g_b Safety Tips for chatting and dating on PlanetRomeo

[gaybombay]

Safety Tips for chatting and dating on PlanetRomeo

Our site is open to all honest, adult, gay, bisexual or transgender men 
anywhere in the world. Just like in the real world, it's important to observe a 
few key safety rules when online. Of course there's no such thing as 100% 
security but you can do quite a lot to reduce the risks.

General Points
Your password should be longer than 8 letters and also contain some numbers. 
When choosing your password, don't use anything that's easy to guess (like your 
username or a variation of your username). Never tell other people which login 
data you use – GayRomeo teamsters will never ask you for your login data. Only 
use the "Remember details" function on your login when you're certain that 
other people don't have access to your PC. Check that the email address you 
have given really is correct and that you're the only one with access to your 
email account.




Designing your Profile
Don't forget that your profile is likely to be read by people who aren't as 
well-intentioned towards you as you would like. But apart from the plain 
malicious, you have to consider that there are web crawlers and automatic 
robots out there trawling the web for email addresses and other choice bits of 
information. And some things are only dangerous when brought together – like 
your home address combined with the helpful tip you've left that you're off on 
holiday!

Some things are just better omitted from your profile text like:

* Postal addresses
* Telephone / mobile numbers
* Email addresses
* Credit card or bank account details
* Addresses of your employer/university/college
* Date of birth
* Photos of official documents
* Info about consumption of drugs


Never upload any third-party photos from the Internet onto your profile. In the 
worst case scenario the real copyright holder could prosecute you for 
unauthorised use or send you an outrageous bill for use of his property.

Dishonest Users
Users who play fast and loose with the truth as usually referred to as 
"fakers". Their deceitfulness can range from fairly harmless misleading 
statements (like giving the wrong age!) to completely fictitious profiles. 
There are a number of reasons why people do this. Harmless fakers are generally 
out for hot pix or cybersex or want the excitement of taking on a fantasy role. 
But there are still serious cases which end in fraud, scams, theft or blackmail.

So when you're chatting:
Be very wary of giving your telephone number, address or other confidential 
information
If the other guy's profile seems a bit odd or strange, don't send all your own 
private photos straight away

And before your first meeting:

* NEVER send any money.
* NEVER send any invitation which could possibly be used to justify a visa 
application.
* Remember ? if you've just had a pleasant chat with some guy, that's no 
reason to jet half way round the world!
* If you invite someone to your place, don't leave any valuables lying 
around.
* If you're meeting someone in town, tell a friend beforehand who you're 
meeting and where.
* Choose a public place with lots of people for your meeting.
* Don't forget the condoms and lubricant!


How can I recognise a faker?
The best protection against fakers is not to let all the blood lite out of your 
brain for those nether regions. No genuine user will take it badly if you have 
a few polite enquires about things that don't seem clear to you. Not every 
profile without photos is automatically a fake profile, but the owner of the 
profile could at least send you a PHOTO MESSAGE. In an age of webcams, scanners 
and cheap digital cameras, there's really no valid reason for not putting up a 
few personal shots.

Some Tell-tale Signs of Fakers:

* His profile show glossy photos from a photo series but when you ask for 
more he says he hasn't got any
* Watch out for details in the photos – an LA swimming pool in Barnsley or 
Stockholm??
* Check whether the profile details fit with the photos. Does he say his 
eyes are brown in the `Stats' but they're blue in the photos? Coloured contact 
lenses perhaps??
* The Guestbook's crawling with faker warnings
* When chatting with you he seems uptight and shy but his photos tell a 
tale of wild piggy sex. Does that really fit together?
* The user wants pictures from you – straight away


Probably genuine:
Every profile has a "Friends and Clubs" section where you can see how many 
other users have stored the profile owner as "KNOWN PERSONALLY". If there a 
number of them and they're visibly shown, you can take that as a good sign that 
the user is probably genuine. But even so, don't be afraid to get in touch with 
one or two of these linked users and ask them in a friendly way if they really 
do know the user PERSONALLY. But please remember that if a user doesn't have 
any entries in this section, that does not automatically mean that he's a faker.

Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[Tintin Mumbai India]

NO...
2nd YouTube video is still there as of 11:55AM 24/02/2011.
:(

g_b planet romeo

[moderator]

3 Feb: Homophobic news on TV9 in India



Today we were informed about a homophobic news report on TV9. We are deeply 
concerned and quite shocked that such a report was broadcast. In our view it 
was sensationalist and showed a flagrant disregard for privacy and basic human 
rights. Yes, being able to live freely as gay, bisexual or transgender IS a 
human right! 

In the light of this report, we completely understand that you might be 
concerned for your own personal security and privacy. Security on dating and 
social networking platforms is always a concern. For that reason we have 
published this helpful safety information 

 . 

In all honesty, we don't have any direct power to stop such disgusting acts of 
journalism. But we want to let you know that we are with you, and that we have 
had direct experience of similar situations ourselves in the context of 
European gay movements. Sadly, legislation doesn't mean automatic acceptance by 
stupid TV reporters :-/ 

Let's keep fighting for our rights!
Your PlanetRomeo Team

 

 

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Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[geldmann281]

The dailymotion video is gone too!

So is the 2nd video on youtube.


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From: john ferns 
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:08:15 
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Subject: Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

can we PLEASE  have the  Dailymotion link?

U tube  has yanked out  the  video.





From: "geldmann...@yahoo.com" 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 11:11:37 PM
Subject: Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

  
So has Dailymotion.

We're keeping a watch on these guys!

Sx. 
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From: Ratish Dicunha  
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:54:59 -0800 (PST)
To: 
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Subject: Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad
  
you tube has removed this footage





From: "modera...@gaybombay.in" 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 8:22:31 AM
Subject: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

  
 
From:vatsal 
Sent:23 February 2011 05:33
To: modera...@gaybombay.in
Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
 
Hello GayBombay,
 
I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.
TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some innocent 
gay guys very badly.
I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an action 
against this TV channel.
Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against them.
Any help from you really really appreciated.
 
The footage is on the below link on youtube .
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
 
- A hopeful gay
 




  

g_b A pink marriage on paperback

[moderator]

A pink marriage on paperback


Ashok Pradhan, TNN, Feb 22, 2011, 12.10am IST

BHUBANESWAR: The LGBT
  (lesbian, gay,
bisexual, transgender) revolution is no longer restricted to metros like
Delhi   or Mumbai
 . It is touching all nooks
and corners of the country. 

Asamajik', an Oriya novel on the subject of homosexuality
 , which is
among the very first and few Oriya novels to talk about same-sex
relationships, was released at the Bhubaneswar Book Fair on Friday. The book
tells the story of China 
Mali and Phula Mani, two girls from an obscure village in remote Orissa.
Childhood friends China and Phula became life partners. Phula leaves behind
her loving husband and escapes a rape attempt by another man before uniting
with her lesbian partner, China. 

Asamajik' would loosely translate to unsocial' in English. "The novel is
more about an emotional relationship and bonding rather than about sex
between two girls. While talking about sexuality, I have talked about mind
over body," the author of the novel, feminist writer Sarojini Sahoo
 , said
on Sunday. 

While talking about homosexuality, Sahoo, an Orissa Sahitya Academy
Award-winner, said, "Western feminists talk primarily about sexual
attraction between the same sex couple. But there is much more in a
homosexual relationship than just that." 

The plot of the novel has been deliberately given a rural setting as lesbian
relationships are as much part of rural life as urban, according to Sahoo,
who was listed among 25 exceptional women of India
  by the Kindle' magazine of
Kolkata. "Is lesbian relationship prone to porn or erotica? Is there no role
of socio-economic status of society or the role of patriarchal society?,"
questioned Sahoo. She currently teaches in Belpahar college under Jharsuguda
district. "I was inspired to write about lesbianism from an incident in
Koraput where two village girls had fought social odds to get married,"
Sahoo said. 

Asamajik' has been released by publisher Prachi Pratisthan. Sahoo's earlier
novel, Gambhiri Ghara', which describes an unusual relationship between two
people, a Hindu housewife from India and a Muslim artist from Pakistan
 , has been translated
into Bangla and published from Bangladesh
  in 2007, under the
title of Mithya Gerosthali'. 

 

 

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g_b TV channel outs gay men, women in Hyderabad

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TV channel outs gay men, women in Hyderabad


NDTV


Uma Sudhir  , Updated: February 24,
2011 01:25 IST 

http://www.ndtv.com/news/images/story_page/Hyderabadgay295.jpg

Hyderabad:  A TV channel in Hyderabad has offended and upset many viewers by
outing members of a gay club on air.

TV 9, which broadcasts in Telugu ran a report last night that it says was
intended as "an expose" on the gay community in Hyderabad. A "sting
operation" showed a reporter logging onto a gay social networking site from
where they located private profile information like phone numbers. They then
phoned those people and recorded their conversations, which aired on TV
along with profile photos lifted from the networking site. The questions the
reporter asked included preferred sexual positions.  

The seven-minute long report also included footage shot on hidden camera at
gay clubs.

One of the young men outed allegedly tried to commit suicide after his
parents saw him in the TV report.


"It's an infringement of privacy...which can have serious repercussions here
in India. You could lose your job, could create family problems. It's a step
backwards," said Sunil Gupta, a prominent gay rights activist in Delhi.

The TV report's script says it wanted to establish that software
professionals, students and rich young people were involved in "activity
that is against the law of nature."

Gay rights groups have demanded a public apology from the channel and are
also considering legal action. 

 

 

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Re: g_b (unknown)

[cuteboy]

My sympathies are with the guys who are exposed and the trauma they must be 
going through, may god give them courage to peacefully come out of this problem
 
but if you want to have fun one has to be prepared to face this kind of things
 


--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Vikram D  wrote:


From: Vikram D 
Subject: g_b (unknown)
To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, 
khush-l...@yahoogroups.com, movenp...@yahoogroups.com, gayde...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 5:23 PM


  








Just putting down some thoughts and possible points of action following the 
vile episode broadcast by TV9 Telugu on how gay culture was booming in 
Hyderabad. 
 
 
This has been taken down from YouTube - congratulations to everyone who went 
online to make sure YouTube yanked it - but a transcript is available, which 
I'll post in a separate mail, shows how awful it was, but without giving the 
photos, with no attempt at concealment, of the guys whose profiles they picked 
from GayRomeo and entrapped into conversations with them which they recorded. 
They also seem to have shot some spycam footage from inside a club that had a 
gay party. 
 
 
Quite apart from the horror of entrapping guys this way, the episode was sick 
for the tone it took, which went on about how software employees and students 
were "falling prey" to this lifestyle, and how unnatural it was. At the end, 
there was a bit of a shift where they also spoke about the potential for 
blackmail that having sites on GayRomeo had - a very small part of the episode, 
but one that might have some implications for what we can do:
 
 
1) The absolute priority has to be trying to find out what has happened to the 
guys who were set up by the channel and had their lives exposed. These guys 
must be in total shock and trauma and are very probably in a suicidal state. 
Can anybody can find some way to get in touch with them and check they are OK, 
or if they need support? Did anyone in Hyderabad recognise them or might they 
know people who would know them? 
 
 
2) People have been asking about legal action against the channel, and I know 
Aditya has already taken steps here. The problem is I don't think it will be 
easy to have something really stick against TV9. It is a channel that 
specialises in this sort of sensational expose as a way to chase TRPs, so they 
are used to dealing with negative reactions and, if anything, they might even 
welcome some reactions and publicity which they would use to continue the 
moralistic line they have taken. 
 
 
One could, and perhaps should anyway, file a complaint with the national 
broadcasting authority, but let no one have any illusions this will accomplish 
much. Most of these professional regulatory bodies are both slow and toothless 
and TV9 will also claim media freedom as a defence. I have spoken to Vijay 
Hiremath at Lawyer's Collective and he is trying to see if there is something 
in the IPC or the new Telecom act that might help us, but he agreed with me 
that on the face of it legal action will be tough. 
 
 
Privacy is not much of an argument since its not really clear that sites like 
GayRomeo really are private in any enforceable way (more on that later). If the 
guys who were profiled are willing to sue the channel they might get somewhere 
but (a) they are likely to be too traumatised to do anything like that and (b) 
if they claim they were being defamed, the channel will reply that what they 
showed was truthful and they have the recordings to back it. I don't think we 
can claim that these parties or hooking up through GayRomeo doesn't exist, and 
that is really all that TV9 was claiming. The rather depressing thought did 
occur to me that if any of the guys did attempt suicide, then the channel might 
be liable for harassment and abetment, but this is obviously not a situation 
one wants to be in. 
 
 
3) Should we protest directly protest to TV9? This might be worth doing, even 
if the channel just laughs at us, just as a way of showing to them - but even 
more to ourselves - that we cannot be cowed and bullied in this way. But please 
please please note - this would have to be a protest with some actual physical 
action in Hyderabad. 
 
 
I am sorry to be blunt, but purely online protests are worth precisely nothing. 
If someone sends me one more petitionline link to sign I will really scream 
because this has to be one of the most useless activities possible - it not 
only does nothing, but by giving you the sense that you are doing something, it 
robs any initiative of momentum. A protest has to have some physical component, 
even if its just in the form of the pink chaddis that were sent to Pramod 
Mutalik. 
 
 
Behind the scenes actions can work sometimes, if one has the right contacts. 
Within the English media we have certainly often used a bad piece to dialogue 
with the writers and editors and hope for some improvement in the future. If 
an

Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[john ferns]

can we PLEASE  have the  Dailymotion link?

U tube  has yanked out  the  video.





From: "geldmann...@yahoo.com" 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 11:11:37 PM
Subject: Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

  
So has Dailymotion.

We're keeping a watch on these guys!

Sx. 
Sent via BlackBerry®


From: Ratish Dicunha  
Sender: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:54:59 -0800 (PST)
To: 
ReplyTo: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad
  
you tube has removed this footage





From: "modera...@gaybombay.in" 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 8:22:31 AM
Subject: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

  
 
From:vatsal 
Sent:23 February 2011 05:33
To: modera...@gaybombay.in
Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
 
Hello GayBombay,
 
I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.
TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some innocent 
gay guys very badly.
I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an action 
against this TV channel.
Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against them.
Any help from you really really appreciated.
 
The footage is on the below link on youtube .
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
 
- A hopeful gay
 




  

Re: g_b Re: [gb] a small sign of change

[Manoj]

absolutely  this surely is a major major step considering nothing is put 
forth in these circles without intense and well thought processess

--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Aditya Bondyopadhyay  wrote:


From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay 
Subject: g_b Re: [gb] a small sign of change
To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Vikram D" , gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, 
lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, khush-l...@yahoogroups.com, 
gayde...@yahoogroups.com, movenp...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 2:17 PM


  



Not so small actually Vikram. It means that the proverbial neck has been stuck 
out in the international minefield of Human Rights Politics by India the state, 
and now that lets the genie out of the other proverbial bottle. Now it will be 
that much difficult for India the state to either do a tortoise like retraction 
of the head or an ostrich like burial of the same. In the unlikely eventuality 
of any reversal in judicial process, the state can and will now be pilloried 
internationally if it does not take legislative action to reinstate 
decriminalisation. That is as good a hedge for our collective bet that I can 
think of at the moment. But more importantly, the state will be standing with 
our own heavies in the supreme court trying to ensure that such a damning 
eventuality does not occur in the first place. They have now written in stone 
that they will pitch for our cause..
The portents are rather good and I feel quiet pleased I must confess..
Best,
Aditya B


On 22 February 2011 22:10, Vikram D  wrote:


  








This report from Rex Wockner's news update is interesting because of the voting 
pattern on this issue about whether to give ILGA (the International Lesbian, 
Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association) consultative status at the UN. 
The motion failed, but in the column of countries voting to let ILGA in was 
India. 
 
This follows on that other vote on whether to reinstate sexuality related 
crimes as human rights abuses (or something on those lines, I don't have the 
exact wording) where again India voted on the side of queer rights (China, 
notably, opposed queer rights which shows, for all the tolerance that seems to 
exist there, where its feelings really lie - complete opposition to even the 
smallest discussion of rights). 
 
It is small things like this which show where the thinking deep in the 
government and bureaucracy really lies in India. I don't think we will 
automatically have an easy battle ahead or might always win, but in the end I 
think some real small change has happened: 
 
 
~~~
UN shuns ILGA again
~~~
The Non-Governmental Organizations Committee of the United Nations' Economic 
and Social Council (ECOSOC) on Feb. 4 again rejected a request for consultative 
status from the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex 
Association aka ILGA.
The committee voted to take "no action" on the request and to reconsider it in 
May.
Seven nations supported moving to an actual vote on granting ILGA the status to 
access U.N. meetings, deliver oral and written reports, contact country 
representatives and organize events at the U.N. They were Belgium, Bulgaria, 
India, Israel, Turkey, Peru and the United States. Opposed were Burundi, China, 
Morocco, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Russia, Senegal, Sudan and Venezuela. Kyrgyzstan 
abstained and Cuba and Mozambique were not present.
The NGO Committee only rarely has approved consultative status for LGBT 
organizations, though its refusals have several times been overridden by the 
full ECOSOC.
Groups that have finally achieved consultative status include International 
Wages Due Lesbians, Australia's Coalition of Activist Lesbians, ILGA-Europe (an 
autonomous division of ILGA), Landsforeningen for Bøsser og Lesbiske (Denmark's 
National Association for Gays and Lesbians), Lesben- und Schwulenverband in 
Deutschland (Lesbian and Gay Federation in Germany), the Swedish national LGBT 
group RFSL (whose former initials now are its full name), Coalition Gaie et 
Lesbienne du Québec (Quebec Gay and Lesbian Coalition), COC Netherlands (a 
national LGBT group whose former initials are now its full name), Associação 
Brasileira de Gays, Lésbicas e Transgêneros (Brazilian Association of Gays, 
Lesbians and Transgenders), and the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights 
Commission.
ILGA had ECOSOC status from 1993 to 1994 but was stripped of it following a 
scandal, orchestrated by the U.S. right wing, in which a small number of ILGA's 
hundreds of member organizations were accused of not taking a strong enough 
position on age of consent.
Around 3,000 nongovernmental organizations have U.N. consultative status.Gay 





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g_b US Fed government drops defense of DOMA

[Manu Sharma]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/us/24marriage.html?_r=1&hp
 
I wish sensibility prevails in other part of the world including my own country.
 
Good luck everyone.
Manu


  

g_b U.S., in Shift, Sees Marriage Act as Violation of Gay Rights

[asfan]

 


 

February 23, 2011

U.S., in Shift, Sees Marriage Act as Violation of Gay Rights
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

WASHINGTON — President Obama, in a major legal policy shift, has directed the 
Justice Department to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act — the 1996 law 
that bars federal recognition of same-sex marriages — against lawsuits 
challenging it as unconstitutional. 
 
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. sent a letter to Congress on Wednesday 
saying that the Justice Department will now take the position in court that the 
act should be struck down as a violation of same-sex couples’ rights to equal 
protection under the law. 
“The president and I have concluded that classifications based on sexual 
orientation warrant heightened scrutiny and that, as applied to same-sex 
couples legally married under state law,” a crucial provision of the act is 
unconstitutional, Mr. Holder wrote. 
The move is sure to be welcomed by gay-rights advocates, who had often 
criticized Mr. Obama for moving too slowly in his first two years in office to 
address issues that concern them. Coming after the administration successfully 
pushed late last year for repeal of the military’s ban on gay men and lesbians 
serving openly, the change of policy on the marriage law could intensify the 
long-running political and ideological clash over same-sex marriage as the 2012 
presidential campaign approaches. 
 
The government’s new position could have far-reaching implications for the 
rights of gays and lesbians that extend beyond the Defense of Marriage Act, 
legal scholars said. Gay rights advocates hailed it as a breakthrough. 
 
“It’s a monumentally important decision,” said Tobias B. Wolff, a law professor 
at the University of Pennsylvania who advised the Obama campaign on gay rights 
issues. 
“The Justice Department and the president have taken the position on behalf of 
the United States government that discrimination against gay and lesbian people 
in all cases is presumptively unconstitutional,” he said. “It’s the first time 
the United States government has ever embraced that position, and if the courts 
agree, it will help to eradicate all of the various forms of discrimination 
that gay and lesbian people suffer around the country.” 
The president has long said he opposes the Defense of Marriage Act, even as his 
administration has until now worked to uphold the act’s constitutionality. He 
has also favored civil unions over gay marriage, much to the consternation of 
the gay rights advocates who generally support him, but has also said on 
several recent occasions that his views on gay marriage are “evolving.” 
 
Wednesday’s announcement seemed, to many, to bring him one step closer to 
reversing his position on gay marriage. 
 
But with gay rights advocates agitating for such a reversal, Mr. Obama has 
steadfastly resisted talking about a timetable for one. Mr. Wolff said the 
announcement on Wednesday should give Mr. Obama “a bit more space in his 
relationship with the LGBT community to come to a decision about that issue in 
his own time.” 
 
Inside the White House, the discussion about how the Justice Department should 
handle the Defense of Marriage Act case reached the highest levels. Bob Bauer, 
Mr. Obama’s White House counsel and a one-time lawyer for the Human Rights 
Campaign, a leading gay advocacy organization, was deeply involved, as was 
Valerie Jarrett, the president’s senior adviser, who is his liaison to gay 
rights groups and is viewed as strongly supportive of their causes. 
 
While Mr. Obama has long argued that the Defense of Marriage Act is bad policy 
and has urged Congress to repeal it, his administration has also sent Justice 
Department lawyers into court to defend the statute’s constitutionality. 
 
The new position will require the administration to file new briefs in such 
litigation, including a major case now pending before the United States Court 
of Appeals for the First Circuit, in Boston. 
 
Congress may decide to appoint its own lawyers to defend the law, or outside 
groups may try to intervene in the cases in order to mount legal arguments in 
the law’s defense. Mr. Holder said that the administration would continue to 
enforce the act unless and until Congress repeals it, or a court delivers a 
“definitive verdict against the law’s constitutionality.” 
 
“Our attorneys will also notify the courts of our interest in providing 
Congress a full and fair opportunity to participate in the litigation in those 
cases,” he wrote. “We will remain parties to the case and continue to represent 
the interests of the United States throughout the litigation.” 
 
The decision to change position grew out of an internal administration policy 
argument, first reported by The New York Times in January, over how to respond 
to two lawsuits filed late last year in New York. 
 
Citing an executive-branch duty to defend acts of Congress when plausible 
arguments exist th

g_b TV9 English translation

[Moderator Prayatna]

The translation of the video By TV 9

The Female Reporter starts

A boy trying to pursue Girls is Common but Boys pursuing Boys has become a 
Fashion

Gay Culture in Hyderabad is increasing drastically

All the gay men in Hyderabad go to clubs or pubs once every week or ten days to 
celebrate

They Drink and Dance with whomever they want

After having shown footage of a club she continues

This
 is 3 star pub in Secunderabad where software employees, rich kids and 
students party on weekends but there is a specialty to this party the 
people you see in the video drunk dancing are Gay

Having got to know about the Gay Parties the TV 9 team went to “investigate” 
and found the truth

Meeting drinking and partying like this on weekends has become a ritual to the 
gay men in this city

Taking private party permission as an excuse all the gay men unite and party

It might sound astonishing to hear but this is the reality

There are also very popular websites for gay men in the internet

Planetromeo.com is the most famous website amongst others.

The numbers of users from Andra Pradesh in this site are 6,500 out of which 
4,604 are from Hyderabad alone

Who login, message, chat, meet and celebrate using this site.

Any given times there are about 200 users online on the site from the city

Software Employees and students are most users "who fall pray” to this GAY 
CULTURE

Sexy
 pictures, fashionable clothes, thrilling behavior and being able to 
communicate properly are the weapons used by a gay man to attract 
another gay Man

The picture that you see is of Deeraj @%$@@# who 
happens to be a software engineer who has taken sexy pictures of himself
 and uploaded on the site to attract other gay men

They change the Picture and the reporter goes

The guy in this picture is Rajesh who is a student at JNTU University who lives 
in the dormitory

TV9 has "trapped" Rajesh after having seen the pictures and contact information 
that he uploaded on the profile

The Phone Conversation between Rajesh and the "Investigator"

Investigator: Hello

Rajesh : Who is this?

Investigator: Is Rajesh there

Rajesh: Tell me I am Rajesh speaking

Investigator: You gave me this no on Planet romeo

Rajesh: Ya, tell me who is this where ru from?

Investigator: I live in Banjara Hills Hyderabad where are u?

Rajesh : I am currently out of station but I am coming back soon

Investigator: When exactly are you coming back?

Rajesh: I am coming back on Monday or Tuesday. Tuesday morning hopefully

Investigator: What are your stats?

Rajesh: 5.6 ht and 68 wt

Investigator: is it 5.8

Rajesh: 5.6 your height?

Investigator: I am 5.9 5 feet 9 inches What are you? Are you a top or a Bottom

Rajesh : I am a top

Investigator: so you are a top, what do you like?

Rajesh: Foreplay and being sucked where do u stay

Investigator: I currently live in Banjara Hills

Rajesh: Would you have place?

Investigator: ah

Rajesh: Would you have place?

Investigator: I will call you when I have the place on Monday or Tuesday I will 
only call you when I

Have the place where do you stay?

Rajesh: I live in Jntu

Investigator: Jntu? What do you do in JNTu?

Rajesh: Mtech I study Mtech

Investigator: I can’t hear you properly can you be louder

Rajesh: I am pursuing Mtech

Investigator: Are you pursuing Mtech in Jntu

Phone Conversation is stopped

They display a picture

The
 person in this picture is Sai who is a Software employee in a well 
known firm, good salary lives in Miyapur and loves to go to Gay Parties

Phone Conversation with Sai

Sai: Hello Who is this?

In..: Is SAI there?

Sai: who is on the other side?

Reporter: This is Prashant speaking

Sai: Prashanth?

Reporter: You gave me your number in pr

Sai: oh.. ok Tell me

Reporter: Can you be a bit louder I cant hear you

Sai: Tell me is what I said

Reporter: Where are you Sai

Sai: I am at Home currently tell me

Reporter: Do you have a place now

Sai: Yes but my friends are there as of now

Reporter: Are your friends there?

Sai : Yes they will be here in an hour

Reporter: Ok What is your Age Sai

Sai: I am 27

Reporter: 27 oh.. What do you like

Sai: I am a versatile and you

Reporter: Even I am also a versatile yaar

Sai: ok ok Good to know

Reporter: What else do you like? What do you like on bed?

Sai: I am telling you naa I am a versatile what do you like?

Reporter: ok ok

Phone Conversation ends

The Female Reporter starts talking

A
 lot of employees in higher positions, white collared workers highly 
qualified students are becoming slaves to lifestyle which is against 
"natural way"

Taking this an advantage some people are blackmailing them

After showing a couple more pictures they stop at a picture

The man in the pic is Fiaz lives in Mehdipatnam works at a software firm,

to be honest this is a part time job for him the actual "dhanda" is blackmailing

Talking
 to new people getting sexual pleasures from them and then black mailing
 them by taking pictures and videos of them a

g_b FW: [gb] Re: ∮QAM∮ TV 9 Transcript :

[milin shah]

THE VIDEO HAS NOT YET BEEN REMOVED OR MAYB IT HAS BEEN REPOSTED PLEASE CHECK 
THE LINK BELOW AND FLAG THIS VIDEO ON YOUTUBE.
tv9 Telugu new channels violating Human rights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqkTTsWJRbE
 
> To: queerazadimum...@googlegroups.com; bombay-d...@yahoogroups.com; 
> gaybom...@yahoogroups.com; lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com
> From: kris.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:51:54 +0530
> Subject: [gb] Re: ∮QAM∮ TV 9 Transcript :
> 
> This is crazy! But still, thanks for posting this!
> 
> Kris
> 
> 
> On 2/23/11, Pallav  wrote:
> > Since the Video has been removed , please read the transcript
> >
> > The Female Reporter starts
> >
> > A boy trying to pursue Girls is Common but Boys pursuing Boys has become a
> > Fashion
> >
> > Gay Culture in Hyderabad is increasing drastically
> >
> > All the gay men in Hyderabad go to clubs or pubs once every week or ten days
> > to celebrate
> >
> > They Drink and Dance with whomever they want
> >
> >
> > After having shown footage of a club she continues
> >
> >
> > This is 3 star pub in Secunderabad where software employees, rich kids and
> > students party on weekends but there is a specialty to this party the people
> > you see in the video drunk dancing are Gay
> >
> >
> > Having got to know about the Gay Parties the TV 9 team went to “investigate”
> > and found the truth. Meeting drinking and partying like this on weekends has
> > become a ritual to the gay men in this city. Taking private party permission
> > as an excuse all the gay men unite and party. It might sound astonishing to
> > hear but this is the reality.
> >
> > There are also very popular websites for gay men in the internet.
> > Planetromeo.com is the most famous website amongst others. The numbers of
> > users from Andra Pradesh in this site are 6,500 out of which 4,604 are from
> > Hyderabad alone. Who login, message, chat, meet and celebrate using this
> > site. Any given times there are about 200 users online on the site from the
> > city
> >
> > Software Employees and students are most users "who fall pray” to this GAY
> > CULTURE
> >
> > Sexy pictures, fashionable clothes, thrilling behavior and being able to
> > communicate properly are the weapons used by a gay man to attract another
> > gay Man
> >
> >
> >
> > The picture that you see is of Deeraj @%$@@# who happens to be a software
> > engineer who has taken sexy pictures of himself and uploaded on the site to
> > attract other gay men
> >
> > They change the Picture and the reporter goes
> >
> > The guy in this picture is Rajesh who is a student at JNTU University who
> > lives in the dormitory
> >
> > TV9 has "trapped" Rajesh after having seen the pictures and contact
> > information that he uploaded on the profile
> >
> >
> >
> > The Phone Conversation between Rajesh and the "Investigator"
> >
> >
> >
> > Investigator: Hello
> >
> > Rajesh : Who is this?
> >
> > Investigator: Is Rajesh there
> >
> > Rajesh: Tell me I am Rajesh speaking
> >
> > Investigator: You gave me this no on Planet romeo
> >
> > Rajesh: Ya, tell me who is this where ru from?
> >
> > Investigator: I live in Banjara Hills Hyderabad where are u?
> >
> > Rajesh : I am currently out of station but I am coming back soon
> >
> > Investigator: When exactly are you coming back?
> >
> > Rajesh: I am coming back on Monday or Tuesday. Tuesday morning hopefully
> >
> > Investigator: What are your stats?
> >
> > Rajesh: 5.6 ht and 68 wt
> >
> > Investigator: is it 5.8
> >
> > Rajesh: 5.6 your height?
> >
> > Investigator: I am 5.9 5 feet 9 inches What are you? Are you a top or a
> > Bottom
> >
> > Rajesh : I am a top
> >
> > Investigator: so you are a top, what do you like?
> >
> > Rajesh: Foreplay and being sucked where do u stay
> >
> > Investigator: I currently live in Banjara Hills
> >
> > Rajesh: Would you have place?
> >
> > Investigator: ah
> >
> > Rajesh: Would you have place?
> >
> > Investigator: I will call you when I have the place on Monday or Tuesday I
> > will only call you when I
> >
> > Have the place where do you stay?
> >
> > Rajesh: I live in Jntu
> >
> > Investigator: Jntu? What do you do in JNTu?
> >
> > Rajesh: Mtech I study Mtech
> >
> > Investigator: I can’t hear you properly can you be louder
> >
> > Rajesh: I am pursuing Mtech
> >
> > Investigator: Are you pursuing Mtech in Jntu
> >
> >
> >
> > Phone Conversation is stopped
> >
> >
> >
> > They display a picture
> >
> > The person in this picture is Sai who is a Software employee in a well known
> > firm, good salary lives in Miyapur and loves to go to Gay Parties
> >
> > Phone Conversation with Sai
> >
> > Sai: Hello Who is this?
> >
> > In..: Is SAI there?
> >
> > Sai: who is on the other side?
> >
> > Reporter: This is Prashant speaking
> >
> > Sai: Prashanth?
> >
> > Reporter: You gave me your number in pr
> >
> > Sai: oh.. ok Tell me
> >
> > Reporter: Can you be a bit louder I cant hear you
> >
> > Sai: Tell me is what I said
> >
> > Reporter: Where are you Sai
> >
> >

Re: : g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[geldmann281]

The video has cropped up again on youtube.

Please flag it!

We need to do peaceful protests in all big cities!

Ndtv has already called it bad journalism. Indian express delhi is doing a 
piece soon.

Srini
Sent via BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Pujit Agarwal 
Sender: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:22:08 
To: 
Reply-To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

All,

I found the whole thing very unethical. In the past many crusing places were 
shown on television but faces were blurred or black strip on the face hid their 
identity. Often we read that names are changed to conceal identity. There was a 
repeat telecast today afternoon.

Hyderabad is completely since yesterday due toTelenghana agitation. This way 
this channel is getting maximum viewers. The guy whose name is Rajesh tried to 
commit suicide last night. I was surprised to hear real names and other 
personal info. Faces were shown prominently and few of these guys are married, 
from respected families and from top management level in reputed IT companies.

Chennai dost mentioned that they are considering legal action.

If there are any lawyers in this forum then do suggest if defamation case can 
done . Also would like to know legal opinion on phone tapping.

Would appreciate response from legal experts.

Thanks

On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:52 IST modera...@gaybombay.in wrote:

> 
>
>From: vatsal 
>
>Sent: 23 February 2011 05:33
>To: modera...@gaybombay.in
>Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
>
> 
>
>Hello GayBombay,
>
> 
>
>I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.
>
>TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some
>innocent gay guys very badly.
>
>I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an
>action against this TV channel.
>
>Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against
>them.
>
>Any help from you really really appreciated.
>
> 
>
>The footage is on the below link on youtube .
>
> 
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
>
> 
>
>- A hopeful gay
>
> 
>



  

Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[geldmann281]

So has Dailymotion.

We're keeping a watch on these guys!

Sx.
Sent via BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Ratish Dicunha 
Sender: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:54:59 
To: 
Reply-To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

you tube has removed this footage





From: "modera...@gaybombay.in" 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 8:22:31 AM
Subject: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

  
 
From:vatsal 
Sent:23 February 2011 05:33
To: modera...@gaybombay.in
Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
 
Hello GayBombay,
 
I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.
TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some innocent 
gay guys very badly.
I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an action 
against this TV channel.
Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against them.
Any help from you really really appreciated.
 
The footage is on the below link on youtube .
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
 
- A hopeful gay
 



  

Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[Ran Raj]

very sad what was the matter,tv9-hyd is a nuisense plz do something for it.
god help all of us
thanks





From: "modera...@gaybombay.in" 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:22:31 AM
Subject: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

  
 
From:vatsal 
Sent:23 February 2011 05:33
To: modera...@gaybombay.in
Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
 
Hello GayBombay,
 
I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.
TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some innocent 
gay guys very badly.
I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an action 
against this TV channel.
Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against them.
Any help from you really really appreciated.
 
The footage is on the below link on youtube .
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
 
- A hopeful gay
 



  

Re:: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[Pujit Agarwal]

All,

I found the whole thing very unethical. In the past many crusing places were 
shown on television but faces were blurred or black strip on the face hid their 
identity. Often we read that names are changed to conceal identity. There was a 
repeat telecast today afternoon.

Hyderabad is completely since yesterday due toTelenghana agitation. This way 
this channel is getting maximum viewers. The guy whose name is Rajesh tried to 
commit suicide last night. I was surprised to hear real names and other 
personal info. Faces were shown prominently and few of these guys are married, 
from respected families and from top management level in reputed IT companies.

Chennai dost mentioned that they are considering legal action.

If there are any lawyers in this forum then do suggest if defamation case can 
done . Also would like to know legal opinion on phone tapping.

Would appreciate response from legal experts.

Thanks

On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:52 IST modera...@gaybombay.in wrote:

> 
>
>From: vatsal 
>
>Sent: 23 February 2011 05:33
>To: modera...@gaybombay.in
>Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
>
> 
>
>Hello GayBombay,
>
> 
>
>I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.
>
>TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some
>innocent gay guys very badly.
>
>I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an
>action against this TV channel.
>
>Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against
>them.
>
>Any help from you really really appreciated.
>
> 
>
>The footage is on the below link on youtube .
>
> 
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
>
> 
>
>- A hopeful gay
>
> 
>



  

Re: g_b Bangalore

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--- On Tue, 2/22/11, Avra Mitra  wrote:


From: Avra Mitra 
Subject: g_b Bangalore
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 1:58 PM


  



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g_b (unknown)

[Vikram D]

Just putting down some thoughts and possible points of action following the 
vile episode broadcast by TV9 Telugu on how gay culture was booming in 
Hyderabad. 
 
 
This has been taken down from YouTube - congratulations to everyone who went 
online to make sure YouTube yanked it - but a transcript is available, which 
I'll post in a separate mail, shows how awful it was, but without giving the 
photos, with no attempt at concealment, of the guys whose profiles they picked 
from GayRomeo and entrapped into conversations with them which they recorded. 
They also seem to have shot some spycam footage from inside a club that had a 
gay party. 
 
 
Quite apart from the horror of entrapping guys this way, the episode was sick 
for the tone it took, which went on about how software employees and students 
were "falling prey" to this lifestyle, and how unnatural it was. At the end, 
there was a bit of a shift where they also spoke about the potential for 
blackmail that having sites on GayRomeo had - a very small part of the episode, 
but one that might have some implications for what we can do:
 
 
1) The absolute priority has to be trying to find out what has happened to the 
guys who were set up by the channel and had their lives exposed. These guys 
must be in total shock and trauma and are very probably in a suicidal state. 
Can anybody can find some way to get in touch with them and check they are OK, 
or if they need support? Did anyone in Hyderabad recognise them or might they 
know people who would know them? 
 
 
2) People have been asking about legal action against the channel, and I know 
Aditya has already taken steps here. The problem is I don't think it will be 
easy to have something really stick against TV9. It is a channel that 
specialises in this sort of sensational expose as a way to chase TRPs, so they 
are used to dealing with negative reactions and, if anything, they might even 
welcome some reactions and publicity which they would use to continue the 
moralistic line they have taken. 
 
 
One could, and perhaps should anyway, file a complaint with the national 
broadcasting authority, but let no one have any illusions this will accomplish 
much. Most of these professional regulatory bodies are both slow and toothless 
and TV9 will also claim media freedom as a defence. I have spoken to Vijay 
Hiremath at Lawyer's Collective and he is trying to see if there is something 
in the IPC or the new Telecom act that might help us, but he agreed with me 
that on the face of it legal action will be tough. 
 
 
Privacy is not much of an argument since its not really clear that sites like 
GayRomeo really are private in any enforceable way (more on that later). If the 
guys who were profiled are willing to sue the channel they might get somewhere 
but (a) they are likely to be too traumatised to do anything like that and (b) 
if they claim they were being defamed, the channel will reply that what they 
showed was truthful and they have the recordings to back it. I don't think we 
can claim that these parties or hooking up through GayRomeo doesn't exist, and 
that is really all that TV9 was claiming. The rather depressing thought did 
occur to me that if any of the guys did attempt suicide, then the channel might 
be liable for harassment and abetment, but this is obviously not a situation 
one wants to be in. 
 
 
3) Should we protest directly protest to TV9? This might be worth doing, even 
if the channel just laughs at us, just as a way of showing to them - but even 
more to ourselves - that we cannot be cowed and bullied in this way. But please 
please please note - this would have to be a protest with some actual physical 
action in Hyderabad. 
 
 
I am sorry to be blunt, but purely online protests are worth precisely nothing. 
If someone sends me one more petitionline link to sign I will really scream 
because this has to be one of the most useless activities possible - it not 
only does nothing, but by giving you the sense that you are doing something, it 
robs any initiative of momentum. A protest has to have some physical component, 
even if its just in the form of the pink chaddis that were sent to Pramod 
Mutalik. 
 
 
Behind the scenes actions can work sometimes, if one has the right contacts. 
Within the English media we have certainly often used a bad piece to dialogue 
with the writers and editors and hope for some improvement in the future. If 
anyone has contacts with TV9 - or Andhra politicians - then please use them, 
but I have to say I think its unlikely that much will happen. Vernacular 
channels like this, whcih are driven by shock and TRPs, aren't influenceable in 
the way that more mainstream channels are. TV9 is part of the Associated 
Broadcasting group which is very focused on a kind of sensational news in local 
languages, and there's not much I can think of that might reach them. 
 
 
4) Since the morning we've been deluged by calls from people asking us if sites 
like Ga

g_b Any Gay Couples in Mumbai for Assistive Reproductive Technology?

[qwhy9]

My partner and I traveled to Mumbai in March of 2010 and we now have three 
babies.  I was wondering if there are any other gay couples or gay friendly 
support groups while we are here in India.  Great Country. I have now been here 
for 5 weeks with our newborns.  Would love to meet other couples and or other 
gay men in the area or to take in a movie. I am near IMAX Wadala. 

g_b Help

[Tapesh Maj]

Does any one know of a good astrologer in Mumbai ,

I need to consult one shortly .

Please reply directly into my inbox .

Thank you

Tapesh M.

London

g_b Re: [gb] a small sign of change

[Aditya Bondyopadhyay]

Not so small actually Vikram. It means that the proverbial neck has been
stuck out in the international minefield of Human Rights Politics by India
the state, and now that lets the genie out of the other proverbial bottle.
Now it will be that much difficult for India the state to either do a
tortoise like retraction of the head or an ostrich like burial of the same.
In the unlikely eventuality of any reversal in judicial process, the state
can and will now be pilloried internationally if it does not take
legislative action to reinstate decriminalisation. That is as good a hedge
for our collective bet that I can think of at the moment. But more
importantly, the state will be standing with our own heavies in the supreme
court trying to ensure that such a damning eventuality does not occur in the
first place. They have now written in stone that they will pitch for our
cause..
The portents are rather good and I feel quiet pleased I must confess..
Best,
Aditya B

On 22 February 2011 22:10, Vikram D  wrote:

>
>
> This report from Rex Wockner's news update is interesting because of the
> voting pattern on this issue about whether to give ILGA (the International
> Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association) consultative status
> at the UN. The motion failed, but in the column of countries voting to let
> ILGA in was India.
>
> This follows on that other vote on whether to reinstate sexuality related
> crimes as human rights abuses (or something on those lines, I don't have the
> exact wording) where again India voted on the side of queer rights (China,
> notably, opposed queer rights which shows, for all the tolerance that seems
> to exist there, where its feelings really lie - complete opposition to even
> the smallest discussion of rights).
>
> It is small things like this which show where the thinking deep in the
> government and bureaucracy really lies in India. I don't think we will
> automatically have an easy battle ahead or might always win, but in the end
> I think some real small change has happened:
>
>
> ~~~
> UN shuns ILGA again
> ~~~
> The Non-Governmental Organizations Committee of the United Nations'
> Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) on Feb. 4 again rejected a request for
> consultative status from the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and
> Intersex Association aka ILGA.
> The committee voted to take "no action" on the request and to reconsider it
> in May.
> Seven nations supported moving to an actual vote on granting ILGA the
> status to access U.N. meetings, deliver oral and written reports, contact
> country representatives and organize events at the U.N. They were Belgium,
> Bulgaria, India, Israel, Turkey, Peru and the United States. Opposed were
> Burundi, China, Morocco, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Russia, Senegal, Sudan and
> Venezuela. Kyrgyzstan abstained and Cuba and Mozambique were not present.
> The NGO Committee only rarely has approved consultative status for LGBT
> organizations, though its refusals have several times been overridden by the
> full ECOSOC.
> Groups that have finally achieved consultative status include International
> Wages Due Lesbians, Australia's Coalition of Activist Lesbians, ILGA-Europe
> (an autonomous division of ILGA), Landsforeningen for Bøsser og Lesbiske
> (Denmark's National Association for Gays and Lesbians), Lesben- und
> Schwulenverband in Deutschland (Lesbian and Gay Federation in Germany), the
> Swedish national LGBT group RFSL (whose former initials now are its full
> name), Coalition Gaie et Lesbienne du Québec (Quebec Gay and Lesbian
> Coalition), COC Netherlands (a national LGBT group whose former initials are
> now its full name), Associação Brasileira de Gays, Lésbicas e Transgêneros
> (Brazilian Association of Gays, Lesbians and Transgenders), and the
> International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission.
> ILGA had ECOSOC status from 1993 to 1994 but was stripped of it following a
> scandal, orchestrated by the U.S. right wing, in which a small number of
> ILGA's hundreds of member organizations were accused of not taking a strong
> enough position on age of consent.
> Around 3,000 nongovernmental organizations have U.N. consultative
> status.Gay
>
>  
>



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Notice to all recipients:
Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to
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Re: g_b Planet Romeo Profiles Exposed In A TV Channel

[asfan]

I tried to hook on to the link and recieved the following message:
 
This video has been removed because its content violated 
YouTube's Terms of Service. 
Sorry about that.
 
 
Could someone who had seen it tell us what it was about?
Thanks,
Asfan.



--- On Tue, 22/2/11, Sam Thomas  wrote:


From: Sam Thomas 
Subject: g_b Planet Romeo Profiles Exposed In A TV Channel
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, gaybom...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 22 February, 2011, 11:21 PM


  



Guys,

Check out this video, shocking is not even the word for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I

We should ensure such journalism is curbed once and for all. 

Regards,
Sam

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g_b Fwd: COMPLAINT AGAINST Gay news story on TV9 (Telugu) dated 22Feb2011

[Aditya Bondyopadhyay]

Dear All,
This is to update you all that Adhikaar has sent a complaint (pasted
hereunder) under the NBA guidelines to TV9. One small but in no way
insignificant development has been the fact that the youtube video of the
program has now been removed by TV9. We await response from TV9 on the
complaint and action taken, else we will proceed further with the matter.

An unconfirmed so far but potentially horrible and devastating news that is
reaching us is that one of the persons 'exposed' by TV9 has committed
suicide in Hyderabad. If this is verified to be so, this takes on a whole
new dimension and then we will proceed against the TV channel for criminal
prosecution for aiding and abetting suicide.

Best to all
Aditya Bondyopadhyay

-- Forwarded message --
From: LGBT Adhikaar in India 
Date: 23 February 2011 05:45
Subject: Re: COMPLAINT AGAINST Gay news story on TV9 (Telugu) dated
22Feb2011
To: TV9 Complaint Person 


To,

Ms. A. Padmavathi

Legal Co-ordinator

Associated Broadcasting Company Pvt. Ltd.

Plot No.97, Road No.3, Banjara Hills, Hyderabad – 500 034.

Tel.: 040-23352900

Fax: 040-0335

Email: padmavathi.app...@tv9.net



Dear Ms A Padmavathi,

I am writing for and on behalf of Adhikaar, a community based organisation
that works for the protection and promotion of the human rights of Lesbian,
Gay, Transgendered, and Bisexual Persons (LGBT Persons) in India. Our
organisation is based in Delhi but partners with many grassroots LGBT
organisations from different parts of India, Including in Andhra Pradesh.



I draw your attention to the telecast on TV9 Telugu news channel on
22ndFebruary 2011 of a news item that speaks of Gay
culture in Hyderabad, of Hyderabad city becoming hub for Gay parties, and of
Gay culture becoming a fashion. This news broadcast has also been posted on
Youtube and can be accessed at the following URL:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I



While reporting on gay culture in the city of Hyderabad is squarely within
the scope of cogent news reporting, and you have the right to do so, your
channel has violated the code of ethics of the News Broadcasters Association
(NBA) of India on multiple specific areas as will be subsequently explained
in details. This is in addition to the fact that the news item in question
is also in violation of your own organizational mission statement as
publicized in your own website, namely point 7 thereof which is quoted below
and which exhorts you to *not indulge in homophobia*, nor to *act with bias
against any social group*:




*"7. Nonpartisan Journalism*


ABCL has no biases towards any political party, social group or
individual. Its channels report the news in an unbiased manner and believes
that this can be achieved by having balanced stories presenting all sides of
an issue. ABCL does not provide political commentary but rather provides an
honest, accurate, and unbiased depiction of the day's events. ABCL will
ensure that the news it delivers is not colored by any racist, sexist, *
homophobic*, or fascist undertones.”





This mail is to call upon your channel to make amends for these violations
(as explained below) and air an apology each, separately and specifically,
to each and every individual who has been maliciously and unethically
targeted by your channel, as well as to air a news article apologizing to
the entire LGBT community of India whose security, constitutionally
protected liberties and freedoms, and fundamental rights to a life of
dignity, have been severely jeopardized by your unscientific, prejudiced,
unsubstantiated, malicious, and vicious content and comments.



Please note that your channel is and will be held solely responsible for any
harm or injury that is caused to any member of the LGBT community of
Hyderabad or anywhere else in India where there is reception of your Telugu
news channel, since your news item is clearly a case of incitement to
targeted violence or discrimination against member of the LGBT community.



You are also called upon to widely advertise your apologies in every news
daily (newspaper) published in the city of Hyderabad in Telugu and English
Language, on two separate days, so that the repairing of the damage that
your news broadcast has caused to the safety and security of individuals and
to an entire community is impactful and of a sustained nature.



You news Item has hunted down private profiles of individuals from a gay
social networking website and then have aired not only their names and their
pictures, it has also called them up in a clear attempt at entrapment and
prodded them with leading questions about their private sexual lives, for
the sole purpose of providing unnecessary titillation to your general
viewers.



In this regards please note that you have clearly and intentionally violated
Code 6 (Self-Regulation Section) of the Code of Ethics and Broadcasting
Standards of the News Broadcasters Association which deals with matters of
privacy and state

g_b Laws in India

[Raven Ivanov]

Hello again,
  I have posted before here, I am in the USA, a lesbian and taking a course
on South Asian culture.  I am writing my scholarship paper on Homosexuality
in India.  I thank those of you who have shared with me some of your stories
and would love to hear more!
  I found a story that in 2009 "
India overturns 148-year-old law banning homosexuality"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/5721979/India-overturns-148-year-old-law-banning-homosexuality.html

I would like to ask if this has affected you?  Did they make any changes
after overturning the ban?  Just any info on laws and if you are harassed by
the law for being gay?
thank you so much
raven


   Today be aware of how you are spending your 1,440 beautiful moments
and spend them wisely **

Re: g_b Quest- Prayatna Meet : V (Pune)

[moderator_prayatna]

Tanja,

I am in the process of drafting the report & son will share with the group.

Regards,
Omky
--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Tonja Bagwell  wrote:
>
> 
> I'm interested in knowing the results of the discussions related to the use 
> of LGBT and LGBTQ. What about LGBTQA, LGBTQI, and LGBTQQ? Please share your 
> thoughts and ideas surrounding this matter. It would be a worthwhile topic to 
> include in my anthology since it is a debatable topic that needs to be 
> understood within the homosexual and heterosexual communities.
> 
> Anthology info: www.jafansta.com/anthology.aspx
>  
> 
> Tonja Bagwell, MA
> Publisher
> Jafansta, Inc.
> www.jafansta.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> To: prayatna_pune@...; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com; gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> From: moderator_prayatna@...
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 02:07:37 +0530
> Subject: g_b Quest- Prayatna Meet : V (Pune)
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello
> 
> This Saturday is 3rd Saturday of the month & time for our 5th meet! Thanks 
> for your response at earlier meets.
> Gay,Lesbian,Tran-gender,Bisexual ,Transsexual , sexuality , female sexuality, 
> alternative sexuality, QUEER?? Hmm.. Questions? Sounds similar? Are they 
> different? What is it? We use it everyday in our conversations but sure 
> everyone wonders do I really know it?
> Soo, lets come together, discuss & try to find out what is it? Does someone 
> who is LGBT necessarily be Queer? Come & out your thoughts forth.It can be 
> Yes,No or May be! Feel free to express ideas, thoughts & lets try to take 
> away :)
> So lets come together, discuss & try to find out what is it? Does someone who 
> is LGBT necessarily be Queer? Come & out your thoughts forth.It can be Yes,No 
> or May be! Feel free to express ideas, thoughts & lets try to take away :)
> So see you there
> 
> Regards,
> Team QP
>

g_b Re: [Prayatna_pune] TV9 - Expose on PR profile and gay culture in Hyderabad

[Moderator Prayatna]

Hello

With video being flagged overnight as inappropriate by community the video has 
been removed by Youtube. Also, Aditya Bandopadhayay from Delhi has sent legal 
notice to the channel. Video removal is good sign.

I have been receiving panicky calls, text s & messages. please DO NOT panic. i 
see bvery little chances of this being repeated now.

Cheers to more queer power.

Rgds,
Omky


--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Deep  wrote:

From: Deep 
Subject: [Prayatna_pune] TV9 - Expose on PR profile and gay culture in Hyderabad
To: prayatna_p...@yahoogroups.co.in
Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 6:37 AM







 



  



  
  
  Thanks to the efforts of many the offensive video has been removed from 
YouTube. Now we need to get the message across to TV9. I tried posting my 
protest on the TV9 portal, but my comments don't appear online.
"Tv9 - Gay Culture Rampant In Hyd"This video has been removed because its 
content violated YouTube's Terms of Service.

Regards,Deephttp://gaynotes.blogspot.com

--- In prayatna_p...@yahoogroups.co.in, "Deep"  wrote:
>
> I don't understand what this commentator is saying but this piece of
> "news" on TV9 is shocking to say the least. They show a "sting"
> operation on a PlanetRomeo profile.
> Tv9 - Gay Culture Rampant In
> Hydhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
> 
> 
> Someone please translate.
> Regards,
> Deephttp://gaynotes.blogspot.com
>





 





 



  

Re: g_b A strange plea for help

[Sanjay Lulla]

ABhayjee
Namashkar

She wants to meet guys who are gay, but have similar pressures on them to 
settle 
down "with a girl". This way she can be helped...and someone from the male gay 
community can also breathe easy
 
This was mentioned hence I wrote that. However everyone is in a unique 
situation 
and everyones circumstances are different. There never is a standard solution 
to 
every problem. I cant know where your shoes are pinching you so I cant judge 
you 
or say that you are wrong. Appologies if I sounded like that. 

However finding a guy who would make no demands on her, I felt, would be like 
brushing the issue under the carpet. Hence I suggested to meet the issue head 
on 
rather than ignoring it.
There are asexual people but there is a difference between frigid and asexual 
if 
I am not mistaken. Its better to clear the mind and be sure of what steps one 
has to take.
 
Wihtout Wax

 little prince-Sanjay N Lulla 





From: Tintin Mumbai India 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:40:07 AM
Subject: Re: g_b A strange plea for help

  
Sanjay, 

I think it is a one sided opinion.
First of all, as much I could read the original mail, there was no statement, 
that she want to marry some "Pressurized" gay.
It is like if a Gay TOO wants to marry a lesbian, what is big deal?
And obviously, both should spend time in courtship like other str8 (in India) 
and gay and lesbian couple (abroad)  spend before their final "I DO".

So, its like, "Jab Miyaan Beewi Raazi, to Kya Kare Quazi"...

I also think, that every topic, every matter should be thought upon with a 
separate, neutral,  "Start from Zero" thinking.

Definitely, it is possible that you have made your opinion with some live 
stories, you have had seen around.

But, I strongly believe that if you can not break, try to bend it.
Try to turn the situations in your favor.

A fight is not always recommended.
Fight is always last option.

Again, like you.. it is JUST MY personal opinion, people may not agree with me.

Abhay




On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Sanjay Lulla  
wrote:

  
>Kris I would suggest that she speak to a counselor. This could be because of 
>some psychological reasons or some kind of trauma or some unfortunate event in 
>very early childhood. Most of the cases are because of the above reasons. A 
>psychiatrist would be able to help this girl more. Marriage to a "pressurized" 
>gay would not be the right solution.
>
>Thanks
> little prince-Sanjay N Lulla 
>
>
>
>
>

From: Kris Bass 
>To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com; Gay Underscore ; 
>LGBT-India Forum ; queerker...@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 12:15:57 PM
>Subject: g_b A strange plea for help
>
>
>  
>Hi everyone,
>
>I got this message from a friend of mine. It's about a friend (woman) of his 
>who's finding it hard to come to term with her sexuality and sexual 
>orientation. 
>I'm pasting the contents of the message below.
>
>"i know a very nice, homely, cool girl who is also highly qualified. She likes 
>rock and roll and is a vocalist. she's 24. she's frigid...unable to have sex. 
>family pressure to get married is mounting to a point where she might just 
>decide to end it all. i think you understand better what a fragile situation 
>this is...this is worse than rape.
>She wants to meet guys who are gay, but have similar pressures on them to 
>settle 
>down "with a girl". This way she can be helped...and someone from the male gay 
>community can also breathe easy.
>
>I'm all for the "coming out of the closet" thing. But Kris i also know that 
>there must be people out there who are struggling with gaining acceptance 
>towards their sexuality. Maybe we can help 2 people...
>
>i have seen her state, man. imagine what she'll have to go through...it bought 
>tears to my eyes...she is a very caring and loving person..." 
>
>I don't know what to tell my friend. Should I talk to her? Should I suggest 
>that 
>she speaks to some counsellor? Maybe someone at Humsafar trust? Do you think 
>she 
>can find someone gay who'll agree to forge a 'marriage' with her?
>
>Please advice!
>
>Kris
>
>--
>http://engayginglife.blogspot.com
>
>"Remember that if men were not meant to be sucked, their bodies wouldn't have 
>come with a nozzle!" - A Gay
>
>


-- 
--- Reuse Paper by Both Sided Printing 




  

Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[Srinivas]

Done! 
 
We've worked across cities to drop mails, letters and legal responses to the 
Legal Coordinator of TV9.
 
The video's been blocked by Youtube. Dunno if tv9telugu as a user pulled it out.
 
Great team work! 
 
Kudos to the night owls and morning glories.
 
Sx.

--- On Wed, 23/2/11, modera...@gaybombay.in  wrote:


From: modera...@gaybombay.in 
Subject: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 10:52 AM


  





 

From: vatsal 
Sent: 23 February 2011 05:33
To: modera...@gaybombay.in
Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
 


Hello GayBombay,

 

I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.

TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some innocent 
gay guys very badly.

I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an action 
against this TV channel.

Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against them.

Any help from you really really appreciated.

 

The footage is on the below link on youtube .

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I

 

- A hopeful gay
 

Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[Ratish Dicunha]

you tube has removed this footage





From: "modera...@gaybombay.in" 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 8:22:31 AM
Subject: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

  
 
From:vatsal 
Sent:23 February 2011 05:33
To: modera...@gaybombay.in
Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
 
Hello GayBombay,
 
I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.
TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some innocent 
gay guys very badly.
I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an action 
against this TV channel.
Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against them.
Any help from you really really appreciated.
 
The footage is on the below link on youtube .
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
 
- A hopeful gay
 



  

g_b Not the first time for TV9

[Pradeep Kumar]

TV9 is one of the popular 24 hour Telugu news channel. This is not the first 
time this channel targeted the gay community. There used to be a toilet at the 
entrance of Railway Reservation complex at Secunderabad Railway station (near 
the railway bridge). A couple of years back, this TV9 channel secretly arranged 
cameras there and telecast the gay activities on TV. That led to the removal of 
many gay meeting places in Hyderabad Secunderabad. 

TV9 claims itself to be a modern, "progressive" TV channel. It wages a daily 
relentless crusade against caste system. It telecast several programs targeting 
Hindu beliefs. It claims to be a "secular" TV channel but actually has 
selective and biased opinions. 

--- On Wed, 23/2/11, modera...@gaybombay.in  wrote:

From: modera...@gaybombay.in 
Subject: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 5:22 AM







 



  



  
  
    From: vatsal Sent: 23 February 2011 05:33
To: modera...@gaybombay.in
Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad  Hello GayBombay,  I am mailing to you 
with a lot of hope.TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and 
exposed some innocent gay guys very badly.I, on behalf of all the gay guys in 
India, request you to please take an action against this TV channel.Or atleast 
please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against them.Any help 
from you really really appreciated.  The footage is on the below link on 
youtube .  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I  - A hopeful gay   


 





 



  

Re: g_b TV9 - Expose on PR profile and gay culture in Hyderabad

[Pradeep Kumar]

The video seems to have been removed from Youtube because it violated their 
guidelines.

--- On Tue, 22/2/11, Deep  wrote:

From: Deep 
Subject: g_b TV9 - Expose on PR profile and gay culture in Hyderabad
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 22 February, 2011, 5:14 PM







 



  



  
  
  I don't understand what this commentator is saying but this piece of 
"news" on TV9 is shocking to say the least. They show a "sting" operation on a 
PlanetRomeo profile.
Tv9 - Gay Culture Rampant In Hydhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I

Someone please translate. 
Regards,
Deephttp://gaynotes.blogspot.com



 





 



  

g_b Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[Deep]

Thanks to the efforts of many the offensive video has been removed from
YouTube. Now we need to get the message across to TV9. I tried posting
my protest on the TV9 portal, but my comments don't appear online.
"Tv9 - Gay Culture Rampant In Hyd"This video has been removed because
its content violated YouTube's Terms of Service.

Regards,Deephttp://gaynotes.blogspot.com


--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, moderator@... wrote:
>
>
>
> From: vatsal
>
> Sent: 23 February 2011 05:33
> To: moderator@...
> Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad
>
>
>
> Hello GayBombay,
>
>
>
> I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.
>
> TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some
> innocent gay guys very badly.
>
> I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take
an
> action against this TV channel.
>
> Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action
against
> them.
>
> Any help from you really really appreciated.
>
>
>
> The footage is on the below link on youtube .
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I
>
>
>
> - A hopeful gay
>

Re: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

[geldmann281]

Aditya B from Adhikaar has already drafted a legal note to their Legal 
coordinator asking for apologies and condemning the news broadcast.

This should sound it off to them that we can fight back.

Please declare the video on youtube as hate speech.

Sx
Sent via BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: modera...@gaybombay.in
Sender: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:52:31 
To: 
Reply-To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: g_b FW: Protest Against TV9 Hyderabad

 

From: vatsal 

Sent: 23 February 2011 05:33
To: modera...@gaybombay.in
Subject: Protest Against TV9 Hydrabad

 

Hello GayBombay,

 

I am mailing to you with a lot of hope.

TV9 hydrabad has crossed all the limits of humanity and exposed some
innocent gay guys very badly.

I, on behalf of all the gay guys in India, request you to please take an
action against this TV channel.

Or atleast please let me know how do I go ahead and take an action against
them.

Any help from you really really appreciated.

 

The footage is on the below link on youtube .

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rLELlpI7I

 

- A hopeful gay