g_b I will write.

2007-06-06 Thread suhail khan
  Salil, Thank you, aap ney bahuton kay dill kee baat kah daali.
  -Aditya
 
 
  


I have been in a long term relationship...

I do not know where you get your ideas from, but maybe it stems from some 
personal frustrations. Next time you meet somebody who is relation worthy and 
interested, try giving more to the relationship than you get from it. Of course 
you do not have to transmogrify into a doormat in the process. I think if you 
do that, there is a fair chance that it would work. 
   
  Best,
  Aditya B
  
  
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  On 04/06/07, Salil  wrote: 
  Suhail
 
 Try writing shorter emails. Many readers of this list ( I guess) have better 
things to do than to read the same sentence thrice, as it happens to appear in 
your email (I did read through the whole of it, only to discover that the email 
was long not because you had much to say, but because u repeated your lines). 
You could have just said - 
 
 "1. Some older gay men who have been in and out of relationships don't take my 
views on relationships seriously, and I don't like their attitude because I 
think they are stubborn and mistaken in many ways. 
 2. my advice to all young men is that, well-taken photos increase the chances 
of getting gay dates".

Salil, Thank you, aap ney bahuton kay dill kee baat kah daali.
   -Aditya
 
Bahuton ke dil ki baat kya hai, yeh mujhe bhi pata haiaur khaas taur pe aap 
ko to pata ho gi hi...kyuki aap to har doosre par kuch na kuch sarcastic 
comments pass karte hain.aur agar yaad ho to aap ki is aadat par bhi ek 
baar behes chid chuki haikhair.

The e-mail is very long...it may waste your time 

Hi

First of all I completely agree to what Jamie wrote thats a real complete 
e-mail written very perfectly, but everyone has his/her style of writing and I 
have my own.

Where I get my ideas from, well I get my ideas from people only. And its good 
that you have been in a long term relationship and you should be happy and 
thats really good. But what I dont understand is why do you have to get 
irritated on my e-mail, if you dont like my e-mails say that you dont like them 
you apparently get irritated and always write in a non-pleasent sarcastic 
way...its not a decent behaviour to make indirect references, and please dont 
give advices if I should turn into a doormat or something else, its not 
pleasent. I get several personal replies to my e-mails where it hasnt been a 
single time that someone has not written this "please dont take seriously what 
some of the members are saying, continue writing", or "I always wait for your 
e-mails" or  expressed their appreciation. Some also write 2-3 words like "you 
rock" and some even say "your emails suck to the maximum". So I know if some 
dont like, there are many who like.

About the scene of LTR among gays everyone knows that, you know it, I know it, 
everyone knows it, goto internet and read surveys and other news on LTR among 
gays. And I am not frustrated at all, why should I be frustrated, I have lived 
and am living my life with self-respect and dignity and I am not an old guy 
frustrated with life, I think I am quite young and I have many other things in 
life other than this, and if thats a symbol of high-headedness then you have 
mistaken.

Anyways personally I think you are nice guy, its just that you dont like the 
way I write and its ok, everyone cannot like everyone, but is that a nice thing 
to make such references "that if I turn into a doormat, it might work". Its 
not. 

May be the language of my e-mails is too harsh and may be thats why I end up 
irritating few same people all the time. Otherwise there are also always who do 
like what I write. You are a lawyer (I think) and quite a popular known face 
among gays in India, I really dont expect these kind of replies from you where 
it seems you are getting some sort of some satisfaction in belittling the 
writers and most of them know its just not about me, as many personal replies 
said (around 15-20) "I stopped writing because of constant bugging from some of 
the members who have no other job than finding faults, entering debates, 
passing comments and insulting"

Everyone has his/her opinions if many express them why cant I, I am going to 
express what I think, because I know if there are some who dont like, there are 
obviously many who see it objectively and like. So if you dont like what I 
write you dont have to read the e-mails from me. And if you want to reply, 
reply as much as you want, call myE-mails "utter 

Re: g_b I will write

2007-06-07 Thread Salil

Suhail,

1.  Aditya's email said DON'T become a doormat. If you had read carefully you 
would not have misunderstood, neither felt hurt, nor reacted like this.

2. Please actually send me the link for any one of the internet surveys you 
have seen about gay LTRs. I want to read the results which you claim are very 
clear that they don't work or are not common. My experience has been different.

3. Your language is not harsh, what irritates is that you try to pass of your 
personal opinions as facts without any basis, but write pagelong tearful dramas 
if anyone dares to give you a different opinion. Refer point 2 above.

4. A normally cheerful man will say - "oh you found my email long, and didn't 
have time, but still showed patience and read through it and then made a 
precis, may be you have a point about long emails, and i agree / but i 
disagree". The usually morose man will say what you said below - just negative 
and brooding drama !

Cheers (in spite of your rather morose mail!)
Salil

suhail khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"...and please dont give advices if I should turn into a doormat or 
something else,  its not pleasent. is that a nice thing to make such 
references "that if I turn into a doormat, it might work". Its not"

   "About the scene of LTR among gays everyone knows that, you know it, I know 
it, everyone knows it, goto internet and read surveys and other news on LTR 
among gays.."

".May be the language of my e-mails is too harsh and may be thats why I end 
up irritating few same people all the time. "

"...because if you dont have time and you are concising my very long e-mail and 
even presenting a precis of it to me and others, then what else can I say."







 

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Re: g_b I will write

2007-06-07 Thread ajay kumar
Dear friends 
   
  It’s a known fact all over world and more specially in India that neither 
MOST of the gays happen to be in LTR nor they invest and try enough to make it 
work, though most of them like to remain in some kind of imaginary world and 
will keep on saying they are trying to find their soul mate, even after 1th 
guy they went with for an overnight sojourn or in a bloody parked car in a 
secluded area.
  The reasons for this are many and are not limited to the unavailability of 
willing candidates but are as diverse as
  *Easy availability of gay or straight guys for a quick sex work as the 
driving force of gay sex life. Gay sex life flourishes in the meeting of the 
eyes on the street , seduction on the roads , be it a lift man , or a doodh 
wala bhaiya or a plumber every one is and can be an object of desire and sex. 
You don’t need to invest any time, talent or  money to seduce guys and before 
one expect it they are more than willing to oblige, and who would not be , 
after all they are MEN.
  * Most of the gays lead a double life by faking a life of being a 
heterosexual and getting married to a girl and no they are not bi sexual but 
gay who go to toilet and brush their teeth every time they HAVE to kiss their 
wife or girl friend. The reasons are many, let’s face it we in India live a 
family oriented life so most of us cannot afford the luxury of falling in love 
with a gay and have to resort to a double life.
  To sum it up I will just write in points

   easy availability of sex  
   rarity of people who are serious to be in LTR  
   falling for guys who are wrong …..most of them are   
   rejecting those who really love them  
   social stigma
  and many others 
   
  thanks for your time 
   
  Ajay 
   
   


Salil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
Suhail,

1.  Aditya's email said DON'T become a doormat. If you had read carefully you 
would not have misunderstood, neither felt hurt, nor reacted like this.

2. Please actually send me the link for any one of the internet surveys you 
have seen about gay LTRs. I want to read the results which you claim are very 
clear that they don't work or are not common. My experience has been different.

3. Your language is not harsh, what irritates is that you try to pass of your 
personal opinions as facts without any basis, but write pagelong tearful dramas 
if anyone dares to give you a different opinion. Refer point 2 above.

4. A normally cheerful man will say - "oh you found my email long, and didn't 
have time, but still showed patience and read through it and then made a 
precis, may be you have a point about long emails, and i agree / but i 
disagree". The usually morose man will say what you said below - just negative 
and brooding drama !

Cheers (in spite of your rather morose mail!)
Salil

suhail khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
  "...and please dont give advices if I should turn into a doormat or 
something else, its not pleasent. is that a nice thing to make such 
references "that if I turn into a doormat, it might work". Its not"

  "About the scene of LTR among gays everyone knows that, you know it, I know 
it, everyone knows it, goto internet and read surveys and other news on LTR 
among gays.."

".May be the language of my e-mails is too harsh and may be thats why I end 
up irritating few same people all the time. "

"...because if you dont have time and you are concising my very long e-mail and 
even presenting a precis of it to me and others, then what else can I say."


  



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Re: g_b I will write

2007-06-07 Thread Siddharth 82
I think both Suhail and Salil are idiots, Suhail is an idiot that he keeps 
clarifying himself for which there is no need, if he is really as smart as he 
appears from his e-mails,he should know nothing is going to enter in Salil's 
head, but alas Suhail is really an idiot. and Salil is an idiot that even 
though he thinks Suhail's e-mails are useless he is not able to restrain 
himself from reading and replying to them in a stupid way all the time.

Cheers to the two big "S" idiots!
Siddharth

Salil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
Suhail,

1.  Aditya's email said DON'T become a doormat. If you had read carefully you 
would not have misunderstood, neither felt hurt, nor reacted like this.

2. Please actually send me the link for any one of the internet surveys you 
have seen about gay LTRs. I want to read the results which you claim are very 
clear that they don't work or are not common. My experience has been different.

3. Your language is not harsh, what irritates is that you try to pass of your 
personal opinions as facts without any basis, but write pagelong tearful dramas 
if anyone dares to give you a different opinion. Refer point 2 above.

4. A normally cheerful man will say - "oh you found my email long, and didn't 
have time, but still showed patience and read through it and then made a 
precis, may be you have a point about long emails, and i agree / but i 
disagree". The usually morose man will say what you said below - just negative 
and brooding drama  !

Cheers (in spite of your rather morose mail!)
Salil

suhail khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   
"...and please dont give advices if I should turn into a doormat or 
something else,  its not pleasent. is that a nice thing to make such 
references "that if I turn into a doormat, it might work". Its not"

   "About the scene of LTR among gays everyone knows that, you know it, I know 
it, everyone knows it, goto internet and read surveys and other news on LTR 
among  gays.."

".May be the language of my e-mails is too harsh and may be thats why I end 
up irritating few same people all the time. "

"...because if you dont have time and you are concising my very long e-mail and 
even presenting a precis of it to me and others, then what else can I say."





 

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Re: g_b I will write

2007-06-07 Thread asfan
Is there any need for such venom and invective?
  Being so rude and impolite doesn't reflect well on oneself.
  A.

Siddharth 82 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I think both Suhail and Salil are idiots, Suhail is an idiot that he 
keeps clarifying himself for which there is no need, if he is really as smart 
as he appears from his e-mails,he should know nothing is going to enter in 
Salil's head, but alas Suhail is really an idiot. and Salil is an idiot 
that even though he thinks Suhail's e-mails are useless he is not able to 
restrain himself from reading and replying to them in a stupid way all the time.

Cheers to the two big "S" idiots!
Siddharth





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