Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-14 Thread Klaus Rudolph

Ineiev schrieb:

On 10/13/09, Klaus Rudolph lts-rudo...@gmx.de wrote:

I try to rotate some smd parts (0603) on the layout,m but only the silk
layer rotates. If I switch of the silk layer, I could not rotate
anything. Rotating SO14 is working. Sorry, I am to silly to rotate a
simple smd device :-)


Can you remove all other objects from that board and post it here?


I added the file with one element added with gsch2pcb and one added manual.

If I set settings-lock names I could rotate the element if the name 
is visible. If silk layer is switched of, I could not rotate the element.


Switching settings-only names on or off has no effect.

# release: pcb 20081128
# date:Wed Oct 14 08:50:12 2009
# user:zfrdh (zfrdh)
# host:tux02.site

# To read pcb files, the pcb version (or the cvs source date) must be = the 
file version
FileVersion[20070407]

PCB[ 60 50]

Grid[1000.00 0 0 1]
Cursor[0 0 6.00]
PolyArea[2.00]
Thermal[0.50]
DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]
Flags(rubberband,nameonpcb,autodrc,locknames)
Groups(1,2,3,s:4,5,6,c:s:c)
Styles[Signal,1000,4000,2000,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000,6000,3500,1000:Skinny,800,3600,2000,1000]

Symbol(' ' 18)
(
)
Symbol('!' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 45 0 50 8)
SymbolLine(0 10 0 35 8)
)
Symbol('' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 10 0 20 8)
SymbolLine(10 10 10 20 8)
)
Symbol('#' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 35 20 35 8)
SymbolLine(0 25 20 25 8)
SymbolLine(15 20 15 40 8)
SymbolLine(5 20 5 40 8)
)
Symbol('$' 12)
(
SymbolLine(15 15 20 20 8)
SymbolLine(5 15 15 15 8)
SymbolLine(0 20 5 15 8)
SymbolLine(0 20 0 25 8)
SymbolLine(0 25 5 30 8)
SymbolLine(5 30 15 30 8)
SymbolLine(15 30 20 35 8)
SymbolLine(20 35 20 40 8)
SymbolLine(15 45 20 40 8)
SymbolLine(5 45 15 45 8)
SymbolLine(0 40 5 45 8)
SymbolLine(10 10 10 50 8)
)
Symbol('%' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 15 0 20 8)
SymbolLine(0 15 5 10 8)
SymbolLine(5 10 10 10 8)
SymbolLine(10 10 15 15 8)
SymbolLine(15 15 15 20 8)
SymbolLine(10 25 15 20 8)
SymbolLine(5 25 10 25 8)
SymbolLine(0 20 5 25 8)
SymbolLine(0 50 40 10 8)
SymbolLine(35 50 40 45 8)
SymbolLine(40 40 40 45 8)
SymbolLine(35 35 40 40 8)
SymbolLine(30 35 35 35 8)
SymbolLine(25 40 30 35 8)
SymbolLine(25 40 25 45 8)
SymbolLine(25 45 30 50 8)
SymbolLine(30 50 35 50 8)
)
Symbol('' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 45 5 50 8)
SymbolLine(0 15 0 25 8)
SymbolLine(0 15 5 10 8)
SymbolLine(0 35 15 20 8)
SymbolLine(5 50 10 50 8)
SymbolLine(10 50 20 40 8)
SymbolLine(0 25 25 50 8)
SymbolLine(5 10 10 10 8)
SymbolLine(10 10 15 15 8)
SymbolLine(15 15 15 20 8)
SymbolLine(0 35 0 45 8)
)
Symbol(''' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 20 10 10 8)
)
Symbol('(' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 45 5 50 8)
SymbolLine(0 15 5 10 8)
SymbolLine(0 15 0 45 8)
)
Symbol(')' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 10 5 15 8)
SymbolLine(5 15 5 45 8)
SymbolLine(0 50 5 45 8)
)
Symbol('*' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 20 20 40 8)
SymbolLine(0 40 20 20 8)
SymbolLine(0 30 20 30 8)
SymbolLine(10 20 10 40 8)
)
Symbol('+' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 30 20 30 8)
SymbolLine(10 20 10 40 8)
)
Symbol(',' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 60 10 50 8)
)
Symbol('-' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 30 20 30 8)
)
Symbol('.' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 50 5 50 8)
)
Symbol('/' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 45 30 15 8)
)
Symbol('0' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 45 5 50 8)
SymbolLine(0 15 0 45 8)
SymbolLine(0 15 5 10 8)
SymbolLine(5 10 15 10 8)
SymbolLine(15 10 20 15 8)
SymbolLine(20 15 20 45 8)
SymbolLine(15 50 20 45 8)
SymbolLine(5 50 15 50 8)
SymbolLine(0 40 20 20 8)
)
Symbol('1' 12)
(
SymbolLine(5 50 15 50 8)
SymbolLine(10 10 10 50 8)
SymbolLine(0 20 10 10 8)
)
Symbol('2' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 15 5 10 8)
SymbolLine(5 10 20 10 8)
SymbolLine(20 10 25 15 8)
SymbolLine(25 15 25 25 8)
SymbolLine(0 50 25 25 8)
SymbolLine(0 50 25 50 8)
)
Symbol('3' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 15 5 10 8)
SymbolLine(5 10 15 10 8)
SymbolLine(15 10 20 15 8)
SymbolLine(20 15 20 45 8)
SymbolLine(15 50 20 45 8)
SymbolLine(5 50 15 50 8)
SymbolLine(0 45 5 50 8)
SymbolLine(5 30 20 30 8)
)
Symbol('4' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 30 20 10 8)
SymbolLine(0 30 25 30 8)
SymbolLine(20 10 20 50 8)
)
Symbol('5' 12)
(
SymbolLine(0 10 20 10 8)
SymbolLine(0 10 0 30 8)
SymbolLine(0 30 5 25 8)
SymbolLine(5 25 15 25 8)
SymbolLine(15 25 20 30 8)
SymbolLine(20 30 20 45 8)
SymbolLine(15 50 20 45 8)
SymbolLine(5 50 15 50 8

gEDA-user: pcb: moving components to other side

2009-10-14 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi all,

if I move a component to the other side of the board, the part is moved 
to a total different position!

I expected that the part is on the same place but on the other side.

What I did wrong?




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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: moving components to other side

2009-10-14 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Stefan Salewski schrieb:
 On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 13:19 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:07 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote:
 Hi all,

 if I move a component to the other side of the board, the part is moved 
 to a total different position!

 I expected that the part is on the same place but on the other side.

 What I did wrong?


 How do you move the elements to the other side?
 I guess you move the mouse pointer over the element and press B key?

 This seems to flip the part relative to the mouse pointer for vertical
 position. But relative to center of element for horizontal position.

 No idea why.

 
 OK, you may have selected the element first and used SHIFT B to flip.
 
 Seems to be a mirror operation relative to the center of the board?
 

maybe, but this is not what I need ;)
and I think, to flip the parts around a middle line or the center of the 
board is not really what a user want.



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Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-14 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Stefan Salewski schrieb:
 On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 08:51 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote:
 Ineiev schrieb:
 On 10/13/09, Klaus Rudolph lts-rudo...@gmx.de wrote:
 I try to rotate some smd parts (0603) on the layout,m but only the silk
 layer rotates. If I switch of the silk layer, I could not rotate
 anything. Rotating SO14 is working. Sorry, I am to silly to rotate a
 simple smd device :-)
 Can you remove all other objects from that board and post it here?
 I added the file with one element added with gsch2pcb and one added manual.

 If I set settings-lock names I could rotate the element if the name 
 is visible. If silk layer is switched of, I could not rotate the element.

 Switching settings-only names on or off has no effect.

 plain text document attachment (test001.pcb)
 
 Well...
 
 You have the text above the pads.
 So rotate tool rotates the text. How can the tool guess that you wants
 to rotate the pads?

if I switch off the silk layer, the got the same result, not the element 
nor the text is rotated

if I move the text away from the symbol, i can rotate the symbol
BUT!
if I switch of the silk layer and have the text moved away I am NOT! 
able to rotate the element! Is this intended?

 
 So lock the text, or move it away first. Having silk text on pads is not
 good for soldering...
I agree :-)

But is it not a typical work flow to first move and rotate the parts, do 
the layout and after that move the labels around? If I first move the 
labels, they may appear near another element. This makes things a bit 
difficult to handle...

I think the no rotation of elements if silk layer is off is a bit 
mysterious.

The lock names setting is my work around for the problem, so I can do my 
work. But I think this is not the behavior which is expected.


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Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-13 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Stefan Salewski schrieb:

 I try to rotate some smd parts (0603) on the layout,m but only the silk 
 layer rotates. If I switch of the silk layer, I could not rotate 
 anything. Rotating SO14 is working. Sorry, I am to silly to rotate a 
 simple smd device :-)

 Any trick?

 
 Which program?
pcb
 
 Which version of the program?
 
Version 20081128

 Which angle?
90 degrees


 
 Which command/action did you try.

I tried the rot-button

 
 Footprint shipped with the program, or made yourself?
 
Shipped footprint in ~geda



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Re: gEDA-user: own m4 symbols in pcb

2009-10-13 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Kai-Martin Knaak schrieb:
 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:48:09 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote:
 
 I have an old symbol file with my own m4 symbols simply named own.inc
 
 Disclaimer: I prefer newlib footprints and never use the m4 library. So 
 my advice given below might be completely wrong...
 
  
 But how can I use this from pcb? I can't see my symbols there :-( Maybe
 I never included this to pcb symbols and use it solely with gschem2pcb
 but I can't remember :-)

 Can you give my a hint how to integrate own m4 symbols to pcb 
 
 Add the Path to your library directory, not including the libdir itself 
 to the Path given in 
   Preferences - Library
 
 
 and how make own m4 symbols active for geschem2pcb
 
 Add the path to your footprint library to gsch2pcb with the -d option. 
 Alternatively you can set this resource in a project file. See Bill 
 Wilsons tutorial for the details.
 

A add my file to the project file and it works.

m4-file x/y/z.inc

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gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-12 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi all,

I try to rotate some smd parts (0603) on the layout,m but only the silk 
layer rotates. If I switch of the silk layer, I could not rotate 
anything. Rotating SO14 is working. Sorry, I am to silly to rotate a 
simple smd device :-)

Any trick?

Thanks
  Klaus


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gEDA-user: own m4 symbols in pcb

2009-10-11 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi all,

after 2? years I start again developing a circuit with geda and pcb.

I have an old symbol file with my own m4 symbols simply named own.inc

But how can I use this from pcb? I can't see my symbols there :-(
Maybe I never included this to pcb symbols and use it solely with
gschem2pcb but I can't remember :-)

Can you give my a hint how to integrate own m4 symbols to pcb and how
make own m4 symbols active for geschem2pcb


I dig in my old projects now...

Thanks a lot...

Klaus






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Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf stable version 1.4.0-20080127 released!

2008-01-30 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Peter Clifton schrieb:
 On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 08:49 +0100, Klaus Rudolph wrote:
 Hi,

 it would be nice if there will be an ISO-Image again for the actual 
 releases of all! the tools. This will be very convinient for me!/us? :-)
 
 I think that is going to be unlikely. The ISO-CD's successor is a binary
 installer which Ales is working on. This will have gEDA and some other
 related tools like PCB and gerbv.
That will maybe result in a lot of library problems on different 
linux-os versions and distributions. I prefere compiling on my system :-)
 
 If you wanted to build from source, I actually find checkout out from
 git and using the top-level Makefile there easier than fetching all the
 dist tarballs and using the Makefile.
 
I got this answer weeks ago :-) Yes, I have no idea how git works, I 
have no idea what files I have to check out from what and so on. Is it 
possible to write a README/HOWTO where I can get a step by step 
introduction what I have to do on my system to get the complete sources 
to compile on my system? The result should be the same as on the old iso 
cd. It was so easy to mount the image file and simply enter one command. 
  Now I have to start reading with git :-(, maybe downdload a complete 
repository and what else... I only want the actual! versions... compile 
them... have fun. Please help!

Thanks
  Klaus







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Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf stable version 1.4.0-20080127 released!

2008-01-30 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi,

   Now I have to start reading with git :-(, maybe downdload a complete
 repository and what else... I only want the actual! versions... compile
 them... have fun. Please help!
 
   git clone git://git.gpleda.org/gaf.git
   cd gaf
   make install  # To install in $HOME/geda
   -- or --
   make prefix=somewhere install # To install elsewhere
 
   git pull  # To get new changes
 
Will that result in actual development status or will I get the latest 
release-versions from the tools/libs? If this is the actual development
status, how can I get the last release?

pcb is not longer contained in geda tools?

Thanks
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gEDA-user: intltool version check

2008-01-30 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi all,

while compiling I got:
checking for intltool = 0.35.0... 0.34.1 found. Your intltool is too 
old.  You need intltool 0.35.0 or later.


I installed new version 0.37 but the result is the same.
In the same shell I checked with:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/gaf intltoolize --version
intltoolize (GNU intltool) 0.37.0

Which test is performed from configure and maybe which old file must be 
removed to get correct version in check?

Thanks
  Klaus


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Re: gEDA-user: intltool version check

2008-01-30 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi again,

after updating the intltool and restart the complete build I got:

** Configuration summary for libgeda 1.4.0.20080127

GLIB library version: 2.8.5
GTK+ library version: 2.8.10
GUILE library version:1.6.7
GDK-PIXBUF (png output):  2.8.10
mingw build:  no
data directory:   /home/zfrdh/newgeda/share/gEDA
rc directory: /home/zfrdh/newgeda/share/gEDA
xdg data directory:   /home/zfrdh/.local/share
KDE data directory:   /home/zfrdh/.kde/share
LIBGEDA .so version:  33:0:0
dmalloc debugging:no
ElectricFence debugging:  no

( cd libgeda; make install )
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/zfrdh/gaf/libgeda'
Making install in data
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/zfrdh/gaf/libgeda/data'
LC_ALL=C ../intltool-merge -d -u -c ../po/.intltool-merge-cache ../po 
x-geda-gsch2pcb-project.desktop.in x-geda-gsch2pcb-project.desktop
Possible unintended interpolation of @INTLTOOL_LIBDIR in string at 
../intltool-merge line 322.
Global symbol @INTLTOOL_LIBDIR requires explicit package name at 
../intltool-merge line 322.
Execution of ../intltool-merge aborted due to compilation errors.
make[2]: *** [x-geda-gsch2pcb-project.desktop] Error 255
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/zfrdh/gaf/libgeda/data'
make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/zfrdh/gaf/libgeda'
make: *** [libgeda_install] Error 2

Sorry, I am out. I will continue to use the old cd-iso image, that works 
for me. :-(


 Hi all,
 
 while compiling I got:
 checking for intltool = 0.35.0... 0.34.1 found. Your intltool is too 
 old.  You need intltool 0.35.0 or later.
 
 
 I installed new version 0.37 but the result is the same.
 In the same shell I checked with:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/gaf intltoolize --version
 intltoolize (GNU intltool) 0.37.0
 
 Which test is performed from configure and maybe which old file must be 
 removed to get correct version in check?
 
 Thanks
   Klaus
 
 
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Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf stable version 1.4.0-20080127 released!

2008-01-30 Thread Klaus Rudolph
DJ Delorie schrieb:
 pcb is not longer contained in geda tools?
 
 pcb has never been in the geda source repository.
 
It was on the cd-iso-image, right?

I am only user and want to update of actual versions. Thats all why I 
ask :-)

Thanks
  Klaus



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Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf stable version 1.4.0-20080127 released!

2008-01-29 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi,

it would be nice if there will be an ISO-Image again for the actual 
releases of all! the tools. This will be very convinient for me!/us? :-)

Thanks
  Klaus

 Hi,
 
 After almost five months of development, I am pleased to announce the next
 major stable release of gEDA/gaf (v1.4.0)!  Many thanks to everybody
 who worked on this release and the previous v1.3.x releases.
 
 You can find this release at:
 
 Release Notes: TBD
 Download: http://geda.seul.org/release/v1.4/1.4.0
 
 I will write up release notes and send them out soon.  
 
 Enjoy,
 
 -Ales
 
 PS. md5sum's for this release:
 
 f60118dcc9067254227af30041a50767 *geda-docs-1.4.0.tar.gz
 ba3984ccdc75a47a0ed88bf0916733e7 *geda-examples-1.4.0.tar.gz
 e3a455f46c37fcf2ff93cc87bf20dc32 *geda-gattrib-1.4.0.tar.gz
 b90ea69e260b35c3801e20795275cf2c *geda-gnetlist-1.4.0.tar.gz
 f09144055957e894af7c74ea01b19265 *geda-gschem-1.4.0.tar.gz
 cc7328eef2de2f3aac496c15640671f0 *geda-gsymcheck-1.4.0.tar.gz
 212f390e71d0fb4188b3a48d5bd8c076 *geda-symbols-1.4.0.tar.gz
 e28f8e42e89d4784ca875071642386d8 *geda-utils-1.4.0.tar.gz
 6d123e1c41b36688a951351b0f8a9764 *libgeda-1.4.0.tar.gz
 1f3a37de1b5ff14126556b2c7e60b728 *Makefile
 4745ac2c32a160bfcc55ca0fc5b14349 *README
 
 
 
 
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Re: gEDA-user: could not connect nets gschem/gsch2pcb/pcb

2007-12-21 Thread Klaus Rudolph

Having multiple netnames should not be a problem and work sometimes.



Methinks that having multiple netnames for the same net should ALWAYS  
trigger a DRC error.

  

For connecting different nets there must be a schematic which connects 
the nets. Why should manual connecting nets be an error?
I often have vcc, 5volts, analog voltages and maybe others which I must 
connect. Changing the schematics which I use more then in one design is 
not a solution. Sometimes vcc goes to +5V, sometimes to +3.3V, sometimes 
analog voltage for an opamp is the +5volts and vcc, sometimes I have a 
seperate 12V net. This is simply wired on a extra schematic. This is the 
only solution I know.

If connecting nets should be an error, what is your (the list members) 
prefered solution for this kind of workflow?

Bye
 Klaus





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gEDA-user: could not connect nets gschem/gsch2pcb/pcb

2007-12-20 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi all,

 I have a terrible problem which I could not solve :-(

I have a set of circuits drawn with gschem.
I use gsch2pcb to make the netlist and use it in pcb

I allways get the following message:
WARNING: Trying to rename something twice:
PLUS5V and PLUS5V
are both a src and dest name
This warning is okay if you have multiple levels of hierarchy!

As result my net PLUS5V is NOT connected to +5V and I could not route 
the circuit in pcb :-(

Any hint to find the problem?

If needed, I could send you my working directory as a tgz as pm, I don't 
want polute the list here :-)

Thanks!
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Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-20 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi,

I use pin names for transistors in gschem and pcb. This makes it 
possible to use different footprints with one! symbol in gschem.
Changing from TO92 to TO220 will result in wrong connection with the 
standard numbers. And I also can give a string with the footprint like
BCE if I need different pinout for a special TO220 device if needed. 
If parameter is not given it defaults to the normal pinout. I can 
spend the m4
makros if needed.

Hello,

I have read that we can use single letters like C, E, B as pin
names -- this makes it simpler to assign the correct footprint to a
symbol.

On the other hand, default geda/pcb symbols/footprints seems to use
digits.

What is your advice? Is there a fixed correlation between numbers and
letters, i.e. B = 1, ...

Best regards

Stefan Salewski




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Re: gEDA-user: could not connect nets gschem/gsch2pcb/pcb

2007-12-20 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Levente schrieb:

Klaus Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi all,

I have a terrible problem which I could not solve :-(

I have a set of circuits drawn with gschem.
I use gsch2pcb to make the netlist and use it in pcb

I allways get the following message:
WARNING: Trying to rename something twice:
   PLUS5V and PLUS5V
are both a src and dest name
This warning is okay if you have multiple levels of hierarchy!

As result my net PLUS5V is NOT connected to +5V and I could not route 
the circuit in pcb :-(

Any hint to find the problem?



I guess you have one net with two names. Or you have one net with two same
power symbol attached to it.
  

I have three nets which use different names but should connected. This 
is Vcc because this is used in an avr symbol, then I use +5V from an 
other symbol (power) and then I have a net called PLUS5V. In one 
schematic I use 3 times output-2.sym with the attatched net=PLUS5V:1, 
net=Vcc:1 and so on. And normaly I want simply that these nets will be 
connected and whithout a warning :-)

  

If needed, I could send you my working directory as a tgz as pm, I don't 
want polute the list here :-)



Could you upload somewhere, and send the link?
  

Sorry, I have no web space :-(

Bye
 Klaus



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Re: gEDA-user: could not connect nets gschem/gsch2pcb/pcb

2007-12-20 Thread Klaus Rudolph

  

I have three nets which use different names but should connected. This 
is Vcc because this is used in an avr symbol, then I use +5V from an 
other symbol (power) and then I have a net called PLUS5V. In one 



That is the problem. Make your symbols netname free. One net should have just
one name. Otherwise your netlister just can't figure out what the real name of
your supply will be.
  


Having multiple netnames should not be a problem and work sometimes. 
Actually I worked arround that problem while
renaming one net to 4th name( PLUS_). The warning is still there, but 
all nets are now connected. The job for the software is still simple:
collect all connections for all nets which are interconnected in one 
list with one of the net names (simply the first name :-). Thats all and 
this should not result in redesigning symbols. And yes, I have own 
symbols which use net attributes to connect default nets to 
sub-schematics. As I think, there is simply a bug inside the netlister?!

  

schematic I use 3 times output-2.sym with the attatched net=PLUS5V:1, 
net=Vcc:1 and so on. And normaly I want simply that these nets will be 
connected and whithout a warning :-)



Yes, we all do. But there is a law goes with computer world: Computers are
working according to their software, and not according to our thoughts.

But don't panic, I don't want to let you down. Which AVR symbol are you using?
I have atmega8, and atmega16 off the shelf.

  

I use AT90S8515_DIP.sym which is  really a bit terrible, because it is 
not possible to use another footprint like smd or plcc or something 
else. This is the old discussion of using numbers, meaing a pin 
sequence, not logical pins. If using logical pins, maybe with names like 
PD0..PD7 and so on, we would be able to use all footprints with one 
symbol.  I did this work for transostors for me, because I would not 
change my circuit only while having an other package. But this is 
another topic :-)

Regards,
 Klaus



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Re: gEDA-user: PCB no longer has a 50 mil grid size?

2007-11-30 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Ben Jackson schrieb:
 On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:31:51AM -0800, David Griffith wrote:
 I modify src/pcb-menu.res and
 look for these two lines:

 { 25 mil   checked=gridsize,2500 SetUnits(mil) SetValue(Grid,2500)}
 {100 mil   checked=gridsize,1 SetUnits(mil) SetValue(Grid,1)}

 Then I insert the correct code for 50 mils between those two.
 
 You don't need to recompile,  You just have to put that in your ~/.pcb
 and edit your ~/.pcb/settings to point at it (change the pcb-menu
 line and uncomment it).
 
My pcb version takes /usr/local/share/pcb/gpcb-menu.res. I changed the 
line and 50mil is available. Great!

What is the difference for pcb-menu and gpcb-menu?

Thanks


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB no longer has a 50 mil grid size?

2007-11-29 Thread Klaus Rudolph
David Griffith schrieb:
 I just upgraded my installation of PCB from 20070208 to pcb_20070912 and
 noticed that View-Grid_size no longer has an option to set the gridsize
 to 50 mils.  I don't see why that option should have been removed.  Would
 whoever took it out please put it back?
 

Yes, I need it also! That is my most important grid. I have actually 
both versions installed while 50mil has gone :-( I have no idea how 
normal DIL routing should work without 50mil... wondering...




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gEDA-user: file format of pcb-files needed

2007-11-28 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi,

I am searching for a description of file formats used by pcb.
Especially a description of library files (m4) and the elements there 
like Elements, Via, Arc, Mark and so on.

Thanks


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gEDA-user: Missing the printable docs for gschem

2007-11-28 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi,

I am searching for the documentation of gschem and especially for 
creating subcircuits with geschem. I need a subcircuit 16 times on a 
pcb, so I want to use that feature. Long time ago I have used it, but 
could not find any documentation anymore. All what I found is the 
geda-wiki which contains a lot of dead links and circular links to it 
self but not the information I need. And yes, I want it in a printable 
version like pdf or ps. Yes, here are two questions:

1) where is the printable documentation gone

2) how to create subcircuits for gschm-pcb toolchain.

Thanks






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Re: gEDA-user: CD Rom Images

2007-11-07 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi Peter,

I installed now git and want to get the last release of the gEDA suite. 
Is there one release tag for all components? Could I checkout with one 
command all last releases? Sorry, I have no idea which structure you 
have in the projects so I have to ask. And I have never used git before. 
  Only cvs and svn on my desk until now:-)

If there is one checkout command for all last stable versions, please 
give me a hint! Thanks!

Klaus


 On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 14:59 +0100, Klaus Rudolph wrote:
 Hi,

 the latest CD Rom Image I found is dated from Feb. 07.

 I like to compile the complete stuff from the sources and will normaly 
 not use rpm´s. My linux system is very old so I have sometimes a lot of 
 trouble with newer rps and dependencies.

 Is it possible to create an actual cd rom image the next days? Getting 
 all sources manually is a hard job :-)
 
 I'm not sure about the CD, but if you want bleeding edge (or any release
 you care), you could checkout over the net from our source-code
 repository..
 
 git clone git://git.gpleda.org/gaf.git
 
 There is a toplevel makefile which you can use to build all of gEDA
 (much faster than having to ./configure and make each of the 8-10 or so
 subdirs worth of release tarballs.)
 
 If you aren't developing (for which you'd want to ask git to make a
 branch), you can just checkout a particular release:
 
 e.g.
 
 cd gaf
 git checkout 1.2.0-20070902 
 
 (or git checkout master to get back onto the local branch created
 during checkout).
 
 git fetch will retrieve code-changes from the server, and git pull
 from your master branch should merge them into anything you've
 committed. (Actually, it will probably do the fetch for you too).
 
 Best wishes,
 



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gEDA-user: CD Rom Images

2007-11-06 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi,

the latest CD Rom Image I found is dated from Feb. 07.

I like to compile the complete stuff from the sources and will normaly 
not use rpm´s. My linux system is very old so I have sometimes a lot of 
trouble with newer rps and dependencies.

Is it possible to create an actual cd rom image the next days? Getting 
all sources manually is a hard job :-)

thanks
  Klaus




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