Re: gEDA-user: updating your OS, was: Re: Export gerber crash

2007-12-07 Thread Ian Chapman
Hi Peter and many thanks.  This partial upgrade stuff, not too sure but
I sent your e-mail, closed all windows and found the last widow telling
me to click okay to finish the download.  It took about 2.5 hours at
70kB/s and now I have a new PCB.  I will start a new thread from work as
I think I have found a bug with ElementArc.  So I am almost up to all
the other people.  Thanks again Ian.

 This is PCB, an interactive
printed circuit board editor
version 20070208

Compiled on Jul 20 2007 at 19:19:50



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Re: gEDA-user: updating your OS, was: Re: Export gerber crash

2007-12-07 Thread Peter Clifton

On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 22:28 -0500, Ian Chapman wrote:

> > After this, try the upgrade again.
> Oh no. support for gnome cups manager has ended.  I'll sort out the
> printer if necessary.  Other than that and a few not supported libs that
> I do not understand it seems to be okay.  Upgrades available but not all
> can be installed due to previous upgrade incomplete.  Can upgrades and
> figure it out after maybe a restart?

A "partial" upgrade can sometimes help here. These are used if some
conflicts must be broken before continuing.

I didn't notice gnome-cups-manager had gone... I just thought it had got
better. Turns out, the new functionality is in the package
"system-config-printer".

If you still have problems with the upgrade, try from a terminal:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
and
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

(If it complains of any conflicts, or tries to remove hundreds of
packages, post which here).

Hope the upgrade goes smoothly!

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Engineering Department,
University of Cambridge,
9, JJ Thomson Avenue,
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Re: gEDA-user: updating your OS, was: Re: Export gerber crash

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Chapman
On Fri, 2007-07-12 at 00:00 +, Peter Clifton wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 18:50 -0500, Ian Chapman wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> > System Administratiion updates manager (first install updates then
> > upgrad) New distribution 7.10 is available "UPGRADE BUTTON" click and
> > eventually ...
> > Failed to fetch
> > http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
> >  404 Not Found
> > Failed to fetch
> > http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
> >  404 Not Found
> > Failed to fetch
> > http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz
> > 404 Not Found
> > Failed to fetch
> > http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 
> > 404 Not Found
> > 
> > So I can not update to Gutsy.  Regards Ian.
> 
> It seems your /etc/apt/sources.list (or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/???) has
> some old sources in it.
> 
> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ doesn't exist any more, so upgrades from
> it wouldn't work in Feisty anyway. Its moved at least once before, sorry
> I didn't spot this in the last post -rather than noticing the typo!.
> 
> I have:
> 
> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list:
I have /etc/apt/sources.list.d << empty
> 
> ## Medibuntu - Ubuntu 7.10 "gutsy gibbon"
> ## Please report any bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/
> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
> #deb-src http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
> 
> I followed the steps at:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
I was trying to follow the steps at
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
but will try what you are suggesting
> 
> 
> What do you have from:
> grep medibuntu /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> If it lists medibuntu stuff, then remove / comment it:
> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> And remove / comment out "with the # character" those lines.
DONE
#deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
#deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free

> If not, you might find it under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
> grep medibuntu /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
 No such file or directory so okay there
> 
> If its medibuntu alone in a file under there, delete the whole file. If
> its in with other things, just remove / comment the medibuntu bits.
> 
> Then follow the instructions at the above website to get the gutsy
> repository:
I"ve figured it out, the following came from the above website.
> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O 
> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
> 
> And add the GPG key:
> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key 
> add - && sudo apt-get update
> 
The above two seem to work okay.
> 
> After this, try the upgrade again.
Oh no. support for gnome cups manager has ended.  I'll sort out the
printer if necessary.  Other than that and a few not supported libs that
I do not understand it seems to be okay.  Upgrades available but not all
can be installed due to previous upgrade incomplete.  Can upgrades and
figure it out after maybe a restart?

Send e-mail and reboot.  Many thanks Peter.
Joke, now try explaining bookmarks and tabbed browsing to my wife,
better not she is happy as she is.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 



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Re: gEDA-user: updating your OS, was: Re: Export gerber crash

2007-12-06 Thread Peter Clifton

On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 18:50 -0500, Ian Chapman wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>   System Administratiion updates manager (first install updates then
> upgrad) New distribution 7.10 is available "UPGRADE BUTTON" click and
> eventually ...
> Failed to fetch
> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 
> 404 Not Found
> Failed to fetch
> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
>  404 Not Found
> Failed to fetch
> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz
> 404 Not Found
> Failed to fetch
> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 404 
> Not Found
> 
> So I can not update to Gutsy.  Regards Ian.

It seems your /etc/apt/sources.list (or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/???) has
some old sources in it.

http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ doesn't exist any more, so upgrades from
it wouldn't work in Feisty anyway. Its moved at least once before, sorry
I didn't spot this in the last post -rather than noticing the typo!.

I have:

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list:

## Medibuntu - Ubuntu 7.10 "gutsy gibbon"
## Please report any bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
#deb-src http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free

I followed the steps at:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu


What do you have from:
grep medibuntu /etc/apt/sources.list

If it lists medibuntu stuff, then remove / comment it:
sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

And remove / comment out "with the # character" those lines.

If not, you might find it under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
grep medibuntu /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*

If its medibuntu alone in a file under there, delete the whole file. If
its in with other things, just remove / comment the medibuntu bits.

Then follow the instructions at the above website to get the gutsy
repository:
sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list

And add the GPG key:
wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add 
- && sudo apt-get update


After this, try the upgrade again.

Best wishes,

-- 
Peter Clifton

Electrical Engineering Division,
Engineering Department,
University of Cambridge,
9, JJ Thomson Avenue,
Cambridge
CB3 0FA

Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!)



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Re: gEDA-user: updating your OS, was: Re: Export gerber crash

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Chapman
Hi Peter,
System Administratiion updates manager (first install updates then
upgrad) New distribution 7.10 is available "UPGRADE BUTTON" click and
eventually ...
Failed to fetch
http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 
404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
 404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz
404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 404 
Not Found

So I can not update to Gutsy.  Regards Ian.






On Thu, 2007-06-12 at 14:28 +, Peter Clifton wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 21:28 -0500, Ian Chapman wrote:
> 
> > Hi Al, you are right.  I should update and it is easy in Ubuntu since
> > the update manager has a button Upgrade.  It would have been really
> > simple and fast only error 404 at nearly the end "failed to fetch
> > http://mdeibuntu-sos-sts.com/repo/dist/feisty/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gs 
> > same for binary, sources and non free source".  Feisty is the current 
> > distro and should I not be getting Gutsy the new distro?  The site seems to 
> > be up and alive, just needs a little tweak; I guess I should try again 
> > tomorrow.  Regards Ian.
> 
> That upgrade button just pulls in new security fixes etc.. unless you
> change the sources list as below.
> 
> The medibuntu ("medibuntu", not "mdeibuntu" as in that url you pasted)
> repository moves occasionally, presumably because it hosts libdvdcss
> stuff etc.. which administrators might get nervous of distributing from
> their site.
> 
> Perhaps you have a typo in your /etc/apt/sources.list or you just made a
> typo in the email.
> 
> > > First edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list to change to the new 
> > > version.
> > > 
> > > Then "apt-get update"
> > > 
> > > Then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
> > > 
> > > If you advance by one, it should go pretty smooth.  If you wait, 
> > > and are several behind, it is more likely that something will 
> > > require more attention.
> 
> Updating by one version is officially supported. Anything else is not.
> 
> There are some possible instructions here:
> 
> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
> 
> > > You should be doing "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" 
> > > regularly anyway to catch security fixes, even if you don't 
> > > change /etc/apt/sources.list.
> 
> You shouldn't really need to...
> 
> Ubuntu will have asked you at some point how often you want it to
> background check for updates / fixes, and whether to automatically apply
> them or not. If not, the preferences are in
> "System->Administration->Software sources (->Updates)"
> 
> I personally set to download every day, but like to confirm their
> installation, and know what has changed (in case something breaks).
> You'll see a little orange icon (with a star?) in the task-bar notifying
> you of updates.
> 



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Re: gEDA-user: updating your OS, was: Re: Export gerber crash

2007-12-06 Thread Peter Clifton

On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 21:28 -0500, Ian Chapman wrote:

> Hi Al, you are right.  I should update and it is easy in Ubuntu since
> the update manager has a button Upgrade.  It would have been really
> simple and fast only error 404 at nearly the end "failed to fetch
> http://mdeibuntu-sos-sts.com/repo/dist/feisty/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gs 
> same for binary, sources and non free source".  Feisty is the current distro 
> and should I not be getting Gutsy the new distro?  The site seems to be up 
> and alive, just needs a little tweak; I guess I should try again tomorrow.  
> Regards Ian.

That upgrade button just pulls in new security fixes etc.. unless you
change the sources list as below.

The medibuntu ("medibuntu", not "mdeibuntu" as in that url you pasted)
repository moves occasionally, presumably because it hosts libdvdcss
stuff etc.. which administrators might get nervous of distributing from
their site.

Perhaps you have a typo in your /etc/apt/sources.list or you just made a
typo in the email.

> > First edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list to change to the new 
> > version.
> > 
> > Then "apt-get update"
> > 
> > Then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
> > 
> > If you advance by one, it should go pretty smooth.  If you wait, 
> > and are several behind, it is more likely that something will 
> > require more attention.

Updating by one version is officially supported. Anything else is not.

There are some possible instructions here:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/

> > You should be doing "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" 
> > regularly anyway to catch security fixes, even if you don't 
> > change /etc/apt/sources.list.

You shouldn't really need to...

Ubuntu will have asked you at some point how often you want it to
background check for updates / fixes, and whether to automatically apply
them or not. If not, the preferences are in
"System->Administration->Software sources (->Updates)"

I personally set to download every day, but like to confirm their
installation, and know what has changed (in case something breaks).
You'll see a little orange icon (with a star?) in the task-bar notifying
you of updates.

-- 
Peter Clifton

Electrical Engineering Division,
Engineering Department,
University of Cambridge,
9, JJ Thomson Avenue,
Cambridge
CB3 0FA

Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!)



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Re: gEDA-user: updating your OS, was: Re: Export gerber crash

2007-12-05 Thread Ian Chapman
On Wed, 2007-21-11 at 13:11 -0500, al davis wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 November 2007, Ian Chapman wrote:
> >I am using Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn which is my first
> > serious effort into Linux.  This release is only a few months
> > old.  I guess that there is not too much change between Gutsy
> > and Feisty?
> >
> > I like its stability and speed after XP but I am not
> > expert at understanding what all the helpers are talking
> > about.  The .deb files I have installed to get the Firefox 64
> > plugins working not too difficult. Printers are total
> > gibberish to me cups, foomatic and gutenprint and I
> > eventually found where it put the driver.  Now Open office
> > word prints and that's all that can print.
> >
> > I would be really pleased to try your .deb file.  I
> > think that would be simpler than updating Ubuntu and being
> > frustrated by plugins and print drivers again.
> 
> On Debian (and I assume Ubuntu also) you can update without 
> reinstalling ...
Hi Al, you are right.  I should update and it is easy in Ubuntu since
the update manager has a button Upgrade.  It would have been really
simple and fast only error 404 at nearly the end "failed to fetch
http://mdeibuntu-sos-sts.com/repo/dist/feisty/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gs 
same for binary, sources and non free source".  Feisty is the current distro 
and should I not be getting Gutsy the new distro?  The site seems to be up and 
alive, just needs a little tweak; I guess I should try again tomorrow.  Regards 
Ian.
> 
> First edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list to change to the new 
> version.
> 
> Then "apt-get update"
> 
> Then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
> 
> If you advance by one, it should go pretty smooth.  If you wait, 
> and are several behind, it is more likely that something will 
> require more attention.
> 
> You should be doing "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" 
> regularly anyway to catch security fixes, even if you don't 
> change /etc/apt/sources.list.
> 
> It is so easy to keep up to date that it doesn't make sense to 
> keep using the old one.
> 
> I can understand the fear ...  This easy update is not so easy 
> with older systems, and even with some new ones.
> 
> 
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