Re: g_b Gay anecdotes....
An observation, simple, yet profound... it's very encouraging. thanks for sharing it with us :).MANAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bharatpur Bird Sanctuary RajasthanRecenntly I was at bhratpur bird sanctuary along with a straight friend of mine. As we were watching the siberian birds, the guide who was a old man of 55, told us ,"Saabji, unlike in humans, the male birds are more beautiful then the female birds, 'cause they need to attract the female with their beauty for mating. That's why the peacock is so gifted with beautiful feathers the penhen is ugly featherless. He showed us a white parrot,the male of which has a kalgi a hood on its head, unlike its female counterpart."Though my straiaght friend kept watching attentively, my heart gave a thousand shouts. And I said "The law of beauty holds equally good on humans too baba, and human males are much more gifted and beautiful then the females, and that too without any makeup.The old fello was rather taken a back at my stance, but my straight friend kept smiling looking at me. Yes I am open to himAnd no I never had sex with him!!:-) Regards Manas New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (attachments are removed in the digest mode. You get one or two digest mails per day containing all emails, minus pictures/attachments) No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. To post mates/freinds wanted log on to http://pub35.bravenet.com/classified/show.php?usernum=2998156902 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
g_b Al Capone??
Not just nit-picking, but surely some editing would be nice?? Philip Seymour Hoffman played Al Capone WTF?? *Mumbai Mirror* http://www.mumbaimirror.com/nmirror/mmpaper.asp?sectid=10articleid=32920062238412033292006223736859An actor refusing to do a homosexual role is an insult to a minority*Director Rituparno Ghosh talks about why Bollywood needs to come out of the closet**Subhash K Jha **There are several major mainstream Hollywood films on homosexuality. Whatdid you think of Ang Lee's Brokeback Mountain?*I'd rate Onirban's My Brother Nikhil much higher. I didn't like Brokeback Mountain at all. In fact I quite hated it. I was put off by the abruptnesswith which the love scenes between the two male actors came on. I thoughtthey were unnecessarily sensational and seemed to be put there for titillation. The director was also apologetic about his protagonists' mutualattraction. The idea seems to be, 'Look they aren't gay. But when twoheterosexual males are thrown together in solitude, love may happen'. I found it contrived. I feel filmmakers who have no respect for sexuality – inany form – should refrain from comment. Ang Lee needed to do more researchon homosexual behaviour. I did historical research for Antar Mahal and Chokher Bali. Or I'd have made a fool of myself. In fact the otherOscar-nominated film Capote which had a gay hero, was far superior. PhilipSeymour Hoffman played Al Capone with such textured velocity. *Did the central relationship between Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllanhall inBokeback Mountain work for you?*No. Firstly the ambience was too pretty and it took away from the centralrelationship. Given a choice between the shots of nature and the human Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (attachments are removed in the digest mode. You get one or two digest mails per day containing all emails, minus pictures/attachments) No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. To post mates/freinds wanted log on to http://pub35.bravenet.com/classified/show.php?usernum=2998156902 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
g_b How2start ur day wth a positiv outlook
HOW TO START UR DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK 1. Open a new file in your PC . 2! . Name it Boss 3. Send it to the RECYCLE BIN 4. Empty the RECYCLE BIN 5. Your PC will ask you, Are you sure you want to delete Boss permanently? 6. Answer calmly, Yes, and press the mouse button firmly Feeling better? HAVE A NICE DAY Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (attachments are removed in the digest mode. You get one or two digest mails per day containing all emails, minus pictures/attachments) No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. To post mates/freinds wanted log on to http://pub35.bravenet.com/classified/show.php?usernum=2998156902 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: Re: g_b Marriage is a world-wide accepted tradition
hi all, every debate has to have a end . either we shut up and dont debate or argue on this topic, or have a mutually agreed judge. the official advise of gay bombay counsellors is against marriage by gay men to straight women.this i gathered from some previous postings. why dont we take opinion of a jury of 5 women- not necessarily married to gays- and see what they recommend. if u read and hear in the media, or womens magazines, all are against gays marrying straight women. or some gays who r married can suggest a panel whose advise they wud heed to. bj --- Karna Mehta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ear Salil / Sumeet, Both of you are missing a vital point. The value system of a person that he has acquired in life from his parents, the society he has lived in and the environment. This value system is DIFFERENT for different person. It is this value system that makes people act differently to a given situation and be comfortable with their acts. Gays and marraige is the situation. Some marry and see nothing wrong with it and adjust with their wife and self. Others think that it is completely wrong. Who is to decide what is correct? To each his own. No point in pushing one's convictions down another's throat. Results in unnecessary fruitless arguments because each is going to be guided his value system. Think it over. Society will evolve and the issue will be resolved. Till then we can keep arguing. Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Salil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yes, Sumeet, I respect the tradition of marriage. It provides an anchor to life, makes the man familial, creates stability in society, and creates a mutual support system in old age. So now that we agree on all this, will you join me in wanting that gay marriage be allowed in india so that I can marry my partner soon enough ? He and I have waited for some years now, and it looks like this society which respects the tradition of marriage, doesn't want me to participate in that tradition just because I love a man and not a woman. Will you wish me an early marriage or none at all ? I am sure I and my partner will have a marriage that covers all the good points you mentioned about marriage. By the way, what happens if you tell your wife that you have been having sex with other men, and assuming she is financially independent, she separates from you, meets another man and gets remarried in the next 3 months ? You are the one who will hear nasty and hurtful comments from society, not she. So whom are you really protecting by keeping your mouth shut - yourself or your wife ? You have said that in earlier days gay men were happy getting married, so what has changed now - how do you know that they were happy - who told you ? I say they were not happy but miserable - how do you know either way ? Regards Salil Sumeet Mehra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marriage is a world-wide accepted tradition. People from different community may not agree on any other matters, but everyone agrees on the tradition to marry. This acceptance is not of few years ago but of many centuries ago. Since then there were people liking sex with same gender. But they all use to marry. Yes they were not treated indifferent, adhura or as gud/gay. Then suddenly what has made a change? They lived their part of life very well in those days. Then why not now? What is striking your heavens? They were never told that they could not marry a female and have their own family. The true and real reason of marriage is infact getting lost. Guys dont know the meaning of marriage. Marriage is an anchor, it does not let you stray. By changing the meaning of marriage, you guys will ruin the face of the world. Marriage makes a man responsible because he is family oriented. But guys who don not want to marry, how would they understand the importance of marriage? Some guys even say that one should not hide their likes for guys to his wife. But do they know that some things are good till they are in closet. All types of Truth is not for everyone. Some matter become more bitter if told and could ruin the life. By no means one can call this cheating because its not to harms anyones happiness. I care for their happiness so I hide it. If at all I disclose it and if she accepts it, then the anchor will be gone. Its human tendency, we become shameless when accepted. So guys grow up. How can one think only for his own benefits? How can one overlook the harm that can be caused to the society/world that we live in? Someone here told once that we get one life to live. So we need to live for our happiness. Then where do we differentiate ourselves from animals? Even animals live for themselves. They open their mouth and the food is gulped down in their stomach. But humans have hands, they
g_b 2 way mirror
aru aruna_ This u r information..really it is very useful message for all the ladies. thanks a lot for..,safeguarding HOW TO DETECT A 2-WAY MIRROR When we visit bathrooms, hotel rooms, changing rooms, etc., how many of you know for sure that the seemingly ordinary mirror hanging on the wall is a real mirror, or actually a 2-way mirror (i.e. they can see you, but you can't see them)? There have been many cases of people installing 2-way mirrors in female changing rooms. It is very difficult to positively identify the surface by just looking at it. It's time to get paranoid. So, how do we determine with any amount of certainty? Just conduct this simple test: Place the tip of your fingernail against the reflective surface and if there is a GAP between your fingernail and the image of the nail, then it is a GENUINE mirror. However, if your fingernail DIRECTLY TOUCHES the image of your nail, then BEWARE, for it is a 2-way mirror! So if not at home and changing before a mirror, do the fingernail test. It doesn't cost you anything. It is simple to do, and it might save you from getting visually raped! Share this with all sisters. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (attachments are removed in the digest mode. You get one or two digest mails per day containing all emails, minus pictures/attachments) No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. To post mates/freinds wanted log on to http://pub35.bravenet.com/classified/show.php?usernum=2998156902 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re: g_b Marriage is a world-wide accepted tradition
KarnaWait for another decadeI am sure things will change out there...I wish they do...Here in US , i can see lots of indian guys staying togther as married couples , since years now...CheerosKarna Mehta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Salil / Sumeet,Both of you are missing a vital point.The value system of a person that he has acquired in life from his parents, thesociety he has lived in and the environment. This value system is DIFFERENT fordifferent person. It is this value system that makes people act differently to agiven situation and be comfortable with their acts.Gays and marraige is the situation.Some marry and see nothing wrong with it and adjust with their wife and self.Others think that it is completely wrong.Who is to decide what is correct?To each his own. No point in pushing one's convictions down another's throat.Results in unnecessary fruitless arguments because each is going to be guidedhis value system.Think it over.Society will evolve and the issue will be resolved. Till then we can keeparguing.Get your own "800" numberVoicemail, fax, email, and a lot morehttp://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Salil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yes, Sumeet, I respect the tradition of marriage. It provides an anchor tolife, makes the man familial, creates stability in society, and creates a mutual support system inold age. So now that we agree on all this, will you join me in wanting that gay marriage be allowedin india so that I can marry my partner soon enough ? He and I have waited for some years now, and itlooks like this "society" which respects the tradition of marriage, doesn't want me toparticipate in that tradition just because I love a man and not a woman. Will you wish me an early marriageor none at all ? I am sure I and my partner will have a marriage that covers all the good points youmentioned about marriage. By the way, what happens if you tell your wife that you have been having sexwith other men, and assuming she is financially independent, she separates from you, meets anotherman and gets remarried in the next 3 months ? You are the one who will hear nasty and hurtfulcomments from "society", not she. So whom are you really protecting by keeping your mouth shut - yourselfor your wife ? You have said that in earlier days gay men were happy getting married, sowhat has changed now - how do you know that they were happy - who told you ? I say they were nothappy but miserable - how do you know either way ? Regards Salil Sumeet Mehra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marriage is a world-wide accepted tradition. People from differentcommunity may not agree on any other matters, but everyone agrees on the tradition to marry. This acceptanceis not of few years ago but of many centuries ago. Since then there were people liking sex with samegender. But they all use to marry. Yes they were not treated indifferent, adhura or as gud/gay. Then suddenly what has made a change? They lived their part of life verywell in those days. Then why not now? What is striking your heavens? They were never told that theycould not marry a female and have their own family. The true and real reason of marriage is infact getting lost. Guysdon#8217;t know the meaning of marriage. Marriage is an anchor, it does not let you stray. By changing themeaning of marriage, you guys will ruin the face of the world. Marriage makes a man responsible because he is family oriented. But guys whodon not want to marry, how would they understand the importance of marriage? Some guys even say that one should not hide their likes for guys to hiswife. But do they know that some things are good till they are in closet. All types of Truth is not for everyone. Some matter become more bitter iftold and could ruin the life. By no means one can call this cheating because it#8217;s not to harmsanyone#8217;s happiness. I care for their happiness so I hide it. If at all I disclose it and if she accepts it,then the anchor will be gone. Its human tendency, we become shameless when accepted. So guys grow up. How can one think only for his own benefits? How can oneoverlook the harm that can be caused to the society/world that we live in? Someone here told once that we get one life to live. So we need to live forour happiness. Then where do we differentiate ourselves from animals? Even animals live for themselves. They open their mouth and the food isgulped down in their stomach. But humans have hands, they collect it and share it with theirfamily. Family, often heard word, but mostly ignored by certain guys in this list. Now even you guys willbe in need to change the meaning of family. I read a mail of one guy, don know his name. He stated that the day his bfallows him to go for adoption he will adopt a child. I think he is still in his fantasies. He doesnot know the legal proceedings of adoption. Alice Please come out of your wonderland! He
g_b The 8th Habit
The 8th Habit From Effectiveness to Greatness Dr. Stephen R. Covey 1. The best way to learn is to teach. Because when one teaches one learns twice. 2. When the learner doesn't learn the teacher doesn't teach. 3. There are 5 reasons why one needs to teach in order to learn : a. One learns better when there is a Paradigm shift. And a Paradigm shift takes place when one shifts one's role. From being a learner one has to become a teacher. When a person is made accountable and has to demonstrate results then the paradigm will shift. To get children to learn better have children consistently teach you (parents) what they are learning. They are now made accountable for teaching you (parents). Let them start with the subjects they are most interested in. When the children become responsible to teach you (parents) then their learning is not dependent on the teacher or the subject. The paradigm shifts. They begin to enjoy learning. They begin to love learning for its own sake. The motivation moves from external to internal. To remain relevant and current, one needs to study, read and 'turn the TV down'. In order to get the children and members of the family to realize what happens to learning and family life etc. with the TV on, one gets hold of the data and facts and shares the same with them and asks them to discuss and decide what to do. b. The real key to learning is applying and doing. c. It improves one's ability to listen. Most people haven't learnt to listen. Most often we listen within our frame of reference. Therefore it becomes a matter of agreeing/disagreeing with the other person. When one listens within one's own frame of reference then one engages in 'transaction'. 'Transaction' leads to compromise. However at the empathetic level we listen within the others' frame of reference. This is when one attains synergy. Synergy requires transformation. Listening means understanding but not necessarily agreeing. Everybody has got a hierarchy of needs. If one sucks the air out of this room and asks people to stay back and listen people will point blank refuse. What air is to the body, feeling understood is to the heart. When one tries to understand the other, what one is saying is 'I respect you. I see the God within you. I want to understand you and not just be understood by you'. This attitude of wanting to understand the other and make the other feel understood creates an immune system. People gradually experience a confidence of being able to handle any problem if they approach it in this way. In synergy the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Through listening both get transformed. One is humbled and experiences vulnerability. One doesn't know what is going to happen. It opens up the others' world to you. When one operates with moral authority then one is operating as an individual like Gandhi or Nelson Mandela. However, this moral authority or behaviour based on principles needs to be institutionalized. One has to build these principles into structures, systems and processes. These principles get institutionalized through, for example, the Constitution. Nehru had positional authority while Gandhi had moral authority. While listening it takes a lot of courage and discipline to withhold one's judgement. Creative energy replaces defensiveness and protectiveness. To practise listening one can use the 'Indian Talking Stick' approach. The Indian Talking Stick is a physical object. When one is holding this physical object then one is permitted to talk while the other listens. When one has finished then the stick is passed onto the other who first has to state your point of view to your satisfaction before stating his/her point of view. And so on. d. It makes change legitimate. The moment you accept my position as being appropriate and acknowledge that you may have been wrong you are making it ok for me to change too. e. It builds strong relationships. 4. The more one operates from a Principle centred perspective the more one will be given formal authority. 5. Moral principles have to be institutionalized through the creation of structures and processes in order to develop sustainability. Otherwise the implementation of these moral principles will be dependent on individuals. 6. Purpose and values govern every other decision. Usually everyone is on a different page regarding the
