g_b Section 377 damaging psychological well-being of homosexuals: Law Commission Chairman [1 Attachment]
Hello Mates (and hello Harish Iyer), Is there anyways we can conjoin, all the LGBT Rights activists and supporting NGO's under one roof? REASON: To solve a PROBLEM, first we need to understand the PROBLEM. PROBLEM: We are asking the Indian Government to renounce/repeal Section 377. But they turn a def-ear to our plea. QUESTION: If it is in the hands of the Govt/Politician, then what do they care about the most? ANSWER: Vote Bank . Unless we have all the LGBT Community + LGBT Rights activists + supporting NGO's + LGBT Pride Organizers+ Celebrities (Celina Jaitley..etc), and the whole plethora of people like ourselves, get under one roof and develop a huge VOTE Bank, we will be always ignored. Yes.I said = I..G..N..O..R..E..D ! EXAMPLE: Even in USA, Obama has to bank on LGBT Equal Rights, to attract voters to win the election. VOTE BANK is that powerful my friend DEMOGRAPHIC STATISTIC: Even if you consider 5% of the population to be a part of LGBT, that still makes us above 7 Carores (but NOT all can vote), but for those who are out, can always persuade their parents, siblings, friends, to SWING THE VOTE, in the favor of that Government who will not only repeal Section 377, but also strengthen our equal rights. TOTAL VOTE BANK ESTIMATE (Aprox.) = 9 to 11 Carore's (LGBT + their parents + Siblings + Supporting Friends + New Age People who support EQUAL RIGHTS) Thats a huge vote bank, to make a huge difference (All II am saying is: HELP ME HELP YOU) Any suggestions? Rahul - An Equal Rights Activist. And the link for the article: Section 377 damaging psychological well-being of homosexuals: Law Commission Chairman - Firstpost | | | | | | | | | | | Section 377 damaging psychological well-being of homosex...The existing laws pertaining to gay sex are damaging the psychological well-being of homosexuals in the country, Law Commission Chairman said. | | | | View on www.firstpost.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | Ardhnarishwara Support Group (cherishing the delightful enchanting Rainbow World)
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Re: g_b Australia's anti-gay churches shift focus to Asia Pacific
Excellent note Vikram, As it is, we are having trouble fighting against Section 377 and in that if such religious organizations come and poison peoples minds, then the challenges will increase many fold. Collectively all the LGBT rights group should protest against them. Only when we all unite, is when we can conquer the world. Very well said Vikaram, Rahul. Ardhnarishwara Support Group (cherishing the delightful enchanting Rainbow World) Group CEO - Ravishing Rahul Headquarters - Vagator, Goa. On Monday, November 10, 2014 1:08 AM, Vikram D vg...@yahoo.co.uk [gay_bombay] gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com wrote: An article that really should be read to alert us to the threat that these ex-gay organisations might pose to use in India. As this article notes, because they are facing a dead end in places like Australia they are shifting their focus to places like India. And far from providing just an individual focused service, they are actively contributing to the rise of institutional homophobia. This will not come as a surprise to many of us. We have got hints of this over the years. I think there was a case when someone from Exodus International came to NLS in Bangalore and was confronted by activists. The participation of evangelical groups like Apostolic Churches Alliance among the petitioners against the Delhi High Court verdict in the Supreme Court also hinted at this kind of support, though groups like these might be trying to cover their traces in order to prevent exposure of this international lobbying - even as they accuse lgbt groups of being funded by international lobbies. We need to be alert for these efforts and try to expose them. So please make note of the names involved here - Ron Brookman, Living Waters Australia, On Eagles Wings to Asia, Exodus Asia Pacific, Shirley Baskett - and publicise their involvement if you come across it. And for real evidence of how twisted and harmful these people are, don't just read the story, but also the extensive discussion in the comments after it. Vikram Australia's anti-gay churches shift focus to Asia Pacific | | | | | | | | | Australia's anti-gay churches shift focus to Asia PacificThe country’s final gay conversion ministry closed last weekend. Now the same pastors are taking their mission overseas. | | | | View on www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | from The Saturday Paper: Australia's anti-gay churches shift focus to Asia Pacific Luke Williams The country’s final gay conversion ministry closed last weekend. Now the same pastors are taking their mission overseas. The little group met last Saturday at Ramsgate Community Church, on the southern flank of Sydney. Attendance at the service was by invitation only. Guests were asked to sign confidentiality agreements, assuring they would not discuss what was said inside. This was the final meeting of the country’s last remaining gay conversion ministry, Living Waters Australia. In a letter to followers issued a few weeks earlier, long-time director Ron Brookman confided that he had been unable to find anyone willing to take up the running of his ministry, and that he sensed God telling him it was “time to wind up”. He blamed a change in Christian culture over the past decade, deficiencies in his own leadership, and changing views on how to “bring healing to the broken”. “Wholesome heterosexuality alone reflects God’s image,” wrote Brookman, who believes the healing power of Jesus Christ eliminated his own homosexual desires. “Though society resists this and is abandoning Godly moral foundations, God’s truth will prevail.” On the other side of Sydney, on the second floor of a Darlinghurst pub, a soft-voiced man named Anthony Venn-Brown stood and spoke. “The trauma, the grief … some of us have taken our own lives because of these ‘change is possible’ programs,” the former ex-gay ministry member said. “Many of us sit here today knowing we too have been to those dark places, where we thought about taking our own lives. And some of us here today know we have tried it.” This event was supposed to be a celebration, marking the end of the Living Waters ministry and the so-called “ex-gay movement” in Australia, but the mood was positively sombre. “It’s not when we first go to these gay conversion programs that does the damage,” Venn-Brown continued. “It’s in the months that follow … Every time we wake up and think about another man we are tormented. You feel like a failure, you feel evil. It’s living out those moments every single day which eventually drives people to suicide.” Living Waters Australia had its heyday in the 1990s when, along with Exodus International, it had popular weekly workshops and programs in all major cities. It also outsourced its material, which meant many local churches ran Living Waters programs for people who sought pastoral advice on same-sex
Re: g_b Striking the wrong note...
QUESTION: I was under the impression that Section 377 is called a De-Facto rule under which no one has been prosecuted yet in India. (Which means the rule is there in existence, but has not been brought into effect til now) Can you please clarify, if that is true? Thanks, Rahul. Ardhnarishwara Support Group (cherishing the delightful enchanting Rainbow World) Group CEO - Ravishing Rahul Headquarters - Vagator, Goa. On Monday, November 10, 2014 1:09 AM, gay_bombay moderator modera...@gaybombay.in [gay_bombay] gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com wrote: Striking the wrong note... Salacious, prurient, insensitive - that is the yellow journalism practiced by much of the media when it reports on gays. The latest case is a good illustration, says VIKRAM JOHRI Posted/Updated Saturday, Nov 01 12:53:29, 2014 In June, a lesbian committed suicide in Chhattisgarh. The act received only cursory coverage, perhaps because the story was from a state that does not normally hit the radar of gay rights. When I searched Google News for lesbian suicide India, links from 2011 and earlier showed up. (Rest assured, if it is a dastardly event, the chances it happened earlier in India are high.) There was only one link to the story, in the June 16 Raipur edition of the Times of India. A 22-year-old woman from Pakhanjur tehsil in Kanker district, who was in a relationship with an allegedly minor girl, had committed suicide. Following the news of her death, her partner also tried to kill herself by consuming poison, the report added. Apart from this news report, the only other mention of the Chhattisgarh story was in a review in Mint of a film about lesbians. Perhaps it is no bad thing that the woman’s suicide or the many other permutations of violence that visit gay people in India do not receive much media coverage. For, when the media does deign to report on gay issues, it is marked by a regrettable lack of sensitivity, making one wonder if homosexuality, that famed “last prejudice”, is organically such a different beast that it is impossible to report or write or speak truly about it unless one is born to it. This week brought a fresh example of this malaise. The headline of the top story of the Bangalore Mirror dated Oct 29, 2014, said: Section 377 slapped on Infosys techie after wife catches his gay acts on spycam. The first paragraph read: Lip gloss, foundation, innerwear in 'girlie' patterns and colours, and a passion for all things pink - these are just some of the traits that set off alarm bells in a dentist's head, almost a year after marriage, that her husband could be gay. Examine the language. This is the same paper whose sister publication in Mumbai peeped into Deepika Padukone's cleavage and found newsworthy material. From the first sentence, there is a desire to turn the story into a narrative - the gay man with a fetish for pink - as the writer watches over the reader's shoulder to induce the appropriate gasp here, the disgusted look there. The words, so carefully chosen to fashion the image of a man thoroughly compromised, tell us what to think before we have had the chance to learn the first detail of the case. To be sure, there are no easy answers in these cases but we rarely see even the relevant questions being raised in the media. There is, for example, no discussion on the irony of applying a law to those who have been forced to stay in the closet because of the law itself. All the media does is report with an eye for prurience. Details of how the marriage broke, the lack of sexual compatibility, the queer habits of the man, are all regurgitated in an effort not to capture a personal tragedy but to arouse the reader's base instincts. Consider another case. The death of Chetan Bharadwaj, an advertising executive in Mumbai, last year was strikingly similar to that of Pushkin Chandra in Delhi in 2004. Both Pushkin and Chetan were affluent, upper middle class men living in metros. They were also gay. The dead bodies of both were discovered naked. Reports indicated they were under the influence of alcohol at the time of death. They had also had sex moments before their deaths which, in both cases, were violent and brutal. There were other similarities. The murderers in both cases were slum dwellers, or labourers. In Pushkin’s case, they were men he had come across on the street. In Chetan’s case, the murderer was a glass worker whom Chetan had met when he came to work in his housing society. Contrast these murders with the lesbian’s suicide in Chhattisgarh. The same media which failed to report the latter went to town with Chetan’s death. (Pushkin’s occurred in a strikingly different media environment ten years ago, and so its coverage does not really count.) The gory details of how he was killed, what his daily itinerary was, etc., were discussed threadbare by nearly all the Mumbai English dailies. There was a tendency, as has
