Re: g_b Honeymoon Travels Vs. Eklavya !

[Icarius Slade]

Hi there "abc def" & pals !

Thanks for pointing out my mistake regarding Minisha Lamba's name...totally 
agree with U "abc def", regarding the picturization of "sajnaa re vaari 
vaari"..i think its so captivating as the dance moves are so free & without 
any elaborate choreography (at least it SEEMS those ways)u can just feel 
the free spirit hit you Bang ! rite on ur face & get taken with it :-) I'm sure 
in the latest gb parties, that song would be played quite frequently..hey ! 
I'm listening to it on my MP3 player right now, on a loop !!! ;-)  Gee ! I'm 
such a sucker for dance-able numbers !!! ;-) So, just in case I "grace" any gb 
party (studies usually don't allow me the time), u guys would be able to easily 
identify me as the guy who does the wildest & most "free-spirited" dance moves 
;-)


Njoy Eklavya & everyonehave a FANTABULOUS week ahead of you :-)



Cheers,
I
:-)


- Original Message 
From: abc def <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:29:33 PM
Subject: Re: g_b Honeymoon Travels Vs. Eklavya !

Hey Icarius & all the Friends,
 
I jst saw Honeymoon Travels Pvt. Ltd. today only and completely agree with your 
views...I loved the way Gay thing is portrayed in this movie...and of course 
loved both Guys too...!!!Let me correct you in one pointthe girl with Abhay 
Deol is not Isha Sarwani,but she is Minisha Lamba..(from 'Naam Ada Likhna' - 
Yahaan).Abhay looked cute too!
 
And Eklavya i have yet to see(got the info about the gay aspect there also 
, from your mail, i didn't know this !)
 
Guys, watch HTPL...It's a nice light comedy movie...The song 'Tu hi to mera 
sansar re' is picturised too well!!!
 
Rgds...

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g_b Blood So Impure ???? Please Read..........

[Monty Singh]

Dear Friends,

Please stop doubting Doctors and Medical Personnels
un-necessarily.Whatever they are doing is for the
best of the Patient. In the process if u felt
uncomfortable, remember, it was for a 'good n
self-less' reason to benefit 'your patient' whom u
wanted to 'help' by donating your blood !

Please read on as I try to Simplify it for Everyone's
Benefit:

Blood Banks r worried about 'High Risk" behaviour:

1. Hetero or Homo sex without condom with more than
one partner during same period or change partners one
after another, so u may have lost track of the other
person's health status, esp. those who go for
'one-night stands'.. 

2. Sharing of needles for medicine or 'drugs'

3. Regular visit to Barbershop for shaving where the
razor is shared

4. Recent Body-piercings

5. History of receiving recent bloodtransfusion during
a surgery

6. Vaccination for Hepatitis B etc..

No direct questions like 'Are u a Homo?' are asked.

And if asked, why worry? It is just to remind you that
it is 'important' life-style factor you yourself
should be aware of, as it is vital for the patient's
health, though u do not see any direct link !! 

Invariably, 'one-in-ten-thousand' person will write
'yes' as answer !! So, nobody is expecting a 'true'
answer so long as you reply correctly to your 'Inner
Conscience" !!!

This is all part of the first segment of Donor
Selection known as "Self-Deferral", which according to
researchers is the 'most important' step in Donor
selection. 

Why ? Read On

This is meant for a person to 'Read' and decide for
himself whether he would like to give blood after
being reminded of such situations where accidental
introduction of HIV or Hepatitis Viruses might have
taken  place in his Body !

If so, politely back-up from giving bloodNo
questions asked. It is up to you to disclose the
reason for which u find yourself unsuitable for blood
donation.

By giving Blood Donation and hiding your 'status' of
'Risk Behaviour', you might Actually 'Harm' your
Friend !

Because one can never be sure of 'his own health' if
he has indulged in these activities, reason being:

1. U might be in "Window Period" of an infection when
it is present in your blood and can be transferred to
person receiving your blood, BUT YOU YOURSELF FEEL
HEALTHY AND WITHOUT PROBLEM, 'till the window period
is OVER' and u start feeling ill !

Or you may continue to feel 'normal' and be a
'Carrier" of the infection...the person receiving
your blood will fall ill!!

What Next ?

After u have decided to go ahead and give blood
donation, a Doctor will interview on 'one-to-one'
basis and ask you a series of questions to make sure
that you might have answerer Self-deferral questions
'reliably'! If he has slightest doubt, he will
'reject' you as a donor.

Next he will examine your Arms for checking any signs
for previous needle pricks. This rules out
'professional' donors (who sell blood for money)
posing as patient's relatives and those who have
hidden the info regarding needle injections..

If one can pass his way thru' all this, the Blood you
donate is tested for HIV, Hepatitis B & C, Syphilis
and Malaria. If there is slightest hint of Positivity,
it will be rejected and destroyed !

BUT, BUT, BUT, this testing procedure fails again "IF
YOU ARE IN WINDOW PERIOD" !!! Because then the
infection is too weak to be detected.

Blood Banks use most sensitive tests for these
infections, still there is a small 'window period' of
a few days during which infection fails to be detected
and the 'unfortunate' recipient of such blood suffers
ultimately !

So, we come back to the first point of "Self
Deferral". We, as responsible and sincere citizens and
members of society, and most importantly - Relatives
or Friends of the patient whom we are trying to
'help', should answer and respond to self-deferral
questionnaire 'most honestly'.

In short: "If you are in Doubt, Don't Donate Blood"

You will Never Regret Your Decision !

Hope i have been able to explain it all clearly...
So, stop sulking and keep smiling, as there are many
other ways to be of service to humanity, than
'overloading' the bloodbanks with such donations that
will ultimately go down the drain !!!

Love u all !!

Monty




 

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Re: g_b from DNA: can brands go bent?

[Yabadabadoo]

hmmm, sometime in the 90's we had a brand of jeans or denims break that barrier 
in a not-so-subtle kind of way. i forget which brand it was, but i do remember 
the visual, where we had two muscled (read long haired, rock music maniac, 
swarthy macho) men, one with his back to the viewer, and one facing us with the 
look that defied any perceptions of the GAY man in India at that time (which 
was still not very different from the pinkoo character played by Anupam Kher in 
a cheese flick early on in the decade). Does anyone one know about it? it was a 
series of ads, of which one was this. i don't know if it created a furore in 
the moral sections of the society, but at least it had the i don't give a f$%& 
what you think! would love to get a copy of that ad.

Vikram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Yet another non-story created 
primarily out of a desire to fill space 
and look cool by taking a gay angle. Still this is marginally better 
done than some of the others that have appeared recently. 

Like the HT story (front page lead!) which tried to interpret the 
Motorola ad with the Dolce and Gabbana endorsement as evidence that 
Motorola was advertising to gays in India (would have loved to be in 
the Motorola office when that came out!). Followed by another in HT 
about how St.Petersburg was now the Indian gay holiday destination of 
choice. I know quite a few rich gay guys, but they're more likely to 
go to Panjim than St.Petersburg! 

This story at least speaks to a few people and explores the issue of 
gay imagery in Indian ads - though the writer misses out on several 
old ones, like some print ads with explicit gay angles, mostly 
intended to shock, a Chlorets ad which I think is now on 
corporateclosets.com or that Onida (?) ad with a trans character. And 
the story does seem to acknowledge that the situation is a sad one 
which should change as attitudes change in India. 

On the whole, as a gay man, I'm glad to see such stories which talk 
about gay issues in India in generally positive terms, however much, 
as a journalist, I might deplore their essential vacuousness. And DNA 
carried the story well, giving it large space and a decent layout. 
Also particular thanks to the writer for not using 'pink rupee', a 
term that particularly makes me want to throw up!

Vikram

Brands stray off the straight path...
Sumita Vaid Dixit 
Friday, March 02, 2007 23:53 IST

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1082761

...Some of them are coming out of the closet.


Have you seen an Orangee ad? The Parle candy makes men, women and 
kids pucker their lips as they suck the liquid. In one ad, two men 
are shown peeing, and one of them begins to pucker his lips, 
suggesting a certain kind of behaviour. However, it is the candy that 
compels people to pucker as the tag line suggests `Choos ke khao'. 
Then there's a suiting ad, where a dude congratulates his pal at his 
wedding and runs his fingers suggestively down his suiting-clad back.

Tired of being straight?'' asks an ad from a Fructis hair styling 
product. Snap to two blonde girls looking suggestively at each other, 
spiked hair in place. Worldwide, a `Mechanics' spot for Snickers bar 
shows two mechanics eating opposite ends of the bar till their lips 
meet and they break apart

Buckle up for what is viewed as homosexual behaviour, alternative 
sexuality, etc in communications. It hardly raises an eyebrow 
overseas, but could stir some excitement here.

Then there's another ad for Parle Xhale which runs on the lines of 
adult mint…

Samarjeet Shimpi, associate vice-president, Triton Communications, 
says that the ad for Xhale was conceived from the perspective that 
the Xhale mint charms people. We see all the members of the girls 
family rubbing against the boy's toes under the table; it suggests 
an emotion that goes beyond the bounds of charm. 

The father who is authoritarian figure, in the end gives the boy a 
certain look that borders on alternate sexual behaviour. Shimpi 
clarifies again that the team had not set off on that intention, 
however, over several drafts and retakes, the storyline evolved. The 
ad was researched and no one found the ad objectionable. For that 
matter Parle had no apprehensions running the ad considering the ad 
touched upon a sensitive subject, though in a light manner.

Far from it, the ad got a few laughs. As a matter of fact, this is 
the best ads can do with alternate sexuality in ads - get laughs. 
Shimpi says that at the moment, a bold subject such as homosexuality 
could be dealt with in storylines to the point of humour. Overstep 
that and one would be in a dangerous territory. No wonder, 
homosexuality rarely finds expression in mainstream media. The 
fashion industry seems to be the only community to have accepted it, 
but otherwise, the subject and its expression remain largely tabooed. 

The reason for this is essentially closed Indian society. "It is 
still conservative, and to talk about homosexuality n

g_b cute visitor seeks gayboys in mumbai

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Re: g_b Blood So Impure ????

[Icarius Slade]

Hi Walnut !

Trust me, on seeing that disparaging remark on the blood-donation form, I was 
staring at the hospital admn with so much rage & indignation that if looks 
could kill, they all would have been assasinated a 1000 & 1 times !!! But 
better sense prevailed. I just though that by bringing this incidence to the 
attention of people around here, somebody who has the power to look into such 
things & perhaps bring about some change. i definetly have a good mind of going 
& speaking to them sometime soon



Cheers everyone !

"I"
:-)


- Original Message 
From: walnut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:41:47 PM
Subject: Re: g_b Blood So Impure 

You took a right decision dude. You should have spat on that paper and given it 
to the doctor. But donating blood to your friend was more important than such 
pitty things.
cheers
Walnut

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g_b from the Times: Matthew Parris on John Inman and the value of open secrets

[Vikram]

Those of us with long memories, and with nothing better to do, way 
back in early Eighties, than watch Doordarshan, will remember the 
British comedy series Are You Being Served that was intermittently 
aired. 

Set in a large department store, it was crude as hell, but god bless 
our innocent hearts because we all that it was cutting edge comedy 
(actually, maybe not, but we didn't have much choice), full of 
screamingly stereotyped characters - and no one more screaming than 
John Inman who played the obviously gay Mr.Humphries. 

Obviously, but never overtly stated, even when you get jokes like 
this: 

Miss Brahms (pretty shop assistant): Why are they call jockey shorts? 
Mr Humphries: Because you know you're past the winning line when 
you're close enough to grab the pole. 

Or words to that effect, which I'd certainly never heard before on DD 
or anywhere else for that matter (I was deprived, didn't go to 
boarding school). I'd only vaguely started realising what gay was, 
and here was an example right on my grandparent's TV (my parents 
didn't believe in having a TV, you see what I mean by deprived). 

I suppose if I knew more I might have been outraged by the stereotype 
of the campy queen, but I didn't and this was enough to work on for 
the moment then. A little later My Beautiful Launderette would be 
aired and all would be made quite clear by Daniel Day-Lewis and 
Gordon Warnecke (so lovely, whatever happened to him?). 

But John Inman was clearly important, for me and so many others, as 
is evident from the flood of reminiscences and tributes that have 
followed his death last week. Matthew Parris in the Times did a 
particular good one, expanding it to a larger tribute to that 
controversial thing: the open secret. 

The open secret is something we are, of course, familiar enough with 
here, and as Parris says, one can see its value. Karan Johar is the 
obvious example, though given the hints he drops on his show, its 
hardly much of a secret. There are others too I guess, and will be 
more since I think we're still at the open secret stage. 

But hopefully things will change, and one of these days we might be 
able, like Parris, to look back on it as something that was valuable, 
but whose time has largely passed, 

Vikram


I'm free – and it's all because of men like John Inman
by Matthew Parris 

I raise a salute to that lifesaving human compromise, the open 
secret. I raise a salute to a band of comrades who, each in their 
different ways, were the keepers through a dark age of an open 
secret. My salute is to a dying breed: a breed whose ranks thinned 
again in the small hours of Thursday morning when John Inman passed 
away. 

Hail to them all: the ludicrous old queens; the drag artists; the 
pantomime homosexuals; the florid epicureans; the indulgent priests; 
the sensitive young men in tight trousers; and the wan aesthetes. And 
hail, too, to their quieter cousins: the discreetly confirmed 
bachelors and "he never married" brigade, the don't-ask-don't-tell 
soldiers, and the dignified loners who just preferred to stay single 
and wouldn't say why. Theirs — all of theirs — to protect and guard 
was a precious thing: the open secret. 

For gay men in the 20th century the open secret was sometimes 
literally a lifesaver. It was the narrowest of territories: the half-
acre that lies somewhere between absolute denial and outright 
confession, between dishonesty and disgrace. This was a hard place to 
be in 1970, a narrow line to walk. If our oh-so-modern, who-gives-a-
damn, 21st-century gays, of whom I am one, suppose that these men 
were not brave, that they were not trail-blazers, not part of the 
struggle, then we don't know the half of it. 

And some of us, it seems, don't. Already I hear the cry — "living a 
lie", "set back the cause", "self-oppression", "an insulting 
stereotype" — from a gay lobby that has taken about five minutes to 
forget what a dark age England was for us, what light an Inman, a 
Kenneth Williams, a Danny La Rue or, from America, a Liberace brought 
into it, and how outrageous, how valiant, those people were. 

About five minutes to forget, too, that the people who wanted these 
men taken off the stage, screen and wireless, were not the gay-rights 
campaigners but the bigots and guardians of conservative 
morality. "Sexual perversion", they said, wasn't entertainment: it 
was wicked and dangerous — and bad taste. The BBC, contemplating 
making a series of Are You Being Served?, tried at first to insist 
that Mr Humphries was removed. 

How fast we forget context. Always a bit of a giggle to their own 
era, the Inmans, La Rues and Williamses of the last century are now 
disowned by their newly brave inheritors: the lately and boldly Out. 

John Inman's breath had barely left his body before right-on 
spokesmen for that imaginary thing, the "gay community", were 
berating the "self-oppression" and "stereotyping" of homosexuals that 
Inman's Mr Humphries helped to 

g_b Bottom visiting Baroda on 19th March and Mumbai on 20th March

[love you]

Hi friends,

I am 35, 5'11 slim fair cln shaven bottom.

I will be in Baroda on 19th evening and in Mumbai on 20th night.

I will stay in Alka Puri in Baroda and Powai, Andheri east in Mumbai

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g_b Re: Please reply if you are the person i met yesterday

[kambli_gajanan]

--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, vicky sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>   I just met some one very hadsome in train who got down at mahim 
station with me yesterday night at 8.35 PM while coming from dadar in 
andheri train.That time i didnt had any guts to ask him his name or 
number. But i regret it now as i cant stop thinking about him since 
the moment i met him. If you are out their please reply to my mail as 
i'ld love to have friendship with you.
>
>   please, please, please, please, please, please, please relpy to 
this...
>   Awaiting for you
>   Hi, i am not the person whom you met. have you found anyone. 
>
> 
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> -
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Re: g_b WRIST BANDS

[Roger F]

I think the point is not to identify bottom/top/versitile it's more to identify 
being gay.  Have you never been out in a non-gay specific place such as a store 
saw someone you found attractive, but should you approach or not?  Should you 
decide to approach and he turns out to be hetero, he may just turn you down, or 
beat the crap out of you.  My understanding with wrist bands is that you don't 
have to wonder, if the person you see has a wrist band to identify gay the only 
thing you risk is being turned down.
   
  Let's face it straight people don't have to worry, if a guy walks up to a 
girl to talk does he need to worry about hetero/homo, the answer is NO, if she 
turns out to be a lesbian she is not exactly going to start calling names or 
hitting the guy.  Do you get the point or am I just rambling on?
   
  Roger

Ramesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree with Cooper.  Why must we wear our sexuality on our sleeve (or 
wrist?).  Do heterosexual men wear some sort of identification to let the girls 
know they're "straight" (hate the term)?  It's time the gay world stopped being 
so paranoid about being able to get the right catch.  There's nothing wrong 
with bumbling our way through relationships the same as the rest of the world 
does.  


manu nehru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cooper,
  I think he was just suggesting that wrist bands or some such thing be worn 
for gays to easily identify each other and thus avoid running into the wrong 
guys.
  Manu

doc cop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hi
  yesterday someone was inquiring about coloured wrist bands to show there 
sexual preferances
  Why should one where his sexuality on his hand???
   
  hetrosexuals have a wide range of sexual preferances
  do they wear it on their hands
  they find a freind and see if that person can b a mate too
  and tehn explore the sexual compatibility and normally make the best out of it
   
  hence why should gays make the sex preferance their identity or the priority 
in finding a freind
   
  cooper


  
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g_b DUBAI - mumbai

[greatguy775]

hi guys, Have just joined this group. I am from Bombay settled in 
dubai and only wish that the life was as colourful as it is in Amchi 
Mumbai in Gay scene. Its very difficult to meet like wise people and 
cultivate friendship with guys of same orientation. most of the GAY 
sites and portals are blocked by proxy. In short its DRY here in Dubai.
I am 33, 5'6 68 kilos, decent educated disease and drug free well 
placed accounts manager in media. looking for likewise guys in Dubai 
who are from bombay and seeks frienship and fun. Please write direct 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as most of the time this site is blocked as 
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g_b from NYT: generation change

[Vikram]

Grounds for hope maybe? And will we see the same shift in this 
country? 

from the New York Times: 
The Way We Live Now: Beyond the Pleasure Principle 
By ANN HULBERT
Published: March 11, 2007

It is a point of pride among baby boomers that after our kids leave 
home, we enjoy a continuing closeness with them that our parents 
rarely had with us. We certainly do keep in touch: 80 percent of 18- 
to 25-year-olds had talked to their parents in the past day, 
according to "A Portrait of Generation Next," a recent study 
conducted by the Pew Research Center in tandem with MacNeil/Lehrer 
Productions. Yet if the survey is any guide, Gen Nexters aren't 
getting the credit they deserve for being — as many of them told 
pollsters they felt they were —"unique and distinct." It is not easy 
carving out your niche in the shadow of parents who still can't get 
over what an exceptional generation they belong to.

So what is special about Gen Nexters? Don't count on them to capture 
their own quintessence. "The words and phrases they used varied 
widely," the Pew researchers noted, "ranging from `lazy' to `crazy' 
to `fun.' " But if you look closely, what makes Gen Nexters sui 
generis — and perhaps more mysterious than their elders appreciate — 
are their views on two divisive social topics, abortion and gay 
marriage. On the by-now-familiar red-and-blue map of the culture 
wars, positions on those issues are presumed to go hand in hand: 
those on the right oppose both as evidence of a promiscuous society 
and those on the left embrace them as rights that guarantee privacy 
and dignity. Yet as a group, Gen Nexters seem to challenge the 
package deals.

Young Americans, it turns out, are unexpectedly conservative on 
abortion but notably liberal on gay marriage. Given that 18- to 25-
year-olds are the least Republican generation (35 percent) and less 
religious than their elders (with 20 percent of them professing no 
religion or atheism or agnosticism), it is curious that on abortion 
they are slightly to the right of the general public. Roughly a third 
of Gen Nexters endorse making abortion generally available, half 
support limits and 15 percent favor an outright ban. By contrast, 35 
percent of 50- to 64-year-olds support readily available abortions. 
On gay marriage, there was not much of a generation gap in the 1980s, 
but now Gen Nexters stand out as more favorably disposed than the 
rest of the country. Almost half of them approve, compared with under 
a third of those over 25.

It could simply be, of course, that some young people are pro-gay 
marriage and others are pro-life and that we can expect more of the 
same old polarized culture warfare ahead of us. But what if Gen 
Nexters, rather than being so, well, lazy, are forging their own new 
crossover path? When I contacted John Green, an expert on religious 
voters who is currently working at the Pew Forum on Religion and 
Public Life, he said that pollsters hadn't tackled that question. But 
after crunching some numbers, he suggested that there might indeed be 
a middle way in the making. Many individual Gen Nexters hold what 
seem like divergent views on homosexuality and government involvement 
with morality — either liberal on one while being conservative on the 
other or else confirmed in their views on one question while 
ambivalent on the other.

Oh, how these young people can confound us! All this could amount to 
no more than what the experts call a "life-cycle effect": Gen Nexters 
may hold heterogeneous views now because they are exploring diverse 
values that may congeal in more conventional ways as they get older. 
But a more intriguing possibility is that it is a "cohort effect," a 
distinctive orientation that will stick with them. Liberals could 
take heart that perhaps homosexual marriage has replaced abortion as 
the new "equality issue" for Gen Nexters, suggested John Russonello, 
a Washington pollster whose firm is especially interested in social 
values; Gen Nexters may have grown up after the back-alley abortion 
era, but they haven't become complacent about sexual rights. 
Conservatives might take comfort from a different hypothesis that 
Green tried out: maybe Gen Nexters have been listening to their 
parents' lectures about responsibility. Don't do things that make you 
have an abortion, young people may have concluded, and do welcome 
everyone into the social bulwark of family responsibility.

Put the two perspectives together, and an ethos emerges that looks at 
once refreshingly pragmatic and yet still idealistic. On one level, 
Gen Nexters sound impatient with a strident stalemate between 
entrenched judgments of behavior; after all, experience tells them 
that in the case of both abortion and gay rights, life is complicated 
and intransigence has only impeded useful social and political 
compromises. At the same time, Gen Nexters give every indication of 
being attentive to the moral issues at stake: they aren't willing to 
ig

g_b Pastor's Ass

[naughty confessions]

Pastor's Ass

A pastor wanted to raise money for his church and, on being told there was a 
fortune in horse racing, decided to buy one and enter it in the races. 

However, at the local auction, the going price for a horse was so high that he 
ended up buying a donkey instead. 

He thought that since he had it, he might as well go ahead and entered it in 
the race and, much to his surprise, the donkey came in third. 

The next day the local paper carried this headline: 

PASTOR'S ASS SHOWS 

The pastor was so pleased with the donkey that he entered it in the race again, 
and this time it won. 

The local paper read: 

PASTOR'S ASS OUT FRONT

The Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he ordered the pastor 
not to enter the donkey in another race. 

The next day, the local paper headline read: 

BISHOP SCRATCHES PASTOR'S ASS

This was too much for the Bishop, so he ordered the pastor to get rid of the 
donkey. 

The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a nearby convent. 

The local paper, hearing of the news, posted the following headline the next 
day: 

NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN

The Bishop fainted. He informed the nun that she would have to get rid of the 
donkey, so she sold it to a farmer for ten dollars. 

The next day, the paper read: 

NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10 

This was too much for the Bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the donkey 
and lead it to the plains where it could run wild. 

Headlines read: 

NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE 

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RE: g_b Blood So Impure ????

[Raj Sahani]

Your doubts are true. Even i faced the same kind stuff
when i went fro the donation with the Appolos.. The
only indication was basically since gays have the high
intensity to acquire th Transmitted Disease and nothin
elde.. I never gave a second thought abount it and
neither should anyone. Only one thing is that there
must be some lines in the Form for the straight ppl as
well such as: Did you ever go to the Brothel etc..

Dont worry Manthan ... such stupid things do not scare
and neither our blood impure... 
Just dnt give a damn and enjoy..

Love,
Raj



--- Manthan Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I wonder if a person with blood sugar level upto 200
> should donate blood???
> Can anyone throw some light on this. Also I want to
> know, is there any
> impact on gay life due to this high level of blood
> sugar.
>  
> Regards,
> Manthan.
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of icarius_slade
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:43 AM
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: g_b Blood So Impure 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi guys !
> 
> Sometime back, i had gone to donate blood at the
> bloodbank of 
> Lilavati Hospital at Bandra, for a friend of mine,
> who was in urgent 
> need of it. Before the needful was done however, we
> had to fill in a 
> (sort of) medical history form where stuff like
> whether u were 
> sufferring from asthma, jaundice etc. were
> asked.pretty normal 
> fare. And then, i froze ! Somewhere down below was a
> qustion "R U a 
> homosexual ?" I was obviously shocked !
> 
> What is the need for asking such a stupid question ?
> How on earth 
> could a respectable hospital like Lilavati, where
> all the top 
> filmstars etc. go for their treatment, be so
> regressive ? I asked 1 
> of my doctor pals & he said that the Govt. of india
> had definetly not 
> made any such idiotic norm. Then why this
> discrimination ? 
> 
> The only reason i could come up with was that
> because of the 
> stereotype of gays being promiscious, we perhaps
> fell under some kind 
> of high-risk category & hence, if i'd have ticked
> "yes", they'd have 
> denied me permission to donate blood, DESPITE me
> being completely 
> healthy ! But why this discrimination against us ?
> Does this mean 
> that heterosexuals have "purer" blood ? For all u
> know, the hetero 
> guy/gal standing by my side might be HIV+ve while I
> am not & still my 
> blood may not be given, purely for me being a
> gay.and the patient 
> may just die.
> 
> I was reminded of one episode in Queer as Folk (the
> US version) where 
> Brian is denied from giving his blood to save Mike,
> just because he 
> was gay.If this can happen in a "developed" society
> like the US, what 
> abt. lesser mortals like us ?
> 
> VERY HESITATINGLY, i had to tick the "No" column, as
> the patient 
> reqd. blood urgently and there was no time to be
> wasted on arguments. 
> It wrenched my heart, but i didn't have any option.
> I had to attend 
> to another urgent engagement that day due to which,
> i had to push off 
> early. Do other hospitals in Bby, or for that
> matter, anywhere else 
> in India, ask for this criterion ? What logic does
> it serve ? Thought 
> that i'd bring it to the attention of every member
> of this group...
> 
> Icarius
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 




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g_b Books to raise gay issues among UK primary school pupils

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The prince married a man, and lived happily ever afterReligious groups attack 
circulation of books raising gay issues among primary school pupils
Anushka Asthana, education correspondent
Sunday March 11, 2007
Observer
A
pilot scheme introducing books dealing with gay issues to children from
the ages of four to 11 has just been launched in England's schools.It
is being argued that the books, one of which is a fairytale featuring a
prince who turns down three princesses before falling in love and
marrying a man, are necessary to make homosexuality seem normal to
children. Fourteen schools and one local authority, backed by teaching
unions and a government-funded organisation, are running the
controversial scheme, which has been attacked by Christian groups.
Twenty
years ago the publication of Jenny Lives With Eric And Martin for use
in schools led to an angry public debate. In response the government
passed Section 28, an amendment to the Local Government Act 1988, that
prevented local authorities and, by extension, schools from 'promoting
homosexuality' or its acceptability as a 'pretended family
relationship'. The amendment was repealed in 2003 and this is the first
large-scale attempt to put similar books back into the curriculum.
Other books on the list of recommended texts for the schools, which
have not been named, include a story about a spacegirl with two mothers
and a baby penguin with two fathers. If successful, the scheme will be
extended nationwide.
'The
most important thing these books do is reflect reality for young
children,' said Elizabeth Atkinson, director of the No Outsiders
project that is being run by Sunderland and Exeter universities and the
Institute of Education (IoE) in London. 'My background is in children's
literature and I know how powerful it is in shaping social values and
emotional development. What books do not say is as important as what
they do.' Atkinson argued that leaving images of gay relationships out
of children's books was 'silencing a social message', and could end up
with children being bullied later in their school lives if they were
gay or were perceived as gay. Atkinson and co-director Renee DePalma
have received nearly £600,000 in funding from the Economic and Social
Research Council and backing from the National Union of Teachers and
General Teaching Council.
Waterstone's
last week alerted its chain of shops to the titles that include King
& King, Asha's Mums and Spacegirl Pukes and says it will start
stocking them if the pilot is successful.
'Lots
of fairy tales are about princes and princesses - why not two princes?'
said Mark Jennett, who is training staff involved in the pilot from 14
schools and one local authority. 'King & King is nothing to do with
sex, it is about falling in love. Cinderella is not about sex - the
problem comes not from kids but the nervousness of adults.' Jennett who
wrote Stand Up For Us, a government document on homophobia, said the
work was 'cutting edge' and teachers were now more likely to challenge
children if they used the word 'gay' in a negative way.
Critics
say that the launch of the scheme shows that there is still a need for
Section 28 type legislation. 'The predictions of those who said the
repeal of Section 28 would result in the active promotion of
homosexuality in schools are coming true,' said Simon Calvert,
spokesman for the Christian Institute. 'Let's arrange a series of
meetings around the country where parents of primary school children
can look at these books. The majority would be aghast.'
Tahir
Alam, education spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain, agreed:
'This is not consistent with Islamic teachings and from our point of
view many parents would be concerned.'
Other
parents felt that children aged four and five were too young for the
books. 'I don't know of many younger primary school children who would
really understand what homosexuality is,' said Andy Hibberd, co-founder
of the support group, the Parent Organisation, who has sons aged seven
and nine. 'I don't have a problem with what happens between consenting
adults, but I don't believe it needs to be forced on young children.'
'And they lived happily ever after ...'
King & King
A
queen wants her son to get married and become king. She arranges for a
string of princesses to meet her son but he does not fall in love with
any of them.
In the end it is one of the princesses' brothers who catches his eye. The 
princes get married and become two kings.
Spacegirl Pukes
A
little girl who is about to set off on a space mission falls ill. Her
two parents, mummy Loula and mummy Neenee take her home to look after
her but then they fall ill too. When she recovers, the spacegirl puts
back on her suit an

RE: g_b Blood So Impure ????

[TOM CRUISE]

impact on gay life..due to high blood sugar level..well it causes 
impotency...so be it hetero or homo sexual a guy wont be able to function 
"properly"as a "top' in the sense..
   
  

Manthan Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I wonder if a person with blood sugar level upto 200 should donate 
blood???
  Can anyone throw some light on this. Also I want to know, is there any impact 
on gay life due to this high level of blood sugar.
   
  Regards,
  Manthan.


-
  From: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
icarius_slade
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:43 AM
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: g_b Blood So Impure 


  
Hi guys !

Sometime back, i had gone to donate blood at the bloodbank of 
Lilavati Hospital at Bandra, for a friend of mine, who was in urgent 
need of it. Before the needful was done however, we had to fill in a 
(sort of) medical history form where stuff like whether u were 
sufferring from asthma, jaundice etc. were asked.pretty normal 
fare. And then, i froze ! Somewhere down below was a qustion "R U a 
homosexual ?" I was obviously shocked !

What is the need for asking such a stupid question ? How on earth 
could a respectable hospital like Lilavati, where all the top 
filmstars etc. go for their treatment, be so regressive ? I asked 1 
of my doctor pals & he said that the Govt. of india had definetly not 
made any such idiotic norm. Then why this discrimination ? 

The only reason i could come up with was that because of the 
stereotype of gays being promiscious, we perhaps fell under some kind 
of high-risk category & hence, if i'd have ticked "yes", they'd have 
denied me permission to donate blood, DESPITE me being completely 
healthy ! But why this discrimination against us ? Does this mean 
that heterosexuals have "purer" blood ? For all u know, the hetero 
guy/gal standing by my side might be HIV+ve while I am not & still my 
blood may not be given, purely for me being a gay.and the patient 
may just die.

I was reminded of one episode in Queer as Folk (the US version) where 
Brian is denied from giving his blood to save Mike, just because he 
was gay.If this can happen in a "developed" society like the US, what 
abt. lesser mortals like us ?

VERY HESITATINGLY, i had to tick the "No" column, as the patient 
reqd. blood urgently and there was no time to be wasted on arguments. 
It wrenched my heart, but i didn't have any option. I had to attend 
to another urgent engagement that day due to which, i had to push off 
early. Do other hospitals in Bby, or for that matter, anywhere else 
in India, ask for this criterion ? What logic does it serve ? Thought 
that i'd bring it to the attention of every member of this group...

Icarius



 

 
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g_b Top 25 Personal Finance Myths

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Top 25 Personal Finance Myths

Someone once said that if you were to make a list of your 10 closest friends
and acquaintances and order your earnings and theirs from smallest to
greatest, you'd probably find yourself somewhere near the middle. All that
this means is that we are subtly influenced by our friends, even when we're
not aware of it, especially in matters of money. Being somewhere in the
middle is probably more comfortable for the average person.

If you are that rare person at the high end of the list, then you probably
don't need to read this article. If you are not, then find out what's
holding you back. There are hundreds of personal finance myths which are
either misunderstood, taken out of context, or just plain incorrect. Here
are our top 25.
General Perceptions

There are a lot of very general negative feelings and perceptions about
money in several societies, built up over several generations.

  1. *I don't deserve to be rich*.
  Why not? Intuition suggests that no matter which religion you follow,
  there are people who are successful and got there by honest means. What is
  wrong with that? Believing this myth cripples your willingness to be open to
  opportunities. Keep in mind that the government, Medicare, and other
  programs are not going to take care of
youas
much as you think.
  2. *Rich people are scum*.
  Or greedy , selfish,
  uncaring, or whatever. It's just that the scummy rich are more played up in
  the media because it sells newspapers. Of course, the rich didn't get that
  way by giving away their money. At least not until they are ultra-rich like
  Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and others who have donated to the Bill &
  Melinda Gates
Foundation.
  One principle you could live by is this: you can't help the poor if you are
  yourself poor. Idealism is romantic, but reality is more sobering. This is a
  variation of the belief that "money is the root of all evil." What the Bible
  really says is that "the *love* of money is the root of all evil"
  (Timothy 6:10). These are two wholly different things, but the
  misinterpretation causes some people, even whole societies, to shun money.
  Become wealthy, then start your own prosperity project and give away wealth
  to good causes of your choosing.
  3. *You have to have X dollars to be wealthy*.
  Wealthy is what you think it is for you. Don't try to keep up with the
  Joneses. Keep things simple. CNN Money has 10 rules for building
  wealth . [via
  
LifeHack]
  Key is starting early, or at least starting now. Compound interest takes
  care of some of the growth, but if you are not keeping up with inflation,
  then you are not building wealth.
  4. *Those with obvious material wealth must be rich*.
  Experience suggests we humans get jealous or resentful for so many
  reasons, and witnessing someone's material wealth is often one of them. But
  don't be so sure that the neighbor with all the cool ATVs, skidoos, swimming
  pool, and latest car is actually wealthy (has liquid assets), or even happy.
  He/She could be deep in debt to maintain the facade.
  5. *Money makes you happy. Money makes you unhappy*.
  Well which is it? Money does not have the power in and of itself to
  make you happy or unhappy. There are happy poor people and miserable rich
  people. More money does help with the bills, provided you know how to manage
  your wealth. But people with more money can also spend more than necessary
  and actually end up with less. Read this money
sermonby Coty Pinckney for a bit
of insight.
  6. *There's only so much money in the world*.
  There isn't enough in the world for everyone to be wealthy. This
  couldn't be farther from the truth. Honest economists — yes, there are some
  — have said that there is more than enough money in the world for every
  single human being to live comfortably. Some people also believe that the
  Internet is the great leveller that will help redistribute at least some of
  the world's wealth, for those pioneers who participate.
  7. *Becoming rich is hard work*.
  It *can* be easier than you've been told. Dr. Marsha
Sinetar's
  book *Do What You Love, The Money Will Follow* is one of the best
  guides for an organic approach to
wealth.
  It also does not have to be linearly dependent on your earnings. It does not
  mean you don't have to work hard and smart at
itat
first, but it doesn't have to be "hard" in the sense that it's not
  enjoyable. And eventually, it gets easier to build your wealth