Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
On Thursday 19 March 2009, Stuart Brorson wrote: I am unhappy to announce that the gEDA Project's application to the Google Summer of Code was turned down this year. Gnucap will be participating as part of the GNU project. GNU participates as an umbrella organization, and also has several projects that were in SoC on their own. Some of those were turned down, which really means they are absorbed under the umbrella. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:51:27 -0500, John Griessen wrote: Google interest could be movie related...but as is, BRLCAD looks verrry eighties Ack. I looked into brlcad, and found it next to unusable when compared with a modern 3D CAD application. Although I strongly prefer FOSS, I bit the bullet and went for a commercial solution. The project certainly made it into GSoC along with blender, because it promises to produce elements of a virtual reality. By the way, when are the results of the 2008 projects expected to hit main stream testing? The autorouter looked quite promising. What about the project manager? ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 15:25 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: By the way, when are the results of the 2008 projects expected to hit main stream testing? The autorouter looked quite promising. What about the project manager? Hello, I was going to ask the same yesterday... Did some searching about the 2008 projects yesterday, found not much. Of course one of the problems of summer of code is that people may work for a few weeks on a project, and then the project dies. (I know this from university projects, i.e. related to the fine programming language Oberon...) I hope the topological autorouter is still alive? Best regards Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Stefan Salewski wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 15:25 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: By the way, when are the results of the 2008 projects expected to hit main stream testing? The autorouter looked quite promising. What about the project manager? I hope the topological autorouter is still alive? I've been pretty slack, and have not had much time to put into it, but I'm not going to stop working on it (please keep hassling me for progress!). In the last few months I made the switch to GNU GTS, and completed most of the code which will handle SMT constraints and so on. I want to add code to handle a few peculiar cases in a more general way (e.g., square pins inside pads with a collinear edge). There is a small bug in GTS which needs a fix for my code to compile. I sent a patch off to the maintainer over a month ago, but haven't heard anything back yet, so I'm not sure about what to do next there. I am really surprised that projects such as BZFlag were accepted to the GSoC and gEDA was not. -Anthony ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 05:16 +1300, Anthony Blake wrote: but I'm not going to stop working on it (please keep hassling me for progress!). I am glad to hear this. I guess your router is really complicated stuff, so it will be difficult for others to continue your project. Best wishes Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
I've been pretty slack, and have not had much time to put into it, but I'm not going to stop working on it (please keep hassling me for progress!). Yes yes yes! I was at a meeting last night and showed several people your screenshots. One person said that they would switch from Eagle-- and learn everything all over again --if there was a better autorouter like this. So, *please* keep up the good work! -Windell ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Anthony Blake wrote: I've been pretty slack, and have not had much time to put into it, but I'm not going to stop working on it (please keep hassling me for progress!). Hassle hassle. I want it! It looks fabulous to use! In the last few months I made the switch to GNU GTS, and completed most of the code which will handle SMT constraints and so on. I want to add code to handle a few peculiar cases in a more general way (e.g., square pins inside pads with a collinear edge). There is a small bug in GTS which needs a fix for my code to compile. I sent a patch off to the maintainer over a month ago, but haven't heard anything back yet, so I'm not sure about what to do next there. Just tell me how to patch it and I'll test, then ask him to commit your patch also. John Griessen -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Anthony Blake wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 15:25 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: By the way, when are the results of the 2008 projects expected to hit main stream testing? The autorouter looked quite promising. What about the project manager? I hope the topological autorouter is still alive? I've been pretty slack, and have not had much time to put into it, but I'm not going to stop working on it (please keep hassling me for progress!). Any chance of committing what you have? If nothing else it ups the bus number, but maybe it will help generate some more excitement about it. In the last few months I made the switch to GNU GTS, and completed most of the code which will handle SMT constraints and so on. I want to add code to handle a few peculiar cases in a more general way (e.g., square pins inside pads with a collinear edge). There is a small bug in GTS which needs a fix for my code to compile. I sent a patch off to the maintainer over a month ago, but haven't heard anything back yet, so I'm not sure about what to do next there. I sent the GTS maintainer an email at least that long ago too with a few minor patches and promised some more if I knew the project was still alive. I also heard nothing back. I wonder if the maintainer could be persuaded to try recruiting some extra developers. Stefan did that with gerbv and Julian really stepped up to the plate with it. -Dan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Hello -- I am unhappy to announce that the gEDA Project's application to the Google Summer of Code was turned down this year. This year, Google says that they are accepting fewer mentoring orgs so that they may concentrate on inceasing the number of students staffing those projects which they accept. They also say that they removed some past participants in favor of bringing in new groups. Apparently, we got caught up in that reshuffling. You can read more about it here: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/03/our-fifth-google-summer-of-code-meet.html Despite this setback, I want to thank everybody who helped out with the preparations for this year's GSoC. If you're a student who wants to work on gEDA, don't hesitate! Go ahead and jump in! You don't need Google behind you to work on this project. Also, assuming there is interest in the gEDA developer community, we will go ahead and try to get into GSoC next year. Cheers, Stuart ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Stuart Brorson wrote: Hello -- I am unhappy to announce that the gEDA Project's application to the Google Summer of Code was turned down this year. This year, Google says that they are accepting fewer mentoring orgs so that they may concentrate on inceasing the number of students staffing those projects which they accept. Hmmm the top of the new list, the ones new to GSOC, include many web, media, communication developments -- kinda like Google... I guess Google feels less techie electronics is OK in a recession... and probably for any time they care about, being a software oriented company using only very generic hardware, or large well financed arrays of any hardware that is custom for their apps. but they miss that gEDA tools have a creativity amplifying effect on into the next boom indefinitely. John Griessen -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
On Thursday 19 March 2009, Stuart Brorson wrote: I am unhappy to announce that the gEDA Project's application to the Google Summer of Code was turned down this year. Perhaps we can take this setback to leverage something positive. If some other org, or a group of orgs, can make a contribution, we can run our own. Any takers? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Hi all, On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 12:39 -0400, al davis wrote: On Thursday 19 March 2009, Stuart Brorson wrote: I am unhappy to announce that the gEDA Project's application to the Google Summer of Code was turned down this year. Perhaps we can take this setback to leverage something positive. If some other org, or a group of orgs, can make a contribution, we can run our own. Any takers? Maybe we can have some bi-weekly code sprints during this summer just to fool ourselves with the feeling of a gEDA Summer of Code. Invite some students by posting to some relevant newsgroups. It will basically feel the same :) devious mode Maybe we can even hi-jack the gSoC abbreviation :) /devious mode Kind regards and keep the faith, on day this google depression will be over :) Bert Timmerman. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
John Griessen wrote: Hmmm the top of the new list, the ones new to GSOC, include many web, media, communication developments -- kinda like Google... Here's one they funded again since last year: Enlightenment Project advanced libraries and tools to support applications, such as Imlib, Imlib2, and FnLib, . . . . .offer such functionality as an X11 canvas library (Evas), X11 abstraction layer (Ecore), and an canvas based interface layout library (Edje) that allows separation of interface and application logic (thus making every application that uses it skinable). These libraries are extremely fast and lightweight. So much so they have been adopted by many other organizations. Maybe enlightenment libraries could help our tools? I know, we have plenty of investment in GTK, but the part about separation of interface and application logic sounds just like our design philosophy... John Griessen -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Notice that BRL CAD did make the cut. Why solid modeling but not EDA? On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 11:41 -0500, John Griessen wrote: Stuart Brorson wrote: Hello -- I am unhappy to announce that the gEDA Project's application to the Google Summer of Code was turned down this year. This year, Google says that they are accepting fewer mentoring orgs so that they may concentrate on inceasing the number of students staffing those projects which they accept. Hmmm the top of the new list, the ones new to GSOC, include many web, media, communication developments -- kinda like Google... I guess Google feels less techie electronics is OK in a recession... and probably for any time they care about, being a software oriented company using only very generic hardware, or large well financed arrays of any hardware that is custom for their apps. but they miss that gEDA tools have a creativity amplifying effect on into the next boom indefinitely. John Griessen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Notice that BRL CAD did make the cut. Why solid modeling but not EDA? solid modelling is used for movies? Who knows? They did say they were going to make room for new projects, maybe there's a bit of randomness in the choices. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
DJ Delorie wrote: Notice that BRL CAD did make the cut. Why solid modeling but not EDA? solid modelling is used for movies? BRL comes from Ballistics Research Labs. I saw a thick aluminum plate that was a target of one of their shots once. Very exploded/cratered/meteor looking. Google interest could be movie related...but as is, BRLCAD looks verrry eighties :-) John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
Blender is on the list too. I use it and like it, but its already go so many functions I have not touched yet and have no idea what features they might want from a student. I was also going to apply for RTEMS too but I guess google didn't pick any hardware related projects this year. --- On Thu, 3/19/09, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: From: John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009 To: gEDA user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 7:51 PM DJ Delorie wrote: Notice that BRL CAD did make the cut. Why solid modeling but not EDA? solid modelling is used for movies? BRL comes from Ballistics Research Labs. I saw a thick aluminum plate that was a target of one of their shots once. Very exploded/cratered/meteor looking. Google interest could be movie related...but as is, BRLCAD looks verrry eighties :-) John ___ geda-user mailing list [1]geda-u...@moria.seul.org [2]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=geda-u...@moria.seul.org 2. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Bad news about gEDA's participation in GSoC 2009
I feel sorry for gEDA. As a graduate student majoring Micro Electronics, I know the value and contribution of gEDA bringing to the EDA and Open-source community. I learned a lot these days as I was going to apply for gEDA' GSoC this year. I really appreciated the help and advice that guys including the potential mentor in gEDA give to me. It is the GSoC that bring me to gEDA. However, I'll keep paying attention to gEDA as a learner and a helper someday. -- Best Regards, Sha Liu ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
