Re: gEDA-user: zview/ngscope
Rick, I wrote ngscope to suit analog designer need, including update of plots on fly. So far it is possible to do through menu. If you have any interface in mind I may easy include it into my code. Additional features includes - choose any X-axis, equation driven interface, support for user defined functions library. I'm working on it adding new features. If you have some particular in mind - let me know please. Thanks, Alex. On 04/17/2011 01:15 PM, rickman wrote: On 4/4/2011 11:44 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: A.Burinskiy wrote: I did not saw satisfactory analog viewer for ngspice. Could you please send me a link or project name? Over the years several waveform projects have been tossed around on this list: gwavehttp://gwave.sourceforge.net/ gtkwave http://gtkwave.sourceforge.net/ KJWaves http://sourceforge.net/projects/kjwaves/ dataplot http://www.h-renrew.de/h/dataplot/dataplot.html When I had the need for an interactive waveform viewer that could also be driven by an application, I had good success with xmgrace http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/ It is fully scriptable and can produce publication quality plots, too. Would any of these be suitable for a real time update of an o'scope display? I'm just batting around some ideas and would like to find some software to base an o'scope UI on. Rick ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Alexander Burinskiy IC design San Jose, CA, 95129 (408)230-3458 (cell) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: zview/ngscope
Hi Kaimartin, I did not saw satisfactory analog viewer for ngspice. Could you please send me a link or project name? My goal was to have viewer for ngspice, which I use for IC design, with all the specific requirements for this field. Thus I suit ngsope for this - analyzes ngspice waveforms, noise plots, biasing observation, stability analyzes (Bode plots), transients etc. I do not know any viewer with such capabilities in OSS. Integration of simulator and gschem - that is gschem developers business, but I do not think it will ever happened due to obvious reason - there is no in OSS standard simulator which everyone uses. I prefer ngspice - the most powerful simulator in OSS. Second reason - integration by itself useless, to make it powerful models should be developed for every component used. Another reason - UNIX is terminal driven thing, with all the consequences. From my practice - GUI is just a candy - too much sugar and no health, it significantly limits tool capability By the way, I remember sourceforge has at list one GUI with interface to simulator. I try this long time ago. Useless. Thanks, Alex. On 04/04/2011 03:04 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: A.Burinskiy wrote: Due to name conflict I rename program zview to ngscope, did minor corrections and submit it to sourceforge again. Just curious: Why are there so many projects for viewers of simulation data? I'd personally see the more immediate need in a better integration of simulation with the gschem GUI. ---)kaimartin(--- ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: zview/ngscope
Hi Andrzej, Thank you very much for the warm words. If you do not mind, could you please send me result of ngscope -v It should tell wxWidget version against which it was compiled. Also, could you please send me what exactly exception was generated and what file you did use as a test. Thanks a lot, Alex. On 04/04/2011 10:19 PM, Andrzej wrote: Alex, I just wanted to say that I'm watching your project with interest and that I don't consider ngscope yet another waveform viewer. If you could bring it to a usable state it would be very useful tool for my own work. I've tried it but it throws an exception when loading simulation results (using your own sample data) and then fails to do anything as the signal list is empty. Tested on Ubuntu 11.4 beta. I'm also following the development of oscopy, although it seems to focus more on data post-processing rather than interactive work with simulation results (still, it is pretty good, if it only supported more input formats). On these rare occasions when I tried OS simulators I was usually viewing the results in a spice3 built-in viewer or gwave. Neither of them really had features I'd expect from a good waveform viewer. IMHO writing a good waveform viewer is a great thing to do, as it is an easiest way of getting a foothold in the real-world workflows. Schematic/PCB/layout editors suffer from severe vendor lock-in, professional grade simulators or verification tools are niche and difficult to implement. In comparison, waveform viewers are relatively easy and are being used all the time by almost every engineer working in the field. Thanks, Andrzej On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:45 PM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kaimartin, I did not saw satisfactory analog viewer for ngspice. Could you please send me a link or project name? My goal was to have viewer for ngspice, which I use for IC design, with all the specific requirements for this field. Thus I suit ngsope for this - analyzes ngspice waveforms, noise plots, biasing observation, stability analyzes (Bode plots), transients etc. I do not know any viewer with such capabilities in OSS. Integration of simulator and gschem - that is gschem developers business, but I do not think it will ever happened due to obvious reason - there is no in OSS standard simulator which everyone uses. I prefer ngspice - the most powerful simulator in OSS. Second reason - integration by itself useless, to make it powerful models should be developed for every component used. Another reason - UNIX is terminal driven thing, with all the consequences. From my practice - GUI is just a candy - too much sugar and no health, it significantly limits tool capability By the way, I remember sourceforge has at list one GUI with interface to simulator. I try this long time ago. Useless. Thanks, Alex. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: zview/ngscope
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Re: gEDA-user: zview
Hello, Sorry for inconvenience, for some reason file was uploaded partially. Please try again. md5sum in the readme. Will place screenshots soon. Thanks, Alex. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: zview
Dear gEDA community, I publish program on sourceforge.org that displays ngspice raw files. Project name is zview. Appreciate any feedback. Thanks, Alex. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-09-28
Hi Al,
I have difficulty getting raw file as an output of simulation using
version that is shipped with Fedora 11. Does something changed since
that time? Or how I could get raw file out of simulation? (I'm going to
try big simulation that produces a lot of data)
Thanks,
Alex.
On 09/28/2009 05:04 PM, al davis wrote:
There is a new development snapshot available ...
http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28.tar.gz
Optional plugin files:
http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28-models-bsim.tar.gz
http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28-models-jspice3-2.5.tar.gz
http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28-models-ngspice17.tar.gz
http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28-models-spice3f5.tar.gz
http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28-tools.tar.gz
This file contains the md5sum of the other files, so you can
check for a proper download:
http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28.md5sum
This release has changes to the elaboration phase of simulation.
There are three differences you will see ..
1. (Important!)
It fixes a bug that sometimes caused incorrect parameter values
in some cases. The bug would manifest with a certain combination
of subcircuits, models, and parameters.
In particular, something like this would give bad results:
.subckt foo (a k)
.model dio d (is={isat})
dfoo (a k) dio
.ends
...
x1 (1 2) foo isat=1u
x2 (2 3) foo isat=2u
...
.. would have the wrong value of isat.
Circuits that did not have this combination of models, subckt, and params
did not have this problem.
2. (cosmetic)
Taming of redundant warnings that would be printed in the
elaboration phase. Also, bad parameter warnings from
spice models using plugins are now printed, only once,
on readin, instead of multiple times on elaboration.
3. (new models)
The tarball models-bsim includes new models, including
the new BSIM4SOI, released Sep 22 and the new BSIM465,
release Sep 9.
===
As usual, to get started you need only the main package
gnucap-2009-xx-xx.tar.gz .
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Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister
On 08/10/2009 06:03 AM, John Doty wrote: On Aug 9, 2009, at 9:59 PM, A.Burinskiy wrote: John, Do you mean that one day source= attribute is reference to schematic, another day it is something else? No, I mean that many back ends need to see a flat netlist, while in the future others will need to see the hierarchy. The ones that need to see the hierarchy will need to see the source= attributes. All of them. If I'm correct source= has the same meaning regardless flat or hierarchical netlist. We have to stick to some reasonable meaning of all attributes, at list to be able to exchange libraries and collect our work over the years, isn't it? Yes. That's one reason I recommended you master the documentation for spice-sdb before writing another SPICE netlister. I think I'm getting closer to what you mean, but not yet there. I think about expanding routin for some back end, but still thinking what lang. I should use for that. May be simpliest would be something like printf %refdes %net %attr ? Rather then full blown language? Guile too complex for this simple task. Any way the most critical for me now is waveform viewer. I found that existing few do not fit the purpose, and I'm dealing with that. If you convince me I will do two tasks in || - and will write backend. Talking about ynetlist: it has exactly front, inner, and backend. I call it component/net collection, symbol elaboration, output netlist. By modifying only output I may create any netlist. But yet I do not see a reason why user should mangle with programming It is programmer responsibility to cover all needs. I absolutely and emphatically disagree. Users cannot count on programmers to solve the right problems. Programmers are masters of technique, but the most important knowledge needed to make a successful program is understanding of the *application*. Users need to take that responsibility. It's similar to writing a scientific paper: a scientist must be the main author. A technical writer is very useful in the process, but not central. Programming is an essential enabling skill, similar to technical writing. Everybody should have a reasonable level of competence here. Specialist programmers are there to help produce the highest quality product, not to choose how to address the problem to In commercial world it is absolutely true, and I 100% agree with you. But we are in Open source domain. Main difference? Right! In Open Source World the programs are written by end users! be solved. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user Alex. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister
John, It is not a big deal to write a parser. The big deal is creating meaningful language. Flexible enough, yet not overloaded with features, transparent and logical, understandable not only for designer, but to end user too. My problem is that I'm newbee for the PCB. Just started using commercial tool. And already very happy with that Over years I was busy with IC design and IC layouts. My last PCB design was shortly after graduation. So, I do have little knowledge of PCB community needs. I wrote netlister for IC community (or beeing precise - for me). If you could give me a hint on lang. semantic that would be usefull, I will gladly write parser. I think that gnetlist implementation is too heavy and not flexible enough. It depends too much on device= attr. For example, to determine whether something is netlistable or not it is enough to see whether it has isDef(refdes) (device!=none). /*In reality I do some more checks*/, rather then writing semantic for each individual device. Special case - in/out terminals of subcircuit, that should parse there names to subcircuit nets... etc (One of the reason I decided to hardcode backend). Attributes could be filtered out, rather then verified against valid list one by one, as its done on gnetlist. All this little things allows to avoid extensive backend programming, when introducing new very simple device cause Guile/Schem study Lets work on some universal netlister that will be accepted by both IC and PCB communities? Alex. On 08/10/2009 07:57 AM, John Doty wrote: I agree. But how it's to be *processed* depends on the needs of the netlist back end. It'd be nice, for example, to have a gnetlist back end that can extract the dependency graph for a hierarchical design. In the past, my tool for doing that has been a Japanese grad student. ;-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister
John, Do you mean that one day source= attribute is reference to schematic, another day it is something else? We have to stick to some reasonable meaning of all attributes, at list to be able to exchange libraries and collect our work over the years, isn't it? Talking about ynetlist: it has exactly front, inner, and backend. I call it component/net collection, symbol elaboration, output netlist. By modifying only output I may create any netlist. But yet I do not see a reason why user should mangle with programming It is programmer responsibility to cover all needs. Alex. On 08/09/2009 04:43 PM, John Doty wrote: On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: For me that's not the issue: the issue is that you're putting yet another gnetlist behavior out of reach of back end control. You mean, the behavior of a netlister should depend on the order of components in the *.sch file? Please give an example if you seriously think so. No. The order isn't the issue. The issue is that the front end should not arbitrarily restrict which attributes the back end gets to see. In this case the arbitrary selection is based on order, but it's the arbitrariness that's the problem. not the order. A back end that processes hierarchy on its own should see all of the source= attributes. A more sophisticated BOM than we have might usefully choose from multiple manufacturers' part numbers. But remember that neither you nor I can anticipate what information a future back end might need. Don't focus narrowly on specific scenarios. Let the back ends decide what they need to see. Don't hard wire decisions in the front end code. In this case, remove the arbitrary selection from the hard wired code and put it in the middle layer, where the back end can bypass it as needed. This kind of flexibility is gEDA's greatest strength. DO NOT DAMAGE IT. Don't hard wire anything new. Instead, let's improve it, move the decisions to the middle layer and back ends. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Alexander Burinskiy IC design San Jose, CA, 95129 (408)230-3458 (cell) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister
Hi R, I thought about implementing some language for netlist and after all I decided to go with plain C++ and get rid of using device attribute unless it is absolutely necessary (such as input/output pin) and give more strength to user symbol definition relying on the fact that end user knows what [s]he does. After all, each symbol translated into very fixed semantic (Refdes node1 node2 name attributes ...). Major problem - if syntax of gschem files will be changed, then gschem may loose compatibility with all previously collected works! Thus, if gschem will change format of output files it will change it in compatible way or being more strict - only on incremental way. In this case it would not be hard to make incremental adds to the code, if algorithm itself is flexible and transparent enough (C++, pcb/spice output formats, flattening/hierarchical some keys in config file). If you think of adding more flexibility I will be more than glad to change the code. Speaking more about netlisters. Scriptising netlister - adding language inside language (you translate from .sch lang. to .net lang. using script) will force netlister to be more hardcoded (that is what happened with gnetlist, is not it?) instead of expectations to make more flexible semantic. And, finally, me, as a user, will not be happy to change the script each time I add new symbol! In one word - I made my life easier choosing C++ without Perl or whatever. I think that definite advantage of using script will have tool that involves highly interactive tasks, for example analyzing result of simulation using waveform viewer, layout creation tool, PR Even for schematic entry - I doubt that scriptising schematic capture tool will help! Regards, Alex. On 08/01/2009 03:17 AM, r wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear gEDA community members, I created yet another netlister for gschem. Netlister supports flattened or hierarchical netlist, handles slotting and global net names. Will be glad to hear any feedback. The source located in: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ynetlist/files/ I will have a closer look at it later. Thanks. I'm a bit puzzled that all of you tend to choose C/C++ for implementing your tools. Netlisters are expected to be extendable by their end users but such a low level implementation language together with a build environment is a significant obstacle to it. It is not a theoretical dispute - I've been trying to extend Anthony's spnet and I soon got tired of doing text processing in C. Please treat this as my private suggestion only: would you or Anthony consider rewriting your tool in Perl, Python or some other major scripting language? So far only gnetlist tries to employ some higher level language (guile) for processing the netlist but it suffers form other problems (guile itself is not very mature and gnetlist architecture is hardcoded in C, which is why it is so hard to add the hierarchy support to it). Regards, -r. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Yet another netlister
Dear gEDA community members, I created yet another netlister for gschem. Netlister supports flattened or hierarchical netlist, handles slotting and global net names. Will be glad to hear any feedback. The source located in: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ynetlist/files/ Thanks, Alex. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister
Actually there is option for ynetlist -g{pcb,spice}. I do output for
PCB, but it is a very first cut. I do not know output format that I have
to use. Try this option, type
ynetlist -gpcb filename.sch
Then send me comments and I will correct output to be the right one.
Please let me know tool that you are going to use with pcb format, may
be I will be able to dig from that side to find what I have to put into
output file.
Alex.
On 07/31/2009 02:46 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:49:57 -0700, A.Burinskiy wrote:
I created yet another netlister for gschem. Netlister supports flattened
or hierarchical netlist, handles slotting and global net names. Will be
glad to hear any feedback. The source located in:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ynetlist/files/
The README seems to imply, that this netlisters primary use is to provide
input for gnucap. Are there plans to output pcb format, too?
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Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister
Actually only one: gnetlist could be found from gEDA site. All others have to be tested and if it suits purpose offered for download from gEDA site. On 07/31/2009 03:45 PM, Anthony Shanks wrote: Wow another netlister, that makes 4 now? gnetlist spnet gnetman ynetlist At least gEDA users have plenty of choices now. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:49 PM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear gEDA community members, I created yet another netlister for gschem. Netlister supports flattened or hierarchical netlist, handles slotting and global net names. Will be glad to hear any feedback. The source located in: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ynetlist/files/ Thanks, Alex. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister
Dan, No doubt, we need someone to identify week and strong parts of various netlisters and choose one-two for support. As to me, I was trying gnetlist and spnet (I was unaware of gnetman). Non of them did worked fine for me. That was a reason I wrote netlister for myself, then consider that it will be good to offer it for community. Yes, it will be pain if gschem format will be changed. And one good change is adding reference to library for instantiated symbols. It will stick each project to a particular list of libraries, as it is done in commercial CAD tools. Thanks, Alex. On 07/31/2009 04:42 PM, Dan McMahill wrote: A.Burinskiy wrote: Dear gEDA community members, I created yet another netlister for gschem. Netlister supports flattened or hierarchical netlist, handles slotting and global net names. Will be glad to hear any feedback. The source located in: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ynetlist/files/ I hate to complain when someone is contributing something which may be useful, but I have to wonder if netlister efforts could be better spent in fixing the various issues people have with gnetlist instead of inventing many more netlisters Here is my concern. The gEDA community isn't all that large and there are fairly limited resources for it. Having multiple netlisters seems to just produce the problem of too many places for identical bugs to creep in and spreading people too thin. Is there anyone who has tried all 4 netlisters and would be in a position to maybe make a table that somehow gives a sane comparison between the 4? That might be a useful way to help identify areas in each that need work. Oh, lets not even think about how much work is caused if gschem needs to update its file format and there are N different parsers out there. -Dan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: spNet v0.9.2 released
John, Could you please explain in detail, what does your comment mean? /* Note that there was never any serious difficulty doing this with gnetlist -g spice-sdb and a makefile. */ Thanks, Alex. On 06/30/2009 11:48 AM, John P. Doty wrote: Anthony Shanks wrote: http://spnet.code-fusion.net More of a beta/trial release, but I've done considerable testing with both my symbol libraries and the default gEDA libraries and everything for the most part seems smooth. For those of you who aren't familar with spNet, it's a spice netlister for gEDA that can netlist hierarchical schematics using the spice .subckt directive (which are easier to read and simulate faster). Note that there was never any serious difficulty doing this with gnetlist -g spice-sdb and a makefile. It also has many more features detailed in the documentation (up to date now on the homepage). If anybody has any questions or any issues with spNet let me know. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
error will come up with there is a symbol in your schematic without a valid device attribute. Here is a list of devices that are current supported (device=) RESISTOR CAPACITOR INDUCTOR NPN_TRANSISTOR PNP_TRANSISTOR NMOS3T NMOS4T PMOS3T PMOS3T SUBCKT VOLTAGE_SOURCE CURRENT_SOURCE PIN As stated I will add suport for [N|P]MOS_TRANSISTOR in the next release as a 4 terminal mosfet device. Besides this, do you have any components in your schematic that is not on the above list? BTW, thanks for all your help in debugging. -Anthony On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:12 AM, A.Burinskiy[1]alexb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, Yes, the cause of segfault are empty strings at the end of file. Do you support comment out in .spnetlibs? I will go ahead and try your new code. Thanks, Alex On 06/23/2009 03:03 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote: Wow. I guess I have a lot to learn as far as releasing code and compiling versions go because it works fine on my end with gcc 4.3. Sorry this is the first time I've released code (this big), please bare with me. I tried one lib in spnetlibs with your line exactly and it works fine without a segfault. Can you attach your spnetlibs to ensure I'm 100% using exactly? One thing I did notice though is that if the file exists but is empty it does segfault. I just fixed this error and reuploaded it but I think it may go back to giving you the invalid lib error (you can redownload it from the same link). Are you sure there are not blank lines or anything in your file? Also about number 1 and number 2 thoughts. That plan was already in the works for the official release. Most of the symbols from gschem work with spnet except the mosfets since geda does not have a 3 terminal symbol. I plan on making [N,P]MOS_TRANSISTOR work for 4 terminal devices. Also I plan for spnet to read the libraries already defined in the gEDA rc files. This will also be done in the next release. I'll try to get a version that does this by the end of the week however. Let me know how it goes after you try the newest update. -Anthony ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-u...@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:alexb...@gmail.com 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
that are current supported (device=) RESISTOR CAPACITOR INDUCTOR NPN_TRANSISTOR PNP_TRANSISTOR NMOS3T NMOS4T PMOS3T PMOS3T SUBCKT VOLTAGE_SOURCE CURRENT_SOURCE PIN As stated I will add suport for [N|P]MOS_TRANSISTOR in the next release as a 4 terminal mosfet device. Besides this, do you have any components in your schematic that is not on the above list? BTW, thanks for all your help in debugging. -Anthony On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:12 AM, A.Burinskiy[1]alexb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, Yes, the cause of segfault are empty strings at the end of file. Do you support comment out in .spnetlibs? I will go ahead and try your new code. Thanks, Alex On 06/23/2009 03:03 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote: Wow. I guess I have a lot to learn as far as releasing code and compiling versions go because it works fine on my end with gcc 4.3. Sorry this is the first time I've released code (this big), please bare with me. I tried one lib in spnetlibs with your line exactly and it works fine without a segfault. Can you attach your spnetlibs to ensure I'm 100% using exactly? One thing I did notice though is that if the file exists but is empty it does segfault. I just fixed this error and reuploaded it but I think it may go back to giving you the invalid lib error (you can redownload it from the same link). Are you sure there are not blank lines or anything in your file? Also about number 1 and number 2 thoughts. That plan was already in the works for the official release. Most of the symbols from gschem work with spnet except the mosfets since geda does not have a 3 terminal symbol. I plan on making [N,P]MOS_TRANSISTOR work for 4 terminal devices. Also I plan for spnet to read the libraries already defined in the gEDA rc files. This will also be done in the next release. I'll try to get a version that does this by the end of the week however. Let me know how it goes after you try the newest update. -Anthony ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-u...@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:alexb...@gmail.com 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user attachment: prntscm.png ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
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are not supported yet, it's on the todo list. Is the new code working yet? the invalid compoent error will come up with there is a symbol in your schematic without a valid device attribute. Here is a list of devices that are current supported (device=) RESISTOR CAPACITOR INDUCTOR NPN_TRANSISTOR PNP_TRANSISTOR NMOS3T NMOS4T PMOS3T PMOS3T SUBCKT VOLTAGE_SOURCE CURRENT_SOURCE PIN As stated I will add suport for [N|P]MOS_TRANSISTOR in the next release as a 4 terminal mosfet device. Besides this, do you have any components in your schematic that is not on the above list? BTW, thanks for all your help in debugging. -Anthony On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:12 AM, A.Burinskiy[1]alexb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, Yes, the cause of segfault are empty strings at the end of file. Do you support comment out in .spnetlibs? I will go ahead and try your new code. Thanks, Alex On 06/23/2009 03:03 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote: Wow. I guess I have a lot to learn as far as releasing code and compiling versions go because it works fine on my end with gcc 4.3. Sorry this is the first time I've released code (this big), please bare with me. I tried one lib in spnetlibs with your line exactly and it works fine without a segfault. Can you attach your spnetlibs to ensure I'm 100% using exactly? One thing I did notice though is that if the file exists but is empty it does segfault. I just fixed this error and reuploaded it but I think it may go back to giving you the invalid lib error (you can redownload it from the same link). Are you sure there are not blank lines or anything in your file? Also about number 1 and number 2 thoughts. That plan was already in the works for the official release. Most of the symbols from gschem work with spnet except the mosfets since geda does not have a 3 terminal symbol. I plan on making [N,P]MOS_TRANSISTOR work for 4 terminal devices. Also I plan for spnet to read the libraries already defined in the gEDA rc files. This will also be done in the next release. I'll try to get a version that does this by the end of the week however. Let me know how it goes after you try the newest update. -Anthony ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-u...@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:alexb...@gmail.com 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
NMOS3T NMOS4T PMOS3T PMOS3T SUBCKT VOLTAGE_SOURCE CURRENT_SOURCE PIN As stated I will add suport for [N|P]MOS_TRANSISTOR in the next release as a 4 terminal mosfet device. Besides this, do you have any components in your schematic that is not on the above list? BTW, thanks for all your help in debugging. -Anthony On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:12 AM, A.Burinskiy[1]alexb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, Yes, the cause of segfault are empty strings at the end of file. Do you support comment out in .spnetlibs? I will go ahead and try your new code. Thanks, Alex On 06/23/2009 03:03 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote: Wow. I guess I have a lot to learn as far as releasing code and compiling versions go because it works fine on my end with gcc 4.3. Sorry this is the first time I've released code (this big), please bare with me. I tried one lib in spnetlibs with your line exactly and it works fine without a segfault. Can you attach your spnetlibs to ensure I'm 100% using exactly? One thing I did notice though is that if the file exists but is empty it does segfault. I just fixed this error and reuploaded it but I think it may go back to giving you the invalid lib error (you can redownload it from the same link). Are you sure there are not blank lines or anything in your file? Also about number 1 and number 2 thoughts. That plan was already in the works for the official release. Most of the symbols from gschem work with spnet except the mosfets since geda does not have a 3 terminal symbol. I plan on making [N,P]MOS_TRANSISTOR work for 4 terminal devices. Also I plan for spnet to read the libraries already defined in the gEDA rc files. This will also be done in the next release. I'll try to get a version that does this by the end of the week however. Let me know how it goes after you try the newest update. -Anthony ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-u...@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:alexb...@gmail.com 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
Anthony, The problem is that if empty strings exists at the end of file it cause segmentation fault. When I delete all empty strings, I've got: $ ./spnet ~/geda/if.sch spNet v0.9.1.2 gEDA/gschem Netlister Copyright 2009 Anthony Shanks -I- Starting Build of Cell: if -I- Adding Library: sym -I- Adding Library: 4000 -I- Adding Library: altera -I- Adding Library: apex -I- Adding Library: bus -I- Adding Library: dec -I- Adding Library: font -I- Adding Library: IEC417 -I- Adding Library: lattice -I- Adding Library: maxim -I- Adding Library: minicircuits -I- Adding Library: opto -I- Adding Library: power -I- Adding Library: rf -I- Adding Library: supervisor -I- Adding Library: titleblock -I- Adding Library: verilog -I- Adding Library: 74 -I- Adding Library: amphenol -I- Adding Library: asic -I- Adding Library: cascade -I- Adding Library: diod -I- Adding Library: gnetman -I- Adding Library: io -I- Adding Library: linear -I- Adding Library: memory -I- Adding Library: misc -I- Adding Library: philips -I- Adding Library: radio -I- Adding Library: spice -I- Adding Library: switcap -I- Adding Library: transistor -I- Adding Library: vhdl -I- Adding Library: allegro -I- Adding Library: analog -I- Adding Library: asicpads -I- Adding Library: connector -I- Adding Library: ecl -I- Adding Library: idt -I- Adding Library: irf -I- Adding Library: local -I- Adding Library: micro -I- Adding Library: national -I- Adding Library: pla -I- Adding Library: relay -I- Adding Library: st -I- Adding Library: switch -I- Adding Library: tube -I- Adding Library: xilinx -I- Combining Cells -E- Fatal Error: Invalid Component. Thanks, Alex. On 06/23/2009 01:10 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote: Thats really odd, I copied your line directly in my spnetlibs file and it worked fine. Maybe it's a gcc 4.4 issue? I really need to switch to gcc4.4 since is is catching stuff that gcc4.3 isn't (if this infact is the case). I updated spNet with some different code to retrieve the libs which is a little cleaner (I worte this function a long time ago and haven't looked at it since) and uploaded it to the site (same version). Please re-download it and recompile it and let me know if it still give you this error. -Anthony On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:05 PM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, Thanks a lot, now spNet compiles well. When I run it I have following error: $ spnet if.sch spNet v0.9.1 gEDA/gschem Netlister Copyright 2009 Anthony Shanks -E- Invalid lib file. Syntax: library: PATH LibName [al...@bazilik buck1]$ more ~/.spnetlibs library: /home/username/tsmc sym ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Alexander Burinskiy IC design San Jose, CA, 95129 (408)230-3458 (cell) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
Hi Anthony, Yes, the cause of segfault are empty strings at the end of file. Do you support comment out in .spnetlibs? I will go ahead and try your new code. Thanks, Alex On 06/23/2009 03:03 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote: Wow. I guess I have a lot to learn as far as releasing code and compiling versions go because it works fine on my end with gcc 4.3. Sorry this is the first time I've released code (this big), please bare with me. I tried one lib in spnetlibs with your line exactly and it works fine without a segfault. Can you attach your spnetlibs to ensure I'm 100% using exactly? One thing I did notice though is that if the file exists but is empty it does segfault. I just fixed this error and reuploaded it but I think it may go back to giving you the invalid lib error (you can redownload it from the same link). Are you sure there are not blank lines or anything in your file? Also about number 1 and number 2 thoughts. That plan was already in the works for the official release. Most of the symbols from gschem work with spnet except the mosfets since geda does not have a 3 terminal symbol. I plan on making [N,P]MOS_TRANSISTOR work for 4 terminal devices. Also I plan for spnet to read the libraries already defined in the gEDA rc files. This will also be done in the next release. I'll try to get a version that does this by the end of the week however. Let me know how it goes after you try the newest update. -Anthony ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
Hi Anthony,
Yes, there is device that is not in the list and this is ground symbol.
Please find diff file and test_v2i.sch attached. That is what I have
(Please note, that your search for '=' sign, while there is no any '='
sign in the string...)
$ spnet test_v2i.sch
spNet v0.9.1.2
gEDA/gschem Netlister
Copyright 2009 Anthony Shanks
-I- Starting Build of Cell: test_v2i
-I- Adding Library: sym
-I- Adding Library: power
-I- Combining Cells
-E- Fatal Error: Invalid Component attr C 42200 44200 1 0 0 gnd-1.sym.
$ more ~/.spnetlibs
library: /home/username/tsmc sym
library: /usr/local/share/gEDA/sym power
On 06/23/2009 09:39 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote:
Comments are not supported yet, it's on the todo list.
Is the new code working yet? the invalid compoent error will come up
with there is a symbol in your schematic without a valid device
attribute. Here is a list of devices that are current supported
(device=)
RESISTOR
CAPACITOR
INDUCTOR
NPN_TRANSISTOR
PNP_TRANSISTOR
NMOS3T
NMOS4T
PMOS3T
PMOS3T
SUBCKT
VOLTAGE_SOURCE
CURRENT_SOURCE
PIN
As stated I will add suport for [N|P]MOS_TRANSISTOR in the next
release as a 4 terminal mosfet device. Besides this, do you have any
components in your schematic that is not on the above list?
BTW, thanks for all your help in debugging.
-Anthony
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:12 AM, A.Burinskiy[1]alexb...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Anthony,
Yes, the cause of segfault are empty strings at the end of file. Do
you
support comment out in .spnetlibs? I will go ahead and try your new
code.
Thanks,
Alex
On 06/23/2009 03:03 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote:
Wow. I guess I have a lot to learn as far as releasing code and
compiling versions go because it works fine on my end with gcc 4.3.
Sorry this is the first time I've released code (this big), please
bare with me.
I tried one lib in spnetlibs with your line exactly and it works
fine
without a segfault. Can you attach your spnetlibs to ensure I'm 100%
using exactly? One thing I did notice though is that if the file
exists but is empty it does segfault. I just fixed this error and
reuploaded it but I think it may go back to giving you the invalid
lib
error (you can redownload it from the same link). Are you sure there
are not blank lines or anything in your file?
Also about number 1 and number 2 thoughts. That plan was already in
the works for the official release. Most of the symbols from gschem
work with spnet except the mosfets since geda does not have a 3
terminal symbol. I plan on making [N,P]MOS_TRANSISTOR work for 4
terminal devices. Also I plan for spnet to read the libraries
already
defined in the gEDA rc files. This will also be done in the next
release. I'll try to get a version that does this by the end of the
week however.
Let me know how it goes after you try the newest update.
-Anthony
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--- ../spnet-0.9.1.2/src/netlist.c 2009-06-23 02:59:13.0 -0700
+++ src/netlist.c 2009-06-23 09:25:45.140068435 -0700
@@ -307,7 +307,7 @@
}
// Mosfet
- else if(strcmp(devices-device,NMOS3T) == 0 ||
strcmp(devices-device,PMOS3T) == 0 || strcmp(devices-device,NMOS4T) == 0
|| strcmp(devices-device,PMOS4T) == 0)
+ else if(strcmp(devices-device,NMOS3T) == 0 ||
strcmp(devices-device,PMOS3T) == 0 || strcmp(devices-device,NMOS4T) == 0
|| strcmp(devices-device,PMOS4T) == 0 ||
strcmp(devices-device,PMOS_TRANSISTOR) == 0 ||
strcmp(devices-device,NMOS_TRANSISTOR) == 0 )
{
// Get pininfo
pininfo =
GrabPins(devices-filename,devices-rotate,devices-x,devices-y,devices-inverted,libs);
@@ -644,13 +644,13 @@
explist = explode(str,' ');
if(explist == NULL)
{
- printf(\n-E- Fatal Error: Invalid Component.\n\n);
+ printf(\n-E- Fatal Error: Invalid Component. Empty
explist\n\n);
exit(1);
}
explist = explist-next;
if(explist == NULL)
{
- printf(\n-E- Fatal Error: Invalid Component.\n\n);
+ printf(\n
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
Hi Anthony,
The reason for the message
-E- Fatal Error: Invalid Component attr C 42200 44200 1 0 0 gnd-1.sym
Was that first component, that is title-B block listed in the
test_v2i_2.sch without pair of { } !
Symbol spice-lib.sym is a special symbol. I did it. I think netlister
should support custom symbols.
v 20090328 2
B 0 400 1900 300 3 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
T 100 300 9 10 0 1 0 0 1
device=library
T 100 500 9 10 1 1 0 0 1
refdes=A?
T 600 500 9 10 1 0 0 0 1
SPICE LIBR
T 500 200 8 10 1 1 0 0 1
file=?
T 100 200 9 10 1 0 0 0 1
File:
T 0 -5 8 10 1 0 0 0 1
corner=TYP
And v2i_2v.sym is real subcircuit.
After artificially adding this braces I've got (please note, that
(42300;44500) corresponds to connection point of gnd symbol pin)
$ spnet test_v2i.sch
spNet v0.9.1.2
gEDA/gschem Netlister
Copyright 2009 Anthony Shanks
-I- Starting Build of Cell: test_v2i
-I- Adding Library: sym
-I- Adding Library: power
-I- Combining Cells
-W- Device in cell test_v2i does not have a refdes, ignoring.
-W- Device in cell test_v2i does not have a refdes, ignoring.
-E- Net stitch failure in cell test_v2i near point 42300,44500.
Thanks,
Alex.
On 06/23/2009 10:54 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote:
Hmm, a few things.
Is that ground symbol the default that comes with gschem (device=none,
netname=0)? Can't look right now, at work.
I also noticed a few things in your schematic that is definitely not
supported (right now):
C 47000 49500 1 0 0 spice-lib.sym
C 5 44900 1 0 0 v2i_2v.sym
What are these? I assume the spice-lib.sym is a subckt netlist but I
don't know what the other is.
A quick fix in your case with the ground symbol is just to add the
attribute device=globalnode and net=0.
-Anthony
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Anthony,
Yes, there is device that is not in the list and this is ground symbol.
Please find diff file and test_v2i.sch attached. That is what I have (Please
note, that your search for '=' sign, while there is no any '=' sign in the
string...)
$ spnet test_v2i.sch
spNet v0.9.1.2
gEDA/gschem Netlister
Copyright 2009 Anthony Shanks
-I- Starting Build of Cell: test_v2i
-I- Adding Library: sym
-I- Adding Library: power
-I- Combining Cells
-E- Fatal Error: Invalid Component attr C 42200 44200 1 0 0 gnd-1.sym.
$ more ~/.spnetlibs
library: /home/username/tsmc sym
library: /usr/local/share/gEDA/sym power
On 06/23/2009 09:39 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote:
Comments are not supported yet, it's on the todo list.
Is the new code working yet? the invalid compoent error will come up
with there is a symbol in your schematic without a valid device
attribute. Here is a list of devices that are current supported
(device=)
RESISTOR
CAPACITOR
INDUCTOR
NPN_TRANSISTOR
PNP_TRANSISTOR
NMOS3T
NMOS4T
PMOS3T
PMOS3T
SUBCKT
VOLTAGE_SOURCE
CURRENT_SOURCE
PIN
As stated I will add suport for [N|P]MOS_TRANSISTOR in the next
release as a 4 terminal mosfet device. Besides this, do you have any
components in your schematic that is not on the above list?
BTW, thanks for all your help in debugging.
-Anthony
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:12 AM, A.Burinskiy[1]alexb...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Anthony,
Yes, the cause of segfault are empty strings at the end of file. Do
you
support comment out in .spnetlibs? I will go ahead and try your new
code.
Thanks,
Alex
On 06/23/2009 03:03 AM, Anthony Shanks wrote:
Wow. I guess I have a lot to learn as far as releasing code and
compiling versions go because it works fine on my end with gcc 4.3.
Sorry this is the first time I've released code (this big), please
bare with me.
I tried one lib in spnetlibs with your line exactly and it works
fine
without a segfault. Can you attach your spnetlibs to ensure I'm
100%
using exactly? One thing I did notice though is that if the file
exists but is empty it does segfault. I just fixed this error and
reuploaded it but I think it may go back to giving you the invalid
lib
error (you can redownload it from the same link). Are you sure
there
are not blank lines or anything in your file?
Also about number 1 and number 2 thoughts. That plan was already in
the works for the official release. Most of the symbols from gschem
work with spnet except the mosfets since geda does not have a 3
terminal symbol. I plan on making [N,P]MOS_TRANSISTOR work for 4
terminal devices. Also I plan for spnet to read the libraries
already
defined in the gEDA rc files. This will also be done in the next
release. I'll try to get a version that does this by the end of the
week however.
Let me
gEDA-user: gnetlist: netlister doesn't extract subcircuits as a subcircuit but correct refdes
Hi, I'm using gnetlist -g spice-sdb ... 1. Netlister doesn't exctract subcircuits as a subcircuits, but correct refdes instead. It puts, for example MX1/M23 instead of .subckt ... M23 .ends X1 2. netlister also doesn't correct Resistors. It is supposed that refdes will be corrected as RX1/R3, but gnetlist produces X1/R3 3. ngspice doesn't recognise MX1/M23 - it get confused with model name and treat it as a node. MX1_M23 fixes the problem, but keeping subckt sounds more reasonable against flattening netlist. Is any way to correct gnet_spice-sdb to get list subckt as a subckt? I try CVS version and 1.5.2 with the same bad results. Thanks, Alex. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
Hi Anthony, Thank you very much for the spNet. I'm trying to compile your tool. The result is below: $ make Making all in src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/alexb/Download/geda/spnet/spnet-0.9.1/src' gcc -DPACKAGE_NAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\\ -DPACKAGE_STRING=\\ -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\\ -DPACKAGE=\spnet\ -DVERSION=\0.8\ -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_MALLOC=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_REALLOC=1 -DHAVE_STRFTIME=1 -DHAVE_STRCHR=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DHAVE_STRRCHR=1 -DHAVE_STRSTR=1 -I. -I../include -Wall -g -O2 -MT io.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/io.Tpo -c -o io.o io.c In file included from io.c:15: ../include/str.h:14: error: conflicting types for ‘getline’ /usr/include/stdio.h:653: note: previous declaration of ‘getline’ was here make[1]: *** [io.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/alexb/Download/geda/spnet/spnet-0.9.1/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Could you please give a hint what is wrong? I'm using F11, x86_64. Thanks, Alex. On 06/22/2009 03:33 PM, Anthony Shanks wrote: What is your end goal here? Just to have hierarchical schematics or do be able to produce a hierarchical netlist? IMHO hierarchical schematics in gschem work perfectly fine, it's netlisting them that as of right now is very hackery/broken which is why I started a new netlister spNet. You can download the latest version here http://spnet.code-fusion.net but be warned the documentation is very shotty/inaccurate since I haven't officially released it yet. Refer to my last post on this list for more details. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Christoph Lechnercl0...@l-mx.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm just trying around with hierarchy. This is my first hierarchy design, and some questions remained open. I used the gTAG example as a starting point. What symbols do you use to 'declare' the pins in the subcircuit? I used the in-1.sym and out-1.sym, but using the refdes for the pin identifier looks like a hack to me. Is the used of these two symbols still state of the art or are there better ways to follow? So when renumbering the parts in the file, refdes_renum attaches a 1 suffix to all the refdes attributes of the in-1 and out-1 symbols on the sheet, which is just a mess. Some Perl warnings pop up on the command line, BTW. What can I do to fix it? I run the outdated gEDA suite 1.4.0, but I md5-verified that in-1.sym, out-1.sym and refdes_renum are the same in the newest 1.4.3 release. CU - - Christoph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKPK5TWo2QgtqY4K8RAti1AJ0RMEC0h2rsUvEKnXhVL+ebRrZtMgCggxiP OZN6KKI5RRXeZz9sXfMpPKM= =4tCj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
Hi Anthony, Please find config.log attached. Thanks, Alex. On 06/22/2009 04:03 PM, Anthony Shanks wrote: Odd, I thought I did a configure/make/make install before I released to to make sure it compiles platform independent. What did you configure line look like and can you email me your config.log? I'll get back to you in a few hours since I'm still at work. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, Thank you very much for the spNet. I'm trying to compile your tool. The result is below: $ make Making all in src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/alexb/Download/geda/spnet/spnet-0.9.1/src' gcc -DPACKAGE_NAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\\ -DPACKAGE_STRING=\\ -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\\ -DPACKAGE=\spnet\ -DVERSION=\0.8\ -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_MALLOC=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_REALLOC=1 -DHAVE_STRFTIME=1 -DHAVE_STRCHR=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DHAVE_STRRCHR=1 -DHAVE_STRSTR=1 -I. -I../include -Wall -g -O2 -MT io.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/io.Tpo -c -o io.o io.c In file included from io.c:15: ../include/str.h:14: error: conflicting types for ‘getline’ /usr/include/stdio.h:653: note: previous declaration of ‘getline’ was here make[1]: *** [io.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/alexb/Download/geda/spnet/spnet-0.9.1/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Could you please give a hint what is wrong? I'm using F11, x86_64. Thanks, Alex. On 06/22/2009 03:33 PM, Anthony Shanks wrote: What is your end goal here? Just to have hierarchical schematics or do be able to produce a hierarchical netlist? IMHO hierarchical schematics in gschem work perfectly fine, it's netlisting them that as of right now is very hackery/broken which is why I started a new netlister spNet. You can download the latest version here http://spnet.code-fusion.net but be warned the documentation is very shotty/inaccurate since I haven't officially released it yet. Refer to my last post on this list for more details. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Christoph Lechnercl0...@l-mx.dewrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm just trying around with hierarchy. This is my first hierarchy design, and some questions remained open. I used the gTAG example as a starting point. What symbols do you use to 'declare' the pins in the subcircuit? I used the in-1.sym and out-1.sym, but using the refdes for the pin identifier looks like a hack to me. Is the used of these two symbols still state of the art or are there better ways to follow? So when renumbering the parts in the file, refdes_renum attaches a 1 suffix to all the refdes attributes of the in-1 and out-1 symbols on the sheet, which is just a mess. Some Perl warnings pop up on the command line, BTW. What can I do to fix it? I run the outdated gEDA suite 1.4.0, but I md5-verified that in-1.sym, out-1.sym and refdes_renum are the same in the newest 1.4.3 release. CU - - Christoph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKPK5TWo2QgtqY4K8RAti1AJ0RMEC0h2rsUvEKnXhVL+ebRrZtMgCggxiP OZN6KKI5RRXeZz9sXfMpPKM= =4tCj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. It was created by configure, which was generated by GNU Autoconf 2.61. Invocation command line was $ ./configure ## - ## ## Platform. ## ## - ## hostname = bazilik uname -m = x86_64 uname -r = 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64 uname -s = Linux uname -v = #1 SMP Wed May 27 17:27:08 EDT 2009 /usr/bin/uname -p = unknown /bin/uname -X = unknown /bin/arch = x86_64 /usr/bin/arch -k = unknown /usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown /usr/bin/hostinfo = unknown /bin/machine = unknown /usr/bin/oslevel = unknown /bin/universe = unknown PATH: /usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin PATH: /usr/kerberos/bin PATH: /usr/lib64/ccache PATH: /usr/local/bin PATH: /usr/bin PATH: /bin PATH: /usr/local/sbin PATH: /usr/sbin PATH: /sbin PATH: /home/username/bin PATH:
Re: gEDA-user: hierarchy and refdes_renum
Hi Anthony, Thanks a lot, now spNet compiles well. When I run it I have following error: $ spnet if.sch spNet v0.9.1 gEDA/gschem Netlister Copyright 2009 Anthony Shanks -E- Invalid lib file. Syntax: library: PATH LibName [al...@bazilik buck1]$ more ~/.spnetlibs library: /home/username/tsmc sym ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Try to add component
Hi Stuart, Thank you very much for the instructions. Following your instruction I produced next patch and new symbol. Thanks, Alex. --- geda-gnetlist-1.5.2/scheme/gnet-spice-sdb.scm2009-06-11 04:42:06.063911837 -0700 +++ geda-gnetlist/scheme/gnet-spice-sdb.scm2009-06-17 17:28:10.236009806 -0700 @@ -1425,6 +1425,38 @@ ))) ;;-- +;; Include a file using an .LIB directive +;;-- +(define spice-sdb:write-library + (lambda (package port) +(debug-spew (string-append Found SPICE .LIB box. Refdes = package \n)) +(let ((corner (gnetlist:get-package-attribute package corner)) + (file (gnetlist:get-package-attribute package file)) + ) ;; end of local assignments + (debug-spew (string-appendcorner = corner \n)) + (debug-spew (string-appendfile = file \n)) + (display (string-append .LIB file corner \n) port) + (debug-spew placing .lib directive string into netlist.\n)) + + ) +) + +;;-- +;; Include a simulation directive +;;-- +(define spice-sdb:write-simulation + (lambda (package port) +(debug-spew (string-append Found SPICE Simulation box. Refdes = package \n)) +(let ((value (gnetlist:get-package-attribute package value)) + ) ;; end of local assignments + (debug-spew (string-append value= value \n)) + (display (string-append value \n) port) + (debug-spew placing simulation directive string into netlist.\n)) + + ) +) + +;;-- ;; Include an option using an .OPTIONS directive ;;-- (define spice-sdb:write-options @@ -1617,6 +1649,10 @@ (spice-sdb:write-directive package port)) ( (string=? device include) (spice-sdb:write-include package port)) + ( (string=? device library) + (spice-sdb:write-library package port)) + ( (string=? device simulation) + (spice-sdb:write-simulation package port)) ( else (spice-sdb:write-default-component package file-info-list port)) ) ;; end of cond *8 v 20090328 2 B 0 400 1900 300 3 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 T 100 300 9 10 0 1 0 0 1 device=library T 100 500 9 10 1 1 0 0 1 refdes=A? T 600 500 9 10 1 0 0 0 1 SPICE LIBR T 500 200 8 10 1 1 0 0 1 file=? T 100 200 9 10 1 0 0 0 1 File: T 0 -5 8 10 1 0 0 0 1 corner=? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: ngspice:try to add vc1, vc2 to res model.
Please find patch file attached. I'm trying to add vc1,2 to res model. Notation R1 2 1 w=10u l=100u vc1=7e-5 vc2=1e-3 But .model rmod ( + VC1=7e-5 + VC2=1e-3 + ) R1 2 1 rmod w=10u l=100u vc1=7e-5 vc2=1e-3 Doesn't work. What I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Alex. Common subdirectories: ngspice-original/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/CVS and ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/CVS Only in ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/: .deps Only in ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/: Makefile Only in ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/: Makefile.in diff -u ngspice-original/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/resask.c ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/resask.c --- ngspice-original/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/resask.c 2009-06-14 12:37:52.578562944 -0700 +++ ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/resask.c 2009-06-14 12:49:48.653551529 -0700 @@ -64,12 +64,18 @@ case RES_M: value-rValue = fast-RESm; return(OK); - case RES_TC1: - value-rValue = fast-REStc1; - return(OK); - case RES_TC2: - value-rValue = fast-REStc2; - return(OK); + case RES_TC1: + value-rValue = fast-REStc1; + return(OK); + case RES_TC2: + value-rValue = fast-REStc2; + return(OK); + case RES_VC1: + value-rValue = fast-RESvc1; + return(OK); + case RES_VC2: + value-rValue = fast-RESvc2; + return(OK); case RES_NOISY: value-iValue = fast-RESnoisy; return(OK); diff -u ngspice-original/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/res.c ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/res.c --- ngspice-original/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/res.c 2009-06-14 12:37:52.559563322 -0700 +++ ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/res.c 2009-06-14 14:54:01.025553126 -0700 @@ -22,6 +22,9 @@ IOPU( tc, RES_TC1, IF_REAL,First order temp. coefficient), IOPU( tc1, RES_TC1, IF_REAL,First order temp. coefficient), IOPU( tc2, RES_TC2, IF_REAL,Second order temp. coefficient), + IOPU( vc, RES_VC1, IF_REAL,First order volt. coefficient), + IOPU( vc1, RES_VC1, IF_REAL,First order volt. coefficient), + IOPU( vc2, RES_VC2, IF_REAL,Second order volt. coefficient), IOPU( scale, RES_SCALE, IF_REAL,Scale factor), IOP( noisy,RES_NOISY, IF_INTEGER, Resistor generate noise), IP(sens_resist, RES_RESIST_SENS, IF_FLAG, @@ -46,6 +49,8 @@ IOPR( dlr,RES_MOD_SHORT,IF_REAL,Shortening of resistor), IOPQ( tc1,RES_MOD_TC1, IF_REAL,First order temp. coefficient), IOPQO( tc2,RES_MOD_TC2, IF_REAL,Second order temp. coefficient), + IOPQ( vc1,RES_MOD_VC1, IF_REAL,First order volt. coefficient), + IOPQO( vc2,RES_MOD_VC2, IF_REAL,Second order volt. coefficient), IOPX( defw, RES_MOD_DEFWIDTH, IF_REAL,Default device width), IOPR( w, RES_MOD_DEFWIDTH, IF_REAL,Default device width), IOPQ( kf, RES_MOD_KF, IF_REAL,Flicker noise coefficient), diff -u ngspice-original/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/resdefs.h ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/resdefs.h --- ngspice-original/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/resdefs.h 2009-06-14 12:37:52.579552456 -0700 +++ ngspice/ng-spice-rework/src/spicelib/devices/res/resdefs.h 2009-06-14 15:12:25.114801141 -0700 @@ -43,6 +43,10 @@ double RESm;/* Multiplicity factor for this instance */ double REStc1; /* first temperature coefficient of resistors */ double REStc2; /* second temperature coefficient of resistors */ +/* alx begin */ +double RESvc1; /* first voltage coefficient of resistors */ +double RESvc2; /* second voltage coefficient of resistors */ +/* alx end */ intRESnoisy;/* Set if the resistor generates noise */ double *RESposPosptr; /* pointer to sparse matrix diagonal at * (positive,positive) */ @@ -63,6 +67,10 @@ unsigned RESmGiven : 1;/* indicates M parameter specified */ unsigned REStc1Given: 1;/* indicates tc1 parameter specified */ unsigned REStc2Given: 1;/* indicates tc2 parameter specified */ +/* alx begin */ +unsigned RESvc1Given: 1;/* indicates vc1 parameter specified */ +unsigned RESvc2Given: 1;/* indicates vc2 parameter specified */ +/* alx end */ unsigned RESnoisyGiven : 1;/* indicates if noisy is specified */ intRESsenParmNo;/* parameter # for sensitivity use;
gEDA-user: ngspice: command file cause run out of memory
I wrote simple command file: $more com source rtest3.cir run plot v(1,2)/i(v1) save $ ngspice -b com Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Circuit: source rtest3.cir ^C $ when I run command file, ngspice quickly eat all memory and become uncontrollable! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: ngspice: res model parameter RSH
Hi, In the manual parameter RSH declared, but in reality doesn't work. $ more rtest2.cir * Spice netlister for gnetlist V2 1 0 DC 1.5V V1 2 0 DC 0.5V R1 2 1 rsh=1K w=100u l=10u tc1=3e-3 tc2=5e-7 narrow=0.05u .dc temp -40 125 1 .print dc i(v1) .END [al...@bazilik geda]$ ngspice rtest2.cir Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes ** ** ngspice-19 : Circuit level simulation program ** The U. C. Berkeley CAD Group ** Copyright 1985-1994, Regents of the University of California. ** Please submit bug-reports to: ngspice-b...@lists.sourceforge.net ** Creation Date: Sun Jun 14 14:58:10 PDT 2009 ** Circuit: * spice netlister for gnetlist Error on line 5 : r1 2 1 rsh=1k w=100u l=10u tc1=3e-3 tc2=5e-7 narrow=0.05u unknown parameter (rsh) ngspice 1 - ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: ngspice: potantialy memory problem
Whatever I'm doing in ngspice, I've get warnings about memory $ more rtest2.cir * Spice netlister for gnetlist V2 1 0 DC 1.5V V1 2 0 DC 0.5V R1 2 1 rsh=1K w=100u l=10u tc1=3e-3 tc2=5e-7 narrow=0.05u .dc temp -40 125 1 .print dc i(v1) .END [al...@bazilik geda]$ ngspice rtest2.cir Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes Warning - approaching max data size: current size = 15.960 kB, limit = 0 bytes ** ** ngspice-19 : Circuit level simulation program ** The U. C. Berkeley CAD Group ** Copyright 1985-1994, Regents of the University of California. ** Please submit bug-reports to: ngspice-b...@lists.sourceforge.net ** Creation Date: Sun Jun 14 14:58:10 PDT 2009 ** Circuit: * spice netlister for gnetlist Error on line 5 : r1 2 1 rsh=1k w=100u l=10u tc1=3e-3 tc2=5e-7 narrow=0.05u unknown parameter (rsh) ngspice 1 - ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Try to add component
Hi, I'm trying to make library include symbol, somewhat similar to spice-include-1.sym. I created symbol: v 20090328 2 B 0 400 1900 300 3 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 T 100 300 9 10 0 1 0 0 1 device=library T 100 500 9 10 1 1 0 0 1 refdes=A? T 600 500 9 10 1 0 0 0 1 SPICE LIBR T 500 200 8 10 1 1 0 0 1 file=? T 100 200 9 10 1 0 0 0 1 File: T 0 -5 8 10 1 0 0 0 1 Corner=Typ And add a strings into gnet-spice-sdb.scm: ;;-- ;; Include a file using an .LIB directive ;;-- (define spice-sdb:write-library (lambda (package port) (debug-spew (string-append Found SPICE .LIB box. Refdes = package \n)) (let ((value (gnetlist:get-package-attribute package value)) (file (gnetlist:get-package-attribute package file)) ) ;; end of local assignments (debug-spew (string-appendvalue = value \n)) (debug-spew (string-appendfile = file \n)) (display (string-append .LIB value \n) port) (debug-spew placing .lib directive string into netlist.\n)) ) ) When I run gnetlist -v -g spice-gdb ., i've got: Now process the items in model file list -- stick appropriate references to models in output SPICE file. Handling spice model file modelcard.pmos Done processing items in model file list. Make second pass through design and write out a SPICE card for each component found. --- checking package = A5 device = library Found unknown component. Refdes = A5 What I'm doing wrong. Thanks, AB. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
