Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Steven Michalske [1]smichal...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Chris Maness wrote: Gschem does not seem to be in mac ports. I saw it listed as a fink package, but I don't like fink at all. sudo port install geda-gaf Cool, it works. Do you know how to find out who the port maintainers are? I would also like to bug the PCB port maintainer to get the PCB port to work right. Thanks, Chris References 1. mailto:smichal...@gmail.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:13 AM, DJ Delorie [1...@delorie.com wrote: The netlist looks like: netname refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin netname refdes-pin refdes-pin refdes-pin netname refdes-pin refdes-pin Sorry for what may be interpreted is a dumb question. What is a refdes-pin, and is there a utility for converting a regular _cleaned up_ (commands removed) spice netlist? Regards, Chris Maness References 1. mailto:d...@delorie.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?
SPICE has no understanding of pin numbers *at all*. Its abstractions are grounded in IC design where you have no pin numbers (at least internally). You'd have to provide a file mapping positional netlist connections to pin numbers. Another advantage of using a *flexible* schematic capture tool rather than a specialized one. In gschem you can specify both pin numbers (pinnumber= attribute) and pin position in a SPICE netlist (pinseq= attribute). I am starting to see the picture now, I am playing with gschem right now on my server. I do see that this is a better way to input if it is going to go to layout afterword, but yes you do pay the price up front to save time using a netlist to help with the PCB layout. It is a nightmare trying to check a complicated layout against a schematic, just praying that you aren't missing anything. I switched over to all Macs for workstations and lappys. The only PC archetecture that I have up and running now is the server that runs FreeBSD. I might want to install a fresh copy of Ubuntu on my wife's lappy. I was not able to get X11 to work right with fink. Mac ports seem to support more applications and is more familiar to me since I use FreeBSD. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: PCB Netlist?
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Peter Clifton [1]pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 10:33 -0700, Chris Maness wrote: [snip] I switched over to all Macs for workstations and lappys. The only PC archetecture that I have up and running now is the server that runs FreeBSD. I might want to install a fresh copy of Ubuntu on my wife's lappy. I was not able to get X11 to work right with fink. Mac ports seem to support more applications and is more familiar to me since I use FreeBSD. gschem and PCB will run just fine on FreeBSD too, if it helps. -- Peter Clifton Yea, I am using it on my FreeBSD box w/ VNC over the network. My BSD box is headless. Chris References 1. mailto:pc...@cam.ac.uk ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Gschem Output to Netlist Format?
How do you dump a gschem schematic to a netlist? I do not see an export in the menu list. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Gschem Output to Netlist Format?
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Chris Maness [1]ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: How do you dump a gschem schematic to a netlist? I do not see an export in the menu list. Thanks, Chris Maness Ok, it looks like I need to install gshc2pcb. Chris References 1. mailto:ch...@chrismaness.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: No Diode in PCB?
Is there no diode in the default PCB symbol directories? Thanks, Chris Maness ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Gschem Output to Netlist Format?
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:03 PM, DJ Delorie [1...@delorie.com wrote: For pcb (the program) flows there are gsch2pcb and xgsch2pcb. There's a third now - just use File-Import Schematics Of course, that doesn't give you a separate netlist, nor did the OP specify that PCB was the target. Yep, gschem--PCB. Chris References 1. mailto:d...@delorie.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Changing Component Numbers
I am not going the netlist way. I am just adding component by component. When I add capacitors and resistors, I get C7 and R11 every time I add one. How do I change this behavior? Thanks, Chris Maness ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Changing Component Numbers
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:54 PM, DJ Delorie [1...@delorie.com wrote: When I add capacitors and resistors, I get C7 and R11 every time I add one. If you add elements directly to a pcb, you get whatever refdes they had when the footprint was created. You might be able to get more useful behavior by turning on Require unique element names. Ok, that works, is there a way to change components that have already been added? Thanks, Chris Maness References 1. mailto:d...@delorie.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: PCB Doughnut/Solder Pad Size?
Thanks, that worked perfectly. Chris On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak [1]...@familieknaak.de wrote: On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:52:09 -0700, Chris Maness wrote: Is there a way to increase the land size in PCB for all components? I plan on drilling by hand and the pads look a little too small for me to drill comfortably. 1) select all components. You may shut of all layers except silk so the select tool doesn't catch tracks. 3) chose select - change_size_of_selected_objects - Pins_+10_mil You may rip off the sub menu at the dashed line to make it stay on the screen for convenient repeated application. 3a) Alternatively, issue an action command: Type a colon to open the command line. In the command line type ChangeSize(SelectedPins, SIZE) Replace SIZE with the desired size, given in 1/100 mil. 1mm = 3937 If SIZE is prefixed by - the size is decreased. If the prefix is +, the size is increased. If there is no sign, it is interpreted as an absolute value. Refer to the pcb manual for the syntax of the ChangeSize action: [2]http://pcb.gpleda.org/pcb-cvs/pcb.html#ChangeSize-Action If this helps, I'll add it as a pcb-tip to wiki. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover [3]http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key: [4]http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list [5]geda-u...@moria.seul.org [6]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:k...@familieknaak.de 2. http://pcb.gpleda.org/pcb-cvs/pcb.html#ChangeSize-Action 3. http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de/ 4. http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get 5. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 6. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: PCB Doughnut/Solder Pad Size?
Is there a way to increase the land size in PCB for all components? I plan on drilling by hand and the pads look a little too small for me to drill comfortably. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Problem With Macports Install
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Peter Clifton [1]pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 21:21 -0800, Chris Maness wrote: I have installed PCB through Macports. I am using the latest version of macports with a fresh ports tree. I am running OSX 10.5 on an intel macbook. The child windows are unclickable. The radio buttons and the nested list of library files do not seem to respond to mouse clicking. Can someone with a similar set up please confirm this? Please respond directly to: [1][2]ch...@chrismaness.com Thanks, Chris Maness Native or X11 variant of GTK? The native port of GTK 2.18 and onwards is known to have problems due to a lack of client side windows support. Personally, I'd stick to GTK 2.16.x if you want to build native for MacOS X or Win32. Best wishes, Peter C. Would I just download the source myself and compile? Thanks, Chris References 1. mailto:pc...@cam.ac.uk 2. mailto:ch...@chrismaness.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Problem With Macports Install
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Peter Clifton [1]pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 07:37 -0800, Chris Maness wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Peter Clifton [2]pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 21:21 -0800, Chris Maness wrote: I have installed PCB through Macports. I am using the latest version of macports with a fresh ports tree. I am running OSX 10.5 on an intel macbook. The child windows are unclickable. The radio buttons and the nested list of library files do not seem to respond to mouse clicking. Can someone with a similar set up please confirm this? Please respond directly to: [1][3]ch...@chrismaness.com Thanks, Chris Maness Native or X11 variant of GTK? The native port of GTK 2.18 and onwards is known to have problems due to a lack of client side windows support. Personally, I'd stick to GTK 2.16.x if you want to build native for MacOS X or Win32. Best wishes, Peter C. Would I just download the source myself and compile? For gEDA - perhaps. For GTK - I wouldn't, as there are a lot of dependencies to get right. I don't have a Mac, so can't really advise much here. I guess the first thing to find out is what version of GTK you have ended up with, and whether it is a native or X11 build. PS. I'm not sure the geda-* lists accept CC'd posts. Best to put the list as To, and CC anyone else. Best wishes, Peter C. I just need for a few small projects. I have my macbook set up to dual boot winxp, so I will just stick with that for now. Do you know how to find out who the port maintainer for PCB is in macports? I could probably send him an email to let him/her know that there is a problem. Thanks, Chris Maness References 1. mailto:pc...@cam.ac.uk 2. mailto:pc...@cam.ac.uk 3. mailto:ch...@chrismaness.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Problem With Macports Install
I have installed PCB through Macports. I am using the latest version of macports with a fresh ports tree. I am running OSX 10.5 on an intel macbook. The child windows are unclickable. The radio buttons and the nested list of library files do not seem to respond to mouse clicking. Can someone with a similar set up please confirm this? Please respond directly to: [1]ch...@chrismaness.com Thanks, Chris Maness References 1. mailto:ch...@chrismaness.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
