Re: gEDA-user: Source file not found
Mike Bushroe mbush...@gmail.com writes: John, Thanks for the clarification. I checked and I have created a unique 'name':'number' for each net attribute, and matched input to output names. If a net is formed for each unique name:number, and all inputs and outputs with that unique name are combined together, then that was exactly what I was looking for. The number must be :1 in all cases, because it is pin 1 of the IO-symbol, that your net connects to. -- Stephan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Used LPKF ProtoMat S62 PCB Router for sale
In the past (see list archives) I'd mentioned that I'd worked with a LPKF ProtoMat S62 circuit board router. The owner of that equipment passed on unexpectedly. The estate asked me to pass on this message, to anyone that might put the equipment to good use: LPKF ProtoMat S62 for sale: http://www.lpkfusa.com/protomat/s62.htm I am looking to sell our circuit board plotter. I'm selling the plotter, press, computer, vacuum pump, UV lamp and miscellaneous consumables for $20,000.00. Plotter and peripheral equipment produce multilayer PCBs, eight layers seems to be the max, up to 9 in x 12 in size, with plated through-hole support. It took me about four hours to make a four layer board the first time I used this system. I know the equipment was well take care of, and cost about $60k+ when it was bought new in 2006. Sold only as the complete set and you must pick it up in the Pittsburgh/Cleveland region, due to the weight, which is several hundred pounds for the press alone. May be able to get it delivered via one of the principles pickup truck if necessary. For full disclosure I was offered a commission to sell this, which I declined, just want to see the family move on with their lives, and funerals are far more expensive than most people realize. Send me an email off list if you are interested. I might see if I can get the Boss to buy this but business is very slow, so I'm reasonably sure the accounts will kill this idea. Life is short, we never know when our number is going to be up... -- http://blog.softwaresafety.net/ http://www.designer-iii.com/ http://www.wearablesmartsensors.com/ http://www.unusualresearch.com/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: On Deprecation of GtkTearoffMenuItem
Hi, For those who care or use menu/submenu tear-off feature (GtkTearOffMenuItem), please read: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602882 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2010-May/msg00153.html Also please read: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2010-May/msg00147.html * revise 'deprecatable' list - GtkTearoffMenuItem (used by a vocal minority, complicates GtkMenu code) I, along with some others, have expressed our views on this issue, and would like the GTK+ development team members to kindly reconsider this issue. We would also like to hear from other GTK+ developers/ Application-developers/users on their usages of GtkTearOffMenuItem, so that all of us can get a better understanding of what is at stake there. Best Regards, Paul Tan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb to pcb error
Are you footprints in the directories you indicate, or subdirectories of the directories you indicate? Are you running gsch2pcb project to use that project file? You might also have a file name that matches an M4 macro name. I like to put a suffix on mine to prevent that, like 0603dj.fp instead of 0603.fp. First off, thanks to all! I FINALLY got PCB to open a file, and an un-edited one straight from gsch2cpb! However, many elements have no, or at most only 1 rat line, so I still need to find what is wrong a fix those. I have never successfully added rat lines in PCB, I always had to uncheck drc and draw in the traces and then drc back on. DJ, thanks again for all the help. No, there are no subdirectories. I have an unsorted pile of downloaded and home made footprints in the package directory. And no they don't match M4 macros. Before I copied them all into /usr/share gsch2pcb reported them as unfindable, and therefore items not added to the layout. And yes, that is exactly the way I call gsch2pcb. I could not conceive of typing all the schematic files names by hand each time. I am REAL glad that there is a project file that does that for me! During the night, I had trouble finding the duplicate footprint symbols and so used gedit. When I next ran gsch2pcb I got a 'Tried to attach a non-text item as an attribute' error message multiple times. It appeared to be localised to ROV_2010_analog.sch, but I could not find exactly where or what it was complaining about. Perhaps I needed a Hex editor to see non-printing characters, Have the error message mention the last successful refdes in the error message would help localise the problem if it shows up again in the future. This time I copied a slightly older version of the file over and went back to trying to make the fixes through gschem and gattrib. I also tried using gnetlist with drc2 to locate the errors, but it always did a segfault before leaving any text on screen or in the file. It looks like geda symbol nmos-2 uses pinnumber S,G,D instead of 1,2,3, and that might be causing some of my missing rat lines. I am just about to try changing the symbol file and see how much that fixes. Then the scary job of placing all those components, connectors, and traces! Mike ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb to pcb error
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:31 -0700, Mike Bushroe wrote: It looks like geda symbol nmos-2 uses pinnumber S,G,D instead of 1,2,3, and that might be causing some of my missing rat lines. Sure, Symbols and Footprints have to match, so use SDG in both, or 123 in both. I think SDG should indicate a generic one -- replace SDG by 123 in correct order matching your footprint and rename the symbol to the name of the exact device name. That is what I did for some bipolar devices, see my area a gedasymbols. It seems that you had really much trouble -- more than me in the last 3 years since I started using gEDA/PCB. Maybe you can make a summary of the most serious problems and someone can put that list in the wiki. Unintended use of M4 macros seems to be one of your problems, I had that problem long ago too, but I can not remember details. Best regards Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb to pcb error
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 21:28 -0700, Mike Bushroe wrote: I forgot to mention I put several lines in the project file. I am still new enough to just call it 'project'. The file is: component-library /home/mike/gaf/symbols element-library /home/mike/gaf/packages element-dir /home/mike/gaf/packages schematics ATMega164P_motherboard.sch ROV_2010_analog.sch ROV_2010_power.sch ROV_2010_Hydraulics.sch ROV_2010_I2C.sch ROV_2010_subprocesser.sch ROV_2010_camera.sch output -name ROV-2010_motherboard You may note, in a gsch2pcb project file lines with component-library and element-library should not exist. You need elements-dir for your footprint directories. And all files following schematics keyword have to be in one long line! You may try the entry skip-m4 to ignore M4, for testing. I have ste...@amd64x2 /mnt/data/stefan/gEDA/DAD $ cat p1 schematics FPGA_Power.sch FPGA_B0B1.sch FPGA_B2B3.sch RAM.sch ADC.sch TDC.sch Digital_In_A.sch Digital_In_B.sch Digital_In_C.sch InputDividerCh1.sch InputDividerCh2.sch AmplifierCh1.sch AmplifierCh2.sch Controller.sch PowerManager.sch DC_DC_Converter.sch Lin_Regulators.sch Misc.sch AmpCommon.sch output-name b1 skip-m4 elements-dir /usr/local/share/pcb-symbols-jcl_2008-4-25 elements-dir ../imported-footprints elements-dir ../gedasymbols.org_salewski_footprints elements-dir ../custom-footprints #elements-dir local-footprints ste...@amd64x2 /mnt/data/stefan/gEDA/DAD $ cat gschemrc (define default-titleblock Titleblock_A4-1.sym) (paper-size 11.69 8.27) ; A4 (window-size 1400 990) ; Good size for 1600x1200 (print-command lp -d pdf-printer) ;(postscript-font-scale 1.2) ste...@amd64x2 /mnt/data/stefan/gEDA/DAD $ cat gafrc (debug-options (list 'stack 20)) (component-library ../imported-symbols/) (component-library ../gedasymbols.org_salewski_symbols/) (component-library ../custom-symbols/) ;(component-library local-symbols/) Maybe you should start with only one schematics sheet, to find which sheet and which symbols/footprints make trouble. Did you read the tutorials http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/gs/gs.html http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:transistor_guide Best wishes Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb to pcb error
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:31 -0700, Mike Bushroe wrote: During the night, I had trouble finding the duplicate footprint symbols and so used gedit. When I next ran gsch2pcb I got a 'Tried to attach a non-text item as an attribute' error message multiple times. Strange -- what can be the reason for duplicate footprints in symbols? I think I have seen at least one symbol with something like footprint2= or #footprint= to indicate alternate footprints? I think gschem shows us such duplicate alternatives, maybe gattrib not? Modifying the .pcb file with an texteditor may be waste of your time, because gsch2pcb may try to revert your changes when you call it next time. I would suggest to use the editor to find the footprints duplicates, then use gschem to correct the symbols and then generate a new correct pcb board with gsch2pcb. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: On Deprecation of GtkTearoffMenuItem
This is the best news I've read on this list since subscribing. I've complained about tear-off menus since at least year 2000. Shit is annoying, gets in the way, prevents proper keyboard operation, yadayada. Kill it with fire. -tc On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:57 AM, Paul Tan pt75...@aim.com wrote: Hi, For those who care or use menu/submenu tear-off feature (GtkTearOffMenuItem), please read: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602882 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2010-May/msg00153.html Also please read: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2010-May/msg00147.html * revise 'deprecatable' list - GtkTearoffMenuItem (used by a vocal minority, complicates GtkMenu code) I, along with some others, have expressed our views on this issue, and would like the GTK+ development team members to kindly reconsider this issue. We would also like to hear from other GTK+ developers/ Application-developers/users on their usages of GtkTearOffMenuItem, so that all of us can get a better understanding of what is at stake there. Best Regards, Paul Tan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: PCB 45 degree lines
Hi, I know we've gone over this before, but I still can't get a decent 45 degree line. I've changed to the ,45 line type instead of -/ type and have the same problem. Last time I brought this up, I was trying to attach to an already drawn line segment and right at the connection point there is some jaggedness. Well this hasn't gotten better. But worse, is when drawing one complete line from pad to pad, with a long 45 angle, the raged lines appear. It passes DRC, but just looks kind of lousy. I'm using 8 mil lines, 8 mil space and 1 mill grid space - if that helps any. thanks gene ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
