Re: gEDA-user: possible collaborators on PCB, gschem [Kicad (or another FOSS tool)]
Larry Doolittle ldool...@recycle.lbl.gov writes: John - On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:07:51PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: Larry Doolittle is going to be there in person. What can we tell them to get them interested in gEDA more than KiCAD? Not push and shove, unless someone (not me) goes wild programming between now and October. I have an outline of some ideas I'd like to get across in the talk, and I know I need to review other people's talks on the subject first. Maybe someone (John?) would like to go over my material ahead of time? Not that I need to toe the party line or anything, but it would be nice to give a clear message, consistent with the larger community. There's lots of time. I haven't even boarded the plane yet! I can probably go in person, if that would help. It's a short hop for me. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpKHaSeWObjJ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: dir = g_dir_open() should be freed by g_dir_close(dir)
k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) writes: [snip] Thanks Karl. I've committed both your patches. In future, please help me get your patches integrated more quickly efficiently by following the instructions in the gEDA `HACKING' file. If for some reason you cannot use Launchpad to submit patches, please ensure that your e-mal has `[PATCH]' at the start of the subject. Thanks! Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpt6zovVt16W.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: SCM_ASSERT() with false SCM_ARGx
k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) writes: From guile documentation: -- Macro: void SCM_ASSERT (int TEST, SCM OBJ, unsigned int POSITION, const char *SUBR) ... -- Macro: int SCM_ARG1 ... -- Macro: int SCM_ARG7 One of the above values can be used for POSITION to indicate the number of the argument of SUBR which is being checked. ... Some SCM_ASSERT() calls have the wrong SCM_ARGx for its TEST and OBJ. Hi Karl, My client can't MIME-decode this message. Please submit the patch by Launchpad if possible, or failing that try e-mailing it to me directly. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgp05oRjlG3kk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Crash in gschem
Eivind Kvedalen eivin...@infeline.org writes: Using head (dad94bf12c2ef120fae7a45a0020107815b84ef0), gschem crashes when double-clicking on an object. Fixed. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpiRoKiRZuYB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Crash when rotating whole board
Thomas Oldbury toldb...@gmail.com writes: Bump. Not a major problem but would be nice to see fixed. Anyone know what could cause this? Just a reminder that if you want to make sure that problems that you've reported don't get lost in the list archives, it's always a good idea to file a bug report. For PCB, that's here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+filebug Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpY0ObF4d0RI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Draft documentation for Scheme API
On Friday 24 June 2011 22:44:29 Peter TB Brett wrote: Hi folks, I've now written the documentation for the Scheme API so far (in TexInfo, simply because that was the quickest way to get it done and looking nice). I've put an HTML version on the web temporarily here: http://peter-b.co.uk/geda/geda-scheme/ That URL will change soon(ish), and I'll let you know when it does. Now at http://geda.peter-b.co.uk/geda-scheme/. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Draft documentation for Scheme API
Hi folks, I've now written the documentation for the Scheme API so far (in TexInfo, simply because that was the quickest way to get it done and looking nice). I've put an HTML version on the web temporarily here: http://peter-b.co.uk/geda/geda-scheme/ That URL will change soon(ish), and I'll let you know when it does. Please let me know if you see any problems, as I hope to merge this branch in the next week or so. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpPkwg4CP3vY.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gschem saving symbols
Josh Jordan outerspacema...@yahoo.com writes: I could implement a save-symbol-as capability. Can anyone familiar with gschem code outline a 'right' way to this? Should I add another option to Hierarchy down modified symbol and change the other to down original symbol? Or would it be better to add a 'save symbol as' function to the right-click menu that operates on selected objects? Should I try not to change libgeda? See attached. To use it, you need to: 1) Build and install my `guile-scheme-api' branch (see http://goo.gl/ENfRl for more info). 2) Save the attached `save-selected-symbol.scm' file somewhere sensible. 3) Modify your gschem rc files to load the Scheme file and add the `save-selected-symbol' function to the menu/keybindings (this is left as an exercise to the reader). This extension took me about an hour to write and about another 30 minutes to test. Regards, Peter P.S. This branch will be merged into unstable sometime in the next few weeks, once I've had enough time to write the API docs. -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ;; gEDA - GPL Electronic Design Automation ;; gschem extension for saving symbols ;; Copyright (C) 2011 Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk ;; ;; This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify ;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by ;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or ;; (at your option) any later version. ;; ;; This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, ;; but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of ;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the ;; GNU General Public License for more details. ;; ;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License ;; along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software ;; Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111 USA ;; (use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) (use-modules (geda object)) (use-modules (geda page)) (use-modules (geda attrib)) (use-modules (gschem window)) (use-modules (gschem selection)) (define (save-selected-symbol) ;; Demote an attribute into a symbol. This first searches page for ;; an unattached attribute with the same name as attrib. If found, ;; the value of the found attribute is replaced by the the value of ;; attrib; otherwise, attrib is copied into page. (define (demote-attribute! page attrib) (let* ((name (attrib-name attrib)) (current (find (lambda (x) (and (attribute? x) (equal? name (attrib-name x (page-contents page (if current ;; We found a matching attribute, so set the value and ;; visibility. This makes sure that attributes that were ;; promoted and made invisible are made visible again. (begin (set-attrib-value! current (attrib-value attrib)) (set-text-visibility! current (text-visible? attrib))) ;; We didn't find a match, so copy the attribute into the ;; page. (page-append! page (copy-object attrib) ;; This is the main worker function. It creates a new page, ;; initially populated by the contents of object, which must be a ;; component. Attributes attached to the object are copied into the ;; generated page, overriding existing attributes with that name. (define (component-page object) ;; Initial page filename is ;; schematic filename@symbol basename (let ((P (make-page (string-join (list (page-filename (object-page object)) (component-basename object)) @ ;; Copy over the contents of the component. (for-each (lambda (x) (if (attrib-attachment x) ;; Object is attached as an attribute; skip it, we'll ;; deal with it when we copy the object that it's ;; attached to. #t ;; Otherwise, copy the object over, and any attached ;; attributes. (let ((new-x (copy-object x))) (page-append! P new-x) (for-each (lambda (a) (let ((new-a (copy-object a))) (page-append! P new-a) (attach-attrib! new-x new-a))) (object-attribs x) (component-contents object)) ;; Demote attributes (for-each (lambda (x) (demote-attribute! P x)) (object-attribs object)) ;; Return the created page P)) ;; Returns the selected component. Displays a message box if the ;; components selected != 1. (define (get-selected-component) (let* ((components (filter! component? (page-selection (active-page (n (length
Re: gEDA-user: gschem saving symbols
Josh Jordan outerspacema...@yahoo.com writes: The script opens a dialog to save the symbol and it also loads the symbol on its own page. I think we could skip the file chooser and make this function open the modified symbol in the Hierarchy menu in a Down Symbol Instance option. Then you can save-as from there with the correct symbol file chooser. It will take me a little while to get up to speed with scheme. Sure. This was only ever intended as a quick hack to quite unashamedly show off my Scheme API work. If it goes some way towards solving your problem, that's also good. Peter ;-) -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpi6XUiuqMh3.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: web version of gschem/pcb
Josh Jordan outerspacema...@yahoo.com writes: It would make development easier if you only support a set of standards instead of different build environments that overall run on a minority of the systems out there. Sorry Josh, but that's just not true. There's only one desktop platform on which gEDA isn't fully supported, and that's MS Windows (and I for one am quite happy to fix *reported* bugs and issues on Win32, and have indeed done so in the last week or so). If you have experienced actual problems with the build system, please don't make unsubstantiated and vague complaints. Please report them properly, so that I can then fix them. ;-) Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpD7OD4fGKk5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: import schematics with local footprints
Kai-Martin Knaak k...@lilalaser.de writes: Ethan Swint wrote: I've got the line (component-library-search /../../footprints) in my gafrc file. Does that set a priority? I just double checked. This setting does not seem to affect the choice of footprints in any way. Correct. The term components in the context of gafrc exclusively refers to symbols. (Why is the parameter not called symbol-search-path?) I don't know the reason, but let's make one up: because the entries in the file format are called component entries and begin with the letter C. It's not like it can be changed now anyway. For gsch2cb the path to the footprint lib is set by the parameter --elements-dir on the command line, or in a project file. (Why isn't it --footprint-dir?) Because the PCB file format calls them elements? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpxpTFSnAQC5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes with the same value
Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de writes: Do attributes have to be unique within a symbol? Currently, gschem/gnetlist is a bit indifferent. This has been discussed before: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.geda.user/34557/focus=34677 Upshot: current behaviour is inconsistent. They don't have to be unique (apart from where they do), but there's a strong argument that they should be. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpV9vOl3C0Tb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Blog post: Porting gEDA to Guile 2.0, and future plans
Hi all, I just published a blog post in which I discuss porting to Guile 2, and ask for suggestions about what part of gEDA I should hack on next. It includes a description of the various work-in-progress branches that I've currently got on the back burner, which might be of interest. http://goo.gl/jprq0 Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: gEDA with Guile 2.0
Hi folks, I've just checked in some changes that enable gEDA to compile and run with Guile 2.0. Please report any issues. Currently, the only known problem is that the `drc2' gnetlist backend is broken. Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgp76wt5NlQSc.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gEDA with Guile 2.0
Currently, the only known problem is that the `drc2' gnetlist backend is broken. This is now fixed, and there are no known issues with using the gEDA main development branch with Guile 2.0. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpyiC80GyuMP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Unsubscribing from the list
Hi folks, It's no longer a worthwhile use of my time to monitor this list, due to the excessively low signal-to-noise ratio. I'm therefore unsubscribing from it for the time being. I will continue to monitor the gEDA-bug and gEDA-dev mailing lists. If you wish to get help with using gEDA, please file a question here: https://answers.launchpad.net/geda If you think you have found a bug, or wish to submit a patch, please file a report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/geda If you wish to contact me directly, my e-mail address is: peter at peter-b.co.uk. Bye! Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: PCB: simple FreeType fonts implementation -- update?
On Friday 13 May 2011 17:34:21 Colin D Bennett wrote: Note that it's been mentioned that PCB's internal text representation should switch from ASCII-7 to UTF-8, and I agree. That should be quite simple and painless, right? Fully backward-compatible. *cringe* Those sound like famous last words to me. There at least four things that make converting to UTF-8 often nightmarish: 1) Code that assumes that strlen returns the number of characters in a string. 2) Code that iterates through characters in a string. 3) Trying to treat filenames as UTF-8 (sometimes they are. Sometimes they're not). 4) Multiple Unicode codepoints for the same actual character. Good luck! Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: minipack-result -- gschem
On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:06:01 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: [snip] Now I get a decent gschem GUI :-) Great! [snip] What would be the HOME in windows. Or alternatively, how would I give a full windows path that includes backslashes and the drive letter? Just like that, I think (you may need to write \ as \\, but note that it is actually valid to use / characters in a Windows path). The build-path Scheme function is (intentionally) portable. By the way, should the lines of the config files be terminated unix style, or DOS style? Doesn't make any difference either way. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: minipack-result -- gschem
On Wed, 11 May 2011 18:31:35 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: -minipack-gschem-with-winXP-in-Virtualbox-- C:\Programme\result\bingschem.exe ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path boot-9.scm is part of Guile (it's the master Scheme script needed to initialise the interpreter). Guile may not be installed correctly. Try running 'guile' and see if you get to a prompt. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: minipack-result -- gschem
On Wed, 11 May 2011 19:08:07 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Peter TB Brett wrote: boot-9.scm is part of Guile (it's the master Scheme script needed to initialise the interpreter). Guile may not be installed correctly. Try running 'guile' and see if you get to a prompt. I get the same result: C:\Programme\result\binguile.exe ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path Okay, the problem is definitely with Guile rather than gschem. Please make sure that you have its paths set up correctly so that it can find its Scheme library. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: drc2 crash
- Original message - I am attempting to run the drc2 check with gnetlist. I have checked each individual schematic separately, and drc2 works fine. But when I tried to run them altogether I am getting the following crash: Stack overflows in gnetlist should never occur in 1.7.0 or later. If you encounter a stack overflow in unstable, please file a specific bug report. In 1.6.x, the stack size increase workaround is required. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Soldering minute smt
On Thursday 27 January 2011 15:47:37 Rob Butts wrote: Holy miniature footprints Batman!!! I'm trying to solder a 10 pin MSOP chip to a home made circuit board. These are incredibly difficult to solder without solder mask, in my experience. Whenever I've had a design that called for them, I've simply opted to contract out the board fab. :-/ Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: going multi core
- Original message - just one such core. Can I expect a spectacular speed-up of gschem and pcb? Or are they throttled by the graphic card anyway? gschem is a single-threaded application. It runs on one core, no matter how many you have. So no, don't expect a big speed up. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Windows gEDA port
On Tuesday 25 January 2011 21:52:52 Terrance Hutchinson wrote: I would like to help develop the Windows port. Your wiki said that if I was interested, I should post to this list. I have been working as a computer engineer for a little over 2 years at a company specializing storage oriented ASICs (PowerPC as well). What are the next steps I should take? - Check it out from git - Try to build it (you will almost certainly want to either cross- compile it on a Linux system, or use MinGW) - When you find a bug (either compiling or running), file a bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/geda/+filebug - Wait for a patch (or write one yourself) - GOTO 10 Peter Clifton has some experience of building Windows binaries for gEDA, and may be able to provide more useful information than I can. Welcome aboard! Peter ;-) -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Windows gEDA port
On Tuesday 25 January 2011 22:09:10 Chris Malton wrote: I too have done some work in so much as getting a full gEDA suite working under Cygwin. MinGW is probably a better option though. There are two main reasons MinGW is better: 1) Cygwin is slow (not sure why, but on a previous project I generated benchmarks to prove it) 2) If you want to run GUI apps from Cygwin you have to be running an X server. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gsymcheck - show line numbers?
On Tuesday 25 January 2011 22:32:21 william estrada wrote: Is there a way to make gsymcheck show the line numbers with the error messages?? Not at the moment, sorry. Peter [ Technical info: the libgeda symbol file parser does not preserve object origin information in the resulting document object model. ] -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: gsch2pcb bug with '-' in filenames fixed
Hi folks, I just committed a fix for the bug in gsch2pcb that breaks things when footprint names contain '-'. Please test and let me know if you encounter any problems. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: auto-uref increments by twos
On Sunday 23 January 2011 05:59:29 jb...@frii.com wrote: As Mithat Konar posted on Sept 6, 2010, I too am now having auto-uref number my components starting with 2 and incrementing by 2. I've just upgraded to 1.6.1.20100214 and it works beautifully (I had been using a significantly older version) but the component numbering issue has me a little baffled. I thought maybe I had two gschemrc's that both had an auto-increment command, but if I disable the gschemrc I wrote in $HOME/.gEDA it doesn't auto-increment at all, just U?. When I enable my personal gschemrc, I go back to getting U2. Any ideas? At the risk of sounding like a broken record, please file a bug report so that we don't forget about this! Cheers, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: speed of the gschem GUI
- Original message - A good strategy is always to have a bounding box for each element, and to draw only elements when their bounding box overlaps with the visible part on screen. So not rely on cairo's clipping. We already do this. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Strange gsch2pcb error
On Friday 21 Jan 2011 15:16:45 Peter Clifton wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 22:39 -0500, Ben Gamari wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:07:23 +, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Error sounded like it might be a classic: Don't put - in footprint names Ahhh. That would explain it. Those packages came from http://www.luciani.org/geda/pcb/pcb-footprint-list.html. Are none of these correctly named? John doesn't use the M4 library at all, so he sticks to his convention. It is really a bug that we don't handle this better. Is Ben's problem a duplicate of this bug then? https://bugs.launchpad.net/geda/+bug/698806 Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git based wiki
If we're talking about changing things, here's my totally unreasonable and unrealistic documentation system wishlist. - Markup: should look as much like a plain text document as possible, so that it's easy to read and edit the documentation without having to continually process it to double-check that it's going to come out right. Nice-looking tables are essential. Bonus points for syntax highlighting mode for Emacs. An example of IMHO *lovely* markup is reStructured Text. - Conversion: should be able to convert the *same* sources to man pages and DocBook XML, and onward to XHTML / HTMLHelp / PDF etc. This is essential so that people who want to contribute to any gEDA documentation only need to learn one markup syntax. An example of IMHO excellent conversion support is ASCIIDoc. The git docs use it especially effectively. - Version control: reference docs should be maintained in-tree so that each branch (e.g. stable and unstable) has its documentation alongside it. Not so fussed about things like getting started guides. It's really good for developers to be in the habit of updating docs in the same patch as changing behaviour. Lots of systems can support this. Would need a docs coordinator or something to assist people who want to help with documentation work but don't have git expertise. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Strange gsch2pcb error
On Thursday 20 January 2011 23:59:24 Ben Gamari wrote: [1] gito...@goldnerlab.physics.umass.edu:beagle-daq What's the password, please? Thanks, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Strange gsch2pcb error
Hi Ben, Works for me. See attached log. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre -*- mode: compilation; default-directory: /home/peter/Projects/geda/beagle-daq/ -*- Compilation started at Fri Jan 21 00:30:26 make pcb gsch2pcb -v project | tee pcb.log SCM_STRING_CHARS is deprecated. See the manual for alternatives. scm_must_malloc is deprecated. Use scm_gc_malloc and scm_gc_free instead. Returning non-0 from a smob free function is deprecated. Use scm_gc_free et al instead. (You just returned non-0 while freeing a object.) Loading schematic [/home/peter/Projects/geda/beagle-daq/beagle-daq.sch] SCM_STRING_CHARS is deprecated. See the manual for alternatives. scm_must_malloc is deprecated. Use scm_gc_malloc and scm_gc_free instead. Returning non-0 from a smob free function is deprecated. Use scm_gc_free et al instead. (You just returned non-0 while freeing a object.) Loading schematic [/home/peter/Projects/geda/beagle-daq/beagle-daq.sch] SCM_STRING_CHARS is deprecated. See the manual for alternatives. scm_must_malloc is deprecated. Use scm_gc_malloc and scm_gc_free instead. Returning non-0 from a smob free function is deprecated. Use scm_gc_free et al instead. (You just returned non-0 while freeing a object.) /usr/bin/m4: cannot open `/home/peter/opt/share/pcb/m4/common.m4': No such file or directory = gsch2pcb backend configuration: Variables which may be changed in gafrc: gsch2pcb:pcb-m4-command:/usr/bin/m4 gsch2pcb:pcb-m4-dir:/home/peter/opt/share/pcb/m4 gsch2pcb:pcb-m4-confdir:/home/peter/opt/etc/pcb gsch2pcb:pcb-m4-path: /home/peter/opt/share/pcb/m4 /home/peter/opt/etc/pcb $HOME/.pcb . gsch2pcb:m4-command-line: /usr/bin/m4 -d -I/home/peter/opt/share/pcb/m4 -I/home/peter/opt/etc/pcb -I$HOME/.pcb -I. /home/peter/opt/share/pcb/m4/common.m4 - beagle-daq.new.pcb --- Variables which may be changed in the project file: --- gsch2pcb:use-m4:yes = Using the m4 processor for pcb footprints Loading schematic [/home/peter/Projects/geda/beagle-daq/beagle-daq.sch] GPIO/U1: can't find PCB element for footprint SSOP24 (value=unknown) So device GPIO/U1 will not be in the layout. U5: can't find PCB element for footprint SSOP8 (value=unknown) So device U5 will not be in the layout. Reading project file: project schematics beagle-daq.sch output-name beagle-daq Processing PCBLIBPATH=/home/peter/opt/share/pcb/pcblib-newlib:/home/peter/opt/share/pcb/newlib Adding /home/peter/opt/share/pcb/newlib to the newlib search path Running command: gnetlist -g pcbpins -o beagle-daq.cmd beagle-daq.sch Running command: gnetlist -g PCB -o beagle-daq.net beagle-daq.sch Default m4-pcbdir: /home/peter/opt/share/pcb/pcb/m4 gnet-gsch2pcb-tmp.scm override file: (define m4-pcbdir /home/peter/opt/share/pcb/pcb/m4) (define gsch2pcb:use-m4 #t) Running command: gnetlist -g gsch2pcb -o beagle-daq.new.pcb -m gnet-gsch2pcb-tmp.scm beagle-daq.sch GPIO/U1: need new file element for footprint SSOP24 (value=unknown) psu/U1: need new file element for footprint SOT23-5 (value=unknown) Found: packages/m4/SOT23-5 psu/U1: added new file element for footprint SOT23-5 (value=unknown) U5: need new file element for footprint SSOP8 (value=unknown) U5: deleted element TSSOP-65P-640L1-8N (value=) U4: changed element TSSOP-65P-640L1-20N value: - unknown dac1/U1: changed element TSSOP-65P-640L1-16N value: - unknown U1: changed element TSSOP-65P-640L1-20N value: - unknown psu/U1: deleted element SOT23-95P-280L1-5N__LTC_S5_Package (value=) GPIO/U1: deleted element TSSOP-65P-640L1-24N (value=) U6: changed element TSSOP-65P-640L1-20N value: - unknown dac3/U1: changed element TSSOP-65P-640L1-16N value: - unknown U2: changed element TSSOP-65P-640L1-16N value: - unknown dac4/U1: changed element TSSOP-65P-640L1-16N value: - unknown dac2/U1: changed element TSSOP-65P-640L1-16N value: - unknown -- Done processing. Work performed: beagle-daq.pcb is backed up as beagle-daq.pcb.bak1. 3 elements deleted from beagle-daq.pcb. 1 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to beagle-daq.new.pcb. 8 elements had a value change in beagle-daq.pcb. 2 elements could not be found. So beagle-daq.new.pcb is incomplete. Next steps: 1. Run pcb on your file beagle-daq.pcb. 2. From within PCB, select File - Load layout data to paste buffer and select beagle-daq.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your existing layout. 3. From within PCB, select File - Load netlist file and select
Re: gEDA-user: Strange gsch2pcb error
On Friday 21 January 2011 00:32:29 Peter TB Brett wrote: Hi Ben, Works for me. See attached log. Now that I've installed PCB properly, I can reproduce the bug. It's *probably* a gEDA bug, so please file a bug report so that I remember to look at it after I've had some sleep. https://bugs.launchpad.net/geda/+filebug Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: .sch primitive ordering [was: Collaborative Development of Boards]
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 01:00:32 John Doty wrote: Example: Create square with solid background. Create smaller circle with hashed background, set to a different colour. Move circle on top of square. Obviously, if z-order is not preserved through save and load, this will be rendered incorrectly. See attached schematic. OK, that's a good point. But there's no easy way to control this in gschem. Is it a feature, or merely accident? Should there be pull forward and push backward commands? Yes, along with to back and to front commands. These are missing features, just like path drawing commands. To me, this is one of those capabilities that's totally utterly useless 99.9% of the time, but can't-finish-drawing-without-it the other 0.1%. If an alternative and obviously-superior algorithm for choosing drawing order was suggested, it wouldn't be a big deal to me. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Collaborative Development of Boards
On Monday 17 January 2011 08:01:53 ge...@igor2.repo.hu wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 08:22:02AM +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: ge...@igor2.repo.hu writes: If you edit one object, that won't ever move other objects around by side effect. VCS systems I know depend on this feature. I think PCB already provides this feature, keeping order of objects, Not really. When you edit a line, it somehow gets thrown into an entirely different slot in the list. Like if there is a vector of allocated slots, some marked unused, and when something is changed, it is thrown into the first unused slot. Probably some feature of some glib(?) container class? It's not too bad for vcs diffs, but could be a little better. Not worth the trouble to fix this, I guess. Hmm, maybe I mix it with something then. I recall some efforts, maybe by Peter to get this fixed in PCB or in gschem. Or else my memory just fails. Due to the way the gschem editing model works, and particularly the undo system, stuff tends to get shifted to the end of the file when edited. This is something that I've made a few improvements to in the past, but fundamentally the problem hasn't gone away. This is actually an extremely difficult problem to solve. Saving a file could be considered as mapping a three-dimensional space (x position, y position, z-index) onto a one-dimensional space (file position). At the moment, the file position is mapped 1:1 to z-index, i.e. last-on-top. Other possibilities (assuming that an alternative way of indicating z- ordering can be found) include defining a Hilbert-Peano curve on the x-y schematic plane and mapping position along that curve to file position. There is no easy fix here. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to set the margin for printing?
On Monday 17 January 2011 02:07:32 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Hi. The print dialog of gschem offers Extents with margins by default. This margin is larger than necessary or my printer. But no margin is too little. Is there a way to set the size of the margin? I couldn't find margin in system-gschemrc. Unfortunately, your current best bet is to export with no margins and then use a tool which can talk CUPS to shrink to the correct printer extents. As usual, I have a remarkable branch which makes gschem do this automagically, but it's nowhere near a usable state yet (i.e. there are many regressions and you *will* lose work if you use it). Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: .sch primitive ordering [was: Collaborative Development of Boards]
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 08:58:18 John Doty wrote: On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Due to the way the gschem editing model works, and particularly the undo system, stuff tends to get shifted to the end of the file when edited. This is something that I've made a few improvements to in the past, but fundamentally the problem hasn't gone away. This is actually an extremely difficult problem to solve. Saving a file could be considered as mapping a three-dimensional space (x position, y position, z-index) onto a one-dimensional space (file position). At the moment, the file position is mapped 1:1 to z-index, i.e. last-on-top. Other possibilities (assuming that an alternative way of indicating z- ordering can be found) include defining a Hilbert-Peano curve on the x-y schematic plane and mapping position along that curve to file position. There is no easy fix here. When it comes to gschem files, I believe there is a potentially useful compromise. The .sch file structure describes a tree. No. The very shallow, wide nature of a .sch file's (at most, if symbols are embedded) two level structure means that it's much more meaningful to consider it as a list. At each level in this tree the order of the branches does not matter. No. It does matter; the ordering indicates the draw order of primitives in any viewer or graphics exporter. Arguably, it shouldn't, but if not, the file format needs to be amended to provide this information in another way. So, a canonical ordering of a .sch file just requires some sorting criterion. Correct. I suggested one in my previous e-mail. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: .sch primitive ordering [was: Collaborative Development of Boards]
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 11:07:16 John Doty wrote: At each level in this tree the order of the branches does not matter. No. It does matter; the ordering indicates the draw order of primitives in any viewer or graphics exporter. Arguably, it shouldn't, but if not, the file format needs to be amended to provide this information in another way. But the draw order doesn't matter unless you're using an old-fashioned mechanical plotter. In any case, in gschem, merely cutting something and pasting it back in the same place changes the order, but this is rarely significant. For someone who is very defensive of features that you see as important, you are very quick to propose that those you don't care about are removed, aren't you? Example: Create square with solid background. Create smaller circle with hashed background, set to a different colour. Move circle on top of square. Obviously, if z-order is not preserved through save and load, this will be rendered incorrectly. See attached schematic. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre v 20110116 2 C 4 4 0 0 0 title-B.sym B 44500 48500 1000 1000 3 0 0 0 -1 -1 1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 V 45000 49000 500 8 0 0 0 -1 -1 2 1 0 200 90 200 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: .sch primitive ordering [was: Collaborative Development of Boards]
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 12:17:50 Karl Hammar wrote: Tibor: ... Maybe I oversimplify it, but I still suggesting having UUIDs. Long random numbers, like 256 bits, stored in hex. Whenever a new object appears, generate a new one. Whenever an object is transformed, keep the UUID. When saving, order objects numerically by UUID (within each level, if the save file is not flat). ... Thoose UUID might not be what a person that edit thoose files by hand wants. Yes, it's often useful that the file-format makes it trivial to copy and paste bits of schematic around. I like it. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 08:10:24 Stephan Boettcher wrote: al davis ad...@freeelectron.net writes: How about prefixing simulation attributes with a dot. No, please, use a proper namespace prefix, like spice- verilog- sim- spice: verilog: sim: Backend namespaces, use namespaces, with fallbacks into legacy and global namespaces. spice-value= sim-value= value= This looks good to me, although I would suggest using a '.' as the separator, since I think it makes sense to keep '-' available as a character usable in normal attribute names. Also because being able to have a toplevel attribute: spice-sdb.fix-my-netlist-please=yes is a required feature. :-P Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: FYI [Fwd: [Balloon] Balloon 4]
On Monday 17 January 2011 18:30:35 Steve Wiseman wrote: Or should I fire up gEDA on something smaller and less visible first? Anyone want to hold my hand while I do it? Smaller and less visible, first, I would say, if only so that you can get a feel for whether gEDA/pcb lacks features *required* for the B4 design before committing to it. I do think it would be really useful to let Peter C sit in with you for a few hours just watching you work with Altium, too. Not only would that be valuable from the perspective of improving gEDA, but also from the point of view of determining whether gEDA can do what you need. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Rant about Make Inv Text Vis
On Sunday 16 January 2011 17:22:06 Peter Clifton wrote: On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 08:03 -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:47:19 + Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Are there any use-cases for invisible text which is not an attribute? Since it might exist already though - we MAY have to add an: Invisble [x] option to the text edit dialogue box. I often include lines or even paragraphs of invisible text in my custom symbols to thoroughly document specific details, design rationale, etc. Through what mechanism do you make that text invisible? As an attribute? Select the text and press t t. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Rant about Make Inv Text Vis
Consider it napalmed. Napalmed ain't enough - I want that option *nuked* (from orbit yet). It's the only way to be sure. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Rant about Make Inv Text Vis
- Original message - What is the point of the command Make Inv Text Vis in gschem, other than aggravating me. Good question. I'm not aware of a use-case for it either. At the very least, it should be undo-able. Please file a bug report. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bug in [ctrl-a]
- Original message - Hi. In git head, there is a new feature to select all with [ctrl-a]. Under specific circumstances, visible attributes move at double pace compared to the rest of the symbol. To reproduce: That sounds like a bug in moving to me. Did you file bug report? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 02:46:40 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: • gsch2pcb wart: The net of input/output symbols is evaluated from its refdes. Consequently, the restrictions to refdeses apply: No uncapitalized suffix, no hyphen, etc. Proposal: evaluate the net from dedicated attributes. E.g. in-net=, out-net= gnetlist missing feature, nothing to do with gsch2pcb. Well, from a user point of view, the separation is blurry. How can we make it less blurry? • gschem feature request: Sort attributes in multiple attributes dialog. The most frequent ones should be on top. Most frequent determined how? How about: Like the drop-down list of default attributes the add Attribute line presents. netname footprint value refdes source ... I guess, this order was determined by intuition of a developer long time ago. Suggestion: take this list as a default order for the list of attributes. Make this default configurable in gschemrc. Ouups, this is another feature request ;^) It's configurable in system-gschemrc. Sorting request doesn't seem unreasonable. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 00:03:50 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: • geda documentation: There is no wiki page for gsch2pcb. Best bet is http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gsch2pcb I just added `man gsch2pcb', by the way. But not to the wiki. BTW, copying the manpages into the wiki is a bad thing. Don't do it, please. • gsch2pcb wart: The net of input/output symbols is evaluated from its refdes. Consequently, the restrictions to refdeses apply: No uncapitalized suffix, no hyphen, etc. Proposal: evaluate the net from dedicated attributes. E.g. in-net=, out-net= gnetlist missing feature, nothing to do with gsch2pcb. • gschem feature request: Sort attributes in multiple attributes dialog. The most frequent ones should be on top. Most frequent determined how? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Browsing the source code...
- Original message - I just noticed on the gEDA Launchpad page (https://code.launchpad.net/geda) that it says: You can browse the source code for the development focus branch or get a copy of the branch using the command: bzr branch lp:geda Shouldn't that be git clone git://git.gpleda.org/gaf.git Yes, it should. For some reson that I can't remember off the top of my head, we've got a bzr branch on Launchpad (Launchpad only supports bzr) which tracks the master branch of gaf.git. Unfortunately we don't have any control over the text which appears on that page. :-( Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Accessing the repository using anonymous CVS
On Sunday 09 January 2011 17:51:48 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: There used to be a CVS mirror of the git repo. The wiki still points to it but notes, it is currently offline: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:scm?#committing_patches_from_other_contribu tors Is this access supposed to be working anytime soon? As I understand it, the CVS mirror has now been permanently shut down. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage
On Sunday 09 January 2011 19:07:37 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: For full triage you have to be a member of the bug team (geda-bugs, or pcb-bugs). Else, you get no edit buttons next to the importance button. I'd expect, that this is configurable and the status can also be made inaccessible to simple users (Peter C., is this so?) No, you need to be a bug contact or owner of the project, and that is not configurable. Hmm, I also meant the opposite: Is is it possible to make the status inaccessible to users not in a special group? Just in case some status edit war is creeping up... If a status edit war occurs, bug status to be set to Opinion? ;-) Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Launchpad: pcb next-bug-release
On Saturday 08 January 2011 10:16:48 Bert Timmerman wrote: Hi all, On https://launchpad.net/pcb/+milestone/next-bug-release I see some bugs marked with the status fix-released. IMO these should aleady be included in the latest release of pcb (20100929) and not in the list for the pending bug release, or should have the status fix commited. Could anyone please give some clarification ? Let us avoid unnecessary rework on the status of bugs before these bugs drop out of sight. Yes, as I understand it they should have the status fix committed if the fixes haven't yet appeared in a release. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage
On Saturday 08 January 2011 19:33:40 Gareth Edwards wrote: On 8 January 2011 19:28, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 19:16 +, Gareth Edwards wrote: Does it make sense to move (other peoples) Wishlist items to Confirmed, or just leave them as New? Just thinking these might be a lot more subjective than bug reports. I'd suggest that anyone who also wishes the same should tick the bug affects me option, so we get an idea of the demand. That feature was designed to avoid lots of ME TOO, +1 comments on bugs. Perhaps leave the status update for developers who are sufficiently familiar with the design issues to decide if the wishlist item is a Confirmed, WontFix or Opinion. Yes, this sound like a good process. Think it's worthwhile me trying to capture the process on the wiki somewhere or is it transient until we complete the first pass of the migration? It's spread over 3 or 4 email threads now and my email filing sucks. :) Yes, it is definitely worthwhile to try and capture the process on the wiki somewhere! Very much so! Please do! Peter :-) -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage
On Saturday 08 January 2011 21:26:59 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Gareth Edwards wrote: Think it's worthwhile me trying to capture the process on the wiki somewhere IMHO, bug reporting is worth a dedicated page in the wiki. I just started one at: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:howto_report_bugs?#bug_trackers Feel free to add a section on bug triage and etiquette. BTW, there about 100 links to source forge in the wiki http://geda.seul.org/wiki/?do=searchid=sourceforge Many of them are obsolete since pcb and now also the bug trackers have moved somewhere else. I'll try to catch them... Note that http://bugs.launchpad.net/geda/+bug/sf-bugnum links to the bug which had ID bugnum on Sourceforge. This is useful. ;-) Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage
On Saturday 08 January 2011 22:44:48 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Gareth Edwards wrote: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:bug_triage_guide Nice. Would you object against a merge with Howto report bugs? I don't think that one is really needed -- reporting bugs and triaging bugs are different jobs. For instance, a large part of the triage guide is about what to set importances and statuses to in different situations, whereas for a reporter, their bug should always start out as New and Undecided. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage
On Saturday 08 January 2011 23:31:43 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter TB Brett wrote: Nice. Would you object against a merge with Howto report bugs? I don't think that one is really needed -- reporting bugs and triaging bugs are different jobs. Sure, but I'd like to: 1) not spread bug reporting advice all over the site like we currently do. 2) suggest, that someone, who reports a bug may also confirm others. I imagine, this works better, if the triage 3) have a single page for all bug related issues. This page can be linked to from many other pages. (And potentially from the manuals). Well, it's up to you. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage
On Friday 07 January 2011 10:14:19 Peter Clifton wrote: Grab git HEAD of whichever package the bug is in (if you don't have it already), and try to confirm whether the bug is still present or not. Bug present: New - Confirmed Bug absent: Make a comment - set bug to Invalid, Fix released, or Incomplete... depending on how confident you are that the bug was bogus, fixed by some commit since the bug reported, or Incomplete if you ask the reporter a question which requires answering. Please use Fix released only if the fix has been in a released version (the latest release was 1.6.1). Otherwise, use Fix committed. Thanks for any help you can give me in ploughing through the backlog! Peter P.S. It is not good form to set your own bug reports to Confirmed. :-P -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage
On Friday 07 January 2011 20:55:31 Colin D Bennett wrote: On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:22:53 + Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk wrote: Please use Fix released only if the fix has been in a released version (the latest release was 1.6.1). Otherwise, use Fix committed. Is there any special tag or status indicator I can use for a bug which has a working bugfix patch attached? It seems like bugs with a confirmed fix should be given high priority to get the fix committed to HEAD. I am speaking presently about https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/699498 which has a working patch that I have been using myself for some time. Well, the usual thing to do in that case is to complain on the mailing list, in which case a bug administrator (such as myself) may well go and find someone to nag about it. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: origin/master ... origin/stable-1.6 ?
On Saturday 08 January 2011 02:02:38 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
Hi Peter B, Peter C.
Just noted that git fetch of git://git.gpleda.org/gaf reports
two branches. origin/master and origin/stable-1.6 . What is the
significance of these? Where should I look for the brave new features
that get pushed in the aftermath of the move from sourceforge to
launchpad?
I've pushed some patches to the 1.6.x branch ('stable-1.6') in preparation for
1.6.2. There are no new features or bugfixes in the 1.6.x branch, only
backports of bugfixes already present in the unstable ('master') branch.
Sorry to disappoint,
Peter
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gEDA-user: SourceForge bug trackers frozen
Hi folks, In case you're wondering where the gEDA/gaf bug trackers at SourceForge.net have disappeared to, they've been shut down so that no new changes occur while Peter C gets the bugs imported to their new home at Launchpad.net. The conversion has now been completed, and we're just waiting for Launchpad admins to run the import process: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/140410 N.b. the PCB bug tracker is unaffected. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Launchpad up running [was: SourceForge bug trackers frozen]
On Thursday 06 January 2011 16:38:59 Peter TB Brett wrote: Hi folks, In case you're wondering where the gEDA/gaf bug trackers at SourceForge.net have disappeared to, they've been shut down so that no new changes occur while Peter C gets the bugs imported to their new home at Launchpad.net. The conversion has now been completed, and we're just waiting for Launchpad admins to run the import process: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/140410 Import done. The new place to find gEDA bugs is: http://bugs.launchpad.net/geda Note that it's possible to associate a Launchpad account with all your imported bugs by merging your account with the automatically created virtual account from Sourceforge. You can get access to this by clicking on your name in a bug report (Kai-Martin, I'm *certain* you'll want to make use of this feature. ;-) ) Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: [PATCH] gsch2pcb: Add `outline' layer to default PCB template.
Hi Kai-Martin, Could you please test this patch and see if it does what you had in mind? Thanks, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre From 69c00410599bbd1580e2c353553c4d63a99f0f3d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:29:39 + Subject: [PATCH] gsch2pcb: Add `outline' layer to default PCB template. Adds the `outline' (board physical outline) layer to the default PCB template used by `gsch2pcb' when initially creating a .pcb file for a design. Requested by Kai Martin Knaak k...@lilalaser.de. --- gnetlist/scheme/gnet-gsch2pcb.scm.in |7 --- 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/gnetlist/scheme/gnet-gsch2pcb.scm.in b/gnetlist/scheme/gnet-gsch2pcb.scm.in index afe0251..0442ac4 100644 --- a/gnetlist/scheme/gnet-gsch2pcb.scm.in +++ b/gnetlist/scheme/gnet-gsch2pcb.scm.in @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ (display Thermal[0.50]\n port) (display DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]\n port) (display Flags(\nameonpcb,uniquename,clearnew,snappin\)\n port) -(display Groups(\1,c:2,s:3:4:5:6:7:8\)\n port) +(display Groups(\1,c:2,s:3:4:5:6:7:8:9\)\n port) (display Styles[\Signal,1000,3600,2000,1000: port) (display Power,2500,6000,3500,1000: port) (display Fat,4000,6000,3500,1000: port) @@ -58,8 +58,9 @@ (display Layer(6 \signal1\)\n(\n)\n port) (display Layer(7 \signal2\)\n(\n)\n port) (display Layer(8 \signal3\)\n(\n)\n port) -(display Layer(9 \silk\)\n(\n)\n port) -(display Layer(10 \silk\)\n(\n) port) +(display Layer(9 \outline\)\n(\n)\n port) +(display Layer(10 \silk\)\n(\n)\n port) +(display Layer(11 \silk\)\n(\n) port) (newline port))) ;; -- 1.7.0.1.138.ga75b pgpdQ6RH4cj8Y.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes from components with multiple symbol instances.
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 16:32:48 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter TB Brett wrote: Well, no, because you will now get a BIG FAT WARNING every time you run gnetlist. You mean, I will receive this big fat warning for every symbol I attach more than one comment to? Why not try it and find out? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes from components with multiple symbol instances.
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 17:49:50 John Doty wrote: WARNING: Trying to rename something twice: X2/GND and X2/GND are both a src and dest name This warning is okay if you have multiple levels of hierarchy! I've never known this warning to actually indicate a problem with a design. :-( Both gnetlist and gschem generate a ridiculous quantity of useless chatter, unfortunately. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes from components with multiple symbol instances.
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 18:38:04 John Doty wrote: They're not especially bad. In that project make clean; make generates 2074 lines of chatter, only about 1/3 of them from gschem and gnetlist. The worst offender is pdflatex. You can see how a warning could easily be lost. That doesn't make it okay to deliberately break designs which currently work, even if you don't think they deserve to. ;-) How about patching `gnetlist' to make less noise? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Conflicting attributes (was: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes ...)
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 19:04:37 John Doty wrote: On Jan 5, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2011 18:38:04 John Doty wrote: They're not especially bad. In that project make clean; make generates 2074 lines of chatter, only about 1/3 of them from gschem and gnetlist. The worst offender is pdflatex. You can see how a warning could easily be lost. That doesn't make it okay to deliberately break designs which currently work, even if you don't think they deserve to. ;-) Is there any evidence that there are any? In any case, in other areas of computing it is considered OK for behavior to change between versions of a tool for cases when the input is ambiguous. It's not like changing the default attribute promotion policy: that wasn't ambiguous. No, but there wasn't any evidence that that would actually break users either. Now, I would *very much* like to see this ambiguosity cleared up, but as part of a holistic strategy to make attributes clearer and easier to process in an automated and deterministic manner. 1) Decide if we wish to continue to allow multiple values for the same attribute in the same context (c.f. 'net=' vs 'refdes= behaviour in previous discussion), and document this. 2) Decide which (if any) attributes should be reserved for the implementation, i.e. have their semantics strictly prescribed rather than being free-form, and document this. For example, we may wish to prescribe the merging behaviour of 'refdes=', but also add an 'id=' attribute that if present on a symbol *must* be unique within design. 3) Determine which (if any) widely-used attributes can no longer work in the same way as a result of the previous decisions, fully document the changes, and create an automated tool to find problems in existing designs and automatically update them. If we are *not* going to be backwards compatible, we should actually try and do some *design* and come up with an approach that's both well-documented and reasonably future-proof. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gschem usability: expand the component tree after filtering
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 08:59:26 Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz wrote: 2011/1/4 kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de: +1 Every click that can be avoided for common tasks adds to the productivity. I hope, this patch will be accepted. Thanks to cooperation with Peter B it is already accepted. Yes, I am being very proactive at the moment about giving prompt detailed feedback to patch submitters, and I am working with them to get patches ready quickly. :-) And Krzysztof's patch was obviously a good idea anyway. :-) Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: DRC Problem
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 16:24:26 Dan Quist wrote: Hello, I have a problem with the DRC check. In the included file, is Drc_maker.sh which when run will result in a stack overflow: Hi Dan, This is a known issue with the 1.6.x versions of the DRC2 backend. It is fixed in the git version of gEDA, which also has a number of other enhancements. Alternatively, as a workaround you can expand the Guile stack. See: http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq- gnetlist#some_gnetlist_backends_overflow_the_stack_how_do_i_solve_this Oh dear, that page is a bit out of date... :-( Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes from components with multiple symbol instances.
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 17:45:29 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Patrick Bernaud wrote: This commit introduces 'gnetlist:get-all-package-attributes' to retrieve every first attribute value for package consisting of multiple symbol instances. So this resolves one of the more annoying warts with multiple symbol components. :-) However, a less severe wart remains: In case of multiple values for the same attribute, the output still depends on the order the symbols were added to the schematics. This may lead to unexpected, seemingly unreproducible results. Well, no, because you will now get a BIG FAT WARNING every time you run gnetlist. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Shutting down SourceForge trackers for migration to Launchpad
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 18:07:21 Peter Clifton wrote: I have discussed the plans for migration quite openly, and have had input and/or feedback from most developers on the two projects. If moving over at some point during the next couple of days causes anyone a problem, please let me know as soon as possible. Hi Peter, This plan seems good. Please make sure you notify just before you take the SF.net trackers read-only! Thanks, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Symbol question – suggestions?
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 20:42:28 Stephan Boettcher wrote: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: I created this symbol, it's the 74-series version of the 4066 (4 bilateral switches), called 744066 (as in 74LV4066, for example): Symbol /Symbol The documentation of the symbol can be found at http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74lv4066a.pdf I am not sure I got the pin numbers right (or how to use pinseq vs pinnumber). The slot attribute does not get promoted. Why can't I promote an attribute after placement from the (ee) Element attribute edit window? I just tried this. I placed a symbol, hit e e, right-clicked on the inherited attribute that I wanted to promote, and selected Promote. Does this not work for you? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Does Google do not like us any more?
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 22:55:39 Stefan Salewski wrote: From time to time I have problems finding my own geda postings again. Just tried a google search for site:archives.seul.org Boettcher huge mess Gives no results for me -- should give http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Dec-2010/msg00491.html Is there a better way for searching? Have you tried GMANE? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes (was: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager)
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 00:42:07 John Doty wrote: On Jan 4, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Matthew Wilkins wrote: What are typical use cases for having multiple same-named attributes in a symbol? A slotted symbol generally needs multiple slotdef attributes. A hierarchical symbol will have multiple source attributes if its underlying schematic has multiple pages. And nobody knows what other use cases there are, or may be in the future. You should make as few assumptions about how people will use attributes as practical. One of the problems we have at the moment is that sometimes attributes in the schematic override attributes in the symbol, and sometimes they don't. Example 1. Suppose I have a refdes=A? attribute in a symbol. I instantiate the symbol in a schematic, and attach a refdes=A1 attribute to the instantiated symbol. gnetlist (etc) will use refdes=A1. This is overriding behaviour. Example 2. Suppose I have a net=Vcc:1 attribute in a symbol. I instantiate the symbol in a schematic, and attach a net=Vdd:1 attribute to the instantiated symbol. gnetlist will short Vcc to Vdd and connect pin 1 to the shorted net. This is aggregation behaviour. The problem with this is inconsistency. IMHO it would be better to have overriding behaviour *only*, because in the longer term being able to reliably override attributes would particularly be helpful in doing things like hierarchical back-annotation and parameterised subcircuits (the latter would be awesome for ASIC design applications, for instance). As far as I can tell, everything that can be achieved with aggregation behaviour can be achieved with overriding behaviour, but not the other way around. Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager
Can you set up a git repository of pcb with your patches applied? (The way Peter Clifton makes his GL-enabled version of pcb available to potential testers) This patch is on my list of things to look at when I get home in a couple of hours -- it seems like a good idea in principle, so hopefully we can get it merged sooner rather than later. FWIW I think the existing code has been broken for a while, unfortunately, so to have someone looking at this is quite welcome! Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/3] Quick testcase for patch #3071482.
On Sunday 02 January 2011 17:19:23 Patrick Bernaud wrote: [snip] 2 files changed, 169 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 tests/testcase.sch create mode 100644 tests/testcase.scm diff --git a/tests/testcase.sch b/tests/testcase.sch [snip] Hi Patrick, Where exactly is this patch supposed to be applied...? Or is it purely for informational purposes? Thanks, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?
On Friday 24 December 2010 10:12:42 timecop wrote: But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX? Because you just ruled out the remaining 1% of people who even wanted to help with writing any kinda documentation. Wrong. I much prefer writing LaTeX to writing wiki syntax. Also, diagrams are so much nicer (thank you TikZ!) Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…
On Friday 24 December 2010 10:27:20 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Den 2010-12-24 00:53:38 skrev Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de: On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 00:38 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 00:31 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Value: → Enter ”390k”. Does it look nice? It certainly does not on my system. Am I doing this right at all? Ah, now I understand you problem: You want to place the text inside the box of the (german) rectangular resister box. Is it German? I didn't know that. That's the symbol I've used all my life (I'm Swedish). Thought it was at least European standard (IEC) or something. You're correct, it's an international standard, not restricted to Germany; box resistors are the standard symbol in the UK too. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Test import of gEDA + PCB bugs on Launchpad
On Wednesday 22 Dec 2010 11:40:39 Peter Clifton wrote: After much hard work, manual tweaking, and even a patch to Launchpad (rolling out onto production servers soon)... I've got something for people to PLAY WITH!: https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/pcb https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/geda Also, everybody should remember that the data from SF.net isn't up-to-date, so some tracker items currently on SF won't appear here. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block
On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: When I open a new page, a ”title block” is all I see, and there I can read things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed to fill that in by using the Text tool ...? Yes! That's what I do, anyway. Other people have other ways of doing it, I'm sure. :-) Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Duplicate messages and mailing list To: address
On Monday 20 December 2010 18:38:55 Colin D Bennett wrote: I'm getting all the replies to Kai-Martin Knaak's messages twice. It looks like it has something to do with K-M's messages having a To: field of geda-u...@seul.org while everyone else's has geda-user@moria.seul.org, causing the replies to have an extra Cc: address of geda-u...@seul.org. Is everyone else getting the duplicates? Yes. I believe that, last time we looked into it, it turned out to be a bug (or possibly mis-feature, can't remember) in Evolution. I think. It helps if, when writing list e-mails, people manually quickly check that only one geda-user e-mail address is in the recipients list. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Guile/gschem problem
On Saturday 18 December 2010 20:32:11 Eduardo Costa wrote: Hi guys, I'm trying to compile the suite, but while it does so, I get this infamous error when trying to start gschem: The suite currently only works with Guile 1.8.x. The last time I saw this error, it was when I tried compiling against Guile 1.9.x. Are you running Gentoo? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Guile/gschem problem
On Saturday 18 December 2010 20:43:41 Eduardo Costa wrote: Thanks Peter for your quick answer!, No. Mine's a custom made distro (sort of `linux from scratch') I made years ago and have been updating by hand as it takes place, although I doubt that's the problem. I always run into troubles when trying to compile geda, related to the software itself (inter-dependencies, etc), though as time goes by things are looking much better. There shouldn't be any interdependencies any more when building gEDA. If you come across a problem with the build system that's obviously a bug, let me know -- I'm interested in fixing such things. :-) Cheers, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
In any case, it seems to me that the user should get an error message (from spice-sdb) in this case, as an explicit ? here means that the user has neither set the attribute to something useful nor deleted it as irrelevant. So what you are saying is that you think we should get rid of the WTF? function in the code, but not modify the symbol library? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre - Original message - On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:29 PM, c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: I'm not sure we're on the same page here. That pice of legacy code is what we want to remove. We don't want any code to reinterpret attributes. For the short term we would like to change a few probramatic symbols so we don't have to have special cases in the code. But the ? is there to tell you, when looking at the symbol in gschem, that you *need* to edit the attribute (I use those symbols a lot). I'm puzzled here, because I thought Stuart was the author of both spice-sdb and the symbols in question, so the WTF? is strange. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
To fix it in a uniform way I think we need to standardise what we use as a place holder for an attribute. Sould we explicitly put unknown or ?? Unfortunitly gschem won't let you put a null string. Hi Clif, Since at the moment gnetlist internally uses the string unknown to indicate a missing attribute, so that would be the logical choice to use instead of ? at this time. In the longer term, I would actually quite like it to be legal to have attributes with zero-length values. However, that would obviously be a more complicated patch. I think that the spice-sdb backend should continue to choke on blah=? attributes, for now. Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre - Original message - Hi Gang, This is about a patch I submitted a while back because myself and others didn't understand the souce of the ?. Patrick found it though. They are from the spice A.. blocks. The value of some of the unpromoted attributes are ?. Apparently they are place holders to remind someone to add real values in the same way R? is a place holder for a refdes. The other choice is to not list attributes without useable values, but then you don't have the reminder of which ones to fill in. This gets used like a short version of the add attribute drop down menu, however you have to click on show inherited attributes to see them. Though most people don't do that and then wonder where the errors come from. ;-) If neither of those choices sound good then I have an off the wall one. We could allow null value attributes which are always promoted so you would see them, and this would be a poor mans form in which you have the option of providing their values, or even deleting them. Get-package-attribute would return unknown for attributes which exist but have null values. Any thoughts? Clif ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING
Before this deteriorates into a my software is better than your software contest, can I suggest that we try to keep things on-topic? An excellent suggestion. Peter :-( -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
On Thursday 16 December 2010 20:43:23 c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: Ok so we toss current patch in 3114991. Done. Should I make a new one that replaces all the ? in symbols / blocks with unknown? That sounds like a good idea, actually. If spice-sdb should choke on any remaining ? it runs across, then I guess my second patch (3117075) is good to go. Did you see my e-mail from last Thursday? I've forwarded it in this e-mail in case you missed it. There are a couple of things I wouldn't mind changed, if possible. It seems that another example of attribute placeholders is the footprint=none convention. The zero-length values feature might allow us to clean up other special cases as well. Possibly, yes. Thanks for your work on this. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ---BeginMessage--- Hi Clif, Firstly, patch 3114991 (get-package-attribute sometimes returns ?). Two important things: a) If there is not actually a text object attached to a part with the value file=? attribute somewhere, we have a problem. gnetlist/libgeda really shouldn't be manufacturing attributes with the value ?. A proper fix really needs to get to the bottom of why this is happening. b) The name behaviour of that C function will be completely changing in the next few days, so your patch won't apply (see patch 3071482 -- I am currently working with the author to finalise this). I can't accept this patch in its current form, sorry. If you don't have time to track down where the ? values are coming from, please file a bug and I'll try and figure it out at some point. Secondly, patch 3117075 (spice-sdb -- Several fixes / Cleanups). a) Please split whitespace changes into a separate patch which *only* changes whitespace. I personally avoid touching whitespace if possible. ;-) Actually, this patch would have been better split into a series of patches, each of which does one particular clean-up... b) Syntax for `define' when defining functions. Here's something I wrote yesterday: I would greatly appreciate it if the implicit lambda form of `define' was used in all new code, i.e.: (define (allsame? x) (null? (delete (car x) (cdr x This is preferred in new Scheme code because it eliminates a set of braces and an additional keyword, while being unambiguous. Additionally, this syntax means that the second s-expression in the definition matches the prototype of the function, which aids in documentation. Finally, the implicit `define' form supports docstrings, which although we don't currently use, we may well use in the future. c) `spice-sdb:filter-map'. I'm not sure I understand why you can't just use `filter-map'...? d) Changes to prototype of `spice-sdb:write-net-names-on-component' seem sensible. e) `get-net-name' modifies its argument. Looking at the code, it's not clear to me why this is actually necessary -- could you explain, please? :-) Thanks! Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ---End Message--- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: TRACKERS [was: Re: gEDA-dev: Dev list [was: Random thoughts onthe future interface of PCB]]
On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:06:06 Peter Clifton wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 21:22 +0100, Bert Timmerman wrote: ... gEDA and friends can even keep the SF tracker system ... Actually, I have been looking quite seriously at the possibility of ditching SF trackers and moving all the history of bugs to Launchpad. I can do a fairly lossless export, and I'm working on fixing some issues with the Launchpad bug import code to be able to translate any bug numbers embedded in the bug comments. Nothing is decided yet.. beyond verifying that it is technically feasible, I want to know that all the current developers buy in (or at least consent) to a move. Launchpad being properly open source now removes one potentially strong argument against its adoption, but no doubt there will be people who dislike it for other reasons, or trust SourceForge more than Canonical. I'd welcome feedback from people who actively encounter and report bugs (especially in favour of the move ;)). I'd also welcome feedback from anyone who works with bug reports, test patches, merge code etc... (Doesn't have to be with gEDA / PCB, anything regarding Launchpad / SourceForge). Launchpad seems to have a number of advantages of SF.net, including the ability to easily mark duplicate bugs and link bugs to a particular branch. But it also does simple, easy things better -- for example, it actually sends the right content type for attachments to the browser. It even has sensible URLs for bugs. You can also assign groups of people to a bug, as an alternative to individual developers. My main objection to Launchpad in the past was that it was closed-source, but now that that has been changed... it's hard to find a reason not to use it for bug tracking instead of SF.net. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Dev list [was: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB]
On Thursday 09 Dec 2010 09:35:53 Stephan Boettcher wrote: DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: If you want to become a PCB committer, the process starts by writing good patches, reviewing other people's patches, and being involved in design discussions. When it gets to the point where the maintainers are just checking in whatever you ask, you're in :-) Well, obviously, this path was tried, but requires too much patience to be successful. And then there is that closed gEDA-dev list. How can the above work when the dev list is closed? If I remember correctly, a major factor in the closure of the gEDA-dev list was that the signal to noise ratio became very low. There were several people, few of whom *ever* submitted patches, loudly and rudely telling the people who *were* writing code and having ideas how their approach was wrong, the design was wrong, their ideas were wrong, how dare you change anything, you *must* do it *my* way, etc etc etc. It got to the point that it was actively *hindering* development, because it was very off-putting to the actual developers. Although the discussions on gEDA-dev are less frequent now, at least they are usually quite constructive. Perhaps the time has come to reconsider the role of and access to the gEDA-dev list? How can we ensure that it doesn't collapse into an unproductive bikeshedfest again? Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Small patch to aid use of lib dmalloc
On Monday 06 Dec 2010 13:31:09 Peter Clifton wrote: I did loose some respect for the dmalloc author(s) when I noticed on their page they can't spell Microsoft Windows correctly. Windoze In general, valgrind (probably not even conceived of when dmalloc was first written), is a much more useful tool for memory leak diagnosis, so I wouldn't go _too_ far out of our way to make things dmalloc suitable. Seconding this -- valgrind / memcheck is absolutely excellent, and generally gives much better results than dmalloc in my experience. For example, I recently had to debug a program where I requested memory directly from the operating system using mmap(), and Valgrind's support for tracking use of uninitialised memory turned out to be invaluable. Callgrind is also very helpful. :-) Cheers, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
On Thursday 02 December 2010 21:13:47 Bob Paddock wrote: Peter, while all of this sounds great, could we fix the collective problems that we have now first? Like what, specifically? Scrap straight line rats in favour of using the topological auto-router? Do different rat lines help ship products? Not that I see. To me that is the criteria for any feature. Does Peter C's OpenGL renderer help ship products? Not that I see, but it make PCB a hell of a lot of a more pleasant experience to use. Peter (B) -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: New autorouter high effort mode
On Wednesday 01 December 2010 12:51:41 Kovacs Levente wrote: On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:53:38 +1100 Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com wrote: For my HE autorouter hack I have in mind to fork() off extra processes so that all of my CPU cores can run separate autorouter instances. As HE has an unbounded run time I'm thinking that the main PCB process should simply hang on to the UI to serve occasional display update requests from the other processes, and to kill off the auto routing processes on user command. I think it is enough to make multiple threads. They can run on different CPU cores. But I'm not usre. On Linux and most BSDs, fork() with shared memory is actually cheaper than threading, and much much easier to implement. Unfortunately, that is not true on Windows, where fork() is *very* expensive. So most people use threads. :-/ Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 11:09:34 timecop wrote: With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter... Even this single sentence contains so many factual inaccuracies and completely incorrect assumptions that I can't work out where best to start refuting it. Peter ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: current working file name in gschemrc
On Friday 19 November 2010 12:22:05 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: I'd like to replace this with the name of the schematic. The lp command can set the base name of the file with the option -t. But how would I teach gschemrc to automatically fill in the file name of the current schematic? Is there some way to access the file name like this: (print-command lp -d PDF -t $CURRENTFILENAME) Hi Kai-Martin, You will be pleased to hear that this is doable without my Scheme API branch. But everything Paul Tan has told you so far has been wrong. :-( What we're going to do is to override the Scheme function that is called to show the print window, so that it first resets the print-command with the filename of the current file. You'll need to add the following to your gschemrc: (define %file-print file-print) (define (file-print) (print-command (format #f lp -d PDF -t \~A\ (get-selected-filename))) (gschem-use-rc-values) (%file-print)) It is horrible and nasty, but it seems to work. Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist crash
On Saturday 13 November 2010 11:44:15 Levente Kovacs wrote: On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:24:06 +0100 Patrick Bernaud patri...@chez.com wrote: Could you please post the files of your project (directly to to the list or in private to the address above if you prefer)? Ok, I solved the problem. The problem was that there was an empty value attribute attached to one of my symbol. That is bad, but gnetlist should not crash. Could you please post a bug to the bug tracker, so we don't forget about this? Thanks, Peter ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gschem pin numbers
On Saturday 13 November 2010 18:03:10 Stefan Salewski wrote: or you may try the new scheme API of Peter TB Brett, mentioned some weeks ago on this list. As an example of how gschem plugins can be written using this API, the attached `hide-pinseq.scm' file is a plugin for hiding all pinseq attributes on the current page. Hi Stefan, This is actually a piece of code for changing pins in bulk *while editing a symbol*. So it (or something similar) may be useful while doing what John suggested. :-) Peter ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist crash
On Friday 12 November 2010 23:37:18 Levente Kovacs wrote: Hi all, I could make gnetlist crash with the following command: gnetlist -q -g gsch2pcb -o pcb/if_card.new.pcb -m gnet- gsch2pcb-tmp.scm sch/if_card.sch sch/ps.sch Hi, Are you able to narrow it down to a minimal testcase at all? Also, the stack trace would be more helpful if you installed the - dbg packages for libguile and libc. I'm not sure how to do that on Debian, I'm afraid. Thanks! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929
On Wednesday 10 November 2010 21:20:54 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Frank Bergmann wrote: Try ./configure --disable-dbus or try installing package libdbus-1-dev This is a common experience with the configure stage of geda and pcb. The script complains about a missing library even though the library is installed. What the script really misses is the but what it really misses is the header file of the lib. In Debian related distros these files tend be packaged separately in foobar-dev. Would it be possible to change the error message accordingly? Or, y'know, people could try reading the README file, in which it clearly states: Troubleshooting dependencies I've installed the `libfoo' library, but `./configure' isn't picking it up! Many modern operating system distributions split a library into two packages: 1. a `libfoo' package, which contains the files necessary to *run* programs which use `libfoo'. 2. a `libfoo-dev' or `libfoo-devel' package, which contains the files necessary to *compile* programs which use `libfoo'. If you're having problems, make sure that you have all of the necessary `dev' or `devel' packages installed. How about it, then? The file is named README for a reason. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:32:33 +, Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk wrote: On Wednesday 10 November 2010 21:20:54 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Frank Bergmann wrote: Try ./configure --disable-dbus or try installing package libdbus-1-dev This is a common experience with the configure stage of geda and pcb. The script complains about a missing library even though the library is installed. What the script really misses is the but what it really misses is the header file of the lib. In Debian related distros these files tend be packaged separately in foobar-dev. Would it be possible to change the error message accordingly? Or, y'know, people could try reading the README file, in which it clearly states: Ignore me, I'm an idiot. Y'all are talking about PCB, not gEDA. Sorry! Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Using the Scheme API: an example!
Hi folks,
Here's a nice example of what can be done with the Scheme API even in its
incomplete state. The attached plugin for gschem improves on gschem's
built-in code for selecting a whole net (double-clicking on a net) by
recognising and following netname= attributes. [1]
To run it, check out and install my `guile-scheme-api' branch by following
the instructions in my original e-mail:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.geda.user/33328
If you've already done this, you'll need to update it with `git pull' and
recompile/reinstall it.
Download the attached files (`select-whole-net.scm' and
`select-whole-net.sch') and create a gschemrc file with the following
contents:
;; Load select-whole-net plugin
(load select-whole-net.scm)
Open `select-whole-net.sch' in gschem, and select a single net segment.
Then use the Scheme prompt to run:
(select-whole-selected-net)
I hope this interesting useful example will inspire you all to using this
stuff to do cool things. ;-)
Peter
[1] Extending this plugin to recognise and handle net= attributes on
symbols is left as an exercise to the reader.
--
Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk
Remote Sensing Research Group
Surrey Space Centrev 20100214 2
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{
T 43000 49100 5 10 1 1 0 0 1
netname=foo
}
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N 45000 47000 43000 47000 4
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{
T 45500 49100 5 10 1 1 0 0 1
netname=foo
}
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N 47500 47000 45500 47000 4
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{
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netname=bar
}
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;; Select the whole of a net in gschem
;; Copyright (C) 2010 Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk
;;
;; This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
;; (at your option) any later version.
;;
;; This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
;; but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
;; GNU General Public License for more details.
;;
;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
;; along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
;; Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111 USA
;;
(use-modules (ice-9 optargs))
(use-modules (geda object))
(use-modules (geda page))
(use-modules (geda attrib))
(use-modules (gschem window))
(use-modules (gschem selection))
(use-modules (srfi srfi-1))
;; Deselects everything on page
(define (deselect-all! page)
(for-each deselect-object! (page-contents page)))
;; Returns the values of all netname attributes of net
(define (netnames net)
(fold
;; If attrib is a netname= attribute, adds it to the front of lst
;; and returns lst. Otherwise, returns lst unmodified.
(lambda (attrib lst)
(let ((name-value (parse-attrib attrib)))
(if (and name-value (string=? netname (car name-value)))
(cons (cdr name-value) lst)
lst)))
'() ;; Initial value of lst
(object-attribs net) ;; Iterate over all attributes of net
))
;; Returns #f if net doesn't have a netname= attribute with value
;; equal to name.
(define (netname-match? net name)
(member name (netnames net)))
;; Selects net and all attached attributes.
(define (select-net-segment net)
(for-each select-object! (cons net (object-attribs net
;; Recursive function for finding netnames from directly-connected
;; net segments.
(define* (select-adjacent/netnames net #:optional (netname-lst '()))
(if (or (not (net? net)) (object-selected? net))
;; Either this object is not a net, or it's already selected
;; (i.e. we've already visited it). Eitherway, just return
;; the net names we've already found.
netname-lst
;; Otherwise, we need to:
(begin
;; 1. Select the segment ( attributes)
(select-net-segment net)
;; 2. Recurse to find any net names on directly-connected
;;net segments.
(fold select-adjacent/netnames
(append! (netnames net) netname-lst)
(object-connections net)
;; Recursive function for finding netnames from name-connected net
;; segments.
(define* (select-remote/netnames
name #:optional (netname-lst '()) (page (active-page)))
(fold
;; If obj is a net with a netname= attribute matching name,
;; recursively adds any related netnames to lst and returns lst.
;; Otherwise, returns lst unmodified.
(lambda (obj lst)
(if (and (net? obj)
(netname-match? obj name))
(select-adjacent/netnames obj lst)
lst))
netname-lst ;; Initial value of lst
(page-contents page) ;; Iterate over full page contents
))
Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 23:08:15 +, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Try again now.. it is possible that I didn't have the correct patches pushed at that point. I was just pushing something out just now for someone at Intel to test (looking at a driver bug), so we might have collided. BTW, it can often be useful to use a tag rather than a branch when you have a specific commit that you want someone to check out and test. Cheers, Peter :-) -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
