was done, why has it not made a difference? Are we to believe that it took them this long to figure out that the practices were lacking? C'mon! That's weak...-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot
Or he could be saying something to just say something because fans and media need to here SOMETHING. Urban has always kept things close to the vest and I have never put much stock into what he says, but as Steve said a few weeks back, the urgency in practices has been missing, maybe this is to what he is referring. I still stand by my opinion that we are not that bad. We are inconsistent and have made very bad plays at very bad times. I think the team chemistry is a huge issue, think about this sequence: - having highly touted freshman come in being cocky - having the senior offensive leader crack back at them through the media - senior leader then goes out and lays the biggest egg ever - no playmakers, but a lot of young guys on the sideline that show glimpses of brilliance (and inexperience) when they get in the game - 3 straight losses What I hoped happened over the off week was that players and coaches were able to decompress and everyone realize what needs to be done to win. Thinking that Urban and staff haven't seen some specific areas of improvement, doesn't give him much credit. Did he suddenly forget everything that has been successful in the past? Or is it that his system can only be successful with great players? Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:25 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot It has been kinda quiet due to the off week, so lets get it started!!! I don't buy into this "its the practice" excuse. Surely our highly paid and successful coaches could tell prior to game 7 and three consecutive losses that our practices were not getting it done... Why was nothing done prior to that, or was there? If something was done, why has it not made a difference? Are we to believe that it took them this long to figure out that the practices were lacking? C'mon! That's weak... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot
Sounds good to me... but I can't believe he didn't see this til a 3 game losing streak. Is he that out of touch with the practices. That's the part I am having a problem with... However, I love your end result! From: Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 10:35:37 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot I think Meyer is saying that unless he is 100% involved, the intensity and attention to detail are missing. He will now have to throw his health issues to the wind to right the program, because no one else on the staff has the ability to get the job done. He will toss the Paxil and Ativan and lay it on the line: spitting blood and screaming, motivating like no other, and kicking arse when needed. I expect a dramatic turnaround. Working out a few small but critical details could suddenly result in putting up 40+ points per game and that would also get the D to play up to their potential as they did earlier in the season. Resistance is futile. The dawgs will rue the day. I smell 50 coming and 3 long timeouts in the last minute to rub it in again. How’s that? From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:25 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot It has been kinda quiet due to the off week, so lets get it started!!! I don't buy into this "its the practice" excuse. Surely our highly paid and successful coaches could tell prior to game 7 and three consecutive losses that our practices were not getting it done... Why was nothing done prior to that, or was there? If something was done, why has it not made a difference? Are we to believe that it took them this long to figure out that the practices were lacking? C'mon! That's weak... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot
I think Meyer is saying that unless he is 100% involved, the intensity and attention to detail are missing. He will now have to throw his health issues to the wind to right the program, because no one else on the staff has the ability to get the job done. He will toss the Paxil and Ativan and lay it on the line: spitting blood and screaming, motivating like no other, and kicking arse when needed. I expect a dramatic turnaround. Working out a few small but critical details could suddenly result in putting up 40+ points per game and that would also get the D to play up to their potential as they did earlier in the season. Resistance is futile. The dawgs will rue the day. I smell 50 coming and 3 long timeouts in the last minute to rub it in again. How's that? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:25 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot It has been kinda quiet due to the off week, so lets get it started!!! I don't buy into this "its the practice" excuse. Surely our highly paid and successful coaches could tell prior to game 7 and three consecutive losses that our practices were not getting it done... Why was nothing done prior to that, or was there? If something was done, why has it not made a difference? Are we to believe that it took them this long to figure out that the practices were lacking? C'mon! That's weak... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us