gEDA-user: Need help finding Conexant CX25874-24 (TV chip)

2010-03-23 Thread Timothy Normand Miller
We've got OGD1 boards at the assembly house, and we've run into a
supply problem.  The Conexant CX25874-24, the TV output chip we
selected, has reached end-of-life, and we're having trouble finding a
broker who will supply them at a reasonable price.  For instance, one
broker we contacted hasn't even responded to our inquiries.

So, we're asking for help on this one.  We need to find the best price
on 25 to 30 of these chips.  Our original quote (which we had factored
into the budget) was $9.68 each.

We should also discuss the option of skipping this altogether, which
would save us time and money.  Plus, if the best price is too high,
we'll skip it anyhow.  We can come up with a clever FPGA solution that
involves using the VGA DAC to generate s-video.

The Conexant CX25874-24 is in a 64-pin TQFP package.


P.S. I wanted to be sure to thank those of you who helped with my
previous question regarding the fried FPGA dev board.  We're in the
process or locating replacements for the capacitor, diode, and the
voltage regulators.

-- 
Timothy Normand Miller
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~millerti
Open Graphics Project


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Re: gEDA-user: Need help finding Conexant CX25874-24 (TV chip)

2010-03-23 Thread Timothy Normand Miller
We now have multiple quotes, so we're all set.  Thanks to those who responded.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Timothy Normand Miller
theo...@gmail.com wrote:
 We've got OGD1 boards at the assembly house, and we've run into a
 supply problem.  The Conexant CX25874-24, the TV output chip we
 selected, has reached end-of-life, and we're having trouble finding a
 broker who will supply them at a reasonable price.  For instance, one
 broker we contacted hasn't even responded to our inquiries.

 So, we're asking for help on this one.  We need to find the best price
 on 25 to 30 of these chips.  Our original quote (which we had factored
 into the budget) was $9.68 each.

 We should also discuss the option of skipping this altogether, which
 would save us time and money.  Plus, if the best price is too high,
 we'll skip it anyhow.  We can come up with a clever FPGA solution that
 involves using the VGA DAC to generate s-video.

 The Conexant CX25874-24 is in a 64-pin TQFP package.


 P.S. I wanted to be sure to thank those of you who helped with my
 previous question regarding the fried FPGA dev board.  We're in the
 process or locating replacements for the capacitor, diode, and the
 voltage regulators.

 --
 Timothy Normand Miller
 http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~millerti
 Open Graphics Project




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http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~millerti
Open Graphics Project


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gEDA-user: Funny pad rotation

2010-03-23 Thread Windell H. Oskay
I'm having an issue exporting my board from PCB as a gerber.

Please take a look at this screenshot:  http://flickr.com/gp/oskay/L98vvn

The pads look normal-- square to the page --in PCB, but are rotated strangely 
when I export as gerber.

The footprint, as it appears in my PCB document is:

Element[ gullwing_opto IRD201 unknown 325000 262500 -7000 -17500 0 100 
]
(
Pad[-6703 -1 -6700 1 4000 2000 5000  1 square]
Pad[6700 1 6703 -1 4000 2000 5000  2 square]
ElementLine [-3000 -8900 -3000 -6900 700]
ElementLine [-3000 8900 -3000 6900 700]
ElementLine [6700 -7900 6700 -4400 700]
ElementLine [6700 7900 6700 4400 700]
ElementLine [-6700 -7900 -6700 -4400 700]
ElementLine [-6700 7900 -6700 4400 700]
ElementLine [-6700 -7900 6700 -7900 700]
ElementLine [-6700 7900 6700 7900 700]
ElementArc [-3000 0 4000 4000 45 270 700]

)

Is this a known bug?  Any workaround?

Thanks!
-Windell


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Re: gEDA-user: Funny pad rotation

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Rages
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Windell H. Oskay wind...@oskay.net wrote:
 I'm having an issue exporting my board from PCB as a gerber.

 Please take a look at this screenshot:  http://flickr.com/gp/oskay/L98vvn

 The pads look normal-- square to the page --in PCB, but are rotated strangely 
 when I export as gerber.

 The footprint, as it appears in my PCB document is:

 Element[ gullwing_opto IRD201 unknown 325000 262500 -7000 -17500 0 
 100 ]
 (
        Pad[-6703 -1 -6700 1 4000 2000 5000  1 square]
        Pad[6700 1 6703 -1 4000 2000 5000  2 square]
        ElementLine [-3000 -8900 -3000 -6900 700]
        ElementLine [-3000 8900 -3000 6900 700]
        ElementLine [6700 -7900 6700 -4400 700]
        ElementLine [6700 7900 6700 4400 700]
        ElementLine [-6700 -7900 -6700 -4400 700]
        ElementLine [-6700 7900 -6700 4400 700]
        ElementLine [-6700 -7900 6700 -7900 700]
        ElementLine [-6700 7900 6700 7900 700]
        ElementArc [-3000 0 4000 4000 45 270 700]

        )

 Is this a known bug?  Any workaround?


Are the pads exactly square?  (sorry about my laziness to do the math).

Try making them slightly rectangular.  That worked for me for going
the other way:  I found it impossible to rotate a perfectly square pad
45 degrees.

Regards,
Mark
markra...@gmail
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Mark Rages, Engineer
Midwest Telecine LLC
markra...@midwesttelecine.com


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Re: gEDA-user: Funny pad rotation

2010-03-23 Thread DJ Delorie

That's really wierd.

The exports are correct, the GUI is wrong - your footprint really does
have oddly rotated pads:

 Pad[-6703 -1 -6700 1 ...

That's a dX of 3 and a dY of 2.  If you enable thindraw (the | key) it
shows the correctly rotated outlines.

Debugging...


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Re: gEDA-user: Funny pad rotation

2010-03-23 Thread Windell H. Oskay

On Mar 23, 2010, at 1:19 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:

 
 That's really wierd.
 
 The exports are correct, the GUI is wrong - your footprint really does
 have oddly rotated pads:
 
 Pad[-6703 -1 -6700 1 ...
 
 That's a dX of 3 and a dY of 2.  If you enable thindraw (the | key) it
 shows the correctly rotated outlines.
 
 Debugging...

Wow-- yes-- you're right.  It sure shows up in thindraw mode.

Thanks!

-Windell



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Re: gEDA-user: Funny pad rotation

2010-03-23 Thread DJ Delorie

Looks like a fundamental design issue.  We use the X layer to draw
lines, which includes pads, but with the tiny offsets in the x,y
points, we end up passing two points to the X layer that have the same
coordinates, so it draws a zero-angle line.  If you zoom in far
enough, eventually rotates the pad on the screen.

To get this right, we'd have to somehow calculate when X is going to
do the wrong thing based on our scaling, and draw those lines as
polygons instead, so that we can do the math with more precision.


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Re: gEDA-user: ten pages of command line options

2010-03-23 Thread Dan McMahill

DJ Delorie wrote:

I think there needs to be a way to specify the sort key and section
heading separately, as bom-Options is not a good text for a section
heading.

Perhaps a mapping between sort key and section heading could be found
once, rather than have to include both for every option?



that would be useful.  Also we need to have a way I think in the index 
to somehow sort on HID or something since some options exist in more 
than one exporter.


This is a great start however.  Hopefully with some minor tweaks to the 
perl script and the sort keys it will be good to go.


Is the list of exporters somehow generated automatically?  I'm asking 
because the gcode exporter is missing.


-Dan


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Re: gEDA-user: ten pages of command line options

2010-03-23 Thread kai-martin knaak
Dan McMahill wrote:

 DJ Delorie wrote:
 I think there needs to be a way to specify the sort key and section
 heading separately, as bom-Options is not a good text for a section
 heading.

ack. 
I just took, what the extract-docs script produces with no modifications 
whatsoever.


 Also we need to have a way I think in the index
 to somehow sort on HID or something since some options exist in more
 than one exporter.

This would need much more intelligence in the perl script. It probably 
implies multiple runs -- first gather all comments from all files, then 
assemble lists of options for every HID and finally produce texi output for 
every HID and for the majority of options that are allowed for every HID.
I don't feel, the benefit justifies the effort. IMHO, we can get away with 
notes like the one that links PS and EPS options. 


 This is a great start however.  Hopefully with some minor tweaks to the
 perl script and the sort keys it will be good to go.

ack. 
Unfortunately I am a perl illiterate. I actually haven't written a single 
line of perl, yet. So the syntax is all egyptian to me. But I am willing to 
learn on the subject. I'll try to understand the code enough to add 
differentiation of heading and sort key. Would anyone answer a series of 
noobie questions? 

---)kaimartin(---
-- 
Kai-Martin Knaak
Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel:
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Re: gEDA-user: ten pages of command line options

2010-03-23 Thread DJ Delorie

 Would anyone answer a series of noobie questions?

I wrote it, so I get to answer the noobie questions :-)


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